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kambo: scientifc thinking is from imperfect man. And man adjusts as he dscovers the error in his ways.
God is perfect so he doesnt need to improve. The bible is a case in point,it never needs editing-except to update the language (you instead of thou etc)

Kambo,you are a lost case I swear!

Bible that is filled with stories of a jealous,vindictive and genocidal god is perfect? You would have been a perfect Boko haram foot soldier,I'm just glad you born were into christianity and not Islam

kambo: baby conclusions.
First, in a chaotic process you wudnt have enuff tranquility to support life,not to talk of significant tranquility to support buildg of cities , and continuations of generations. But you hav that on earth.
In a random process life wud flourish equally on other planets but thts not d case. There's only life on earth.
The so called disasters you mention happen with such infrequency tht theyre headline news showing tht these are anomalies and not features of chaotic process. If u say life is random and chaotic , why does the choas favor stability. Randomness shouldnt b partial or predictable.

There is life on earth because the factors on earth support life. Not the other way round! Religious mind!!!

The disasters that make the news are d ones that take a high human toll!these disasters occur regularly from tornados,to volcanic eruption,land slides,tremors and earthquake! Watch NatGeo often and reduce the time you waste on TBN! Read books!

Natural disasters are natural not anomalies!

kambo: neither do cuttg edge scientists of today. Showg man is still largely ignorant yet if in physcal matters like how man came about the scientifc camps are torn , how much more unqualified are they to make conclusve statements about the existence of God.

Science is humble and doesn't claim to know the end from the beginning.

Religion on the other concludes a god did it without even thinking!

Science adjusts with new findings while religion sticks to its ignorant ways!

kambo: evolution isnt a truth neither is it basic.it is a theory because it is built on conjecture. Scientist call it the "theory of evolution". And it is widely disputed even within d scientifc community.

The "church" acting outside the boundaries of scripture is nothg but a pawn for destruction.
The religious leaders killed Jesus too.
Even though if they had searched the scriptures they'd hav seen that Jesus really was the messaiah.
If the religious mafia of Galileo's day had searched d scripture they'd hav seen d verse in psalms that says the earth is roundish.
The bible admonishes christians to "think", "study", "be diligent",
promises that a man who is diligent in his labour will stand before prominent men. Does this sound like advocating illiteracy?
Jesus disciples included educated men like luke,a physician, matthew a tax collector.
Paul, was an erudite scholar, do his epistles read like unintelligent works?

Galileo didn't argue about the earth being spherical,the argument was that the sun and not the earth is the centre of the solar system. I'll love to see the solar system in the bible!

Evolution is widely accepted,far above creation stories in the scientific community! Google is your friend

kambo: only a fool will look at a well designed machine and conclude it came about from a random chaotic process.

With all the volcanic erruptions,Tsunamis ,earthquakes and other natural disasters. You call this earth well designed!

Its either your god is a horrible disaster or the earth wasn't designed!

And if you accept one god who created that god?
If you claim that god is self existent,why can't the universe be too?

kambo: wat dyu know about waste?
God is a God of abundance. When rabbits give birth ,they born in litters, when trees fruit,from a single seed the fruits emerge in abundance, after Peter hosted Jesus in his boat , He was rewarded with abundance of wat he'd been toiling all night for-fish,
when weeds grow they grow in abundance. You can tell from d design of d planets that God loves variety. Theyre planets with differing properties. God is a lavish God but not wasteful.

This rebuttal why a god supposedly made the earth for you?

rationalmind: Generalshepherd is doing a great job. Kudos brova

May the Flying Spaghetti Monster bless you my brother...

Brymo: i ain't judgingin,but wen u get to hell expect hell. After ur signature.

Honey now think of your just god, if I live a noble life,helping humans and die he will send me to hell! But will forgive an armed robber and a rapist that asks for forgiveness the last minute?

As for me I am not scared of yahweh, I grew out of that fear about a year ago and I'm still fine.

What if you are wrong and Allah is the true and only god? We'll be in hell together!

I'll sure love to burn in hell with you,cos looking into your eyes for eternity will make hell more valuable than heaven for me!

Gosh! You are beautiful

Mckayzee: Then yahweh is the only God you dismiss and you probably believe other gods exist..if one is gonna be an atheist, be an atheist for real, but just hating and trying to disprove yahweh aint so cool..

I dismiss all gods

benardtotti: my brother stop going round in circles, that's the problem with you african atheists, so dull,running from pillar to post! Lol! First I responded to a post saying christianity encourages ignorance, when I countered that warped logic, you come here and twist things round indirectly acknowledging that all; atheist,muslims,xtians contributed to knowledge, then in your haste,you say xtian scientists were first scientist before proclaiming xtianity, you forget that if indeed according to your conclusion that those scientists who were first scientists/philosophers ,later declared for xtianity,doesn't that show that they must have seen something in xtianity to want to accept it? By the way,like I said earlier, you need to really do a more balanced research on christian knowledge it will do you good so you don't embarass yourself in public,on a lighter note! I believe you grew up in nigeria? Please refresh my memory,the modern system of education in nigeria was introduced by?

Well I've always said it that an Atheist that says all Christians are dumb is as foolish and dumb as a Christian that say all atheists are fools!

In as much as most christians are dumb sheeples,there are very intelligent christians! In this forum there is Insquor,Davidylan, Mr. Annoy e.t.c

Also if you frequent religious section,you would know I have never denied the role christians played in introducing education to Africa not just Nigeria! I am myself grew up in a very christian home and studied in an Anglican secondary school!


But the fact remains that christianity denies basic truths like evolution! The christian church killed Galileo for saying the Sun is the centre of the solar system! It takes a lot of dumbing down of intellect for intelligent christians to believe in god

The bible is full of scientific inaccuracies,logical half truths and outright foolish claims! I started doubting the bible from the age of 10 when I learnt about dinosaurs and found out that the bible forgot such historic animals!

Now I am free!!!

Omooba77: Psalm 14;Psalm 53

Only a fool believes a donkey can talk!
Only a fool believes you can walk on water without any form of device for bouyancy and stay afloat

Only a fool will justify the killing of innocent kids in the name of religion!

Only a fool says in his heart that a Jewish man (Adam) and a jewish woman (Eve) are the parents of humanity! What of inbreeding? How did they avoid that? Who did cain marry?

Only a fool would believe anything anybody told him just because he added 'Thus saith the Lord'

Only a fool would believe you can sit down and pray for Nigeria to be better,instead of trying to be the change!

Only a fool will live his call a Jewish local deity Yahweh his god and bear Jewish and English names! Slave mentality

vislabraye: If demons don't exists, may be God doesn't exist to you. I wonder how blind anyone can be.
If you have ever encountered a miracle or a supernatural event, you will know.

Have you experienced a miracle? Why not share ?

eaglek: Being an atheist is nothing to be proud about! Those who deny the existence of God are not wise, to put it mildly. They might as well deny the very air they breath! The surest protection from evil in all its ramifications is to constantly dwell in the Light of God! This can be achieved by recognizing the laws of God in creation and obeying them, and maintaining an unbroken commitment to doing good.

I am an ATHEIST! And I wear it like a badge proudly!

xxxtedyxxx: Mhen..u r really confused. U need help as fast as possible.

Uncle Teddy I have so much respect for you from your thread in improving the dating game!

Just apply that reasoning and analytical strengths you have in thinking crtitically about god and evidence for god!

Let me know how it goes!

eaglek: Being an atheist is nothing to be proud about! Those who deny the existence of God are not wise, to put it mildly. They might as well deny the very air they breath! The surest protection from evil in all its ramifications is to constantly dwell in the Light of God! This can be achieved by recognizing the laws of God in creation and obeying them, and maintaining an unbroken commitment to doing good.

There are over 2800 different gods world over,which god are you talking about?

By the way the air I breathe can be measure and analysed with proven methods that work universally!

superior1: That is not the point. The questions is do thoughts exist?, have you seen one?

Every time you
think of something you create a electrical signal in the
brain, this can be measured and hence evidence that you are thinking!

It can't measure you actually thought but it evidence for brain activities!

Any evidence for god yet,or do you plan on quoting the bible?

benardtotti: sorry to disapoint you but christianity actually breeds knowledge,the problem with you so called african atheist is that you think you know too much,yet what you know is so little, if you guys do your homework very well you will know that modern day education was bred via christianity, the problem with african christianity culture is the same problem with every other aspect of african culture/lifestyle; one man wants to be at the top,while others look up to him.

This is horribly false, all humanity contributed their quota to modern science both atheist,pagan and christian scientists!

But one thing is sure the christian scientist,is a first a scientist before proclaiming christianity!

If Isaac Newton didn't place rational reasoning first, I wonder why he'll investigate the laws of motion since Thomas Aquinas claimed that god is the unmovable mover!

Tupacx: In my option, neither Atheists nor those that believe in God are completely right. The answer lies between

My reason bn; one believe there is God, the other believe there's no God.
Both views are based on beliv. There's no certainty in the two views.
None of the two parties can tangibly prove that God exist or that God does not exist.

There so many reasons for one to believe there's God and,
There are some reasons that will make you doubt the existence of God.

Atheism is dismissing belief in gods for lack of evidence and not proving gods don't exist!

We are all atheists just that I believe in one less god than you do!

As you dismiss Amadioha,Shiva, Ogun,Sango,Allah that is how I dismiss Yahweh!!

Omooba77: You are right, the Devil make them believe he doesn't exist and he wrecks havoc at will, Roman 1:28-31

Please give me just one evidence for god,just one.

I'll love to quote 'As for me and my family we will serve the Lord again', all I need is one evidence for him

Lordlexyy: Don't be myopic in your choosen believe. We have heard of plenty cases of people who have had encounter with spirits, what do you make of that? I have had the privilege of seeing an angel in my bed room, what do you call that, hallucination? Wake up. It will be foolish of you to talk about what you know nothing about. Listen, open your mind and learn, perhaps, God will grant you understanding.

So your evidence for spirits are individual accounts? The case I've heard all described and defined these spirits,angels and god differently! Making it highly subjective!

I also saw angels the first time I drank alomo bitters,you experience is no proof

godjohnson: This is really simple logic, i was expectin sumone to say it bt since no one has i jst go on, the main work of a demon is to win more souls for the devil. Since atheists don't believe in Gods' existance automatically they are worshippers of the devil. So of what use is fighting a member of your army(since u guyz are on the same side of the divide), it doesn't make sense ryt?, but once such a person repents and becomes a christain that is when they strike and try to pull such a person back to the world(atheism).
I hope this answers ur question, God bless u

How do you know the devil's main work? Have you had a conversation with him? The bible said so,pathetic!!

World Greatest1: I wonder how this trash made front page. It is obvious that the Op is confused. @Op, I thought u claim not to believe in God let alone demons. How come u came to the conclusion that demons are afraid of atheists? I can see how knowledgeable and reasonable you are.

Why should I argue or prove anything to u? But, let me quickly tell you this because I can see that you are full of knowledge. Everything in this world came about by someone. Ur phone was made by someone so is the world. If u can point the maker of ur phone, how about the creator of this world? Or are u one of those who believe the world came through some random processes.

Little wonder, the bible says a fool thinks in his heart that there is no God.

If the world was created by god then he is wasteful,because we have 8other planets in our solar system that is uninhabited! Now our solar system is like a grain of sand in the milky way,where millions of planets and Suns exist!

The earth is 90% water,and uninhabitable, again why would a perfect god be that wasteful?

Also have you heard of earthquakes and Tsunami's,why would a perfect god design a system riddled with so many faults and dangerous elements?

Ponder on these before you argue for intteligent design

superior1: How do you know it is possibe for a man to have a "thought", have you seen "thought or thinking or reasoning" before?

So you agree with me that thought and reasoning which are intangible and subjective are the same with god,demons,heaven and hell?

akpomeme: The Holy Spirit exist. God exist... The supernatural world is real. The only problem with how contact with the supernatural world is ability to tell what powers are of God and otherwise.

Do you have any evidence for the above? Or are they real because you say so?

IamaChosen: Psalm 14:1 - The fool has said in his heart,There is no God.They are corrupt,they have done abominable works,there is none that doeth good.

http://www.youtube.com/user/IamaChosen1/videos

A fool believes in a god without a shred of evidence

superior1: A house that divide against itself shall not stand.....

You cant be an Athiest unless you have demons living in you, why should demons make their presence known or trouble their blind host when he already has a ticket to hell?

You only fight or trouble to gain or subdue your enemies and not friends, na common sense nah

Okay Superior,how can one recognize a demon? Have you seen one before?

Brymo: dis person,get sense xo?

You are too pretty to allow your mind to be clouded by emotions! Do you have any evidence for demons? Have you seen them before? How do you know demons are in operation?

Honey,liberate your mind. Do not let the god delusion to kee you down!

When you have a rational mind,nothing scares you.

If a cat mews at night? You call animal services,if you dey naija you lay otapiapia for the cat simple case solved!

If a plate crashes in your kitchen at night? You simply go clean it up and stack your dishes carefully next time!

If rats make awkward sounds at night in your home? You leave out your old auntie in the village and apply otapiapia as in number 1

If your Samsung galaxy soils,you take it to a qualified technician not claiming like many nairalanders than god is now a phone reairer!

Demons exist only in your head,same goes with god and the holyspirit

When you take out spirituality, you enjoy life and your loved ones,appreciating live knowing you could loose it all in a matter of seconds! No god needed

P:S; its funny how I still hear the still small voice in my head when I want to do wrong! Its either the Holyspirit lives in me an atheist or the human conscience is inherently a part of us. No god needed

Stanbic bank is the most foolish bank in Nigeria, I was shell shocked at rhe amount they pay their CEO yet their services are so horrible. Why won't it be when they pay contract staff who are 80% of their workforce 25k monthly?

Rubbish bank Jumia and Quickteller won't miss them!

xcesswag: yes boss, dat was wat i did, i acted lyk it was routine,....chatted her up tho, she was lyk wen are u cming bk on whatsapp? Guess she missed my chat

You are the right track hot and cold! Next time you see her play with her,tease her and lay on kiss on her but don't touch her in a sexual way yet.

The kiss will tell you if you are wasting your time,from there things will be clearer as per moving on or staying with her

ifex370: dnt kill urself dude...















buh u try sha... js hope u dint forget to show her ow much u appreciate d kal... tel her she shld do so much often... if not..... u don bleep up... big time

Wrong move,act the way you'll act for everyother phone call.

emmyskies: goddess abi?? No wonder they are making progress as such. The devil is truely the ruler of this world. Big names, big countries, fame and so on. Brethrens, forget the vanities in this world. Turn to GOD, so we can together inherit our portion in GOD'S kingdom prepared for us. Righteousness and holiness in christ will take us there. JESUS CHRIST is the saviour. GOD bless you all.

This is exactly why we are where we are! Everything is demonised,be there waiting for second coming! Nigeria will never progress with this our god delusion