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VoodooDoll: Which is the annoying thing...

If GEj was simply benign and left things as he saw it, we can say "no better no worse"

But the clueless clown is making things very much worse in a period of immense opportunities for Africa !

Believe me, you are more correct than you think given what I see on the ground through my travels within Africa. GEJ is simply a very crude leader promoted far above his station. He is the sort no longer entertained by serious African Nations.

He is not even averagely effective and we see the fallout of this with how retrogressive and archaic practices, dismissed in seconds if Mr.President so desires, continue to typify how we do things.

Observers with the requisite clarity of thought to see what matter will note that GEJ's flagrant inactions, unnatural and unbelievably illogical as they may seem, are very much a deliberate effort to abet a patronage system benefiting a small minority while Nigeria at large remains underdeveloped. Tragic.

skyfall: The data above confirms what honest people have been saying consistently. Jonathan is a failure and only ethnic bigots and political jobbers think otherwise.

What makes it worse is that men/women of ideas and innovative thinkers will host a totally dismissive attitude towards the GEJ government because they see how, undoubtedly, it is one not seeking solutions and even makes a vengeful show of rejecting them. What is tragic and most condemnable about the GEJ government is that it operate like a looting gang not at all interested in the many innovative and solution-driven recommendations it has received from various sources to include numerous committees it has set up and funded expensively. For me, that is singularly the most damning indictment of how GEJ is a failure.

It is one thing to receive brilliant recommendations and everyone can see you fail trying to implement them.

It is another thing entirely for citizens to see the GEJ government receive such recommendations, capable of drastically transforming how Nigeria does thing for the better, only for them to see those urgent directives shoved into the paper shredder with disdain. To unemotional and balanced folks, such antics are the actions of those who are a big part of the problem and can only maintain our woes or worsen them.

VoodooDoll: Bump

Explicit proof of the failings of GEJ is not what folks want to discuss because it is too much for many here to digest. If it concerned the paranoia-led drivel of how "Yarobus" and "abokis" are plotting for GEJ to fail then your thread will already be on page ten.

GEJ is a monumental failure as far as the major headaches of Nigeria are concerned. Our major problems remain the same under him or worse as your submission generally supports.

Gamji007: On the contrary, if GEJ had shown a little competence and commitment towards the masses, less people will have the gots to challenge him. His unpopularity crosses from the elite to the masses, and that is pure evidence of failure.

100% correct and I wonder if some Nigerians ever take examples of events beyond their border before they come here talking in manners that show Nigeria raises aberrant and deluded adults. Where, in the entire world, are performing leaders despised by the most fearless, most outspoken, most respected and most upright men and women in society? Good leaders naturally get the willing support and backing of those kind of people !!! Conversely, those are the sort to speak boldy against you if you do not lead well !!!

Whether GEJ fans want to admit it or not, it speaks volumes that GEJ cannot get the support of the likes of Soyinka, Balarabe Musa, Femi Falana et al who cannot be bought and have demonstrated that they mean well for Nigeria in critical times when the mercenaries and sycophants GEJ surround himself with today all hid away. What positive things have Anenih, Tukur et al ever being a part of?

Obiagelli: I guess anenih is part of the new generation, do you think about your comments before posting them

You took the words out of my mouth !!! Bamanga Tukur, the geriatric who cannot even use certain PDP premises because he cannot climb stairs, is certainly "new generation".

To be honest, the chap you quoted personifies 100% clannish and bigoted support. The sort that not only blinds one to the wrongs of a "brother" but actually leads to inane defence of him such as claiming rancid sh1t, offensive to everyone's nostril, smells like the latest Calvin Klein aftershave.

amAZEing: 89 Likes

A 1,000.00 likes !!! Pukkah wittily identifies what is obvious. I.e a project united in cynicism and opportunism, now propped up only by jaded geriatrics, ethnic jingost and sabre rattlers plus "chop and clean mouth" mercenaries.

GEJ has no choice but to seek the assistance of these charlatans since the enduringly principled Nigerians money cannot buy have rejected and will continue to soundly reject him. How, for example, can GEJ ever get the support of Wole Soyinka, Femi Falana, Donald Duke, Pat Utomi, Okey Ndibe, Balarabe Musa, Col-Umar et al unless he does the right things by Nigerians? It is instructive that the biggest indicator GEJ's 2015 ambition is doomed is the fact GEJ Mr.Preisdent would find it hard to get even a single well-respected Nigerian to willingly support him.

If GEJ has demonstrated that he means well for Nigerians then others who have also proven this to all Nigerians, perhaps the hard and sacrificial way, will naturally be behind him. This is something no balanced adult can deny. Conversely, what does it make GEJ when it is only crooks and undesirable elements who queue behind him as Pukkah reveals?

automaticcarzz: Jonathan, it's high time you probed Obasanjo, Anehni, and a lot of others. Regardless of your arm twisting, you are going in 2015. You were not prepared for this job. You are cursed!

This is 100% the truth for unemotional folks. Tragic how everything Mr.President does today is, first and foremost, tainted with political opportunism. In a nation of politically sophisticated people it would be impossible for citizens not to come to the very obvious conclusions. I.e GEJ cannot help but mess up because he is a highly mediocre mind placed damagingly above his station same as a carpenter, if he does not have the moral decency to reject it, will virtually kill everything and everyone if appointed to be a neurological surgeon.

A thread that, even if started for mischief-making, should be dominated with educational facts and logical reasoning has been totally taken over by sentimental chest-thumping, empty braggadocio and ethnocentric hogwash.

Truly sad because this may have been a chance for facts to come through and reveal to uninformed folks how grossly misinformed and/or ignorant they really are.

I still don't understand how Nairaland has become, like Nigeria, a place where the brightest and most productively intelligent minds are driven underground only for it to be the most ignorant, most scantily educated and most deluded to be the loudest voices disturbing the peace with their poor education/knowledge, ugly ethnocentric views and highly prejudiced mindset. Another potentially good thread ruined by the putrid nature of Nairaland and nairalanders.

Obiagelli: These people's paranoia and panicking is becoming obvious, shout out to gbawe who saw this coming a year ago

This is why these supporters of GEJ, immature kids in reality, stalk me with their empty insults and vitriol. There is virtually not a single thing we are seeing now that I have not boldly predicted before to the consternation of these sentimental children who have a severe and laughable disconnection with morality and uprightness.

Being that way means they are likely to embrace the shallow approach of insulting others vacuously, while continuing to back GEJ blindly, rather than ever acknowledge what the man does wrong that even a 5 year old, if ethical and fair-minded, can predict will draw negative repercussion in future. It is not Rocket Science. Merely that some people are too sentimental, too clannish and too bigoted to see it.

Pataki: These asinine beings already know all will not go well with their PDP presidential primaries.

I dey laff oh.....

Indeed. How can things go well when GEJ, by his own divisive and treacherous antics, has alienated the support base that would have come in useful at times like this? This is why opportunistic and myopic politicians do not last. In seeking to profit today at all cost, they myopically burn bridged they may need later. Now, as Pukkah eloquently revealed above, all GEJ has in his corner are expired mercenaries, political jobbers, ethnic jingoists and "chop-clean-mouth" AGIPs ("any government in power" ). We will certainly enjoy the show. Truckload of pop corn already on order for me

The undemocratic rant of sheer desperation. The terror facing team GEJ, borne of the knowledge their man can never win the PDP Primaries legitimately, is behind this feeble garbage that will be soundly rejected by others who are completely secure in the knowledge they have the number to defeat GEJ easily in a transparent and fair test of popularity.

It is only naive supporters of Mr President who illogically shout that the PDP is a "national Party", who will be shocked to note this is not so with how the North will prove their numerical strength and clout within the Party. GEJ has lost and alienated virtually all the influential Northern 'moderates' who used powerful office to even things in his favour in the past. He paid them back with ingratitude and treachery. Now his only allies are all mercenaries, ethnic jingoists and AGIPs - not folks ideologically supportive of his ambition.

It will soon be crystal clear that the PDP is indeed a Northern Party as many intelligent analysts have always postulated. Political affiliates of GEJ, like Anenih, already know this. Hence their desperate effort to seek every method under the Sun to bypass Primaries that will reveal how highly unpopular GEJ is amongst his PDP compatriots.

Sorry "Mr.Fix-it" that you will not be allowed , regardless of your desperation, to change the rules in the middle of the game. It will definitely be fun to watch the PDP drama as it unfolds from now henceforth.

It is all over. No return to free loot for Oni. Pele.

kingoflag: Look at another imbe.cile just thinking cus he can now walk upright he can talk to humans in any manner he feels like....

I have never benefited from Nigeria's Oil. I do not depend on it, nor do/has any member of my immediate family. So, unless youre trying to tell me that somehow, the Oyel from the Niger-Delta is responsible for my development from birth, kindergarten all the way through College and my Adult years..... and if youre telling me that you Oyel is the reason why I can sleep well at night without fear of armed robbers breaking into my home, constant electricity, Cops seeking bribes from me or an overall good standard of living (the type of which you couldnt see even in your dreams) I'll advice you to shut the fxuck up and go back to swimming in the polluted creeks from which you obviously crawled out of, you mo.ron.

The whole braggadocio of some in the ND over "their" oil "feeding Nigeria" is borne of sheer ignorance and intellectual laziness. Ondo Oil and gas contributes 12% to the total output of Nigeria.

http://www.ondostatemoi.gov.ng/node/70

Mineral Resources
Oil and Gas, Ondo State produces 12% of Nigeria's total output. Other mineral resources found in the state are: Quart Sand, Clay, Granite, Limestone, Talc, Kaolin, Coal, Columbite, Rock, Tin, River, Mineral deposits, Bitumen which is the second largest in the world, Ocean fronts and the longest Coastline in Nigeria.

I assume it is common knowledge, for the well-informed anyway, that Lagos is moving closer to joining the ranks of oil producing States.

http://www.punchng.com/news/lagos-oilfield-to-start-production-in-2014/

Lagos oilfield to start production in 2014

JANUARY 2, 2013 BY STANLEY OPARA

By 2014, oil is expected to be produced for the first time offshore Lagos State from the Aje gas and condensate field, which lies in Oil Mining Lease 113 in the Benin Basin, about 43 kilometres offshore Lagos.

The field is currently in the development planning stage, with first production expected in 2014, according to the United States Energy Information Administration’s website.

Aje field is expected to reach a plateau production of between 50,000 to 80,000 barrels of oil equivalent a day. The water depth in the region is 3,000 feet.

Key shareholders in the field include Yinka Folawiyo Petroleum and Chevron.

Finally, no less than Akpabio has admitted that Lagos will be the richest oil producing state if oil dichotomy is abolished. I don't think any of us need to be Einstein to understand that dichotomy will no longer be an Issue if there is no federal Government to direct accrual to the centre since extant Nigerian law that force such will become redundant.

I think many Nigerians really need to educate themselves because the pervasive ignorance displayed here daily is troubling. The mere fact some are still ignorantly going on about oil with more Nigerian States (like Enugu and Anambra) revealing significant deposits continuously is even indicative of how some are highly misguided thinking they will be on top, and others will "suffer", when their appalling lack of knowledge only signifies that they may be in for the shock of their lives if their continuous and highly ignorant noise of separation is honoured.

In my opinion it is an organised, united, productive,tolerant and politically sophisticated populace that is key above all else for me as per the notion of former Nigerian regions thriving as stand-alone new nations. Viewed from this perspective, it is obvious the SW will be fine even as I would not be presumptuous enough to insouciantly and arrogantly state who will "suffer" if Nigeria separate. I leave that to the introspection of ignorant braggarts.

http://tribune.com.ng/news2013/index.php/en/news/item/3449-if-oil-dichotomy-is-abolished-lagos-will-become-richest-oil-producing-state-in-nigeria-akpabio

If oil dichotomy is abolished, Lagos will become richest oil-producing state in Nigeria - Akpabio

I know Nigerians. If the totality of dichotomy is removed, Lagos will produce the highest quantity of oil; yes, because, Bonga oil field is located within the Lagos area, it is a deep sea oil, it produced 800,000 barrels of oil a day. If the issue of dichotomy is removed today and they say there is no longer dichotomy, the state that might be the highest oil producing state in Nigeria today is Lagos.

osaiworld: ERROOORRRRRRRR, we are talking of smartness not being cunning.

Indeed.

They will soon, in their uncouth glory, start insulting this man without even minimally trying to understand why someone who passionately campaigned for GEJ is now against him. This is what some of us have argued consistently. GEJ himself has squandered the considerable goodwill he enjoyed in the past.

lawbabs: This is interesting and your facts are really true. I am aware of them but he is still not as brilliant and smart as Fashola in my opinion.

You actually agree with him that Mimiko is "smart"?

Elmos: I don't like his way of administration, I left his party, but as a smartest governor politically, he takes the lead, his name is ABDULRAHAMAN MIMIKO of State of Ondo. When he first presented himself for office back in the days, he was told that they needed a responsible man, that is a married man, and then he was not married, the discussion was on a Monday, and on Wednesday, he was at the meeting again with his wedding certificate, smartness number 1. Segun Adegoke was nominated to be the Governorship candidate of AD in Ondo state in 1999, but being an Ondo Man like Adegoke, he knows once Adegoke becomes a Governor he will never be again, courtesy of Senatorial rotation, he pitched ADEGOKE and Against the party leadership while he was sponsoring ADEFARATI (He sold his father's house in Yaba in Ondo town) became the most powerful cabinet member of ADEFARATI government.Smartness number 2. He was known and Address as Rahman Mimiko, but knows that Ondo will never vote for a Muslim as their Governor he changed faith and remove Rahaman and replaced it with Olusegun. Smartness number 3. He played TINUMBU and OBASANJO, and got the support of both enemies and much more.

With all due respect, this is why I said earlier that many Nigerians would not be the best judge of what smartness is. We will input dishonesty, deception, corner cutting, cheating to get our ways and even fraud as qualities we erroneously think equates "smartness" because of how our society has shaped us aberrantly.

How is the part in bold above smartness? It is obvious that, condemnably, Mimiko either (1) married hastily within two days for the sake of politics and not primarily for love or (2) he cynically engaged in 'arrangee' marriage or (3) he forged or bought a marriage certificate to achieve a political agenda. Guy, how is any of that smartness? If anything you have helped us make sense of why Mimiko behaved as unprincipled and as crudely as he did recently.

ilugunboy: Most of them have absolutely nothing or no reason whatsoever to use the bridge

...its all about negatively painting the govt laudable achievements even when there is no obvious reason to do such..

Correct .... and that makes this forum tediously repetitive and imbecilic when it should be an arena of ideas. In 2011, members of Nigeriavillagesquare.com, a Nigerian blog site like Nairaland, were busy interviewing Buhari, Ribadu , Momodu et al while this place was bogged down in pettiness.

Some of us would certainly wish this forum develop optimally as an arena of ideas but this will not happen till there is a consistent and united effort to shut down ethnic bigots, nuisance posters and worthless spammers who never have anything positive to contribute to discussions.

ba7man: Tribal bias?? You have no knowledge of Nigeria's Political Landscape. When Obasanjo was in power, his greatest critics were Yorubas....His own people. When Turai refused to hand over to GEJ, Yourubas were part of those that fought on his behalf. We fight, we protest whenever we are slighted and don't utter that backward statement "Our son's in Power". Who cares if he's our son?? If he messes up, kick him out. Spoken like a Yoruba man.

Totally correct and the point the writer of the article below makes. I really think a lot of Nigerians are not mentally healthy because it is not right to keep saying things factual evidence and on-the-ground reality does not support.

Do some people appreciate the fall out, with real-world and on-the-ground consequences, that would be very visible if a people were tribally biased and prejudiced? I think some are confused. They simply don't know how to reconcile the messages of indoctrination that has destroyed their thinking with the reality they themselves witness and are a part of.


http://olaniyithevoice.wix.com/thenigerianvoicemagazine/apps/blog/the-sophistication-of-the-yoruba-people-in

THE SOPHISTICATION OF THE YORUBA PEOPLE IN THE SOUTH – WEST NIGERIA
4 FEB 2012


I have lived with my cousins in Port Harcourt where I ended up having friends who happens to be majority Ijaws. Generally, IJAWS are well meaning people and some of them are mostly naive/easily manipulated, but the honest fact is that nobody really represents them in Nigeria, their kinsmen are more concerned with their pockets instead of their communities not to talk about Nigeria as a whole.


I have tried on many occasions to let them know that they do not have any representation in Nigeria and same with Igbos after the demise of the great Zik and Ojukwu (Ikemba 1) etc. What you see in the South West are well guided persons who love their people and Nigeria as a whole. Femi Falana, Tunde Bakare, The Kutis, Fawehinmis, Wole Soyinka, MKO Abiola etc to mention a few, are not Yoruba leaders; instead are Yorubas who are fighting for not just Yorubas but Nigerians generally.


The Niger Deltas on the other hand have no leader willing to do anything for them specifically as a community. [b]Let me borrow from the words of Eze Basil Chinwendu Oluo “Our states collect almost 35% of resources accruing to this nation. We have NDDC a federal government commission saddled with the development of the oil producing areas.

We have Ministry of Niger Delta wholly dedicated to the affairs of our region. We have a President of the federal Republic of Nigeria who is our son, for almost 2 years now. I will also mention the Amnesty programme because my people have said it is a development worth mentioning. With all of these, HOW FAR HAVE WE PROGRESSED?” I will say come to Kempton Park in South Africa and see how much billions of dollars is been spent on Ijaw Militants’ and ask yourself what is the result. “Our Governors are not Southerners or Northerners do I need to mention their names? With billions of our funds abroad. Our council chairmen are not Southerner or Northerners. Our Legislators are not Southerners or Northerners.

Our contractor brothers who take money for contracts and never do the jobs are not Southerners or Northerners. Our chiefs who liaise with the oil companies to cheat our communities are not Southerners or Northerners. WE ARE OUR OWN BIGGEST PROBLEMS.” “Our brothers and sisters in positions of relevance have encapsulated themselves in GREED AND SHAMELESS CORRUPTION. And we the ordinary people have refused to see through this deceitful jamboree.”[/b]

Well I will say thank you to one of the honest Niger Delta child and I know many of them still exist and don’t shy away from the honest truth.


Back to my point, Niger Delta communities remain the same even after all the things of militancy etc; things have always been the same. My question is this; is Ben Bruce or Pat Utomi a Yoruba person? No, they are from the Niger Delta and if you ask them where they stand, trust me; they hang Lagos on their heart any day! Forget that Lagos follows other Yoruba states as a political bloc, we are all LAGOS over here by the Atlantic and whether Niger Delta, Igbo, North or whatever tribe, you will see things the Lagos way which is by extension the Yoruba way. You will see Niger Delta, Igbo, Hausa youths among the protesters in Lagos. The South-West States is mostly the only region in Nigeria where indigenes of other region can be Commissioners in the present Nigeria, example is Lagos State with Mr. Benjamin Akabueze Honourable Commissioner Economic Planning & Budget, it goes to show how diverse we are and how much we believe in the entity called Nigeria.

If you don't understand the sophistication the Yorubas have attained, you are most likely to call us traitors, parasites etc, The Yoruba’s will fight their own children when wrong but some of you will call it betrayal, we see it as discipline and taking a stand. We don't own Nigeria and we don't think only the Yorubas should rule Nigeria as evident with GEJ. We actually want a Nigeria where anyone is anything positive, a country where we all can be proud of been a citizen.

To accuse us of Tribalism in this protest is ignoring our sacrifices for Nigeria's democracy. We lost lots of our geniuses to attaining Democracy not for Yorubas but for Nigerians, We will support you when you do good no matter where you come from hence that is why some people think we are aligning with the North in this protest; This is the same north that most of our kinsmen and youths politically fought and lost their lives?. But the truth is we hate Abacha and Babangida but that doesn't mean we hate Balabade Musa or Nuhu Ribadu by tribal extension. Don't hate us for that. Also, don't hate us for not aligning with other "southerners" when you need to politically sabotage the "NORTH". We are OBJ's greatest nightmare during his terms in office and till date, in fact we did not vote for him during his first term. The Yorubas suffered under him despite the fact that he is a Yoruba man.

Have you bothered to ask yourself why did Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) House of Representative members vote for Aminu Waziri Tambulawal to be the Speaker of the House of Representative despite the fact that he is PDP, and considering the fact that his party presented a Yoruba candidate ? just because Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) won all South-West states doesn't mean Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) is a Yoruba party as evident in the parties list of Senators that spread beyond the Yoruba speaking states, Chris Ngige of Anambra State, George Akume of Benue State, Ehigie Edobor Uzamere and Domingo Alaba Obende of Edo State are Senators under Action Congress of Nigeria in the present dispensation.



Fela Kuti a true son of Yoruba land, was one person who stood firm and fought MKO Abiola & Aremu Olusegun Obasanjo a fellow son of Yoruba Land and from the same Home Town till his death in support of Nigeria as a whole. People outside the Yoruba's clan will see it as betrayal to their fellow brother but we choose not seeing everything in black and white. To put it lightly, a few people of the Niger Delta region and the Eastern region refers to us as parasites because of oil despite the fact that we have been the ones agitating for total control over your oil. We don't have friends or enemies as these are seasonal relationships in the mental cycle, the development of our land is what matters to us the most.

Let it be clear that the Yoruba land does have plenty of oil in Ondo State, and other mineral resources scattered across the South –West. The Niger Delta people must understand that their oil means less to us rather they have more to benefit from the South-West.


UNDERSTANDING THE SOPHISTICATION OF THE YORUBA PEOPLE WILL MAKE YOU TO BE NEUTRAL TOWARDS THE YORUBA RACE NOT HATE OR LOVE US.


We are not trabalistic because we disagree with Ojukwu, Jonathan or IBB etc, all this people own mighty properties and investments in Lagos, have we ever threatened to confiscate or destroy them? So we expect chicken headed, unexposed and small minded people like Annkio Briggs, Muhajid Dokubo Asari and other aspiring ethnicist dilettantes to stop spreading propagandas about the South West, as many of you in Yorubaland have seen if we were spreading 1% of the propaganda you spread about us, you won't be anywhere near the Yorubaland. If we decide to go the militancy way in South-West just like you are doing in the Niger your kinsmen and businessmen will lose billions of dollars, but that is not who we are…… think wise and think like human beings not like animals……..

By Olaniyi Thevoice Abodedele.

No way at all to tell and I do not think the answer is needed even if we could establish it comprehensively.

@OP

Resisting the PDP and secretly recording an election does not confer supreme 'smartness' on Aregbesola. I do think he is a very intelligent man though even looking at innovative schemes like OYES praised by some of the brightest technocrats employed by international development agencies.

Nigerians and most Africans, in my opinion and world experience, are not necessarily the best people to ask about 'smartness' because they will mistake that for the number of masters degree or PHD you have with no consideration for how real 'smartness' is defined worldwide by how your mind innovatively crafts solutions that improves how man lives. From this perspective, it is obvious Aregbesola is very smart.

To help us note smart leaders, and as the OP, simply include the proviso that considerations should include posters citing what their choice has done that is an innovative and definitive example for others. We can all agree Steve Jobs and Bill Gate are "smart". Let us raise the bar above frivolity and look at the exemplary policies and innovation Nigerian Governors have given us. That will quickly show us Who the "smart" leaders are.

Pukkah: I tire for many of those guys.

Most times I don't really feel like or have the time for commenting. But does one have a choice when you see charlartans, ignoramuses, mischievous people, minions and mercenaries spreading hate and falsehood?

In trying to show 'support' for Jonathan 2015, they're day by day creating enemies and alienating themselves. They issue threats and talk down on anybody and everybody that gives a word of advice,

Honestly, do they think many people (even within the SS) would like the kind of statements from Kuku and Dokubo?

Same here. If you are devoted to equity and fairness always, which sadly exclude many Nigerians, then prepare to be the enemies of some people the minute you are not backing them blindly. The good you have done is but a distant memory to be replaced with lies and revisionism. Many Nigerians are not enduringly committed to what is right. They only subscribe to that consideration when it suits them and their ethnic group.

[quote author=X-factoria]Just so you know how unaware and foolish you are, did you notice that was an advice to someone and not a direct response to you? Did you also notice that I have ignored all your posts and wouldn't waste time to take you up on your bigoted and myopic views?[/quote]Ha ha. Joker. You have a funny comprehension of what "ignored" means. Look at your rant only yesterday that contradicts the part in bold above and shows you as an irritable, petty and personality-centred liar:

https://www.nairaland.com/1306745/cpcs-fashakin-replies-reuben-abati

Gbawe, you are the one that should check your desperate self! You and Fashakin have a beclouded sense of judgment that belongs to the stone age as rightly pointed out by Abati. You should have been born when men walk around unclad.

The President, by choice, elected to speak at the conference. It was never compulsory. So what is the fuss to you if he delegates that duty and chooses to attend to what is obviously more beneficial than addressing the summit on generic issues?

Nigeria should be rid of all you jobless noisemakers for good!

Kindly tell the forum whether I addressed you to gain the vile and inexcusably uncouth response above from you - given that I never spoke to you on that thread to warrant such a tirade. Sadly your conduct on that thread, captured by the reference-database modern blog sites are, now ridicules your lie that you "ignore" what I write. Olodo

See how you are now a discredited liar simply because of your petty hatred for those who speak against your incompetent and clueless messiah? .You and others are merely immature creatures of hate who cannot deal with facts and the truths.

There may still be salvation for you and your sycophantic co-travellers if you simply accept that you don't have to sink with "fresh air"

[quote author=X-factoria]If you know that guy well, you'll just ignore him. His opinion on GEJ is much more about hatred than objectivity.[/quote]Can I beg you and others to ignore me from now on and show the forum you are men of your word? I challenge you to do so. I don't care for your opinion and that of the chap you quote. It is you people who follow me around and respond to all I say slavishly and obsessively because you are irritable and effeminate twits who will never admit that the written truth bothers you more than you care to admit.

Instead you all start attacking posters instead of their message. Please.please,please, pullllllleeeeeeasssse be my guest and ignore me from now henceforth. As if I gain anything talking to an airhead like you who is only full of petty hatred and nothing else. I don't have time for crybabies and little boys who came here looking for others to hold their hands.

Another article with a thinly disguised mission of vilifying Tinubu perhaps due to how some are now consumed with maligning him because of their wrong perception of him as the modern reincarnation of Awolowo.

This section of the article simply had me in stitches :

I am of the considered opinion that the South-West Geopolitical zone is descending into Feudalism, with Tinubu as its Feudal Lord, the Governors, as Nobles and the people as Serfs.

"Considered opinion" Sometimes, I deliberately go on British, Ghanaian, European and American political blogs just to escape the madness of how Nigerians speak. After a while, one needs to get away from it , and read sane political debates, to maintain sanity and perspective. How can the ridiculous submission above apply to the SW at this moment and not far more aptly to other regions given the reality we are all witnessing? We all see GEJ turning the ND into a 'might is right' enclave. He single-handedly installed Dickson as Governor and the shameless chap went ahead to make Patience Jonathan a Permanent secretary !!! Nigeria has a functional Navy yet her President is handing very lucrative maritime security contracts to militant warlord from his own region !! What is more feudal than that?

This deceptively revisionist writer is talking of Tokyo yet without the honesty to admit the influence of such characters, highest under OBJ, is on the wane under the ACN. Whereas in the ND, they are just entering a new era of a President entrenching his region in feudalism with how he is happy to promote Asari-Dokubo, Boyloaf, Tompolo et al into a nouveau rich and societally vocal class cowering the likes of David-West et al.


He talks of Fayose, Alao Akala et al, created by OBJ and the PDP, yet without the honesty to admit that such folks are inactive today and distinctly of the calibre the SW has now laudably shunned in preference for proven performers and intellectuals.

Does this writer even know what feudalism is and how to correctly apply it to an example?

If a people are united in purpose and outlook, acting together amicably and making political choices without rancour, how can that be interpreted as "feudalism"? Or is it that some , along with other issues they have against others, are now so used to disunity, noise-making and disharmony they now confuse that to indicate civility and progress?

Abeg, the writer should let honesty shape his outlook. If that were the case, he would realise the SW is the last region any sane person will denote as "descending into feudalism".

Nothing new here. Another honest Nigerian saying the truth about the abysmally poor leadership of GEJ.

Pukkah: Slave and master relationship?

Now tell me, mention the names of those who fought the military governments of IBB and Abacha to have the democracy of today.

Even Tinubu, whom you guys deride and abuse today, funded the pro-democracy activists more than anyone else. He was also in the trenches.

Where was Jonathan then? Where was Clarke? Where was Odili?

Do you know the meaning of 'Abacha politicians'?

We still remember those folks who were begging abacha to continue in office.

Who's is the master and who's the slave?

Did the SW whine, cry or yell when Obasanjo was battling Atiku? Did the OPC or any other group threaten violence?

Now, who is a master and who is a slave or house boy?

Didn't the same SW support Jonathan against Turai/Yar'adua?

Now, who is the Master of the game and who is the Silly Slave?

It's obvious that you guys are getting emotional and worked up over this but it's in your interest not to trample on reason and make more enemies.

You could repeat this a million times and many would still not have the honesty or uprightness to admit the truth in what you say. We may hear ludicrous and unbelievable excuses such as how Tinubu had a crystal ball that told him where we would be today and that is why he pretended to fight for democracy back then.

They will tell you Fayemi heavily invested in Radio Kudirat and devoted himself to democracy, to the extent of becoming an internationally acclaimed champion for it, merely because he is a Yoruba man totally consumed with deceiving the ND, SE and others Even Femi Falana had an agenda when he was fighting tooth and nail to prevent the death of Ken Saro-Wiwa.

They will say anything but admit how Yorubas have always played their part, and never stood by merely to watch, in critical times. Sadly, this is the level of indoctrination to which some of our fellow Nigerians have fallen victim. They will shamefully and wilfully revise history we all witnessed , where they played nil positive roles, to the extent sane folks will have to wonder if Nigeria is one big asylum hosting millions of mad people.

This same OBJ, much as I despise him, was one of the first prominent Nigerian leaders, along with Buhari, to publicly state that Yar Adua should step down and hand over to GEJ if illness prevents him from continuing. Where were ND leaders then like Kuku, Clarke, Orubebe et al back then? Bakare, Soyinka and even my humble self, on the Streets of London, took to protesting in favour of GEJ being made President as the constitution provided. Where were the "brothers" of GEJ then who now revel in calling other ethnic groups unsavoury names today?

Today, and very conveniently for ingrates who mistake factual criticism of GEJ to be ethnic hatred of him, the Yorubas are "parasites", "slaves" and other unsavoury tags simply because they do not believe in blindly siding with "southern brother" GEJ and giving him blanket support in return for failing Nigeria woefully.

I will advise fans of GEJ to learn what democracy is about instead of thinking insults, name-calling and revisionism will get them anywhere.

ckkris: Americans generally look down on people in order to steal from them to enhance their own lifestyle. Americans rigged George Bush twice into power. Nigerians also understand how to win election in Nigeria more than any American professor. You talk a lot of theories, but on election day you can't show your face in Bauchi, where Boko Haram will seize all ballot papers for Buhari. The way things stand TODAY Jona will win 2015, just like Obama won 2012 in spite of enormous distractions. Whitemen are not always right, especially in human relationships.

I never made the argument that they are. My point is that living in Nigeria does not make you an authority on what goes on in the echelons of power. If anything, majority of Nigerians are bystanders who do not even know as much as a neutral American who is able to look at issues before him dispassionately. This is my point.

I have no quarrel with you or any supporter of GEJ. I am merely asking you guys to accept that GEJ , merely because he is President, cannot unilaterally forge a 2015 win for himself when the system is vehemently against him.

If ordinary Nigerians embraced pragmatism and reality more, then we would be far more politically sophisticated and firmly beyond the age of voting along ethnic, religious or sentimental lines. What is more ridiculous and shameful than a people collectively ignoring the record of an administrator, that would have shown them he is a big zero and failure in the making, only to the vote for him because he had no shoes?

Bros, forget your angle of argument. Many Nigerians living in Nigeria are clueless. I mean no disrespect saying that but it is the reality of things vis-a-vis how successive leaders have underdeveloped Nigerians and left many of them unable to think effectively and critically.

DrummaBoy: Sorry guys. Been occupied all day. Actually religion section is my thing; only popped into politics to post this. But let me try and some questions directed @ me and other issues

1. Word was around town that the bridge was to be commissioned today but apparently it seem work is still in progress. It will be commissioned b4 week ends.

2. As per being narrow. True. But it seem that is the only way to accommodate the structures around without demolishing

3. The 2.2 billion is only one person's word on it. Last I heard it was to cost less than a billion

4. The quality of the bridge cannot be appreciated from those photos except U see it live

5. It is not right to compare Oyo with Akwa Ibom. Oyo receives 3 billion monthly. Akwa Ibom receive no less than 10 billion. And Oyo has to cater for a larger population and larger work force.

Ibadan people are really excited bout the bridge. This is a lot better than a gov' who spend state money on drinks

That is all !!! All this negative 'amebo' antics from non-stakeholders is disgraceful to be honest.

ckkris: Does this Gbawe live in Nigeria? I wonder.If Gbawe lives in Nigeria and still writes the way he does, then Gbawe is naive, extremely naive.

What is better than having the patience to see who is proven right? 2015 is not far away and I think GEJ may even be done as early as the 2014 Primaries of the PDP. Even American analysts who do not live in Nigeria know more about how the Country is set up than the average Nigerian so what exactly is your point about living in Nigeria? When has domiciliary status alone ever singularly qualified anyone to be an authoritative voice regarding the affairs of a nation? If that was the case, should ordinary Nigerians, like you, not be far more politically sophisticated than they are currently?

visalo: you are taking the power of imcumbency for granted. the last time i check the list of pdp political heavy weight. Obj name has been conspicuously missing..obj has long time being sideline from pdp. if you think he is powerful as you assume him, why did her beloved daughter fail in the last senatorial election. 2015 is not too far from now. but remember only the living that can have say. God is greater than us. Tell obj not to boast

You guys keep touting this argument of how OBJ is now a "nobody". Is OBJ the only person to worry about? You guys should stop this myopic and crassly unintelligent focus on "powerful men" like OBJ, Anenih, GEJ et al. They are not the entire picture as far as the overall power struggle.

I think clannish supporters of GEJ will soon realise why the PDP is called a "Northern Party" by intelligent analysts. I read certain things here that just makes me laugh. Beyond all the emotions and childishness of wishing a Lamb can become a Lion, because some romantically wish it so, is the reality that concerns democracy as a game of numbers.

This is why empty threats , rather than broad-based bridge building, is now the favoured tool of team GEJ.

ckkris: Jona is in very good standing to win in 2015.

One thing about the support base of GEJ is that it is not driven by innovation,ideas and intelligence. Rather, all those who gather behind GEJ are (1) mercenaries "chopping" his dollar or (2) ethnic/sectional jingoist who fail to accept the simple statistical inevitability of how GEJ and his ethnically loyal support cannot go it alone.

Anyone who knows Nigerian politics will understand that the NGF Chairman election should not have been won by Amaechi if GEJ was a moderately sagacious President even averagely liked/supported by his fellow political stakeholders. With the power available to GEJ, the NGF election should not have been close let alone end in the win of Amaechi that has now embarrassed the Presidency into the uncouth and undignified actions we are seeing.

This is only the NGF election as well with relatively little at stake !!! Folks like you simply do not have a clue. Why do you think the kinsmen of GEJ are issuing threats daily and going to grovel to the USA to help them solidify their threat of how only a GEJ win in 2015 can guarantee peace? It is because , unlike the sentimental folks on this forum, they fully appreciate the statistical number of the opposition to GEJ's ambition to appreciate he can never win in a democratic electoral test of popularity. GEJ, whether folks like you accept it or not, has sickened and alienated everyone deliberately. There is no way back for him.

eggheaders: coming from a dedicated gej b.all licking addict it's no surprise.

I would advise you to ignore the cretin as most do here.