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President99:Secession is a crime? So when Britain that made us 'Nigerians' allowed Scotland the right to secede via referendum, that was a crime? The very people that created Nigeria are allowing secession, you that they created is the one who knows that secession is a crime? I laugh in Igbo |
I can see Palm Trees in the background. Do Palm tree's grow in the arid North? |
President99:But it will be your precious 'one Nigeria' that will do the "wasting" in both cases, right? Nigerians are the only people I know who kill each other in the millions to prove their love for each other. |
Everfrank:Yorubas are not serious. I will only take them serious about 'one Nigeria' when they start moving back home from America, Britain, Europe etc................. |
Various Nigerian leaders have made statements that show that Nigerian unity is not worth the paper it is printed on. Awolowo, 1947 Nigeria is not a nation. It is a mere geographical expression Tafawa Balewa, 1953 Since the amalgamation of the southern and northern provinces in 1914, Nigeria has existed as one country only on paper. It is still far from being united. The country is inhabited by peoples and tribes who speak different languages; who have different religions; different customs and traditions; and entirely different historical backgrounds, and their way of life, and who have also gained different stages of development. We do not want our southern neighbours to interfere in our development. But I should like to make it clear to you that if the British quitted Nigeria now at this stage the Northern people would continue their interrupted conquest to the sea Ojukwu as Military Governor of the Eastern Region, 14th March 1967 NIGERIA IS INDEED IN DANGER OF DISINTEGRATION. THIS DANGER IS VERY REAL AND CAN ONLY BE REMOVED IF WE CAN RESTORE IN THE COUNTRY THE VITAL ELEMENTS OF GOOD FAITH AND CONFIDENCE - THE TWO SHATTERED ESSENTIALS OF MUTUAL CO-OPERATION AND TRUST. WE SHALL DO THIS ONLY IF WE, THE MILITARY LEADERS NOW SADDLED WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR RUNNING THIS COUNTRY, CAN APPROACH OUR TASK AND FACE OUR PROBLEMS, WITH A SENSE OF REALISM, OBJECTIVITY, AND A SPIRIT FREED FROM PAST PREJUDICES AND SECTIONAL AMBITION Sir Ahmadu Bello, 12th October 1960 The new nation called Nigeria should be an estate of our great grandfather Othman Dan Fodio. We must ruthlessly prevent a change of power. We must use the minorities in the north as willing tools and the south as conquered territory and never allow them to rule over us and never allow them to have control over their future Yakubu Gowon, Head of state, 1966 There is no basis for Nigerian unity Ojukwu, 2002 Many people believe that Nigeria became a nation on October 1st 1960. Actually, that is the date Nigeria started it's journey to nationhood and nationhood has eluded us to this day |
iamsparrow:True, both of them were not the best option, not even amongst those who ran.However, since it was only GEJ and Buhari that had any realistic chance of winning, a choice had to be made between the best of the two. That was GEJ, Nigerians still have another 3 torturous years to find this out for themselves. |
tsdarkside:It seems you don't know that "Nigeria" is just a Business venture the Royal Niger company, the British and Lord Lugard all jointly setup in West Africa? None of us are even shareholders. |
modath:Why would the Ijaws want to represent Nigeria in any sports? Would Ijaws want to be part of Nigeria if they had a choice? That's the question you need to ask. Personally, I think that Ijaws as a people and a nation would have been a much richer nation if Lord Lugard had not made them part of Nigeria. Ijaws don't really need Nigeria for anything, if anything, it is Nigeria that needs them. |
The Fulani marauders are armed with AK 47's. The Villagers they are attacking are armed with Dane Guns at best. So how can people then defend themselves? Unless the Villagers are armed on the level of the Fulanis, not much can be done. It's one of the joys of 'one Nigeria'. |
Nigerian Declaration of Independence? No such document exists because the various ethnic nationalities never formally came together to declare their allegiance to a Nigerian Nation. |
South-South? Where is North-North? |
Volksfuhrer:Ojukwu did not lose the war because of any of the reasons you mentioned. Ojukwu lost because of British involvement in the war. It was British Warships that blockaded Biafra and stopped At Ojukwu from exporting Oil and importing adequate armaments. Where it not for this, Ojukwu would have won hands down |
If his victory was a landmark achievement, you would have seen Igbos from far and beyond rejoicing and celebrating him and his victory. Most of the people celebrating Uwajumogu's victory aren't even Igbos. That says a lot................ |
I'm not a big GEJ fan, But I have to give him his props. GEJ and Kenneth Kaunda are the only two incumbent African heads of states seeking re-election who lost elections in Africa and voluntarily handed over. I have no doubt in my mind that Buhari cannot do the same if it were him. Another props I give GEJ is that he left Nigeria in a better shape than it is currently in. No matter how bad people say the administration of GEJ was, how corrupt it was and how inept it was, things are much worse now for the common man. The Insecurity is much higher with herdsmen attacks, Niger Delta militancy and even Boko Haram. The economy has shrunk, inflation is on the rise, the Naira has weakened and the general populace is suffering more. |
sCun:It is the only option. You know why? It is either sovereignty or slavery, the two deadly words that start with 's'. Nigerians are different people with different ways of seeing things. Depending on ethnicity, culture, value system, orientation, education and will power, we are very different. What I can tell you is that most of the ethic groups that fall within the SS/SE do not joke with their rights and sovereignty. This is the reason why most of the ethnic nationalities that fall within that Geo-political zones have at one time or the tajen up arms against the Nigerian Government from 1966 till date. It is most disturbing that an armed force in a country will open fire on the very people they are paid to protect. Mind you, it is a general rule that armed forces should never open fire on anyone in peace times or 'non war situations' unless they were fired on first or there was a clear and present danger of harm. If we all keep quiet and accept the excesses of the armed forces then there is no hope for anyone. This is were Obiano failed in his leadership of Anambra. He should have insisted on a report from the armed forces as to why protesters were killed. Blocking the road, burning a mosque, and burning Dangote trucks is not enough reason to kill people. Those things can be replaced, human life can't be replaced. Obiano failed woefully in this regard. I think that when He seeks re-election, his rivals will remind Ndi-Anambra how Obiano looked the other way as his people were being killed, yet, a Yoruba Governor like Fayose condemned the security forces for killing unarmed IPOB protesters. Evil men prevail when good men do nothing |
sCun:No, it is not madness to exercise your constitutionally guaranteed right to freedom expression and movement via protest. The madness lies with security agencies who who kill people for exercising that right. But the biggest madness lies with people like Obiano who condone the madness of security operatives and the desecration of the constitution The people will not accept this madness and they will not be intimidated into giving up their rights just because the Nigerian Army are murderers. |
sCun:Oh yeah, I forgot that it is the job of the Nigerian Army to shoot unarmed people! Willie Obiano could not speak out and chastise the Nigerian Army for commiting murder in his own state? What is wrong with Nigerians? Are they this dumb? How can a paid uniformed military personel be shooting people and a Governor does nothing but release press statement while others condone it? Too bad |
Hard working Governor of Anambra who did nothing when the Nigerian Army was shooting unarmed IPOB on the same road he is now cleaning |
The guy hasn't travelled with that passport yet, that's why he is still cherishing it like that. When they embarrass him at one or two ports of entry he will quickly throw the passport away |
Victorvexz:The only funny part is that it is you and the likes of you that will later come fight to do 'one Nigeria' with the same Igbos............. |
abduljabbar4:It's with Lord Lugard |
abduljabbar4:So you don't know that a referendum was conducted in Nigeria in the 50's to let the current Adamawa state/area become part of the North? The only hallucination here is the one where Lord Lugard came to tell you that you are a 'Nigerian' |
If it were Northerners that had the Oil, I'm quite sure that they would have insisted on 'true federalism' where they control 100% of their resources preparatory to seceding. The only reason they would have changed their minds about outright secession is for lack of seaport. I think that if the Northerners had Oil and seaport, long time ago they would have seceded. Does anyone believe that the North loves the Igbo and Yoruba man enough to let them partake of the Norths Oil wealth? I laugh in Igbo Another scenario is that if it had been the North who had the Oil, they and Yorubas would have seceded. The North provides the Oil, Yorubas provide the seaport via Lagos to export it. One thing is certain, if the North had the Oil, there would be no Nigeria today. |
She should be around 65 or more now, I remember reading about her 60th birthday on Ovation some years ago. She looks very good for a woman in her 60's. |
I'm surprised that nobody has blamed IPOB for this? |
mekaboy:Mainly because it is Igbos and Yorubas who are by far the largest users of online social media. Yorubas and Igbos don't actually like each other. Both groups have a lot of bad history. They tolerate themselves in the name of 'one Nigeria' but loathe one another. Online social media has provided the platform of expression that did not used to be there. Have you ever seen Igbos and Yorubas ever voluntrarlily unite to do anything together? It has never happened. Had Northerners had a large online presence in the politics section like Yorubas, what you see now happening now with Igbos and Yorubas would have been child's play cause we Igbos actually hate their guts more Yorubas, and they know it. |
Well she lived and died a happy old woman and that's what matters. I'm actually hoping that Bianca will run as Governor of Enugu under APGA in 2019. I don't see anyone beating her. |
Switzerland is just roughly as big as Abia and Enugu States combined but has a GDP of $650 Billion As Big as Nigeria is, it has a GDP of just $500 Billion. Switzerland is far richer and more productive than Nigeria even though Switzerland has just a population of 8 million people. The lesson here is that nobody cares about your landmass and population, it is all about what you have to offer. |
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