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Cantonese:
If this young man found anything negative against Dr. Olukoya, he would have been making money out of it by now. Even as Dr. Olukoya and the MFM have kept out of the spotlight. So he has abandoned his attacks on Pastor Adeboye and other men of God.

Now he has brought this up out of his selfish desire at popularity and attempt to embarrass and mislead christians.

Ignorantly he reads his bible like he reads a novel or newspaper - no insight. Unfortunately those who follow him are just as blind as he is.

He can keep praying for his enemies to prosper and for peace in the lives of his enemies if he wants and that is his business. When the bible said "Watch and pray", what did he think it meant?

It is people like this young man who secretlt run helter skelter in search of solutions to their self inflicted spiritual problems from the MFM.

Ignorance in a lot of cases is no excuse. I think if this young man does this for cheap popularity he must put an end to it as quickly as possible.

Even God himself kills. Look at 1Samuel2:6; Genesis 38:7-10; Luke 12:5 and for avoidance of further doubt look at Ecclesiates 3:3 "a time to kill and a time to heal..."

His words are ever deceptive and I dare say quite provocative and stupid. Some christians have taken it upon themselves to destroy the church and surely by the grace of God such renegades will always fail.

The mountain of fire and miracles ministries is not one of those deceptive places where people get brainwashed and are taught confusing things about Jesus. All you need to do is take out time to worship. So also is RCCG, Deeper life bible ministries and other ministries where God's ordained Generals hold sway. Find time to worship with them.

I think this person should channel his energy to more constructive things about the church.

I don't understand you people again.the young man freeze quoted from the Bible the exact words of Jesus not paul or any old testament prophet,jesus himself,yet you say he is wrong?the devil has a very strong hold of you guys

Is prosperity not what the white coated bishop in ota mainly focuses on?abeg free the guy jor,you can prosper,living faith church does not want to know how.

No tither?

The white coated bishop could not see vision that someone was stealing from his school?
Oh I forgot,hes just a business man

StarUp:
Two world-class universities, four private jets, countless exotic cars and choice houses, over 40 mega churches, businesses running into billions of naira, two pastor-sons who are well-grounded-in-the-word, a swollen bank account aside properties and connections around the world... What more can a man ask for? Bishop David Olaniyi Oyedepo, I tap into your grace of being a territorial commander.

Exactly what satan promised Jesus but he overcame satan.too bad Oyedepo cannot overcome satan and his riches of this world

ArticleBeast:
What of Abraham? What of Solomon? What of Job? Some of you just type trash.

We are talking about Christians not Abraham and Solomon.abraham,job& Solomon were not Christians.o de!

therealakuko:
So in other words... the words of Jesus Christ only applies to the Pharisees and the scribes because according to you... they were the ones he was talking to. Following your line of reasoning, I can also make the argument that the statement, "Love your neighbor as yourself" doesn't apply to me... after all... I wasn't there when that commandment was given... The people who were told to love themselves should do so and leave me alone. Second of all, Jesus Christ shouldn't have quoted scriptures from the old testament when he was being tempted by the devil because he was tempted in the new testament. The commandment he made mention of to the devil, "Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God and him only shalt thou serve" applies only to the devil because that is who he was talking to. Since I no be the devil, I no get horns or tail, why should I worship the Lord and only him serve? Well, It's been nice interacting with you. Do have a nice day.

Pls read what you wrote again.does it make sense to you?

therealakuko:
Tithing is supported by Jesus Christ himself. Refer to Matt 23: 23 of the Bible. There is no cherry picking here.

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

in other words... Jesus was telling the Pharisees and scribes that while they ought to pay their tithe, (which isn't just limited to their income alone but to other possessions of theirs even those as insignificant as spices such as mint and cummin) they also ought to take into consideration more important matters of Law such as judgement, mercy and faith... In other words, there is no cherry picking. You ought not to leave one undone at the expense of the other. You ought to do both. GRACIAS...

Are you a Pharisee,my brother?are you under the law?did Jesus in mat 23:23 refer to Christians?guy,use your brain read in context don't follow what your unintelligent pastors say.smh

fuckfuckman:
I stopped taking him serious when he said Malachi was an inferior prophet

Have you done your research to know whether what he said is the truth? shallow lazy youth

CodeTemplar:
Freeze is a carnal preacher who interprets the bible like constitution.
In Mathew 23:23, Jesus clearly endorsed tithing and I wonder how Freeze manages to read carnal meaning into scriptures.

You that is spiritual,jesus endorsed tithing for who? Christians?ode!

CodeTemplar:
So what do u make of Mathew 23:23.

This one is already braindead from a lifetime brainwashing from the GOs.who was Christ refering to in matt 23:23?are you a Pharisee?are you under the law? dingbats

ednut1:
Abuse pastors but supports a fraudster. Freeze no get sense atal

Is that not Christ like?Jesus attacked the religious teachers but wined and dinned with sinners.u guys don't read d bible

alBHAGDADI:
Yeah, I'm a big time Sheeple.

If not that you have been deceived, shouldn't you know that Freeze is not doing God's work? Look at those who did God's work in the past, those whom Jesus sent to go preach the Gospel, didn't he tell them to dust their feet and leave whatever city that rejects them? If freeze is really doing God's work, he ought to have abandoned his attack on tithing by now because a word is enough for the wise. Rather, he has become a big troll in the act.

Those whom Jesus sent to go preach the gospel collected tithes from the poor,they rode on donkeys and horses with chariots and mingled with Pilate and Herod and stayed like royalty in palaces..oh,like I like said..clap for yourself!

alBHAGDADI:
Yeah, I'm a big time Sheeple.

If not that you have been deceived, shouldn't you know that Freeze is not doing God's work? Look at those who did God's work in the past, those whom Jesus sent to go preach the Gospel, didn't he tell them to dust their feet and leave whatever city that rejects them? If freeze is really doing God's work, he ought to have abandoned his attack on tithing by now because a word is enough for the wise. Rather, he has become a big troll in the act.

So it's adeboye and Oyedepo that are doing God's work..clap for your self oga.so paying of tithe is doing God's work..no wonder Nigerians are adored and we are the richest country on earth.

alBHAGDADI:
It is clearly passing him of as stupid.

He doesn't seem to know that the joke is on him. What happened to that designer whose cat inherited that wealth is exactly more of what happens to people who fail to pay their tithe. All the wealth the man was greedily keeping away from God has now passed down to a mere animal that doesn't even know what's up.

God sure has a way of collecting what belongs to him. The people in care of that cat will squander the money, and a large percent will end up in Churches because many of those people might be tithe payers. God will finally have his money back.

Big sheeple spotted!

davidodiba:
Why waste such a beautiful explanation to those who know nothing about God neither do they desire to ever know? Daddy Freeze has been sponsored to ensure the church goes into extinction and he has amassed some like mindeds. Some persons crying tithe have never paid a dime as tithe and yet they keep typing and arguing about what they may never understand....

Where is scriptures to back up the thrash you wrote here.under which priesthood do you pay tithe?jamb question ba?olodo

[quote author=davidodiba post=75197053]Why waste such a beautiful explanation to those who know nothing about God neither do they desire to ever know? Daddy Freeze has been sponsored to ensure the church goes into extinction and he has amassed some like mindeds. Some persons crying tithe have never paid a dime as tithe and yet they keep typing and arguing about what they may never understand....[/quote)
Where is scriptures to back up the thrash you wrote here.under which priesthood do you pay tithe?jamb question ba?olodo

kokomilala:
He's not correct and will never be.Matthew 23:23 is.a clear pointer that Daddy Freeze is self-willed.Malachi 3:10 can be excused-not that the Word of God can be excused-but Matthew 23:23 cannot.
He's just weeping up people in an emotional frenzy, whose tenor is that their tithes are being wasted. And that it's better they stop giving.

My friend was matt 23:23 refering to Christians or to the Pharisees and teachers of Judaism?the problem with Nigerians is our education.that is why these 'men of dogs'..use our head.are you a Pharisee?

maysimsimple:
So it's the devil that created him for him to be elusive of the spirit of God..

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You said it all, Freeze does not have the spirit of God in him at all

So,who has the spirit of God?you,adeboye or paul enenche?

Pachesky:
I'm not surprised about the comments ive read here, many people have turned to bible scholars over night and believe they have become wiser without even studying the bible in fulfilment of the scriptures of the last days are men would be lovers of their own soul and not the word..

If you have no idea about first fruits just keep quiet and let those who know its importance carry on with it.
Ill pick a worldly example. Taxes are required of every working class citizen by law. Just because the government of your country missues tax payers money meant for infrastructural developments doesn't make taxes illegal..whether you pay or not doesnt render tax paying a scam or a lie..
And when the hour comes those who failed to pay when caught would be handed their appropriate judgement depending on their level of default..

Thats how first fruits, tithes, offerings and free will giving and other requirements of God would be judged too..if you like pay or not when the hour comes we would all know who has been wise and who has been foolish..

There are fake pastors everywhere but I pray that God would not let the actions of these wolves in sheep clothings who have made many christian backslide continue to turn the hearts of others cold.

Bible scriptures supporting first fruit
Proberbs 3:9-10
Leviticus 23:10
Exodus 23:19
Deuteronomy 18:4

So all this trash without even one Christian scripture?abeg park well.

pp802:
I use to support freeze about tithing and I stopped paying tithe until he tweeted that he pays his tithes secretly while bashing pastors!

Now I pay my tithe

Listen to freeze at your own peril

You are a dunce.df tweeted that he pays his tithe?simple understanding Nigerians lack.he said he was paying a month before he did interview in 2016.and he has not paid again 2yrs plus

alBHAGDADI:
Jesus collected tithe from Abraham, except you want to tell me you didn't read the article.

Pastors are spiritual Levites. What did the Levites do in those days? Their duty was to be in God's house always and care for it and also the people. Compare that to Pastors of today, is it not the same thing they do? Before Jesus came to earth, he received tithe from Abraham. He came to earth and didn't demand tithe because the people didn't know him like their father Abraham did.

John 1:11
He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

You expect people who rejected Him as Messiah and killed him to pay tithe to him when they didn't understand him to be the High Priest of the Most High God? When he told them that he existed before Abraham, they picked up stones to stone him. How do you think they would have reacted if he had told them to pay tithe to him just as their father Abraham did? That's why Jesus focused on the message of salvation till his death, burial and resurrection after which true Christians now understood that he has now become the High Priest in a new priesthood. If he collected tithe from Abraham as Melchizedek the High Priest, what makes you think he has changed and won't collect tithe from we that are Abraham's children through faith? Is Jesus no longer the same yesterday, today and forever? The tithe he collects is what is being used to propagate the gospel. His ministers get paid from it else they abandoned their duty and go fend for themselves. Or is it the chicken change offering you guys donate that you want to use to run a church? You all keep mentioning freewill giving, how many of you have done that in the last six months?

If your claim is that they lay so much emphasis on tithe, then you just have been attending a money-driven church. It's your fault, not tithing's.

Have you told them that Levites belonged to a specific bloodline of Levi?why are you twisting scriptures like this.levites had no inheritance or property..but pastors do.who said pastors are spiritual Levites ,where do you get that from?was paul a spiritual Levite?paul was a Pharisee and later became a tent maker to sustain himself and also preach free of charge.this story you spun up there is from your fertile imaginations and assumptions.no Nigerian is qualified to receive tithes whether through the levitical or Melchizedek priesthood.Christians do not need to follow Jewish laws and you cannot justify tithing through Melchizedek either.stop misleading Gods children to hell.salvation is free,Gods blessing is free even for the non Christians.Nigeria is the poverty capital of the world and we have been paying tithe to the devil and guess what,thier names appear in Forbes.

amazon14:
Ameeeeen. Thanks a million times. I will not fail God from now onward.
May your Christmas be filled with joy and happiness

Bro sorry,this guy just put you back under darkness.paying tithe is not just a sin but a curse.anytime you pay tithe you put your self back under the law that Christ came to fulfill.God does not need your money.he owns everything that is why Jesus said if you give the poor you give to him.he never said if you give to the temple or pastors.God is not broke,he does not need your money..only scammers need your money.. please brother think.paying tithe means Christ died for nothing

Freeze is a scammer..a scammer that doesn't want your money but your pastors are the good guys,they need your money..claps for yourself .indeed common sense is not common.
Are you expecting the bad guys to look bad?

alBHAGDADI:
The warning against sleeping with your sister was not also a universal warning, so Christians are not under any obligation to obey it. Do you now understand?

Says who? You?



What you are saying is that every thing about the law has been throwaway. That's why I keep advising you to go and sleep with your sister. Etc means sleeping with your father's wife, your mother and the likes. Were you expecting me to have the time to start listing everything?



Do you also have to wait for tithing to be mentioned before you know it was never abolished? Same way sleeping with one's sister was never mentioned as wrong in the new testament but we know it's wrong, is the same way tithing not emphasized on in the same book should also make us know it hasn't been discarded.




Who are you to state where tithing falls? Stop making baseless statement without prove. Was there circumcission when Abraham tithed?

Don't you think since the Bible never condemned tithing, even Jesus, then Man should not condemn it?



Sorry dude, Abraham was not a Jew but a friend of God. He tithed not according to any Jewish law. Even when Jacob promised to tithe, it wasn't according to any Jewish law. Why do you condemn and attack those who chose to tithe? Where is your biblical backing? Why are you saying tithing has ended when God never said such? He initiated it and should be the only one to end it. Since he hasn't, who are you to end it for him?

You this coconut head,i have explained to you that Abram gave a tithe not Abraham.i think you are just being mischievous.nobody is in the order of Melchizedek except Christ and Christ did not collect tithe.barnabas a Levite also contributed to the collection of the saints,he did not collect tithe.a Yoruba man in Nigeria will claim to be a Levite or will want to collect under the order of Melchizedek when he has beginning and end.the poor is the representation of God on earth not any pastor ie in the new covenant

Any pastor collecting tithes is a liar and a thief.all who pay tithes are under a curse.

alBHAGDADI:
@ at the end of three years. Does that sound like a monthly thing to you?

So which one was done monthly in d Bible?

OkCornel:
Per Matthew 23 v 23, note! Jesus approved of tithing in line with the requirements of the Mosaic Law.

Why would Jesus condemn tithing especially when he had not fulfilled the requirements of the Mosaic Law?

Are you also aware that Matthew 23 v 23 is approving the entirety (weightier and non-weightier) of the Mosaic Law (Judaism)?

Where was tithing practiced by the early Christians after the death and resurrection of Jesus?

Please school them.they have been taught in error

alBHAGDADI:
Jesus is still the high priest collecting tithe. Of he was Melchizedek who collected tithe from Abraham, what makes you think he still being Melchizedek has changed to the point that he won't collect from the children of Abraham?

Yes, we are all priests, but the church has offices which doesn't belong to everybody. Those in charge of those offices receive the tithe on behalf of the most high priest and do with it what he tells them to.

You said Abraham didn't tithe of his wealth. Was the spoila of war he got not his wealth? What you liars are saying is that the Bible was wrong to have said that Abraham tithed to Melchizedek since you say it wasn't his wealth. Should we believe you or the Bible that said Abraham gave tithe?You can choose to give out the rest of your earnings like Abraham, it's your choice. Abraham did and got bountifully blessed.

Where you expecting Jesus to collect tithe from his disciples who are his spiritual levitie priest?

What do you need the record of Jacob fulfilling a vow for?

Lol..you are totally ignorant.maybe you are not.you are just doing the bidding of your master,mammon

seunmsg:
I read the OP and didn’t see where you quoted from the Bible to support your above claim. Jesus Christ is not Melchizedek. Melchizedek was referred to as a priest in the order of Jesus and not Jesus.

There is no controversy as to who Jesus Christ is in the New Testament, show us where he received tithe from his followers during the period of his ministeration on earth. If you can’t find any, show us where any of his disciples collected tithe from their followers.

While at it, please tell us who Jacob paid his tithe to. We really need to know to avoid all these controversies.

Finally, give us just one example where people paid monetary tithe on weekly/monthly basis in the Bible.

On point.

alBHAGDADI:
Stop being stubbornly blind. Read the passage again. Look at the titles given to Melchizedek, are they not also the titles of Jesus Christ? If Melchizedek has no beginning nor end, then what you are saying is that he is someone like Jesus who has no beginning not end of days. Then where is he, show me?

Hebrews 7:1-4
1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;
2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;
3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.
4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils

I read the long epistle there and I know you pastors will try to twist and twist scriptures to justify tithing for Christians.preachers are known to be very rich how is it that it's your turn that things will change?lol.
You say tithing predates the law.. I laugh in Greek.you see why the Bible mentioned money as a God.
Jesus Christ was in the order of Melchizedek he had no beginning and end.for you to qualify to collect tithes you should also have no beginning and no end like Melchizedek or Jesus.there is only one high priest in
Christianity and that is jesus.we are all priests under his royal priesthood so who tithes to who?jesus our high priest even being superior to Melchizedek did not collect tithe and a Nigerian wants to collect on his behalf..lol.Abraham did not tithe from his wealth and when he gave (not pay) tithe to Melchizedek,he returned the remaining 90% to the king of Sodom.so since you want to follow Abraham,kukuma be returning 90% of your salary to your employer's.ode! Melchizedek gave Abraham bread and wine and then Abraham tithed to him.jesus gave his deciples bread and wine but yet did not collect tithe.notice,abraham did not do the tithe,ABRAM did.something he did before His covenant with God that is what Nigerians want to be doing.why not kukuma do what paul was doing when he was SAUL.ode! jacob made a vow to give a tenth,what if it was a fifth?that's a vow my friend and there is no record that he fulfilled that vow furthermore,there were no priest then so how did he tithe? think.Ode!.tell the God of this world that sent you.2cor 4:4...ur argument is dead on arrival

Omooba77:
We are in the era of social media that tells us most time what we want to hear and not the Truth.

For some time now, Daddy Freeze has been most time against the church leaders in Nigeria, especially payment of tithes.

I was shocked to the marrow fews days back I read daddy Freeze said he was paying tithes up till a month ago.

Yet all the while he was shouting against it and many of us have bought into the erroneus teaching.

It reminded me of the story in1 Kings 13 of an old prophet that deceived a young prophet to die; but compelled his children to bury him in the grave of the young prophet because everything he said will come to pass.

A man of God preached one day and that message is helping me till now. He said some people will commit sin outside and when they get to the closet of their room; they will confess and yet some people will die in this ignorance and go to hell, because they will continue to fan the ember; unknown to them the originator has made 360 degree u turn.

Dont follow the multitude to do evil.

I hope we will all learn from Daddy Freeze's story and work out our salvation with fear and trembling.
Hve a glorious end to 2018!

You are a goat!the problem with Nigerians is the limited education and understanding they have.daddy freeze said the he was still paying tithe a month before he was interviewed on lindaikeji tv in 2016..he did another interview in 2018 in Linda ikeji tv where he spoke about still paying a month before his interview in 2016.go to YouTube and watch it.slowpoke!