₦airaland Forum

popizaino:
I watch citizen tv too as well and I can't see any difference in their accent with that of kansime.

Me too buh i love it tho.
I find it interesting listening to different African accents.

MtuMsuper:
Kansiime is from western Uganda from bakiga people. That is their normal,trademark accent. In Kenya, people tend to form humour around accents and the one from western Uganda is very hilarious to the Kenyan ear, so they imported her along with her jokes for tv. If you ever travel to Uganda, you will hear that accent alot. Even in Uganda, there are many accents. As an African, you should know accents and tribal origin are like 5 and 6!

Oh I like Kansime. She is funny .
Many Nigerians think she is Kenyan. Actually, most Nigerians may not be able to tell East africans apart, except the horners.
I also think or see Kenyans n Ugandans to have the same or similar accents.

68816419:
we all know who owns cape town, a city were blacks r looked with suspicious lol

Jayceon:
The same way igbos are looked with suspicions in Lagos? Huahaha

Chai!!

Pls guys, let's stop this. There's no need for it

CocoMilian:
While our "giant" 1$ =314.8 naira.

Mhh will they blame on the population too.

U seem to enjoy the comparisons n harsh wordings with the guys. I'm sorry buh i think it's very unladylike if u ask me. Women should be promoters of peace n love

Just30:
you identify a Nigerian, when he start speaking
The pronunciation of most consonant are wrong

Whoosh. I really find this argument about which black africans speak better English language as absurd. I wish all black Africans had a unifying African language to boast of.

Shaytun:
EAC.

Wow, this is great. Never knew Eko atlantic city has gone this far. In how many years time do you think it will be completed?

Isahalbash:
Oya examples before u see Gobe...

Holly there have been numerous of such threads on nairaland, u can check em out, cos i don't think i can list them all.

https://www.nairaland.com/3367002/origin-common-nigerian-pidgin-words

Had a hard time finding some of these threads.
Maybe yorubas n Igbos here can help us out

As for yoruba, i think Abi, Shebi, Ashawo, Oya, gbedu, aso-ebi, iyawo, olosho, Omoge n many more are all pidgin words of yoruba origin
While Igbo i think, Oga, Akamu, Oyibo, Una, Obodo, n many more i cnt recall.

68816419:
sincerely speaking ,Nairobi have few nice places but most of these "nice " places are mostly dominated by Indians and whites fellas, Nairobi CBD have this advantage of it location, the location which is very close to the airport gives a good impression of the city and even the country at large,imagine having an airport at VI,IKoyi or even Lekki.
while I was at Nairobi , I stayed at a place called Karen ("posh place "where literally all the politicians, and whites stays) this place was provided by the company i worked with,and this was based on the contract agreement signed,the agreement was to be provided with a safe and conducive areas, this so called"posh reserved" area not only have bad roads but does not by any means qualify to be rated above an average places in Abuja and Lagos,also, prior to leaving for kenya I had a very good impression of a nice "black African city" ,but I was wrong, my first disappointment came when I realised that an average black Kenyan does not see that the economy of the nation ain't longer in their hands rather in the hand of few Indians, Somalis and white people, best estates, supermarkets,shops,restaurants, hotels and other big business are owned by these few guys ,one can hardly go to a cinemas where Indian movies r not given priority above other movies let say Kenyan or even english movies, go to the industrial areas along airport roads and see how over 98% of the companies are owned by these Indians ,go to this so called "nice" places ,Karen,Westland,parkland,muthaiga, spring valley,lavington.. and see how very few the black Kenyans are , blacks in kenya mostly stays in a very low areas with very poor facilities and the funny thing is the fact they stay not too far from where the Indians and white stays .so, I would summarise my Nairobi experience as, a place designed for few whites,Indians and tourist.
also, one would think it's only Nairobi that has this challenges but the truth is that, almost all Kenyan cities have same issues from Nakuru to naivasa, from Mombasa to malindi , from malindi to ukunda, from ukunda to eldoret, they all have this same issue of self delusional, myopic reasoning, they are all too blind to see what's going on, and it really pains me a lot. I have this friend from eldorate he once said this to me "it too late now ,we can never do any thing to these Indians ,any attempt to take back out economy from them means total collapse of our economy and we don't want to experience what happened to Zimbabwe and Uganda"
I just laughed and ended the conversation...

Oooh myyy! Nooo!
~~I have once seen a report where a black foreigner claimed that the number n influence of Indians n whites in Nairobi,Kenya is too much for a typical black african country buh i never thot it was that much~~.

TayserMahiri, muafrika2, PissedYagami, MtuMsuper
Is this really true?
I'm sorry if i sound so much of a critic or racist, i am not against foreigners in any way. I love em buh i don't like the idea of foreigners dominating or having so much influence in African cities. Nuuh i don't. Why should they?

Muafrika2:
We have one of the most neglectful governors right now in Nairobi too. He got rid of workers who did the cleaning and employed his own company which is doing a shoddy job. Hopefully the next governor will be wiser.

Wooo ** i wish most Nigerian governors could be this smart.

TayserMahiri:
Tourism is very lucrative. The government gets sick when something is hurting it because it brings in much needed foreign currency.

Kenya's fashion industry is a shadow of its former self. Cheap imports of clothes known as mitumba killed the textile industry. However, the government is reviving the sector and new brands have emerged strongly all of a sudden. A recent report came up with strategic goals recommendations.

Strategic Goal 1: Integrate Local Designers and Small Tailors in the Domestic Retail Market
Strategic Goal 2: Strengthen The National Fibre to Fashion Value Chain
Strategic Goal 3: Create an Enabling Environment to Support the Growth and Development of MSMEs in the Textile and Clothing Sector
Strategic Goal 4: Strengthen the Trade Support Network through Institutional Alignment
Strategic Goal 5: Enhance the Visibility of Kenyan Designers and Their Design Capabilities in Kenya, the Region and the Global Markets

As for entertainment, we are doing well but definitely can do better. The entertainment industry (as a whole and not restricted to movies) in kenya is definitely among the top in Africa. Nigeria however has an edge with its market, which kenya is trying to achieve by a unified East Africa. Kenya is the biggest pusher for an E. A Federation (like the UAE)

Jeeee. great. **M happy that your govnmt is working on the fashion industry. Even we in Nigeria are working on our textile productions too. A lot of importation is also killing our local textile industries

Yaah true, Nigeria has an advantage in entertainment with the large market, buh i still believe progress can be made without a large market as such, or don't you think? There was a time when Ghanaian movies and even musics beat Nigerian productions in quality and heavily penetrated our markets.
Congo once dominated the entire Africa with their music due to the quality.
Tanzanian musics seem to be doing pretty well, i am amazed from the quality of music videos n songs i watch from Tanzania n i heard that they have heavily penetrated the Kenyan market.
Africans have similar cultures n values and we will always patronize ourselves if we have value to offer to our products, dontcha think?

There is a large swahili speaking population n market, won't Tanzanians, Ugandans n other swahili speakers patronize Kenyan swahili movies if they are of world class quality?

Even now, you won't believe how Ghanaian movie producers are giving Nigerian producers a hot chase in terms of movie quality, (Although Ghana n Nigeria works together a lot in movie production, so their movies easily gain the patronization of the Nigerian market), what stops a collabo btw East African actors, producers, directors n co? You musn't have a united union to do such. Nigeria n Ghana share no boundary, buh our movie industry is almost intertwined.

See a Ghana movie below, there r many more of high quality like this. Some of the actors are Nigerians (the light-skinned guy at the centre and the dark-skinned guy on the left)

Holly, why can't we have a civilized, mature, friendly n educative conversation on this thread?
Why must we always antagonize and compare each other? why guys? am really dissapointed n sad here

CocoMilian:
Lol no all u gotta do is be gentle n have food. They'll come to you when you have food if not they may step back

yaah true. Buh my fear is in the process of giving these giraffes food 'mouth to mouth' like that guy in your first photo did.

PissedYagami:
Can't watch a Nigerian movie genieluv. When you start producing sci-fi movies tag me. Plus your accents are a huge turn off

Aaah, not cool dnt you think Nigerian movies at least need to encouraged with the recent efforts put in? If we can come this far, i believe we will soon start producing real action, adventure n sci fi movies with a close quality as Hollywood very soon
Are you saying you don't watch any other movies at all apart from sci-fi movies?

Btw, what'd u mean by our accents are a turn off? I don't get

PissedYagami:
Thats why we fully support Oromo independence

Mmm, daaah, Buh the current prime minister of Ethiopia is Oromo, isn't he? Oromos are not that marginalized in Ethiopia from what i can see. I may be wrong tho.
I also think it's wrong for you to be supporting the disintegration of Ethiopia. Are there not marginalized groups in Kenya too?

MtuMsuper:
okay. Still, movies are a window into particular country /society and how the world sees you. BTW, nollywood is very popular in the carribean as well.

9jakool has presented a very interesting analysis of some other aspects of bantoid people and language. Would you care to comment? Can you give us the names of common animals in your native tongue for comparison?

Oooh, cool. Never knew that nollywood has followership in the carribean . That's interesting to know.
***How'd u know if i may ask?

yaaah, i just saw 9jakool's comment. I will reply him appropriately when i get more links to butress my points and will tag you.......N just for note, i am not Tiv by ethnicity, buh my ethnic group and the Tivs are immediate neighbours sharing the same state.

I just keep on loving our vice president more and more.
God pls make him our official President. He has so much ideas.

fanficgirl:
They are a minority . Let's call @Hati13 he can explain better.

Kk, is he an ethiopian?

TayserMahiri:
Ok,

Hausa's must be funny people

Yaah, they sometimes are. Buh i think there are more yoruba n Igbo words in pidgin than hausa words.

TayserMahiri:
In 2014, domestic tourism contribution was 58.1 % while foreign tourists contributed the other 41.9 %. See page 6 in this file

https://www.wttc.org/-/media/files/reports/economic%20impact%20research/countries%202015/kenya2015.pdf

Kk. Cool. It's a lucrative industry.

In Nigeria, private investment in the tourism sector is like the last option you will see in the mind of the average Nigerian. Only 1 state promotes tourism in Nigeria. That is the only state that seems to have a future in tourism in Nigeria.

Do u see Kenya developing an entertainment and fashion industry just like Nigeria in the nearest period?

TayserMahiri:
It doesn't sound funny to you guys? I find it funny even when its not in jokes.
Now I think there is a way one can put it that makes it funny from your example. The original statement by Shervy was hella funny

Kk, yaah true

fanficgirl:
Tigrayan People's Liberation Front. They are the ones in control of Ethiopia, and they really only care about Tigrays. They do everything to maintain their dictatorship. They are universally hated in Ethiopia

Buh i thot the Tigrayans were a minority in Ethiopia?
How can they be dominating the Oromos n amharas?

Wonderful nollywood movies you guys need to try

fanficgirl:
I can't see Ethiopia lasting without balkanization. The TPLF can't maintain their dictatorship forever with all these rebellions.

Who are the TPLF**?

Shaytun:
It is inevitable.

Ethiopia’s economy is expected to overtake Kenya’s this year, buoyed by massive government spending on infrastructure that has kept the Horn of Africa nation on the list of the world’s fastest-growing economies in the past 10 years.
The International Monetary Fund’s (IMF) latest statistical estimates indicate that Ethiopia’s gross domestic product (GDP) is forecast to grow from $61.62 billion in 2015 to $69.21 billion this year, narrowly beating Kenya’s output, which is expected to rise from $63.39 billion to $69.17 billion over the same period.
“Ethiopia has experienced double-digit economic growth, averaging 10.8 per cent since 2005, which has mainly been underpinned by public-sector-led development,” the African Development Bank, the OECD Development Centre and the United Nations Development Programme say in the latest African Economic Outlook report.
Kenya’s GDP of $14.1 billion in 2000 was 71.6 per cent larger than Ethiopia’s $8.23 billion in the same year but the Horn of Africa nation has closed the economic gap in the last five years of robust growth.
The IMF’s GDP estimates are based on current market prices using exchange rates prevailing between July 22 and August 19.
INVESTMENT DESTINATION
Having established its economic lead ahead of Kenya, Ethiopia is forecast to maintain its position as Eastern Africa’s largest economy over the medium term — a position that is also expected to improve its standing as an investment destination

Oooh yaaah. Am very happy for Ethiopia. That country has what it takes to be among Africa's largest economies.

freshest4live:
Shikena means..that's It, or that's all.
Dunno if you know this old song from Naeto C( Nigerian musician) titled Ten over Ten. Just listen to it., the chorus ends with shikena.
https://www.google.de/url?q=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DMdjxnapms2Y&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwj656bGxJjUAhUkIJoKHbAWDrMQtwIICzAA&sig2=RIB4tGsAMHZZWpm26ris6g&usg=AFQjCNE4WEIiVQiu-YJqeU-DLI51OzMmEg

Shikena is actually a hausa word.
It's surprising how so many hausa words made it into pidgin yet most hausas do not speak pidgin.

Wahala, wayo, jara, yanga, shege are all hausa words by origin in pidgin english.

CocoMilian:
1. Feeding a giraffe with your mouth at the giraffe centre,Nairobi. Really cool you should try it once there.

2. Giraffe's are just too beautiful

3. Nairobi national park.

Oooh my, i would be too death scared to try this. Won't it bite my face?

TayserMahiri:
I love that

Which languages do the two words originate?

Shikena originated from hausa

>>>>>Yanfu yanfu, hmm i dont know buh seems like Igbo or no language at all. Many pidgin words have no language origins.
It's actually spelt n pronounced nyafu-nyafu. Can also be replaced by 'boku, sara, jabrata, full-ground'. i don't think all these words have any origins, they just evolved.

TayserMahiri:
Do you think this attitude is a common one in nigeria? Honestly, nigeria creates images of people arguing and banging tables all the time

Hiiiii , yaah, most Nigerians are very short tempered n impatient. Especially the men.

TayserMahiri:
About KSh 220.6 bn or USD 2.2 bn in 2014 alone.

Oooh, great. N what percentage of this income comes from foreigners? You have any idea?

TayserMahiri:
LMAO, my goodness. Pidgin kills me

I have a rough idea what you are saying but thats crazy funny

really?, pidgin sounds so normal unless when used in cracking jokes. Tho it is really a very expressive language and makes explanation so real it also has many interpretations

''opportunities dey yanfu yanfu for Naija pas Kenya or Gabon.Na why mtn dey very successful for Naija be that. Shikena''

This can also be translated in a different form like

''Opportunities boku yakata for Naija pass Kenya or Gabon kukuma, na him make mtn dey hammer die for Naija so o"

You can see how different it appears buh means same thing.

Hbuyosh:
Aaw! You are so good natured! I'll hazard a guess that u are probably the reason why the harsh arguments here have somewhat toned down here.

You and that other lady fanficgirl......

yaah i believe we can never learn about each other n develop ourselves by being negative. In the past i might have engaged in wordings of harsh tones buh i learnt it's of no benefit.

TayserMahiri:
Geniuses, tell us how we are suppossed to value all tourism except from what it brings annually

Holly You are right. So, i think i'm interested in the annual profit of this sector. Can you enlighten me?