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Are those of us who earlier said this is in order, given the thorough "dont give a damn" dishonesty of GEJ, not vindicated now? To be honest, I really wonder the nature of people who support GEJ. One dishonest, corrupt and unconscionable action after the other and these same character still support this disgraceful President. Well, Bode George and Igbinedion next. Shino Rambo too plus order of the Niger award. Lawrence Anini too will not be left out. His posthumous award for services to 'emptying pocket' will come. |
To be honest, the whole thing is a storm in a tea cup. Desperate antics from the PDP no doubt but some do not realise that these atavistic antics in politics is becoming counter-productive and reminiscent of a crude era in African politics. The name thing is not worth dissipating energy over. The APC , regardless of the PDP's shenanigans, will be duly registered and will go on to be a very popular Party. |
The Beam: Sir,You make some very good points but many parts of your arguments are speculative at best. No one is telling you "certs and books" make Demuren the best option. The fact is that his academic and professional talent, to cover the holy grail of solution provision that solidifies reputations, is not in doubt and should not be disparaged by any sensible person. I don't know why he was sacked but we cannot just assume it is because he goofed. We are seeing evidence, daily , that this is a President who will move against anyone perceived a threat to his direct or affiliated political interest. You ask yourself what Allison-Madueke has made of our Petroleum sector if not mired it in sleaze and corruption to the extent David Cameron had to publicly ask the GEJ government to account for the trillions received through the sector in recent years with Nigeria having nothing to show for that vast amount. After the latest episode of Allison-Madueke making a fool of Nigeria with her open compromise of the Ribadu Petroleum task force, tell me who is more deserving of a sacking in Nigeria than that Lady. Also, we all remember Azazi being sacked after he claimed the PDP was behind Boko Haram. Those are the sort of observations that tell many this is not a President who hires, fires or retain appointees purely on merit and principles. If some now question his motives for sacking Demuren, then they have solid reasons to do so because analytically intelligent people can only make inference from the consistent behaviour of others. If a well-known unrepentant kleptomaniac, would it be wrong for me to assume you may have stolen the watch you are wearing on your ankle instead of your wrist? |
The Senator is telling the truth but Nigerian politics is currently too monetised and too unprincipled for an impeachment of a President to pass easily. Fact is that GEJ, with so many errors and failures to his name, would have been impeached in all serious nations on Earth. |
No news really. Everyone knows it is war, in all but name, between GEJ and Tukur ,on on side, against Amaechi and Aliyu. |
ibrobell: if u ask me i think the gov has really tried . not that he is perfect but he has performed above average. flood has been a major problem in lagos but of recent with the heavy rainfall, flood has reduced greatly. To me thats a pragmatic approach to situationsGenuine Lagosians, concerned about the State alone and mindful of what obtained in the past, appreciate what you have said completely. That is the bottom line. |
Maxymilliano: Talking of a bandwagon mentality, so I'm now a dishonest person just because I don't see things through the same lens with you? Anyway, there's very little the righteous can do when the foundation is faulty, the PIB is very much available if you care instead of your usual blanket condemnation without taking into cognizance the proffered remedy.You are a dishonest person. I have not concluded that about you frivolously. Rather, you have displayed this with your dishonest utterance. Like I said previously, we all have our bias but decent folks know when to be silent and refrain from supporting or defending what is completely and totally wrong/unacceptable. It is pathetic you falsely and casually attempt to insinuate it is right for the 7th largest producer of crude in the entire world to sell its oil amateurishly through traders when every nation similar to Nigeria is not doing the same thing. That is BS and you know it. Why is it always Nigeria that remains stuck in the dark ages with abominable practices only for us to then also be the only nation to have citizens, like you, willing to speak in defence of such condemnable, regressive and archaic practices extinct and rejected everywhere else? Why can you , even for once, not just admit that certain things are wrong or undesirable even if you support the government of the day? The bottom line is that certain practices unseen elsewhere persist in Nigeria because those practices help perpetuate corruption, lack of accountability and lack of transparency. The right President , ASAP, would abrogate those practices, as his powers allow, if he genuinely wants to move Nigeria forward. Simple. That so many of those retrogressive practice endure under GEJ is proof he is another corrupt and deceptive time-waster rather than the "fresh air" he is hollowly touted as. |
Maxymilliano: Dunno what you meant by 'entire GEJ crew' the fact that people have contrary opinions against yours sometimes shouldn't be a basis for unnecessary tags and name-callings, divergent of opinions on pertinent issues is one of the attributes of democracy, it is unwarrentable to label people just because their opinion differs from yours. But to hazard some response to your post, I like to remind you that we are currently operating a democratic settings and expecting the president to take 'simple action' is just simplistic.The usual dishonesty. Mr. Man, kindly avoid responding to what I write in future. I don't like dishonest folks who dance around and run from pillar to post over very simple issues of decency, morality and honesty. It is like attempting to craft an argument devoted to proving falsely that 2+2 is not 4. We all have our bias but when people are fundamental dishonest as you are, they are best avoided. Look at how you glibly try and insinuate that Nigeria selling its oil through traders is no big deal. Are you for real or just incredibly dishonest and bereft of morals to the extent you cannot see that some things are entirely unacceptable at national level? Why should Nigeria be the only major exporter of crude to adopt a model that facilitates theft and corruption ? When you speak in support of this models, condemned virtually by all, what does this say about you? I don't appreciate anyone who will begin mentioning OBJ or Yar Adua when the current and glaring inactions of the President of the day, that perpetuates and abet avenues of corruption, is under scrutiny. It is very simple even if a dishonest person like you cannot simply call a spade a spade. Practices abetting corruption go on under GEJ, even as he has the power to change the situation in seconds, because our current President is a corrupt individual who is happy enabling corruption. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/10/dirty-deals-in-oil-industry-ribadu-report/ The probe also said Nigeria was the only nation to sell all its crude through international oil traders rather than directly to refineries, adding that such trades were often opaque.http://www.africanoutlookonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3648:fuel-subsidy-nigeria-lost-over-300-million-in-falsified-documents-wikileaks ¶3. (C N/F) On April 6, Femi Otedola, President and CEO of |
adahib: It won't stop amazing me when i see people jumping up to label every write-up aimed at exposing the massive rot in this jonathan's administration as lies. isn't it obvious that this is an administration of thieves chaired by a weakling? one doesn't need to read the numerous articles to appreciate the massive looting that has been going on. for those of you defending jonathan,kindly name one of the subsidy thieves who is currently in jail.fighting corruption is not just about setting up an array of committees whose reports are only scrutinized by other committees and never acted upon.that said,i really do not think any political party at present will do better.look at all the states ruled by other parties,are they in any way better than pdp? i really don't think so.what we need in this country is a leader who has no party affiliations and hence can't be dictated to by such.a leader who is selfless.until then,nigeria and nigerians will keep suffering from the likes of jonathan and his ilk.Thank you. Shameless sycophants, a disgrace to their nation, should show us the real efforts the biggest 419ners in Nigeria (GEJ and Allison-Madueke) have put in place to reduce corruption in the most vital sectors capable of pivotally impacting on Nigeria's ability to make progress as a Nation. Why do we sell oil through traders rather than directly? If a serious and sincere President, GEJ, after Ribadu brought it to public attention, should declare immediately that "this practice stops today by the power vested in me". I.e the retrogressive and corrupt practice of Nigeria disgracefully being the only major oil producer in the entire world to sell its crude through traders. Why can we not directly negotiate with foreign refineries to import refined derivative of crude instead of engaging hundreds of fraudulent marketers in an unwieldy and unneeded process that only deliberately creates avenues for defrauding Nigeria? A sincere Nigerian president, if willing, can change those situations, that are avenues of fraud in reality, today and as we speak. Why entrust our failed refineries into the most corrupt and inept hands possible i.e NNPC? Where is the palliative impact of SURE being felt in Nigeria today? Why is it that the government only reels out rhetoric , and never exemplary or boldly reforming actions, regarding how the governance of Nigeria is unacceptably expensive? Pettily, the Presidency is demanding more for food when Thomas Sankara, aware of the need to sacrifice and lead by example, maintained one car and David Cameron flies with commercial airlines like BA. We can go on all day but the bottom line is that one does not need to be a rocket scientist to note this current government is one, like others before it, deliberately and directly abetting the looting of Nigeria's wealth with its tacit collusions, actions and inaction. |
[quote author=ekt_bear]Patrick Yakowa. BH Governor? wth? Anyway, there just ain't no justice for the little guy in Nigeria [/quote]Indeed .... and it is because Nigeria is still more of a fiefdom rather than anything that remotely resembles a nation. |
blacksta: As somebody earlier stated that The chain of command is as follows " Perm Sec reports to Commissioner who then reports to the Governor "Totally ludicrous. In fact, OBJ , one of the greatest enemy of a prosperous Nigeria and a hater of ordinary Nigerians IMO , should just have picked the 'eleran' at the corner of his road to be President because I doubt even an uneducated meat seller will do worse than what we are seeing now from this vacuous and disgraceful lot. |
sheyguy: Lol . . . . I wonder what she wants to do in that office in the first place. Seems somebody somewhere is trying to play cheap politics.My brother, these crude people are trying to create a Power dynasty via gross abuse of power even OBJ may have balked at. When mediocrity is placed far above its station then expect said mediocrity to attempt replicating the crudeness that made him the beneficiary of what he does not deserve. Of course GEJ's wife does not , by any stretch of the imagination, deserve this appointment but this is all part of an agenda to give her a 'CV' that may predispose her to becoming a Nigerian Hilary Clinton. GEJ is very easy to read and predict. There is absolutely no need for this shameful desperation if not that, predictably and as usual , the dont-give-a-damn President has decided that the end justifies the means to the extent he does not care how ridiculously shameful this incredible act of stupidity and abuse of power must look to the entire world. Whatever next? GEJ's kids made Ministers in waiting ? |
http://www.punchng.com/news/jonathans-wife-appointment-as-perm-sec-shocking-nba/ Jonathan’s wife appointment as perm sec shocking – NBA |
[quote author=Ejiné]Hi Gbawe, Well, God knows I'm not taking sides, but could you be kind enough to explain one thing tho'? If, as you say, the Osun Government is merely contributing to the NASENI exercise, then why does OsunDefender, from what I see on the first page of the thread, label it a full-on O-POWER project? I would really appreciate reading your views regarding this Thanks in advance.[/quote]First, this is not a NASENI exercise. They are involved to provide local and indigenous scientific partnership to efforts of UNIDO at developing hydro power. If the success of this scheme is predicated on counterpart funding from State Governments, why do you think UNIDO would have a problem with individual States running their individual schemes as self-styled franchises? All this bearing in mind that we don't have definitive information which shows conclusively that NASENI's claimed 15kw Ikeji-Ile Ijesha project is precisely, in every aspect, the same as what Osun announces. |
Beaf: So why did you post it? Are you a comedian?Dude, how many times will I tell you to stop following me around? Please focus on the groupies here licking your azz, while you lick that of PDP bigwigs, instead of trying to harrass those not interested in your perversion. Abeg, I am not into men like you. Aregbesola will soon take out a restraining order against you. Many have noticed you are the perv with a b.o.n.er at every public function Aregbe attends. |
salaksmana: But look at your first post now, they never talked about contributing to the FG's project, they even name it O-POWER, stop deceiving this illiterates now.Because it has little to do with the FG and States that can meet the obligation of counterpart funding have the right to get credit for their effort. UNIDO initiated this and, as usual the FG, has left participating States to their own fate. Success or failure is entirely dependent on counterpart fundings. This is why I keep asking you guys to show which State, like Osun, has deemed it expedient to contribute the counterpart fundings to get this going in the first place. If you cannot do that, then you are only admitting that OSun is directly responsible for making a success of what others are failing at. Commendation must at least follow that effort. |
wesley80: ^^^ Buhahahahahah! You don't say. So that's what uncle Aregbe is spending all those dough for? LMAO!Olodo, I would explain the relational energy output inferred if your layman knowledge was even decent to begin with. Osun has payed it counterpart funding required by UNIDO and this was established earlier, conclusively. The energy that will be gained for this, once again, will serve a major axis and only a certified m.o.ron , like you and Beaf, would think that equates to power that cannot serve a 7-bedroom residential house with AC on full blast in every room for 24 hours. The civil engineering work, which would cost N300 million, is the contribution of the state to the project in conjunction with UNIDO.Trying to discredit the financial committment of Osun just highlights your agenda of mischief. Sad that such an agenda is backed only by ignorance. A shame since you used to be more inclined towards knowledge based arguments. Now you are just like Beaf i.e a total airhead. Why are you avoiding the challenge of showing us the many others, like Osun, who have met their counterpart funding obligations? Whether you see it or not, Osun wants this and that is why the State has put its money where its mouth is. Simple. |
salaksmana: No need for long essays now, it's not Aregbe's project period. Imagine the number of people they will deceive with this. Aregbe provide free train transport during festive period, he started telling people he brought back rail transport to State of Osun. Kai kai kai, one thing Oyinlola & Akande will not do-telling lies.My brother, you don't get the point. A Mortgage is not "my project" either but I will be the proud homeowner , with full bragging rights, because I was able to raise a deposit. Others will continue to rent because they don't have the desire, drive or commitment to own a home. |
wesley80: Perhaps you failed to notice the "smallest" plant is what's being built in O - state. A state that raises 300million to partly fund a 15kw plant - the least among a grp of ten should not foool its citizens into thinking its carrying out some huge Aregbe-initiated project!My friend, you are now running from pillar to post. The information on NASENI's website is scant plus you are rather ignorant about power generation and measures of energy output. I warned you about how you will disgrace youself because you are now a mischief-maker and this predisposes you to not doing your research . 15KW literally is 15000 watts. Do you know what that powers? If you answer that then I can indulge you further. Suffice to say Osun is not making this announcement base on getting 15KW of power as you and your olodo co-traveller Beaf thinks. Below is a 15KW portable generator and only a m.or.on would think this is what Osun is making all this noise about. Shame on you and the ignorance you display here. What a tangled web we weave when at first we seek to decieve. Better contact NASENI so that they can quantify energy output for you properly. http://www.peakpowertools.com/Portable-Generator-Guardian-15-kW-Electric-Start-p/ggn4582.htm https://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/cnk2c.xocd9/v/vspfiles/photos/GGN4582-2T.jpg?1314774124 Portable Generator Guardian 15 kW Electric Generator |
wesley80: Oh plssssssssssss! Have some class Gbawe will you? What's this drivel? Didn't you read the piece and see the number of states that were "selected" for the project? Sometimes the honourable thing to do is bury your head in shame. To think you knew all of these but still preferred to paint this as an O - state initiative, pathetic!Stop being an airhead. How many projects have died a painful death in a nation where lack of political will means many projects are not worth the paper they are written on? Why don't you show, here and now which States have provided their counterpart fundings and kick-started these projects? Also, show how these States have announced the project publicly. In so far as States have to provide substantial counterpart fundings, without which nothing will go ahead, you should show some class to agree that States can and must indeed take credit for this because their financial contribution is paramount and pivotal. The FG is not helping them and neither is NASENI, more a watchdog, so what is your point? That a State that raises the money to implement a hydropower project should not claim credit for a scheme that would not exist without genuine political will and counterpart funding? |
wesley80: GBAWE, is this the same project Aregbesola is getting praise to the high heavens for? Is NASENI now an O-state Agency?Can you not see what is terribly obvious? Even if this involves NASENI, how on earth can you discountenance the contribution of Osun that is directly needed for this to become reality? Pointless going back and forth with you because you have missed something very obvious. While UNIDO awaits Nigeria's Counterpart FundingDevelopment agencies generally become active partners when counterpart funding, a measure of committment, is released. If Osun proactively supplies counterpart funding, why should it not lay claim to making the scheme succeed considering similar planned hydropower project elsewhere will never amount to anything, beyond being potential projects, without the financial committment of States? Also, why can Osun not call this O-power when , via meeting its counterpart funding, it has effectively secured it own 'franchise'? Read properly and you will see that NASENI was invited to perhaps provide technical project checks-and-balances. NASENI has not initiated anything nor has the FG. The onus is still on States to partner with UNIDO to make hydro projects work . http://naseni.org/programme/energy/shp.html in the late 2007, UNIDO called NASENI to a Stakeholders Meeting on the Local Manufacturing of Small Hydro Power Equipment in the African region. NASENI has been selected as the Host Agency and the Representative of the Nigerian Government on the Project. While UNIDO awaits Nigeria's Counterpart Funding, Crossflow Turbine has been selected for the first production involving Nigerian engineers and using local technology. |
[quote author=ekt_bear]If Aregbesola were a wise man, rather than viewing any electricity produced from this project as amala to hand out for free to everyone, he should use it to power factories and thus create jobs. Osun + Ekiti population is probably ~6-7 million. That is a pretty damn good market for anybody manufacturing, if he has access to cheap electricity. Not even to mention that whatever you manufacture can of course be distributed elsewhere in Nigeria.[/quote]That, obviously, is the plan and this is why he is getting assistance from UNIDO. Those folks help the most when they think it is the "teach a man to fish" principle at work. Charity, for the sake of it, is dying in a burdened world. |
[quote author=ekt_bear]So...question. How much electricity is this dam expected to generate? And who do they plan to sell the electricity to? And for how much? Will an investor be able to negotiate directly with Osun state for the electricity, or will it have to deal with the FG? My own town is very close to Ijesha axis. I would love to start a factory there and employ my people... Hrm. It would be very good if this was for real. But so many details lacking in this article..[/quote]Very good. This will probably serve a catchment area primarily to aid commerce but I think residents will benefit also if I were to hazard a guess based on current power Osun gets from the grid and the notion of hydropower serving effectively one axis alone. Of course if you situate your intended business in the catchment area then you should benefit from available constant electricity. Indeed you will be courted as a priority case. There may be interventional help available to assist you with land and other issues since you will be creating employment and wealth. My brother, trust me, it is not that difficult. If the Lebanese, Indians and others come to engage our Government directly and get what they want, there is no excuse for us not to get involved in an effort to develop our Nation. |
[quote author=Kaboom!]So with N300Million such good projects could be carried out? Yet some of these politicians see this amount as peanuts to be spent of their girlfriends and frivolous lifestyles. That's why they steal $billions like child's play.[/quote] yinchar: Really i dont know why some people are just simply antagonist, this is a good project with N300million compared to N7.5Billion for the clearing of rocks at Asaba by Uduaghan....Fellows, this is the culmination of the work of the likes of Beaf on NL. they have hatefully hounded Aregbesola , with an agenda of lies, to the extent that Nairalanders who don't bother to read have easily swallowed the lies and transfered hatred. Development agencies are generally forthcoming when dealing with those they deem serious. It is not today the World bank, French development agency et al have been pledging technical and financial support for Aregbesola and Osun. Indeed development agencies partner with a lot of African nations on infrastructural projects. We just don't see too many of these partnership in Nigeria because of the unspoken truth about many of our leaders i.e they are crooks who will eat every last Kobo given to them. Folks, for example, can google George bush highway Accra. The road is absolutely superb and now very strategic and important for Accra because it traverses the city. It was built with a grant contributed to the millenium development fund of Ghana. The supplying nation is obvious because it is called George Bush Highway. |
Beaf:What a dullard. Extremely sad to see what you have now become. You don't even make any attempt to inspect what folks are saying anymore in your paranoid delusions that leads you to automatically make an enemy of anyone who criticises your totally clueless messiah now leading Nigeria towards the abyss. By 2015, and according to the pathetic projection and target of Okonjo Iweala, FG recurrent expenditure will be 70% i.e 4% down from 74% What the hell is that in the most expensive and unproductively bloated democracy on earth? Yet they want to remove fuel subsidy ? Talk about senseless 'Cart before the Horse' leadership.Read below to note why the likes of Oshiomhole have earned the right to criticise GEJ even as your attack dog mentality only predisposes you to seeing him as a "lazy governor angling for more oil money". "When I took over in Edo State, the recurrent was like 70 per cent and capital 30 per cent. Even with the new minimum wage, our recurrent is 40 per cent while capital is 60 per cent. |
oyb:My brother, his two-faced nature, duplicitous tongue and flip-flopping style is well known to the entire forum. The thing is that Beaf is a simpleton. His modus operandi is to attack anyone that dare criticises his paymaster (GEJ) never mind that he ostensibly held those folks in high esteem yesterday. |
http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=58096:face-to-face-with-gov-amosun-&catid=77:letters&Itemid=613 Face to face with Gov Amosun |
Beaf:Suwegbe . better stick with your science thingymijigg because you are , aside being a scoundrel, thoroughly clueless and hopeless . A totally irredeemable basket case. Same goes for your co-travellers like Johndoe, PointB et al. You have become such a clown that you cannot even note that you are talking about yourself below: it is shameless people like you that go about propping all sorts of scarecrows with spurious arguments,You "propped up" and hyped the greatest Scarecrow of them all , with an undoubted career of abject mediocrity (GEJ), yet you have the nerve to take on a leader (Aregbesola) with a tangible record in public office. Self delusion mixed with 'craze' na dangerous combo !! |
Beaf:Please save your pity for folks in your neck of the woods. They need it far more than a people who are happy with their Governor so far. Aregbesola enjoys the 100% backing of his people. That is more than can be said for most Governors . The good folks of Osun don't need you taking painkillers for imaginary pain conjured , on their behalf, in the recesses of your mischief addled brain . Rather, pay more attention to your corner of Nigeria and the many indolent Governors doing nada apart from shoving cocaine up their nose and employing their murder suspect buddies to influential office. https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-737365.0.html |
PointB:You should show us these governors and the Trail they are "blazing" . The bias from some of you is as ugly as Medusa and toxic like arsenic !!! Below , Uduaghan is employing a suspected murderer to a Government job while, in contrast, Amosun, Aregbesola and Ajimobi have all received commendation for the calibre of folks they have employed to serve their States !!!!! Other Nigerian Governors are doing the same as Uduaghan and worse . We are certainly not seeing "most Governors , bar Amaechi and Chime, blazing any trail" as you lie they do to make room for your deceitful argument. We wont see you on the thread below , concerning "trail blazer" Uduaghan , yet ,like white on rice, you are automatically in any thread where Amosun, Ajimobi or Aregbesola so much as scratch their forehead in public. Your contribution will always be negative as well !!! Please show us other Governors "blazing" the trail enough to make Aregbesola , 9 months in office, worthy of the unholy focus of you and your co-travellers . Show us the "trail blazing" wonders Peter Obi, Uduaghan, Theodore Orji, Silva, Liyel Imoke, Elechi et al are performing . How some of you can come here to lie just to show up the SW Governors is simply beyond me !!! You get on the back of Amosun, Ajimobi and co to the extent that Non-Nigerians reading this forum can be forgiven for thinking these guys are the only Governors in Nigeria !!! One would think , from how you and your buddies talk, that Aregbesola, Amosun and Ajimobi are leading their State far worse than other Governors from other regions are doing . Alas , this is not the reality or the truth is it ? https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-737365.0.html |
[/quote]Indeed .... and it is because Nigeria is still more of a fiefdom rather than anything that remotely resembles a nation.

