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CelebritiesRe: "Tithing Works" Daddy Freeze Diss Pastor Oyedepo And Wife With Throwback Photos by genkins(m): 10:32am On Nov 17, 2018
Henriekay:
Its is part of our redemption for us to be so blessed by God that people will start to envy us. Renembrr issac in Gen 26:1 downwards. All i see from this guy is envy and it is scriptural allow him he is fulfilling scriptures. Now if u work for an organisation for close to 35years and they pay u very well when u are about to resign. How much more working for God for this number of years. U may not like bishop oyedepo but that man is a blessed man . All u can do is envy this man of God. Happy weeked nairalanders
I knew you cannot substantiate the redemption and blessings story from the new covenant.na old testament you fit see stuff like that.your father that has been working 35 yrs I n Shell,how many private jets does he have? Nigerians ehn,wake up!
Christianity EtcRe: Would It Still Be Tithe If I Pay It To Someone In Need Rather Than The Church? by genkins(m): 3:14pm On Nov 04, 2018
Ambassadors:
No wonder the scripture said the foolishness of God is wiser than the wisdom of men. How does giving alms equate to giving tithe. So many people here buy the idea of giving alms as tithe that's why it's written that as the heaven is higher than the earth so is God's ways higher than man's ways. We love trying to be logical with God's word but it's not so. Embrace the foolishness of God's word and you will become wisdom to the world.Since I started this I have never lacked, I give to the poor also. Have a blessed Sunday!
Jesus himself never advised us to give to the church but we should give to the poor.why do we do the one he did not advise us to?if you give a poor brethren then it means you give to the church because the Church is us not the building and it's administration
Christianity EtcRe: Would It Still Be Tithe If I Pay It To Someone In Need Rather Than The Church? by genkins(m): 3:09pm On Nov 04, 2018
Erastuslove:
O man! There is difference between Tithe 1/10th and offering or free gift..... I was told about a Muslim who sneak into a church to pay tithes only, come and see how He was BLESSED AND REGRETED CHRISTIAN NOT TITHING....

Tithes is compulsory and gift is based on ur mind
One moslem that we cannot verify.if you still pay tithes,you are cursed.
Christianity EtcRe: Would It Still Be Tithe If I Pay It To Someone In Need Rather Than The Church? by genkins(m): 2:28pm On Nov 04, 2018
LandlordHopeful:
He's not the one speaking. its the holy spirit speaking through him. don't blaspheme my GO because it carries same consequence as blaspheming holy spirit. be warned
Look at you.who bewitched you? adeboye abi? Stephen full with the holy spirit was stoned to death.so who is your GO?
Christianity EtcRe: Would It Still Be Tithe If I Pay It To Someone In Need Rather Than The Church? by genkins(m): 2:24pm On Nov 04, 2018
iwatchandlisten:
The answer to your query is NO. Christ owns the CHURCH so your tithe belong to God. What the leaders of your congregation does with it, by God's inspiration, is between them and God.

Those who genuinely submit their tithes because they love God, joyfully also do charities without complaining. They are not mutually exclusive.

NB - 10% Tithe is the LAW, but those operating on GRACE, normally submit more than 10% of their income. This is a demonstration that you're operating above the law. May God give you wisdom and courage to follow His WORD.
Ole!above the law ko,below the law in.receive sense IJN
Christianity EtcRe: Ayilara Oluwaseunfun Evicted From His Church For Appearing On Daddy Freeze Show by genkins(m): 12:55pm On Oct 29, 2018
asuustrike1:
Yes many of us love celebrations. Celebrating Christmas is a choice, you wouldn't go to hell for celebrating it provided you don't go extreme. But it wiil be stupid to celebrate one's birthday or ,marriage anniversary because it is unscriptural. Cases of birthdays recorded in the bible were bad. Many persons are good at condeming things but they accept half truth.Even those against it because idolatry are more involved in idolatry. They foolishly observe the months of the year forgetting that it is deeply rooted in idolatry. Let's tell ourselves the truth, do you think Jesus would ask you whether you celebrate Christmas or not on judgement day?
It will be stupid to select things that best suit you and leave the rest. Tithing has been there from beginning and would remain till the world end. Those against it should save many of us their sermons and establish their churches.
Let me share with you a true life story of a pastor that kicked against tithing. Pastor Yemisi Adeniyi ( not real name) was all over the internet telling whoever choose to listen that tithing is obsolete. He was able to gather followership which eventually lead to forming a church. His message on giving was "Give cheerfully with a willing heart". The offerings realized from each assembly wasn't enough to cater for administrative expenses. He didn't know what to do as he can't preach to members on tithing. He thought of it then he invited Offiong Anang ( not real name) to sell the idea of tithing. Few days latter, a church service was held when suddenly Offiong started manifesting. She began to speak in tongues and was like a mouthpiece of God that day. She was able to convince the church to pay tithe ". The gullible members fell for her antics thereafter they started paying tithe. Pastor Yemisi was living large. He settles Offiong 10% of whatsoever income the church generates on each gathering. It got to a point that He couldn't take it anymore because his revenue was reducing as a result of the 10% and other expenses. He forgot about Offiong even after she threatened to expose him. It is was time for Thanksgiving. The church was fill to the brim that they hired canopies and chairs. The church service was going on smoothly when all of a sudden, Offiong took the microphone to release the bombshell. This led to the closure of that church in Lagos. The madness of tithing blabla died naturally.
Another group is coming up with similar thing but their aim is to lure men to hell. Going by divine encounters, tithing is one of the requirements to enter heaven. Many persons will not like this but it is what I saw with my korokoro eyes. The judgement throne is very tough and strict. I enjoin believers who care to listen to watch Pst Abraham Yakubu's tape. It is optional if you choose to listen or not.
Are you for real?or just joking?
PoliticsRe: I Met Bishop Oyedepo's Official Pilot In The Airport by genkins(m): 4:50pm On Oct 27, 2018
False humility while flying in a multi-million nair jet.rubbish
Christianity EtcRe: Bishop Oyedepo: "I Have Never Received A Dime From Any Political Candidate" by genkins(m): 6:03pm On Oct 14, 2018
HigherEd:
The living faith church nor oyedepo never participated in any asset evaluation with forbes ro arrive at that figure of wealth.

The Forbes report was written by an unserious fellow called mfonobong nsehe( i have my reasons for calling him unserious)
What he analyzed was some church assets e.g Covenant university, Landmark and so called four jets. He just estimated because he had no access to these properties. As at 2013 check with NUC, Landmark alone was worth $100 million at take off. Investment at Covenant is over 100 Billion.

Oyedepo does not keep much money in accounts from what i know but his access to wealth is beyond normal.

The Church housing city in Ota is budgeted at 1 Billion USD(360 Billion naira). They don't even rent space for parking jet, they own an hangar that can park 6 jets.

Can Atiku Afford to build An Airstrip on 3000 acres of land like living faith is doing in Ota?

Atiku kept his university at 3 million naira to survive, oyedepo subsidized his to be 800,000.00 and ask me which one made it to the world ranking first? - just go and look at all the buildings that were donated by friends and partner in AUN.

Not one building in Covenant was endowed by friend, partner or politician, not one! save for the banks that collected land to build. I know other churches that have solicited support from outsiders to endow buildings...
See ehn,the way we reason is absurd.how can you be comparing atiku to Oyedepo?do people pay tithe to atiku? Oyedepo is rich,so what is he into apart from collecting from the poor and running a non profit organization like a business.when did earthly riches become a thing to boast about for a clergy?atiku is a business man and deserves to be rich but Oyedepo should focus more on heavenly riches.
Christianity EtcRe: Daddy Freeze Reacts To Foluke Adeboye's Marriage Advice: 'Go To Your Pastor 1st' by genkins(m): 9:54am On Oct 05, 2018
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daddyfreeze are these people beginning to manifest early signs of senility?
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These teachings have no recourse to the Bible! Jesus himself said you shouldn’t give money meant for your parents to the temple, let alone this trash.
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I hope these people have access to the wealth and the airplane she and her husband are flying, when they have finished helping them take all these decisions for them?� ~FRZ
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#FreeTheSheeple
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◄ Matthew 15 ►
New International Version [3] Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? [4] For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’ a and ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’ [5] But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is ‘devoted to God,’ [6] they are not to ‘honor their father or mother’ with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. [7] You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:...
Freeze did not fail to provide scriptures to the effect.
Christianity EtcRe: Bishop Oyedepo: 'Many Politicians Will Die Before 2019' by genkins(m): 9:36am On Oct 03, 2018
Pesoli:
Do you know what happened to those kids making jest of Elisha? Elisha created bears to eat them up. I want you to repent before I allow the wrath of God to open unto you. It will start like nightmare, they will flog you from sleep and you will feel when you woke up.
@pesoli,so you know what happened to Stephen?they stoned him and fire burnt them all?John the Baptist nko? Peter,paul,luke etc guy are u a Christian or a Jew?
Christianity EtcRe: David Oyedepo Celebrates His 64th Birthday Today by genkins(m): 8:30am On Sep 27, 2018
For a man that has robbed the poor silly and lives in riches And squalor from the prosperity gospel.weh done
Lemme see how many jets and universities he will take with him to the after-life
PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage: NLC Begins Nationwide Strike Today by genkins(m): 5:53am On Sep 27, 2018
Bullshit,when last did public servants strike in solidarity with private workers?
So private workers should abandon thier suffering under various private companies to protest minimum wage for public officials...abeg free us.spits
Christianity EtcRe: Finally,Daddy Freeze Now Supported By MOG by genkins(op): 3:35pm On Sep 19, 2018
HigherEd:
No, it is foolishness to face the message without looking at the messenger. That advise you just gave me led to the fall of man. Eve listened to the devil without considering the hidden motivations for mankind, Jesus was wiser, that yet the devil was not lying when he tempted Jesus with his authority over the earth he knew the motivation of the devil was to destroy man's last chance.

There are many of us that are aggrieved in the spirit about events in the Church. But we realise that Christianity was not founded on social media therefore its problems would not be resolved by it. For our own warfare is never carnal. Christian revival is always birthed in fervent intercession and not mockery of the Guides who hold the torch, however imperfect as they may be.
So spirit will fly and change each of our pastors mind from stealing from God.continu..the revolution has already started.God can speak through anyone.the vessel is unimportant.
And what is the motivation for stopping ur pastors from robbing the poor in promise of grace?to make them poorer?or to send the pastors to eternal damnation? Please think
Christianity EtcRe: Finally,Daddy Freeze Now Supported By MOG by genkins(op): 8:13am On Sep 19, 2018
HigherEd:
I did not watch it, but anyone who supports freeze is a NO for me. I do not care who the person is.
The Christian faith as practiced by Hagin, Wigglesworth, John G Lake, Adeboye, Kuhlman is ok for me..
It is OK for you.is it OK by christ?
Christianity EtcFinally,Daddy Freeze Now Supported By MOG by genkins(op):
Dr abel damina damns the consequence of standing with the true gospel as promoted by daddyfreeze.
Watch this link


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmtbk0QpKuw

We hope the purveyors of the Mammon gospel Rccg,living faith, omega ,house on the rock etc will repent and follow the true gospel soon
Christianity EtcRe: Daddy Freeze: I Was Attacked By Religious Mafia, It's Not God's Wrath by genkins(m): 12:00pm On Sep 17, 2018
HRHQueenPhil:
congratulations on inviting d Spirit of Death in to ur life,don't blame anyone but urself for the choice u av taken dis evening
Are you for real?smh.i give up
Christianity EtcRe: Daddy Freeze: I Was Attacked By Religious Mafia, It's Not God's Wrath by genkins(m): 5:53pm On Sep 16, 2018
obataokenwa:
Every good Christian will surely know where this man will end.

At last God will still send him to one of the men Of God to deliver and help him.

I see him turning to a mockery soon
Every true Christian knows freeze has refused the mark of the beast.very soon to chop fit be problem but the grace of God will see him through.in Jesus's case he was crucified and most of his disciples beheaded sponsored by the elders of religion that time.
If freeze stops saying the truth,goes to kneel down and get Oyedepo's or adeboye lay hands on him and start preaching their type of gospel,i bet you because of his intelligence, before 2 years he will be driving a rolce royce or Bentley and his MC job will be back
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze: I Haven't Gotten A Job Since I Started 'Free The Sheeple Movement' by genkins(m): 3:32pm On Sep 15, 2018
VULCAN:
Abraham was the first man who paid tithe in the bible.

He came over 430 years before the law

That Freeze deceived your pastor is a sure sign that your Pastor is NOT a student of the word.

Nevertheless, I am not in agreement with flamboyant pastors who spend lavishly on their personal needs.

Their judgement is coming
So because Abraham gave(not paid)tithe once in his lifetime from spoils of war(ie not from his income) and gave the remain 90% to the king of sodom,is that why you are paying monthly?guy your darkness is deep.
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze: I Haven't Gotten A Job Since I Started 'Free The Sheeple Movement' by genkins(m): 10:35pm On Sep 14, 2018
Nigerians are stupid people.i remember MMM.how we tried to convince y'all that it was a scam and Ponzi.majority defended MMM wth everything they had.we are generally daft.and when it eventually failed,they all kept quiet.
Reading through this tread,majority cannot see that freeze has refused the mark of the beast.christ said the world hates him and if u follow him,the world would hate you too.you all hate this freeze abi?that's how I know freeze is right and your pastors are the anti-christ.freeze says to worships God is free but ur pastors put a price to it.Foolish Nigerians
Christianity EtcOpinion On SCAM Gospel-oyedepo's Prosperity Gospel by genkins(op): 11:43am On Sep 14, 2018
Opinion: Joys Oyedepo is my friend but her father’s prosperity doctrine isn’t for me

The Christian theology that teaches God will bless you financially if you sow a seed is quite pretentious—while financial blessings are already given to Christians, Jews, Atheists and Muslims. So why should I bother about giving money to receive material things?

The prosperity gospel was preached before I was even born with prominent televangelists in the 80’s who brought error to the Christendom.

With American preachers of the likes Kenneth Copeland, Paula White-Cain and African pastors, Bishop David Oyedepo, Matthew Ashimolowo, Funke Adejumo I began to feel disconnected due to the amount of money you are required to give to be successful in life.

You have this sense of obligation to give money otherwise things will not work out for you. I was blind enough to follow such doctrines while I knew that Jesus had warned us about the end times that prophets will rise in the name of Jesus to perform all kinds of miracles and money would be the focus of their mission.

The problem I have with the African church is not the leadership but the wrong doctrinal practises that we have seen for the past three decades. I find it hard to believe that pastors who place emphasis on money in exchange of miracles don’t know that this is a gospel of greed and opulence.

I can tell you that it is nearly impossible to attend a church service without special seeds collections. It has become the norm and many people are still afraid to speak against it because Pastors are immune to criticism apparently.

When I realised that I have wasted a lot of time in church seeking for miracles instead of getting to know God on a personal basis, I was also led to believe that seed sowing and pledges were the way to my prosperity. I then discovered that it was a fraud because when I used to give money to the church, the poorer I became. I struggled a lot and knew that this wasn’t what God intended for believers on earth.

Many people will judge me and say that I don’t have enough faith or maybe because I have failed to pay my dues to the church. But when I began to ask questions and study the lives of successful business men, I discovered that that these people are hardworking, diligent with a genius mind to solve society problems. I then reflected that I’m giving away money that I have toiled without a clear vision or plan for my life. I never knew much about how the economic world functions until I began to read financial books and I knew that I got it all wrong. What does seed sowing to God means when it comes to owning a business? As a matter of fact, pastors are the ones benefiting because they are the ones receiving every week. Is this fair? Not at all. So why keep giving away money and not get return for investment as promised?

In the current Christian community, the emphasis is on how to become rich by giving to the pastor. I also know that God doesn’t have a bank account, but we are expected to help the needy, orphans, widows and the poor among us. If we look at the largest humanitarian charities like Unicef, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Akon Lighting Africa and many more we understand that these philanthropists understood that money is not to be spent on luxury but in rendering services. Have you ever asked yourself, why should I give my salary to my pastor? This is wrong at all levels, but many people think that I’m no longer a believer but a philosopher or free thinker. I wish you could understand and one day I’m sure you will!

Do you also know that majority of Pastors have failed us, and we should not be silent about it. This is an injustice and I’m sure God knows exactly what is happening and will not allow more people to be deceived again. Now that I know the truth, nothing can change my mind about it. If you want to become rich look for innovative ideas and come up with a stunning project. As for me and my house, seed sowing, pledges and sacrificial offerings are banished, I’d rather give money to those in need not a pastor they don’t need my money.

My friend Joys Oyedepo, if you manage to read this, I love you sis but couldn’t stand your father’s doctrine on prosperity anymore. I really wish you could read this and tell me if what I said was offensive or the truth.

by Benita Owobi, Media Personality, TV, Radio,
RomanceRe: Meet Nkiruka Blessing Okoro, Relationship Expert Had 4 Men For Different Purpose by genkins(m): 9:54am On Sep 13, 2018
So this ugly thing is the one that had 4boyfriends.i doubt.
Face-2/10
Legs-1.5/10
Curves/hip-1.7/10
Face-2/10
Cleavage-fallen-1.9/10

Like I said.i doubt
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Enenche Blasts Critics Asking Churches To Build Industries by genkins(m): 11:53am On Sep 05, 2018
bedspread:
I Pray For You My Brother, That The Mercy of GOD ALMIGHTY your Creator Fall on you before you drop
That God you are worshipping and you will definitely be cast into the lake of fire when the time comes.i pity you.do not forget,narrow is the way to heaven and wide is the road to eternal damnation.do you think that all of you misguided folks that are this much will make heaven?u and your God will share in eternal misery mark my words.idiot!
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Enenche Blasts Critics Asking Churches To Build Industries by genkins(m): 5:56am On Sep 05, 2018
bedspread:
May u not be late b4 u know how u hv done yourself
Your God of Mammon cannot do anything.your darkness is very deep.you are an idiot and will remain so for a long time.spits.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Enenche Blasts Critics Asking Churches To Build Industries by genkins(m): 9:41pm On Sep 04, 2018
bedspread:
Am sure hospital and challenges beyond money will be Eating u..

Do u know there are people who are loaded in cash and they lack life due to continuous Health issues??
You Rob GOD when u don't tithe... and no Man can Rob his Creator...
If u don't lack money u lack GOD'S presence and u are empty
Guy what you wrote here is disgusting.your brainwashing is at an advanced stage.so China and Singapore have continuous health issues?lol.i guess even jesus Christ robbed his creator as he did not get give or receive tithe.i don't worship the same God as yours.sorry I don't worship Mammon.
Christianity EtcRe: Daddy Freeze On Pastor Adeboye's Necklace: "This Is Pressing Of Virgin Breast" by genkins(m): 2:12pm On Sep 04, 2018
larrybee2017:
You be real mumu, what sense does his post make Biko. I'm sure the nurses on duty miss your bed, that's why your drugs were not administer like freeze.
Just imagine this one.he thinks another person is stupid and has not taken his meds.lol.when you are stupid and don't know that you are stupid.intelligent people sound stupid
Christianity EtcRe: Daddy Freeze On Pastor Adeboye's Necklace: "This Is Pressing Of Virgin Breast" by genkins(m): 1:45pm On Sep 04, 2018
It's obvious we have more stupid people than thoughtful ones.daddyfreeze seems stupid to you because he says things way beyond what your brains can carry.stupid people!
Christianity EtcRe: Daddy Freeze On Pastor Adeboye's Necklace: "This Is Pressing Of Virgin Breast" by genkins(m): 1:43pm On Sep 04, 2018
I am not surprised.majority of we Nigerians are very unintelligent and foolish.daddyfreeze is is an anti christ,he is not making sense.has anyone bothered to read what Ezekiel 23 is saying.even if u read it,can u understand what it says?it talks about two cities that were into idol worship and likened it to prostitutions.oh my God!I give up on you Nigerians!
Christianity EtcNigerian Chriatians,use Your Brain by genkins(op): 3:27pm On Jul 25, 2018
THE ONLY FEE IS TO USE YOUR BRAIN.culled from daddyfreeze.com

July 25, 2018




All of you who keep worshipping


gods of men! Stop blaming the devil! Use your brain! Read what the Bible tells you. Your only debt is Love. Love God and love your neighbor.

Take a good look at this:

��‍♀️ Running to church fellowship 24/7 instead of tending to your business. When your business fails you blame the devil ��‍♀️

��‍♀️ Running to pay tithes to pastor instead of paying taxes to the government. When the roads are bad you blame the devil ��‍♀️

��‍♀️ Running to attend a one week youth conference instead of reading for your exams! When you fail again you blame the devil ��‍♀️

��‍♀️ Running to take your sick child to the pastors house or to the church grounds for prayers instead of going to the hospital for treatment! When that child gets worse or even dies! You blame the devil ��‍♀️

The Bible tells us that paying tithes is not for Christians!
The following scriptures tell you to leave the Law alone! As a Christian you are no longer under the Law

Hebrews 7:5

Matthew 23:23

Galatians 3:1

Galatians 3:10

Galatians 5:4

Galatians 2:17-18

Matthew 25:15

Exodus 23:19

Paying tithes cuts you off from God, you fall from the grace of God, and you are put under a curse! You are in sin.

You continue to focus on the wolf (the devil) not the shepherds (your pastors)! You accept all they tell you. You question nothing! 95% of sheep are eaten by their shepherds

The blood of Jesus is supposed to give you rest, but you are loosing your resting place because you are following god’s of men who worship Mammon.

Seek the truth

Remain Blessed
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Jones Jailed For Telling Members To Tithe 10% Of Their Incomes by genkins(op): 4:43pm On Jul 21, 2018
Abi oo.no mind them
Christianity EtcRe: Why It Is Wrong To Be Addressed As "Daddy G.O" And The Likes by genkins(m): 10:11pm On Jul 20, 2018
mknigeriagreat:
I prayed for you today bro. I actually prayed for God to meet with you like He did Paul. I will have a testimony over you in Jesus name.
Oh i weep for you poor soul.u sound intelligent.what a waste!.u need just a little wisdom.I even forgot to tell you.I also prayed for you too,I wept bitterly at your demonic ignorance and also majority of you blind bats,the holy ghost will soon arrest you.true salvation will come your way as soon as the scales fall off your eyes.that evil spirit that does not know how to inteprete bible,(that makes you take the word of paul over our savior jesus christ)the holy ghost will dismantle its stronghold in your life.in Jesus mighty name.amen.I will watch out for you ,you will finally come to your senses.i promise you.
Christianity EtcRe: Why It Is Wrong To Be Addressed As "Daddy G.O" And The Likes by genkins(m): 8:17pm On Jul 20, 2018
mknigeriagreat:
Two things. It is either you are an atheist or just a non-christian. I don't know why what is in the bible has become your headache. Like I said, it will be very unprofitable of me to engage in debating the scriptures with you because I don't debate the scriptures I explain it through the help of the Holy-spirit. On this note, I say Have a nice day and mind you, I just added you to the list of people I pray for daily now. You will encounter Jesus just like Paul did. Amen.
Imagine the depth of your ignorance.Saul was a pharisee like you are now and was persecuting christians(people devoted to worshipping God in spirit and in truth).are u sure u aren't the one that needs an encounter with Jesus?if your interpretation of the bible is this shallow,are you sure its the holy spirit? That's how u know a pharisee. They like to boast.them alone know/have holy spirit. Spits.na evil spirit my guy
Christianity EtcPastor Jones Jailed For Telling Members To Tithe 10% Of Their Incomes by genkins(op): 8:05pm On Jul 20, 2018
Pastor Jones jailed for telling members to tithe 10% of their incomes.

Courtroom exchanges between a Judge of the Law and Pastor Jones.

The truth about tithing
(unknown author)

Judge: Mr. Jones you have been charged with multiple counts of extortion. Your crime spree covers 20 years and thousands of victims. You have defrauded people out of their money with fear and manipulation, telling them they had to tithe 10% of their income as per the LAW to your Regd. organization (called Church) and that God would bless them if they did. You also told them that if they didn’t tithe God would curse them.
How do you plead?

Mr. Jones: I plead not guilty your Honor,
I have done nothing wrong. I have only preached what the Bible says. In the Bible Abraham tithed to Melchizedek and God blessed him for his faithful giving. The Bible even says he was rich in silver and gold.



Judge: Is it not true, Mr. Jones, that in Genesis chapter 13 verse 2 the Bible says Abraham was rich with livestock, silver and gold?

Mr. Jones: Yes, you are exactly right, that’s what I just told you.

Judge: Ok, we read about Abraham being a rich man in chapter 13 but it is not until Genesis chapter 14 that we read about Abraham’s tithe to Melchizedek. So Abraham was already a rich man before he tithed to Melchizedek, wasn’t he?

Mr. Jones: Yes, I suppose you are right.

Judge: So his riches were not the result of his tithe to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: No.

Judge: Mr. Jones, you also say God blessed him for his faithful giving. How many times is it recorded that Abraham gave tithes to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: Well, just once.

Judge: So the Bible never said that he gave week after week?

Mr. Jones: No it does not.

Judge: Where did Abraham get the things that he gave to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: Well the Bible says it was from the plunders of war?

Judge: So you are telling me that he gave from the plunders of war?

Mr. Jones: Yes that’s what the Bible says.

Judge: So he basically took things that were not really his in the first place and gave them as the tithe?

Mr. Jones: That is what the scripture seems to indicate.



Judge: Is it recorded that he ever took anything from his own possessions and tithed them to Melchizedek or anyone else?

Mr. Jones: I guess not

Judge: You guess not, you are a teacher and you are only guessing, is it or is it not written that he ever gave any of his own possessions as a tithe to anyone?

Mr. Jones: No it is not written anywhere that I have seen.

Judge: Is it recorded as to what exactly Abraham did give Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: I believe it says plunder?

Judge: So plunder could be any number of things?

Mr. Jones: Yes, I suppose

Judge: It could have been food, cattle, sheep, the people’s possessions or any number of things. It does not say it was all money correct?

Mr. Jones: Yes you are correct, it does not say just money

Judge: As a matter of fact money is never mentioned in that account at all is that correct Mr. Jones?

Mr. Jones: Yes your Honor, money is never mentioned just goods and food and people.

Judge: So there is no way you can say with any certainty that Abraham in fact gave Melchizedek any money at all?

Mr. Jones: That is right.

Judge: I only have one last question for you Mr. Jones, did God command Abraham to give this plunder tithe to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: No, it appears that he did this voluntarily.

Judge: So are you trying to tell me that because of this voluntary, one time gift by Abraham, that may not have even consisted of money, all Christians everywhere are obligated to bring 10% of their weekly paycheck to a local Regd.Organization-church?
Considering all the evidence I would say you are beyond any shadow of a doubt guilty of deliberately trying to make the scriptures says things they have not said for financial gain.



Mr. Jones: Ok your Honor, I can see how foolish I was to try and use the story of Melchizedeck to try and get the people to tithe money. But there are many other verses that will support my belief on tithing. Jacob said he would give God 10% of everything. I think we should follow his example.

Judge: Let’s see what Jacob said. Please read the verse you are talking about for me Mr. Jones.

Mr. Jones: In Genesis chapter 28 starting at verse 20 it says. Jacob vowed a vow, saying, “If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and clothing to put on, so that I come again to my father’s house in peace, and Yahweh will be my God, then this stone, which I have set up for a pillar, will be God’s house. Of all that you will give me I will surely give the tenth to you.”

Judge: You said we should follow Jacobs example, is that right Mr. Jones?

Mr. Jones: Yes that is right, he vowed to give a tenth and we should too.

Judge: Let me point out one thing for you Mr. Jones, Jacob said he would Give God a tenth, ONLY if He blessed him first. So as you said previously, we should follow Jacob’s example and tell God that we will only give him a tenth if he blesses us first. Is that right?

Mr. Jones: That is not what I meant.

Judge: What did you mean then?

Mr. Jones: That we should give God a tenth also.

Judge: There you go again, trying to make the scripture say what you want it to say for your benefit. I would also like you to tell me the scriptures that say that Jacob kept his vow with God. I would also like to know where he gave the tenth to because there was no temple or levites to give it to at that time.

Mr. Jones: I can not think of any scriptures that say where or if he ever tithed after his vow.

Judge: It seems fairly obvious to me that Jacob made a voluntary and conditional vow to God. This in no way can be used as a reason to demand others to bring their income to you or any other place.



Mr. Jones: I do have a few more scriptures that I believe will show that we are supposed to tithe.

Judge: You have not said anything yet to convince me one little bit that people are obligated to tithe money to the local organizational institutions -churches and that you were justified in what you were doing. You have taken scripture and misapplied it to your beliefs and for your gain. But in order to be fair to you I will allow you to present more evidence.

Mr. Jones: In the book of Malachi chapter 3 starting at verse 8 it says, will a man rob God? yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, In what have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. Bring ye all the tithes into the store-house, that there may be food in my house, and prove me now with this, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. So you see your Honor, we are commanded to bring the tithes into the storehouse or God will curse us.

Judge: Answer me this Mr Jones, Who was God Speaking to here?

Mr Jones: To the People of Israel

Judge: Can you please read Malachi 2: 1 Please Mr Jones

Mr Jones: Now This command is for you O PRIEST !!

Judge: Did God stop talking to the Priest in chp. 3 Mr Jones?

Mr Jones: No your Honor!

Judge: Answer me this Mr. Jones, were you aware that God never required anyone to tithe money?

Mr. Jones: No I didn’t know that.

Judge: The tithe spoken of here was always edible products never money.

Mr. Jones: well your Honor that is because they didn’t have money at the time so God had them tithe food instead.

Judge: Not true, money is first mentioned in Genesis and Malachi was written hundreds of years later. God had them bring food in so that the levites, the fatherless and widows may eat and be satisfied. The tithe was used mainly to take care of people. Also notice it says in the verse you quoted, that there may be food in my house. The food was the tithe. How do you completely overlook the word food in those verses?

Mr. Jones: I don’t know

Judge: I also want you to know that these verses speak to nation under the Old Testament law. As you may or may not know Jesus fulfilled the law, it is no longer binding.
Once again you have tried to completely take a scripture out of context and apply it to others for your benefit. Can you give me a single scripture where God changed the tithe from food to money?

Mr. Jones: I do not know of any.

Judge: So if God never changed it from food to money who did?

Mr. Jones: Man must have.

Judge: So far all you have done Mr. Jones, is take Old Testament scriptures out of context and try to apply it to believers under the New Covenant. Is this all the proof you have?

Mr. Jones: I do have a New Testament scripture that will show that Jesus told us to tithe.

Judge: Ok let me hear it.

Mr. Jones: Jesus said in Matthew 23:23 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint, dill, and cumin, and have left undone the weightier matters of the law: justice, mercy, and faith. But you ought to have done these, and not to have left the other undone. See Jesus said we should be tithing.

Judge: Let me ask you a question, who was Jesus talking to?

Mr. Jones: The scripture says the Scribes and Pharisees.

Judge: Are you a scribe or Pharisee?

Mr. Jones: Of course not.

Judge: Jesus also said in that passage, you have left undone the weightier matters of the law. Are we under the law Mr. Jones?

Mr. Jones: No.

Judge: Why not?

Mr. Jones: Because Jesus fulfilled it.

Judge: When did Jesus fulfill the law?

Mr. Jones: When He was crucified.

Judge: So the law was still in effect until Jesus death?

Mr. Jones: That is correct.

Judge: I think you know where I am going with this don’t you?

Mr. Jones: Yes your Honor. Since Jesus had not yet been crucified and the law was still binding the Pharisees were required to tithe because it was part of the law. Once the law ended, tithing ended also.

Judge: I want you to take a look at that verse again. Also tell me, what were they tithing?

Mr. Jones: The scripture says it was mint, dill and cumin.

Judge: Is money mentioned?

Mr. Jones: No it was not.

Judge: Once again it was edible products that they were tithing, not money. Do you have anything else you would like to say?

Mr. Jones: If people only tithed edible products like the scripture says, then how would the church survive? We have our mortgage payment, utility bills, staff salary and a host of other things that we have to pay each week. We depend on the money from the people.

Judge:By “church” you mean your organization isn’t it Mr Jones ?
-The need does not justify the means. In other words, just because you have all these debts does not give you the right to twist and manipulate scripture and cause people to give under fear of being cursed by God to meet your needs. Does It Mr Jones?
In closing, let me recap a few things for you Mr. Jones.
-The tithe was never money;
-The tithe was an Old Testament law, which is no longer binding. When it was binding the tithe was used to take care of people, not buildings.
– We are under a new covenant now.
Paul instructs the Corinthian believers how they are to give. He says in second Corinthians chapter 9 verse 7, Let each man give according as he has determined in his heart; not grudgingly, or under compulsion; for God loves a cheerful giver. So each believer is supposed to give as he or she has determined in his or her heart.
If they determine to Give 10% well and good, If they keep aside some every week to meet this more better.If you are trying to make people give under the threat of being cursed or any other reason even blessing, you are wrong. Someone can not give cheerfully if they are being forced to give. If ‘your church can not survive on freewill offerings maybe God is not part of your church at all.
Mr Jones, Do you intentionally put your people under a Curse or a Bondage?

Mr Jones: Of Course Not !!

Judge: Can you Read in context Gal 3:10-11 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them ….
AND
Gal 5:1-4 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage….

Mr. Jones: I never realized all these things, I have always been taught that we had to tithe money to the local church and that is what I have always taught. I can see now that I was completely wrong. I did not study the scripture for myself, I only took mans word for it.
Yes ‘ am guilty. I will not teach this error anymore.

Sentencing……. All Arise …
Guilible Nigerians una don't hear?people with limited education and thoroughly washed braincells will still find a defense for their G.Os

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