Politics › Re: Afenifere Blasts Ahmadu Ali For Denigrating Yorubas by Gbawe2: 11:46am On Mar 19, 2013*. Modified: 12:07pm On Mar 19, 2013 |
Ngwakwe: So, they were ungrateful because Obasanjo refused to will the whole National Wealth to the Yorubas and channel all developmental projects to only Yoruba land.
Anyway, 2035 is una next turn. Do with Nigeria whatever it deems fit in una eye, provided Nigeria exist by then.
Obasanjo still remains an illustrious son of Yoruba Kingdom/Nation. Why must people like you comment so falsely and lie against others so wickedly? So, in your mind the Yorubas despise OBJ because he did not give us the wealth of Nigeria? Carry on deceiving yourself. Let me also tell you all something. You come here telling these lies and deluding yourselves. You don't understand you do yourself the greatest disservice because you are bastardizing and warping your own character. You may be programmed to hate Yoruba folks and you may think you are attacking an "enemy" with these lies but you are only damaging your own core character. Keep it up till you will not even be able to be amongst normal people due to your paranoid delusions and hallucinations. All I see on this forum, with the ungracious and lies-based attack against the Yoruba ethnic group by your ilk, are people who are so far gone in hatred to the extent they deny the truth on the ground that makes a mockery of all their claims.I don't know how you trivialize, with lies, the justified serious issues the Yorubas have against a very malevolent and vindictive man. It is a direct and proportional representation of your hatred that OBJ is now a hero to side with against his ethnic group over a matter even a stark raviing lunatic should not adjudge in OBJ's favour. |
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Politics › Re: Afenifere Blasts Ahmadu Ali For Denigrating Yorubas by Gbawe2: 10:48am On Mar 19, 2013 |
lekzyn: yes Baba Iyabo is an illustrious son of Yoruba land but the Yorubas will only worship those that have or will impact there lives positively not those that stole their vote in 2003 through do-or-die means to win an election.
The Yorubas may not produce a president till the next century but the region is among the best region in the country if not the best in terms of infrastructural facilities, education, industry, and so on. this is the fastest growing region in Nigeria and this region has been growing rapidly since 1950's This is what we should all be pursuing and I will urge some to go and invest their mind in what really matter instead of seeking vapid confrontation daily that makes it so obvious , regardless of what they say, they are obsessed with others and unable to move on. A man only invokes bad luck on himself when he tells wicked lies against others. You are cursing yourself doing that. When people , for example, are hospitable and civil to you yet you go around saying otherwise, then you are damning yourself to failure in life and the wrath of God/karma. It is cries of Yorubas are "most evil" , "most tribalisitc" we hear daily from deluded, disgruntled and bitter elements, yet what is the reality on the ground? It is very important to be wary of the characters on this forum who delude themselves so openly. Those who lie blatantly against others as many do against the Yorubas here daily, whether this wish to accept it or not, are the real haters. No more no less and certainly no long thing. |
Politics › Jonathan Is Doing His Job By Okey Ndibe by Gbawe2(op): 8:59am On Mar 19, 2013 |
Okey Ndibe states what some of us have always argued here. GEJ was drafted in and supported massively by the most corrupt in Nigeria because they know he is a 'kindred spirit' who will help them maintain their choke-hold on Nigeria's wealth while walking around with impunity. Case in point, fuel subsidy scam. Jonathan is indeed doing his job. Just not the job Nigerians voted him to do. Rather, he is doing the job his corrupt AGIP and political pals helped him into office to do. "Fresh air". http://saharareporters.com/column/jonathan-doing-his-job-okey-ndibeJonathan Is Doing His Job By Okey Ndibe Posted: March 18, 2013 - 21:53
Okey Ndibe
Last week, the US government was so miffed by President Goodluck Jonathan’s pardon of several big-name Nigerian convicts – among them former Governor Diepreye Alamieyeseigha – that its embassy in Nigeria issued a sharp rebuke. In a tweet, US diplomats in Abuja said they were “deeply disappointed” by Mr. Jonathan’s action. The tweet continued: “We see this as a setback in the fight against corruption.”
The reaction was a rather startling, if refreshing, breach of diplomatic convention. But its premise was also fundamentally misconceived.
Forget about “deep disappointment.” Nobody who has observed the Jonathan administration from the moment of its conception should even be disappointed, period. The government acted altogether in character in pardoning Mr. Alamieyeseigha. It can be said, in fact, that President Jonathan did the job he was “elected” to do – pure and simple.
For me, the truly baffling thing about the US tweet was the presupposition that Mr. Jonathan was ever engaged in a “fight against corruption.” Flowing from that profound misperception was the claim that the granting of official clemency to Mr. Alamieyeseigha represented “a setback” in that ostensible fight. The US government got it wrong – dead wrong.
Let’s be clear. Mr. Jonathan’s administration has never been in the business of fighting corruption. Yes, it often invokes the rhetoric of combating corruption. But truly fighting? No! Does Corruption dabble in the business of fighting Corruption? There’s no real moral or ethical difference between Mr. Alamieyeseigha and those who presumed to forgive him for pocketing millions of dollars of public funds. The two parties here, forgiver and forgiven, belong within the same conclave of iniquity. The Jonathan administration reeks of corruption. Since occupying the throne in Aso Rock, this particular government has accumulated a dossier of scandals – from questionable, smelly deals in the oil sector to the hiring of political operatives notorious for their stinky pasts.
The Nigerian president has been characterized in some quarters as confused and clueless. It’s an unfair – and patently false – charge. Mr. Jonathan is as clear-eyed about his mission as any of his predecessors. And one thing he understands clearly is that he was not put in Aso Rock to fight corruption. He was put in there to pretend that there’s a “fight.” That fight, he understands, can be waged only with speeches, whilst maintaining a conspicuous respect for the rights and privileges of Nigeria’s who’s who in the corruption industry.
Former Governor James Onanefe Ibori of Delta must be regretting the day he fled to Dubai as Jonathan’s security agents hounded him in the creeks of the Niger Delta. Discovered in his Dubai hideout by the ever-alert Interpol, Mr. Ibori was extradited to the UK where he stood trial for money laundering and received a 13-year jail sentence. The British were able to strike the fear of the law in an Ibori who, in Nigeria, swaggered his way to acquittal on more than 100 counts of corruption and money laundering! In the UK where it’s harder to buy judges, Mr. Ibori ate the humble pie, pleading guilty to avert a more damaging trial.
Had he given thought to the matter, Mr. Ibori would have stayed back in Nigeria. Indeed, he should have handed himself to officers of Mr. Jonathan’s Economic and Financial Crimes Commission. The worst prospect would have been his arraignment. He would then have been able to send a delegation of “elders” and “royal fathers” to go and see Mr. Jonathan on his behalf. The peace-building missionaries would have assured the president of ex-Governor Ibori’s “total loyalty” and implored him to regard the errant governor as his “political son.” That would have been the end of the matter! Or, not quite: Mr. Ibori might have landed a choice contract or two – or some juicy appointment, to use a favorite Nigerian adjective.
President Jonathan has a senior special adviser on ethics on his payroll. Yet, anybody who longs to take a measure of the president’s ethical funds has only to look at the shining star of Tony Anenih in the Jonathan firmament. In the last three months, the Presidency appointed Mr. Anenih to chair the board of the Nigerian Ports Authority and then elevated the selfsame Anenih to the post of chairman of the ruling party’s Board of Trustees.
That Mr. Jonathan saw fit to bestow the two posts on Mr. Anenih speaks volumes – about the two men. It says that Mr. Jonathan “knows” what he’s doing, and in particular that he knows how to prepare for and win the 2015 presidential (s)election. In Nigeria’s political circles, Mr. Anenih is called the “Leader” and “Mr. Fix-it.” Yet, the man was a woeful failure at his most prominent past assignment as Nigeria’s Works Minister. Under his watch, Nigerian roads remained dismal, even though N300 billion had been budgeted for his ministry.
Mr. Anenih’s accolades credit the man’s foxiness, especially his expertise in turning sure losers into certain winners (or vice versa). During the Obasanjo days, Mr. Anenih was the first to announce to the world that there was no vacancy in Aso Rock – before the PDP ran away with wangled landslides. Summoned to Mr. Jonathan’s side as the 2015 polls draw closer, Nigerians must now take seriously a recent warning from Kema Chikwe that Mr. Jonathan was already virtually re-(s)elected.
A friend of mine jokingly derided Mr. Anenih as “chairman of the PDP’s board of the tired.” But the matter is too serious to be consigned to a joke. At bottom, the Jonathan-Anenih coziness reveals something about the president’s vision of where Nigeria is – and where it should be headed. It is a terrifying vision and prospect. It’s also consistent with the president’s temperament, outlook and unimpressive record.
Not since former President Olusegun Obasanjo personally oversaw the petroleum industry has there been more apprehension about corruption – the absence of transparency – in the sector. Yet, Mr. Jonathan’s body language betrays a man at peace with monumental corruption. For sure, he has never contemplated acting to address the documentation of sleaze in the oil sector.
Mr. Jonathan has not disappointed me precisely because he has lived up – or down – to my expectations of his presidency. The forces that conspired to enthrone him were not looking for a sure-footed, determined and nimble crusader against corruption. They wanted a certified protector of the interests of the corrupt, in fact a veritable fertilizer of corruption. He has fit the billing and served the mission.
Former EFCC chairman Nuhu Ribadu was quoted in the New York Times as deploring the pardon granted Mr. Alamieyeseigha. And then he said, “Corruption is our main problem in Nigeria. We don’t need this kind of negative signal. This is a tragedy.” Well, President Jonathan would disagree. For him, corruption is not Nigeria’s main problem: it is Nigeria’s main opportunity. And the clemency to the Alamieyeseighas, seen by Mr. Ribadu as a negative sign and tragedy, may well be Mr. Jonathan’s assurance to the “selectors” of Nigeria’s president that he is ever dead set against rocking the boat.
Memo to the US government: Mr. Jonathan is doing his job. A central requirement of that job is to NOT fight corruption. |
Politics › Re: Alamieyeseigha's Pardon: Bill Gates Cancels Trip To Nigeria by Gbawe2: 8:21pm On Mar 18, 2013 |
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Politics › Re: Alamieyeseigha's Pardon: Bill Gates Cancels Trip To Nigeria by Gbawe2: 7:19pm On Mar 18, 2013 |
shymexx: I just hope Uncle Gbawe is n't throwing subliminal shots at me... 
I already said that the rogue who was pardon deserves to be shot dead for stealing billions from Nigeria... However, what's Bill Gates' fixation with Nigeria, anyway Why can't he take his billions to countries like Somalia, Niger, Afghanistan et al that actually need his superficial "help?"
He stays coming back for population control to inject innocent kids with expired drugs, all in the name of donations to Africa... AFrica doesn't need to freaking aids from no one - keep your charity and aids, and help us function in the world on a level-playing field... That's all we, tired of all these malicious stupidity they always hide behind "aids" for the people from the "dark continent." We're better off without aids and these people interfering in our damn business... They're mad at Alamieyeseigha or whatever that skirt-wearing clown is called, yet give GEJ(an utterly corrupt and useless president) red-carpet treatment all the time... Who's fooling who
Someone of you superifcial and certificate-thumping pseudo-intelligent Nigerians need to start thinking with your damn brain cells - not everything out there is freaking black or white!!!
Honestly, this generation of Nigerians is a FAILED and LOST one - I just hope the kids coming after us are better than us... May God help us all!! Shymexx stop with the paranoia. You are not even on my mind. If anyone indicates my thinking it is that slowpoke Cap28. Like I said, I have no qualms ignoring rants from his ilk ti won ba ta si mi . Otherwise, I will expose their hypocrisy because I am someone who walks the walk. Unlike clowns who take it upon themselves to insult everyone and proclaim themselves Lumumba reborn and more pro-Africa than others. I don't have time for that garbage. Because some of us are moderate and do not preach hate against anyone does not make us blind to our responsibilities and it certainly does not give empty barrels, not even brave enough to leave their comfort zone, carte blanche to insult others with their fake garbage. |
Politics › Re: Alamieyeseigha's Pardon: Bill Gates Cancels Trip To Nigeria by Gbawe2: 7:10pm On Mar 18, 2013 |
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Politics › Re: Alamieyeseigha's Pardon: Bill Gates Cancels Trip To Nigeria by Gbawe2: 6:52pm On Mar 18, 2013*. Modified: 7:08pm On Mar 18, 2013 |
Katsumoto: Has Rossikk ever identified himself as a Nigerian/African living abroad? I have always assumed he was based in Nigeria. Nevertheless, everyone's situation is different. Not everyone is in a position to return to Nigeria/Africa for various reasons. Africans in Diaspora still contribute a great deal to the continent. Nigerians in diaspora are amongst the greatest contributors to the Nigerian economy. People in diaspora can still love their motherland from their bases abroad.
Having said that, I agree with the underlying tone of your post. If you are not contributing in funds, ideas, and developmental projects, then it can be a bit rich professing Pan-africanism rather vociferously. But even Pan-Africans who are not contributing are still much better than those such as Rossikk who are a part of the problem due to brown nosing for crumbs. If you are not a part of the solution, try not to add to the problems. Rossikk is part of the problem with some of his asinine comments on this thread alone. How does a sane person rationalize that a country of 160 million will tank if a criminal is sent to prison? My brother, I am not talking about him specifically. There are many of them here vapidly espousing Pan-Africanism when their noise ultimately rings hollow because they will not even get involved in any shape or form. I would have no problem with their rants, and would even remain dismissive of it, if the are also not invariably those always quick to insult anyone who does not share their extreme and hard-line views. Regarding diasporans, I am one also and remain proudly so even as I am now fully involved with Africa through business endeavours. You are absolutely correct that most love their Nation proudly. They even contribute from abroad. Noteworthy is the fact that many are well-adjusted and not mentally damaged goods always rounding on others and defending our leaders blindly for their imbecilic actions. As for your conclusion, are you surprised to note his ilk think like that? Everything is about blindly defending the "brother leader", never mind he is totally wrong, against the "white devils". Charity begins at home and I particularly dislike these idiots because they are dishonest and a waste of space. Come and see rural villages, throughout Africa, in Africa where it is much maligned 'whitey' manning vital health and education NGO's. You will feel ashamed - especially juxtaposing what you see with the noise of these charlatans here. You would think , for all their noise, Africa would be a wonderful story of self-help. This is why I hate these MIA (missing in action) clowns. They won't act yet will run around insulting everyone. What are these Nairaland pan-Africanists clowns doing? Are the starving and sick children not their children? I have no time for them. They can only fool those who don't know the reality with their flowery speech. The conclusion is that there is no justifiable excuse for what GEJ did but when has that ever made sense to racist who feel compelled to defend their leaders blindly only because appropriate and correct criticism comes from those of the "wrong" skin colour and from the wrong "imperialist" nation? |
Politics › Re: Alamieyeseigha's Pardon: Bill Gates Cancels Trip To Nigeria by Gbawe2: 6:39pm On Mar 18, 2013 |
oyb: gbam Man mi, these clowns are pathetic. Most of them are nothing but pitiful racists blaiming their failure entirely on 'whitey'. WHat is stopping these budding Nkrumahs and Lumumba from coming back home? Are they all politically exiled abroad or persecuted asylum seekers unable to return? Who are these losers fooling? Perhaps someone forgot to tell them that the Nkrumahs, Lumumba, Awolowo, Azikiwe et al came back to practice what they preach. These clowns are the sort who go abroad and can't hack it. Their fellow successful diasporan, who got where they did through hard work, are "Uncle Toms". They go around, rather than just crack on with life even with all its challenges, using airy fairy 'persecuted brother' speech and perpetually talking about conspiracy theories all involving the "white devil". I can't stand these fools and empty barrels. Let them tell us their involvement with Africa. No doubt it is zero. Worthless people. |
Politics › Re: Alamieyeseigha's Pardon: Bill Gates Cancels Trip To Nigeria by Gbawe2: 6:19pm On Mar 18, 2013 |
Katsumoto: Dude
You are a political jobber hiding behind some BS Pan-Africanism. How do you explain the asinine comment above? Continue to sell your soul thinking that it won't impact your children negatively. The Nigerian economy would tank if a criminal/thief is sent to prison? ? ? 
I put it to you that you are a part of the problem. Leaders like GEJ may not even know the effect of their stupid policies/decisions because they have sycophants such as yourself who don't give them the true picture. How will Nigeria progress when sycophantic political jobbers are alleging that Nigeria would tank if a wanted criminal is sent to prison. They are the worst kind. Absolutely worthless to their Nation with the automatic defence they always put up in support of what no sane person should defend. I argue it everyday that GEJ is an Idi Amin and Abacha 'throwback' without the crude brutality. One has to wonder if this is what these hollow thinkers, masquerading as 'Pan-Africanist, consider a good template for the development of the "mother land" or whether they are actually vapid and pityful racists or failed and bitter diasporans who believe they must automatically defend their black leaders,regardless of whether he is right or wrong, once said leader is criticised by the "white establishment/power". Worthless people. The irony is that most will never leave their diasporan base to come and put their money where their loud mouth is. Perhaps someone should remind them that all their pan-African idols came home to get involved and make a difference instead of limiting their input to combating and negating anything 'whitey' says against Africa from the comfort of London or Atlanta. Charity begins at home and I have no respect for any clown who does not appreciate that. If you want to talk the talk, then walk the walk rather than ranting about loving Africa and wanting what is best for her from outside the continent. |
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Politics › Re: Yorubas Are Ungrateful To Obasanjo - Ahmadu Ali by Gbawe2: 8:21am On Mar 18, 2013 |
cheikh: @Op
Only an incorrigible anti democrat will make such a statement yet he claims to be a democrat and a believer of One Nigeria . It is obvious he comes from the school of thought- that thinks that Nigerians should be Grateful whenever he renders a service/does his job in whatever capacity as an employee of voters/Nigerians. Only a dictator or someone who lacks basic understanding of his Responsibility to voters and citizens, would think in those lines. Anyway, he's an ex military man hence his almost instinctive reflex is that of a mindless/thoughtless zombie. Old habits die hard hence his loyalty to Obj is understandable. That's how old soldiers survive . Correct. By implication, the responses to Ali's statement on this thread reveals vile thing about Nigerian youths and expose them as being woeful and lousy in comparison to their peers worldwide. A total disgrace in other words. I have to say it is an extreme disappointment to note the clueless and unthinking rabble-rousers Nigeria parade as youths these days. |
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Politics › Re: Yorubas Are Ungrateful To Obasanjo - Ahmadu Ali by Gbawe2: 5:56pm On Mar 17, 2013 |
[quote author=tayeola24@yahoo]am dissapointed in everyone making comment here ,what we youth should be talking of is how to revoluate dis old fools calling themslves our leaders,rather than abusing ourselves on nairaland.dis wil not do us any good cos d person dat made assertion Ahmadu Alli is and old fool dat had been reaping frm naija frm decades.pls stop all dis tribal abusive or acusations.[/quote]Correct ... and it is the same hackneyed and divisive messages the Ali's of the world have been coming out with for decades. What is shocking is the perpetual receptiveness of Nigerian youths to the incorrect, dishonest and revisionist garbage utterances of Ali and his ilk. In other saner more politically sophisticated climes, the youths will be united in telling Ali to go and sit down. |
Politics › Re: Yorubas Are Ungrateful To Obasanjo - Ahmadu Ali by Gbawe2: 5:41pm On Mar 17, 2013 |
It is funny how some, because they are bush men, don't even see what is wrong with Ali's statement they are celebrating. Where is it currently fashionable for leaders to talk like this and be applauded if not the hate-filled cauldron that is Nigeria? Can Cameron come out to say Scots are "ungrateful"?
These Nigerian Dinosaurs are only comfortable talking like this because they know the unsophisticated, tribalistic and feudal cave men audience that will receive their message and fight over it. Occurrences here bears out this simple logic.
Ali has no right, if not a prejudiced and dishonest old man, to stereotype an entire ethnic group negatively because they rightly and justifiably accord his messiah no respect. Who disrespects Mandela in SA? Or Kufour in Ghana? OBJ is not respected by the Yorubas because he was a malevolent and vengeful man who, at various stages, went out of his way to do destructive things to his region. Simple !!!
Ali would acknowledge this if he is not an example of the malevolent throwback Dinosaurs we need to get rid of. The Yorubas would have to be aberrant to be grateful to a man like OBJ. In fact, if most Nigerians were not supinely docile , apathetic and politically unsophisticated, then the likes of Ali et al would not be able to be uttering this revisionist garbage. But hey, we can only look at the endorsement Ali gets here to know what Nigeria is and why the Alis of the world will continue to insult and patronise us till they are in their grave. |
Politics › Re: We've Put Our Ambitions Aside For Apcs Success - Ribadu by Gbawe2: 2:54pm On Mar 17, 2013 |
Well-said Mallam Ribadu. Producing competent leaders at Presidential, judicial and State level is a foregone conclusion for those who are conversant with the leaders who form the APC. |
Politics › Re: Jonathan "Struggling To Build" His Village House by Gbawe2: 2:40pm On Mar 17, 2013 |
Sharrks: I bet you,that nobody in his/her right frame of mind, will delibrately insult the exalt office of the presidency, except being compelled to do so, by some rather absurd,illogical and puerile behavior that fall short of the societal expectation of the holder of such prestigeous insignia Thank you. Senseless to blame people for their dismissal of unpresidential and inane utterances from an unpresidential President. When GEJ talks, one discerns the ruminations of a very simple and unsophisticated mind. Rather than some getting angry at the flak GEJ is getting, they should inspect his laughable comments. His children "patronising" his village indeed. |
Politics › Re: Yorubas Are Ungrateful To Obasanjo - Ahmadu Ali by Gbawe2: 2:04pm On Mar 17, 2013*. Modified: 4:08pm On Mar 17, 2013 |
Sibrah: I hope the Mods are taking notice of the unprovoked attack on this thread now and not when it degenerates into a full tribal battle. My good man, just try and ignore their childish behaviour. Many have an axe to grind, that is literally killing them, to the extent they cannot reason effectively any longer. Even those who hate the Yoruba yet retain sanity and a sense of perspective/fairness will realise that the Yorubas would have to be insane to have any gratitude to OBJ. Gratitude for what? Gratitude for him setting the SW back 10 years with his many thuggish and mediocre impositions like the former London taxi driver OBJ made an SW Governor? The issue is fairly straightforward. Ali, OBJ and their ilk are history. They can do their thing in the background but their sort will never enjoy influential political office in the SW except anything the PDP decides to 'dash' them at federal level. It is now about erudite, sophisticated, debonair and deserving leaders like Fashola, Fayemi, Ajimobi et al. |
Politics › Re: Obasanjo Shuns PDP Peace Meeting Again by Gbawe2: 1:50pm On Mar 17, 2013 |
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Politics › Re: Jonathan "Struggling To Build" His Village House by Gbawe2: 1:36pm On Mar 17, 2013 |
Rossikk: You sound really stup.id. It's obvious you're the type who doesn't know where his village is. Dimwit. It is the unsophisticated man you worship who sounds stupid with his inane talk. Loser. |
Politics › Re: Yorubas Are Ungrateful To Obasanjo - Ahmadu Ali by Gbawe2: 1:32pm On Mar 17, 2013 |
emmatok: What an Irony SE people who claims to be educated cannot read and comprehend.
Ali is saying Yorubas are not grateful to their Yoruba brother OBJ.
This attest to the fact that Yorubas are OBJ biggest critics.
And who is ALI to tell Yorubas not criticize their leaders. This is the crux of the matter. Even children, innately loyal to parents, will reject a father who has failed them. At the end of the day, Ali should pray his region becomes sophisticated enough so that undoubtedly bad/malevolent leaders are rejected, for the betterment of society, and without recourse to tribalism, instead of taking to the media to suggest the Yorubas owes OBJ blind loyalty. Frustration will kill the Alis and OBJs of the world because never again, in the SW, will the political system be as it was under them whereby crude dinosaurs controlled important positions. From now on it is about sophisticated, exposed and talented 'Omoluabis' everywhere as it should be. |
Politics › Re: Jonathan "Struggling To Build" His Village House by Gbawe2: 12:01pm On Mar 17, 2013 |
Jonathan talking wistfully about his village home? Surprise, surprise. The man's mentality and outlook is 100% village-like and agrarian. This is the simple truth. |
Politics › Re: I Am Struggling To Build My House In My Village – Jonathan by Gbawe2: 11:45am On Mar 17, 2013 |
Jonathan talking wistfully about his village home? Surprise, surprise. The man's mentality and outlook is 100% village-like and agrarian. This is the simple truth. |
Politics › Re: APC Will Restore Hope In Governance -oyegun by Gbawe2(op): 11:34am On Mar 17, 2013 |
[quote author=$£yi]Once you give attention seekers what they're thirsty of, they drag you down to the shallow way of thinking they're used to displaying. Ignoring them is not a bad option.[/quote]I usually do but the vermins always infest and ruin threads. This is not a forum where people openly stand for what is right either, to protect the integrity of political discussions, so you will sometime be left with no option but to tell off these rodents. |
Politics › Re: APC Will Restore Hope In Governance -oyegun by Gbawe2(op): 11:28am On Mar 17, 2013 |
[quote author=Mr. Globe]I addressed the article Mr. man. I don't know why you have to let your dead conscience take its toll on you. In any case you lack any form of credibility on this forum so when you post articles like this, its only right to remind you who you are.[/quote]M0r0n. You call this garbage 'addressing the article' ? like they have restored in ACN and CPC state. *sigh* In any case, Did I write the article to warrant the personalised attention of you and your over-emotional co-travellers? Why not react to what your political leaders are saying? Am I to assume you subconsciously view me as your boss/superior to the extent you must always obsessively personalise response when I speak instead of dealing with the subject matter? For someone who has no credibility here you and your ilk sure devote a lot of time to responding to anything I do here. You are not fooling anyone. Quit with the crush and define your own identity here. Stand for something for once in your wretched existence. |
Politics › Re: APC Will Restore Hope In Governance -oyegun by Gbawe2(op): 10:56am On Mar 17, 2013 |
[quote author=Mr. Globe]like they have restored in ACN and CPC state. *sigh*. *Throws this another Gbawe's desperate propaganda thread into the thrash*[/quote] confusion247: I can now see that Gbawe is hoping to be the chief press secretary to a phantom and un-electable APC president. APC, CPC,ACN should have known that their is no vacancy in aso rock till 2019. A vote for ACP is a vote to promote terrorism and terrorists. What is wrong with you people? Can you not even discuss the article presented instead of focusing on your fellow forumer? Whether you know it or not, your ilk illustrate what is wrong with the average Nigerian youths and how he is totally bereft of idea or original/productive thought. If you have anything to say in regard to the original article then say it. Otherwise, get lost. |
Politics › APC Will Restore Hope In Governance -oyegun by Gbawe2(op): 10:13am On Mar 17, 2013 |
http://tribune.com.ng/news2013/index.php/en/component/k2/item/7322-apc-will-restore-hope-in-governance-oyegunAPC will restore hope in governance -Oyegun Written by Friday, 15 March 2013 00:00 font size Print Email
https://tribune.com.ng/news2013/images/Boyegun%20.jpg Chief John Odigie Oyegun, a former governor of Edo State and one of the leaders of the yet to be registered All Progressives Congress (APC) speaks, in this interview with Banji Aluko, on the state of the nation, the real reasons behind the formation of APC and other issues. Excerpts:
AS one of the people behind the formation of the All Progressives Congress (APC), what is the motivation behind your decision to work together for a grand alliance?
What I can say is that the travails and woes of this nation have forced the leaders of the various opposition parties to recognise the fact that this nation needs to be rescued from the inexorable degeneration which, if not checked, could lead to a very bad situation. I mean there is no question at all that we are rushing towards a precipice. That explains the reason for the coming together of the opposition parties. The main objective is to present to the Nigerian nation, a different platform and perspective and what people will call ideology. We want to restore credibility and people’s belief back to governance. I read an editorial that made an unfortunate point that there is no much difference between the opposition and the PDP but I want to say that there is much difference.
What are these differences?
I’m not saying that all our governments are free of corruption but I’m saying that our governors are being responsive to the needs of their people, beginning from Lagos State to other states in the South West and Edo State. Even a few PDP governors are beginning to copy the examples that are being set by the progressive governors in the country. I’m glad about that because in the days when we had regions, the pacemaker was Obafemi Awolowo’s Western Region but other regions bought in and, at the end of the day, it helped the nation to develop. So, the opinion that there is no difference between the PDP government and that of the progressive parties is not right.
Another factor analysts are talking about is that the opposition is being driven by the singular objective of driving the PDP out of power... Let us use Edo State as an example. Look at Edo State five years ago and Edo State now. Is it the same? The ideology people talk about is in service delivery. What is government about? Is government not about creating hope for the people? Today, parents can take their children to public schools in Edo State because the atmosphere is conducive for learning and the schools’ environments are now vey civilised.
Are you talking about the counterpart funding between the Federal and state government?
Yes, the counterpart funding you are talking about was in place six, seven years ago and nothing happened. In a lot of states, nothing happened and nothing is happening now. The programme requires a counterpart funding from the state governments and only a government that cares about the welfare of its people makes the counterpart funding available. So, it doesn’t matters where the money comes from. What matters here is that the people are being cared for. How can anyone just sit down and say that all the political parties are the same because of the conventional wisdom? Already, we are doing things that are different and we want to spread them. If Edo State, in five years, can become like this, you must ask what will happen if the people governing the state are those governing at the centre. These are the alternatives we want to present to the Nigerian public. We are not going to take cudgels and drive PDP out of power. What we are going to do is put what we have on the table for Nigerians to see and show them what the PDP has offered them in the last 14 years. If the people prefer us, or the inactivity and the loss of direction in the last 14 years, so be it. We are going to come out with a mission statement that you can call ideology or what you like. The mission statement will address the true aspiration of the Nigerian people.
So, the reason behind the formation of APC is the general election of 2015?
No, the reason behind the formation of APC is to present Nigerians with an alternative platform. Remember that there would be elections across the states even before 2015. So, APC is not actually being bottled for 2015 though common sense dictates that the earlier you start, the better, because soon, we shall start to have individuals from different parties who have ambition to contest elections. Right now, there is nothing like that. This is the time to work and strengthen the party without the stress of ambitions.
How will power be shared between the North and the South. Are you looking for a presidential candidate from the North or South?
Why can’t people talk about the prospects of the APC? Why can’t they look at the fact that we are working ahead of schedule? Why can’t they emphasise the fact that people are now becoming successful in bottling up their personal interests and concentrating on the need to salvage Nigeria? These are the positives I expect people to talk about.
Are you very sure that people are ready to drop their ambitions for the common goal of the party?
Of course, yes, because it has not come up in any meeting that I have attended. Did you read General Muhammadu Buhari? He said he, General Buhari, would not present himself for any office but only if his party insisted on him. However, that is not on the table and it is not an issue today. What is important now is the platform we are constructing. When we finish, I pray we have more than 20 presidential candidates because the more, the better.
By 2015, the South would have produced the president of the country for 13 out of 16 years. Is the APC not inclined to producing a presidential candidate from the north?
Again, that is an issue we are discussing for now. The truth of the matter is that when the time comes, we will look for the best candidate who will lead Nigeria out of the doldrums.
From the North or South?
From anywhere. The point is, the candidate must be marketable, presentable and inspire the Nigerian electorate. However, the fact remains that the issue is not on the table now and it will not be until we finish constructing this new party. Nobody is thinking about that for now because if you don’t have a vehicle, you don’t think of employing a driver. Let us put the horse before the cart.
You spoke about the rot that you want to come and clean. How much rot do we have in the system?
[b]If I can summarise it, I would say that we are a nation that has lost its direction; a nation that inexorably is heading for the cliff. We are a nation that is heading towards anarchy, we are a nation that no longer has standards, and whose citizens cannot be shocked anymore. Nigerians can no longer be shocked by any news because the level of impunity in the country has reached such a height that that I don’t think there is any word in the English dictionary that can suitably describe it. Every day, we move from one disgraceful act to another one. The most shameful thing is that none of these acts has abated. That has become like a permanent cancer that is eating away the Nigerian body politic. All these things are happening in the full glare of about 160 million strong audiences with about 25 to 30 per cent young people who have no jobs. So, if you consider the entire situation, you will agree that we are heading for serious trouble. Today, we are trying to curtail Boko Haram but I pray something like that does not spring up in another part of the country because if it happens, it will be difficult to manage the two. In Nigeria today, one can count what is going right with the fingers but what is not right are too numerous to count. In fact, what is wrong is everything. Power improved temporarily and now we are back to the doldrums. As I am talking to you right now, there is no power here in G.R.A. of Benin City. This place is not just G.R.A., this is the heart of GRA and is only less than 500 metres to the Ring Road and the Government House. So, if there is no light here, you can imagine what is happening in other places. We are experiencing all these things in the face of the humongous amount that has been spent on power in the country. Tell me, how do you want people to believe in governance? How do you want them to have hope?[/b]
So, these are the problems the APC hope to tackle?
We want Nigerians to, once again, be proud of being Nigerians. We want them to wake up and be happy that somebody cares about their welfare and happiness.
Can you describe how it was being a governor about 20 years ago and now?
The level of public morality has degenerated abysmally. In those days, there were still rules and shame. When I recently heard that somebody stole over 20 billion naira, I wondered how he did it. I mean a trillionnaira worth of contract was not awarded. So, how did he do it? Do people just write checks now and move the money from the treasury? I really don’t understand. I read these things everyday and they turn out to be true. In those days, things like that didn’t just happen. There was ethics, morality and shame. All these things have totally disappeared from the polity. Then, we believed that the law would catch up with you if you did something like what they are doing today. These days, the law doesn’t catch up with them. Even if it does, the person is left with enough to live a life of leisure for the rest of his life and two life times. How does that curb corruption? How does it restore ethics into the society? How does it restore standards? So, my time as governor and now are two different worlds, totally different ones without comparisons. I earned N60,000 monthly as governor. I hardly recognised that there was something like security vote.
So there was no security vote then?
There was a bit of it but you didn’t touch it unless there was a serious urgency. You didn’t spend it because it was not meant to be spent. Now, there is a lot of money around. In my time, we had a budget of about N600 million.
Some people are of the opinion that it is high time old politicians like you left the scene for the young ones. Do you agree with that?
This is one of the clichés that I criticise. It is similar to the one I criticised concerning some people saying that there are no differences between the APC and the PDP. Again, it is a wrong cliché. How many people in government today are more than 55 years of age? Only few governors are more than 55. So, you can see that the shift has already occurred. What else do you want? Perhaps these people want youths in their 20s to become governors.
But you still contested an election last year as the vice presidential candidate of the ANPP?
That was because of the force of circumstances. That was one man out of a multitude. Indeed, generational change has occurred in Nigeria. Show me proof that it has not occurred. Show me the old people that are still controlling this country.
So, for people like you, it is bye-bye to political office?
Of course, I’m in what they call departure line. I’m still there because I feel very strongly about the direction the country is going and until God closes my eyes, I will do my best to help change the course of this nation. |
Celebrities › Re: Larry Koldsweat Prefers To Be A Yoruba In Another Life by Gbawe2: 8:30am On Mar 17, 2013 |
Who deleted all the posts and for what reasons? This is ridiculous. Yes some 'heated' talk but no insults as at when I departed last night. OAM4J, what went down and why are my post deleted despite being devoid of insult? What is this place now becoming? Which mod is responsible for this even as I think I know for sure who it is? Seun, let me warn you also to take an interest in the activities of your mods here.
I am not one of those who think you do anything special hosting us here. We make you blog what it is here. Don't ever forget that. You can never ever discuss as some of us do so make sure you respect those who blog to make a blog what it is. Look into this crap and reinstate my posts or show convincingly they were deleted specifically because they broke some rules and not because one of your jobless mods thinks he can bring his beef against certain posters to bear via abusing his power here. |