GeneralShepherd:

Science is humble and doesn't claim to know the end from the beginning.

Religion on the other concludes a god did it without even thinking!

Science adjusts with new findings while religion sticks to its ignorant ways!

kambo:

baby conclusions.
First, in a chaotic process you wudnt have enuff tranquility to support life,not to talk of significant tranquility to support buildg of cities , and continuations of generations. But you hav that on earth.
In a random process life wud flourish equally on other planets but thts not d case. There's only life on earth.
The so called disasters you mention happen with such infrequency tht theyre headline news showing tht these are anomalies and not features of chaotic process. If u say life is random and chaotic , why does the choas favor stability. Randomness shouldnt b partial or predictable.

GeneralShepherd: When you have a rational mind,nothing scares you.

If a cat mews at night? You call animal services,if you dey naija you lay otapiapia for the cat simple case solved!

If a plate crashes in your kitchen at night? You simply go clean it up and stack your dishes carefully next time!

If rats make awkward sounds at night in your home? You leave out your old auntie in the village and apply otapiapia as in number 1

If your Samsung galaxy soils,you take it to a qualified technician not claiming like many nairalanders than god is now a phone reairer!

Demons exist only in your head,same goes with god and the holyspirit

When you take out spirituality, you enjoy life and your loved ones,appreciating live knowing you could loose it all in a matter of seconds! No god needed

P:S; its funny how I still hear the still small voice in my head when I want to do wrong! Its either the Holyspirit lives in me an atheist or the human conscience is inherently a part of us. No god needed

Hero10001:
Go steal for Akinmorin, Oyo State. If Thunder nor go fire you.
Come lie untop Ogun, for Abeokuta, or come frack married woman for egba if Magun nor go kill you.
Agemo for Ijebu nor be play oo


*in Dagrin's voice*
God dey, Satan even dey, if you wan chop bread, na then you go know say oven dey..

kambo:

scientifc thinking is from imperfect man. And man adjusts as he dscovers the error in his ways.
God is perfect so he doesnt need to improve. The bible is a case in point,it never needs editing-except to update the language (you instead of thou etc)

GeneralShepherd:

Every time you
think of something you create a electrical signal in the
brain, this can be measured and hence evidence that you are thinking!

It can't measure you actually thought but it evidence for brain activities!

Any evidence for god yet,or do you plan on quoting the bible?

aManFromMars: God, demons and Satan love to breed in gullible minds.

You stop to believe in God and he moves out with his faithful servant Lucifer, JesUs,Gabriel and friends.

When bad things happen to us, we know the solution will not come by swimming miracle water or sowing seed faith offerings. When we go broke, we check our spending habits not blame it on some mythical devourers that are God's EFCC for tithe defrauders. When bad things happen to us, we understand that it is a cycle of life not punishment from some jobless omnipotent being.


DEMONS are afraid of reason and knowledge.

kambo:

scientifc thinking is from imperfect man. And man adjusts as he dscovers the error in his ways.
God is perfect so he doesnt need to improve. The bible is a case in point,it never needs editing-except to update the language (you instead of thou etc)

plaetton:
I beg your pardon? God does not need to improve? But the bible shows him doing exactly that.
He gets angry, commits genocide and the repents of his anger.
In ot, he loves the burnt sacrifice of goats, sheep and ram ,and in the Mr he settles for the human blood of Jesus, his supposed son, who incidentally is also himself.

GeneralShepherd:

Kambo,you are a lost case I swear!

Bible that is filled with stories of a jealous,vindictive and genocidal god is perfect? You would have been a perfect Boko haram foot soldier,I'm just glad you born were into christianity and not Islam

plaetton:
I beg your pardon? God does not need to improve? But the bible shows him doing exactly that.
He gets angry, commits genocide and the repents of his anger.
In ot, he loves the burnt sacrifice of goats, sheep and ram ,and in the NT he settles for the human blood of Jesus, his supposed son, who incidentally is also himself.

tr3y: We are all victims of whatever we believe in
I sometimes wonder if the bible was just a work of a writer like Da Vinci
People do look up to the sky and say God is above but spacecraft have left this planet and there is no sign of any supernatural being living up there
There are things that shows God and Demons don't exist and at the same time there are proves they might do exist. I'm not an atheist neither am I a fanatics but the ultimate things is the mind is a great tool.

BosColeone:

You seem to have all d answers, i am interested in knowing what u think about creation, we live in a wonderful world, sometimes I like all around in wonder, kindly tell me how u believe all this came into existence.

O.T.I.S:


its always pathetic that people look up to the sky and believe someone is sitting in a white chair there, indeed the idea of a god/gods would be meaningless if there are no humans here.

plaetton:

Excellent point.
And that kinda reminds me, I wonder if Mars....

BosColeone: Look around you, isn't it awesome? I don't know about u, but everything I see around me fills me with wonder, even every human behavior, nature generally awes me, oblige me please, how did something dis beautiful come about?
Take for example the human body, the eyes, the nose, the mouth, the teeth, the fingers, all to me seem perfect, placed where they should be, how come? Help me understand, u seem to know more than I do.

plaetton:
I beg your pardon? God does not need to improve? But the bible shows him doing exactly that.
He gets angry, commits genocide and the repents of his anger.
In ot, he loves the burnt sacrifice of goats, sheep and ram ,and in the NT he settles for the human blood of Jesus, his supposed son, who incidentally is also himself.

aManFromMars:
We don't.

BosColeone: Look around you, isn't it awesome? I don't know about u, but everything I see around me fills me with wonder, even every human behavior, nature generally awes me, oblige me please, how did something dis beautiful come about?
Take for example the human body, the eyes, the nose, the mouth, the teeth, the fingers, all to me seem perfect, placed where they should be, how come? Help me understand, u seem to know more than I do.

kambo:

Two you'll find out tht God in the OT and God in the NT are different.

Busolafolarin: Hmmm......bravo to all the well constructed and seemly sensible intellectual arguments. But time will tell wether God is real, or wether demons, angels or spirit world is a mere fanthom of imagination. You know the word of the cross is foolish to those who are perishing.

Argument doesn't solve anything. It'll rather create more folly. And God is not even interested in proving any point to you. So you have a choice to believe or reject God's reality.

But get it clear that demons don't have respect for anybody. They only fear and quake at name of Jesus. And only those who believe and function in that name can rule over them.

I'm not forcing it into your throat.but the whole world need to realize that we all need Jesus. And thank God you have a choice.

Secularist: It is refreshing to see that there are alot of atheist in the house. Some how we have been able to break the cycle and reason enough to question and rationalize, something several billions of people have refused or are simply too indoctrinated to do.

Becoming an atheist is like waking up to realize all around you are people sleep walking permanently.

Proud atheist here!

And for all you religious folks out there please remember, this platform was created by an atheist, it just might be "demonic" Hehehehehe!

Religious people are like children a simple Boo! and they run for the hills. LMAO!

Busolafolarin: Hmmm......bravo to all the well constructed and seemly sensible intellectual arguments. But time will tell wether God is real, or wether demons, angels or spirit world is a mere fanthom of imagination. You know the word of the cross is foolish to those who are perishing.

Argument doesn't solve anything. It'll rather create more folly. And God is not even interested in proving any point to you. So you have a choice to believe or reject God's reality.

But get it clear that demons don't have respect for anybody. They only fear and quake at name of Jesus. And only those who believe and function in that name can rule over them.

I'm not forcing it into your throat.but the whole world need to realize that we all need Jesus. And thank God you have a choice.

ogaju007:

Yes indeed, it's beautiful but have you spent time to study and research how they came about? I guess not. A typical myopic mind believes there's a mystery behind what confuses him/her. To an illetrate, starting up a car engine is probably a miracle. I think that says it all.

kambo:
God's perfect plan for man was thwarted. Thru sin came death, disease, natural disasters,i.e perversion of nature.
The only antidote is destruction both of the agency (the sinner and the matter). If you leave the agent, the matter will spread bringing death and destruction in its wake.

In the ot, sin was covered with the blood of animals pointg to the eternal plan wen God wud provide a final solution thru the blood of a perfect person,Jesus, the blood od animals could never remove the matter just cover it.
But after Jesus death, the solution bcame complete, now his blood not only cleanses like acid it consumes and obliterates the sin making the sinner completely clean as if he has never sinned.
All these are spiritual laws and processes not improvements. God had already planned tht Jesus wud die to save man in the event man sinned long before the first man was created!
Where does sin stay? On the heart (i.e the spirit man) - its as real as dirt but its spiritual.
For more information read the book of romans chpts 1- 10.
You all (atheists) lack the perspective or understandg to judge God but one day it will b as broad as daylight tht He was just and right.but by then it will b too late for you all.
First,with all your wisdom you all are still in your sins . You reject his anti dote and He will never allow sin into his kingdom.
You are a spirit being so is God quit lookg for him under a microscope.

patrickmuf: All those saying demons, Satan etc do you have proof of their existence? if no, then the argument is as good as done

ogaju007: Can I just add that there's nothing you can say to change a believer's (brainwashed) mind. I also find it amazing that Africans believe in a story written by people that detest them. Over 6000 kilometers away. Only if people can stop for a second and just THINK but hey, this is too much to ask. They waste precious time casting out demons and speaking jiberish while their counterpart that sold them the story are in the Laboratory developing the latest stuff to sell to the so called beleivers. Yet we wonder why we are not progressing as a continent.