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Christianity EtcRe: Daddy Freeze Attacks Pastor Oladiyun Over Tithes Payment by genkins(m): 5:16pm On Mar 29, 2019
CodeTemplar:
So what do u make of Mathew 23:23.
This one is already braindead from a lifetime brainwashing from the GOs.who was Christ refering to in matt 23:23?are you a Pharisee?are you under the law? dingbats
CelebritiesRe: "Rentals Dont Come With Two Keys" Daddy Freeze Support Huspuppi by genkins(m): 6:45am On Mar 08, 2019
ednut1:
Abuse pastors but supports a fraudster. Freeze no get sense atal
Is that not Christ like?Jesus attacked the religious teachers but wined and dinned with sinners.u guys don't read d bible
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze Reacts After Late Fashion Designer, Karl Leave $200m Fortune To Cat by genkins(m): 3:00pm On Feb 22, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
Yeah, I'm a big time Sheeple.

If not that you have been deceived, shouldn't you know that Freeze is not doing God's work? Look at those who did God's work in the past, those whom Jesus sent to go preach the Gospel, didn't he tell them to dust their feet and leave whatever city that rejects them? If freeze is really doing God's work, he ought to have abandoned his attack on tithing by now because a word is enough for the wise. Rather, he has become a big troll in the act.
Those whom Jesus sent to go preach the gospel collected tithes from the poor,they rode on donkeys and horses with chariots and mingled with Pilate and Herod and stayed like royalty in palaces..oh,like I like said..clap for yourself!
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze Reacts After Late Fashion Designer, Karl Leave $200m Fortune To Cat by genkins(m): 2:49pm On Feb 22, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
Yeah, I'm a big time Sheeple.

If not that you have been deceived, shouldn't you know that Freeze is not doing God's work? Look at those who did God's work in the past, those whom Jesus sent to go preach the Gospel, didn't he tell them to dust their feet and leave whatever city that rejects them? If freeze is really doing God's work, he ought to have abandoned his attack on tithing by now because a word is enough for the wise. Rather, he has become a big troll in the act.
So it's adeboye and Oyedepo that are doing God's work..clap for your self oga.so paying of tithe is doing God's work..no wonder Nigerians are adored and we are the richest country on earth.
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze Reacts After Late Fashion Designer, Karl Leave $200m Fortune To Cat by genkins(m): 2:27pm On Feb 22, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
It is clearly passing him of as stupid.

He doesn't seem to know that the joke is on him. What happened to that designer whose cat inherited that wealth is exactly more of what happens to people who fail to pay their tithe. All the wealth the man was greedily keeping away from God has now passed down to a mere animal that doesn't even know what's up.

God sure has a way of collecting what belongs to him. The people in care of that cat will squander the money, and a large percent will end up in Churches because many of those people might be tithe payers. God will finally have his money back.
Big sheeple spotted!
Christianity EtcRe: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by genkins(m): 2:51pm On Jan 28, 2019
davidodiba:
Why waste such a beautiful explanation to those who know nothing about God neither do they desire to ever know? Daddy Freeze has been sponsored to ensure the church goes into extinction and he has amassed some like mindeds. Some persons crying tithe have never paid a dime as tithe and yet they keep typing and arguing about what they may never understand....
Where is scriptures to back up the thrash you wrote here.under which priesthood do you pay tithe?jamb question ba?olodo
Christianity EtcRe: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by genkins(m): 2:50pm On Jan 28, 2019
[quote author=davidodiba post=75197053]Why waste such a beautiful explanation to those who know nothing about God neither do they desire to ever know? Daddy Freeze has been sponsored to ensure the church goes into extinction and he has amassed some like mindeds. Some persons crying tithe have never paid a dime as tithe and yet they keep typing and arguing about what they may never understand....[/quote)
Where is scriptures to back up the thrash you wrote here.under which priesthood do you pay tithe?jamb question ba?olodo
Christianity EtcRe: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by genkins(m): 2:45pm On Jan 28, 2019
kokomilala:
He's not correct and will never be.Matthew 23:23 is.a clear pointer that Daddy Freeze is self-willed.Malachi 3:10 can be excused-not that the Word of God can be excused-but Matthew 23:23 cannot.
He's just weeping up people in an emotional frenzy, whose tenor is that their tithes are being wasted. And that it's better they stop giving.
My friend was matt 23:23 refering to Christians or to the Pharisees and teachers of Judaism?the problem with Nigerians is our education.that is why these 'men of dogs'..use our head.are you a Pharisee?
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze Reacts To Falz Mother, Funmi Falana, Saying He Doesn't Go To Church by genkins(m): 8:38am On Jan 20, 2019
maysimsimple:
So it's the devil that created him for him to be elusive of the spirit of God.. embarassed

uote author=samista post=74935081]
You said it all, Freeze does not have the spirit of God in him at all
So,who has the spirit of God?you,adeboye or paul enenche?
Christianity EtcRe: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by genkins(m): 7:09am On Jan 01, 2019
Pachesky:
I'm not surprised about the comments ive read here, many people have turned to bible scholars over night and believe they have become wiser without even studying the bible in fulfilment of the scriptures of the last days are men would be lovers of their own soul and not the word..

If you have no idea about first fruits just keep quiet and let those who know its importance carry on with it.
Ill pick a worldly example. Taxes are required of every working class citizen by law. Just because the government of your country missues tax payers money meant for infrastructural developments doesn't make taxes illegal..whether you pay or not doesnt render tax paying a scam or a lie..
And when the hour comes those who failed to pay when caught would be handed their appropriate judgement depending on their level of default..

Thats how first fruits, tithes, offerings and free will giving and other requirements of God would be judged too..if you like pay or not when the hour comes we would all know who has been wise and who has been foolish..

There are fake pastors everywhere but I pray that God would not let the actions of these wolves in sheep clothings who have made many christian backslide continue to turn the hearts of others cold.

Bible scriptures supporting first fruit
Proberbs 3:9-10
Leviticus 23:10
Exodus 23:19
Deuteronomy 18:4
So all this trash without even one Christian scripture?abeg park well.
Christianity EtcRe: Daddy Freeze Replies Nairalander Who Said Jesus Christ Approved Tithing by genkins(m): 11:53am On Dec 18, 2018
pp802:
I use to support freeze about tithing and I stopped paying tithe until he tweeted that he pays his tithes secretly while bashing pastors!

Now I pay my tithe

Listen to freeze at your own peril
You are a dunce.df tweeted that he pays his tithe?simple understanding Nigerians lack.he said he was paying a month before he did interview in 2016.and he has not paid again 2yrs plus
Christianity EtcRe: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by genkins(m): 7:53am On Dec 17, 2018
alBHAGDADI:
Jesus collected tithe from Abraham, except you want to tell me you didn't read the article.

Pastors are spiritual Levites. What did the Levites do in those days? Their duty was to be in God's house always and care for it and also the people. Compare that to Pastors of today, is it not the same thing they do? Before Jesus came to earth, he received tithe from Abraham. He came to earth and didn't demand tithe because the people didn't know him like their father Abraham did.

John 1:11
He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

You expect people who rejected Him as Messiah and killed him to pay tithe to him when they didn't understand him to be the High Priest of the Most High God? When he told them that he existed before Abraham, they picked up stones to stone him. How do you think they would have reacted if he had told them to pay tithe to him just as their father Abraham did? That's why Jesus focused on the message of salvation till his death, burial and resurrection after which true Christians now understood that he has now become the High Priest in a new priesthood. If he collected tithe from Abraham as Melchizedek the High Priest, what makes you think he has changed and won't collect tithe from we that are Abraham's children through faith? Is Jesus no longer the same yesterday, today and forever? The tithe he collects is what is being used to propagate the gospel. His ministers get paid from it else they abandoned their duty and go fend for themselves. Or is it the chicken change offering you guys donate that you want to use to run a church? You all keep mentioning freewill giving, how many of you have done that in the last six months?

If your claim is that they lay so much emphasis on tithe, then you just have been attending a money-driven church. It's your fault, not tithing's.
Have you told them that Levites belonged to a specific bloodline of Levi?why are you twisting scriptures like this.levites had no inheritance or property..but pastors do.who said pastors are spiritual Levites ,where do you get that from?was paul a spiritual Levite?paul was a Pharisee and later became a tent maker to sustain himself and also preach free of charge.this story you spun up there is from your fertile imaginations and assumptions.no Nigerian is qualified to receive tithes whether through the levitical or Melchizedek priesthood.Christians do not need to follow Jewish laws and you cannot justify tithing through Melchizedek either.stop misleading Gods children to hell.salvation is free,Gods blessing is free even for the non Christians.Nigeria is the poverty capital of the world and we have been paying tithe to the devil and guess what,thier names appear in Forbes.
Christianity EtcRe: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by genkins(m): 7:34am On Dec 17, 2018
amazon14:
Ameeeeen. Thanks a million times. I will not fail God from now onward.
May your Christmas be filled with joy and happiness
Bro sorry,this guy just put you back under darkness.paying tithe is not just a sin but a curse.anytime you pay tithe you put your self back under the law that Christ came to fulfill.God does not need your money.he owns everything that is why Jesus said if you give the poor you give to him.he never said if you give to the temple or pastors.God is not broke,he does not need your money..only scammers need your money.. please brother think.paying tithe means Christ died for nothing
Christianity EtcRe: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by genkins(m): 7:32am On Dec 17, 2018
Freeze is a scammer..a scammer that doesn't want your money but your pastors are the good guys,they need your money..claps for yourself .indeed common sense is not common.
Are you expecting the bad guys to look bad?
Christianity EtcRe: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by genkins(m): 7:25am On Dec 17, 2018
alBHAGDADI:
The warning against sleeping with your sister was not also a universal warning, so Christians are not under any obligation to obey it. Do you now understand?

Says who? You?



What you are saying is that every thing about the law has been throwaway. That's why I keep advising you to go and sleep with your sister. Etc means sleeping with your father's wife, your mother and the likes. Were you expecting me to have the time to start listing everything?



Do you also have to wait for tithing to be mentioned before you know it was never abolished? Same way sleeping with one's sister was never mentioned as wrong in the new testament but we know it's wrong, is the same way tithing not emphasized on in the same book should also make us know it hasn't been discarded.




Who are you to state where tithing falls? Stop making baseless statement without prove. Was there circumcission when Abraham tithed?

Don't you think since the Bible never condemned tithing, even Jesus, then Man should not condemn it?



Sorry dude, Abraham was not a Jew but a friend of God. He tithed not according to any Jewish law. Even when Jacob promised to tithe, it wasn't according to any Jewish law. Why do you condemn and attack those who chose to tithe? Where is your biblical backing? Why are you saying tithing has ended when God never said such? He initiated it and should be the only one to end it. Since he hasn't, who are you to end it for him?
You this coconut head,i have explained to you that Abram gave a tithe not Abraham.i think you are just being mischievous.nobody is in the order of Melchizedek except Christ and Christ did not collect tithe.barnabas a Levite also contributed to the collection of the saints,he did not collect tithe.a Yoruba man in Nigeria will claim to be a Levite or will want to collect under the order of Melchizedek when he has beginning and end.the poor is the representation of God on earth not any pastor ie in the new covenant
Christianity EtcRe: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by genkins(m): 7:33pm On Dec 16, 2018
Any pastor collecting tithes is a liar and a thief.all who pay tithes are under a curse.
Christianity EtcRe: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by genkins(m): 7:24pm On Dec 16, 2018
alBHAGDADI:
@ at the end of three years. Does that sound like a monthly thing to you?
So which one was done monthly in d Bible?
Christianity EtcRe: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by genkins(m): 2:31pm On Dec 16, 2018
OkCornel:
Per Matthew 23 v 23, note! Jesus approved of tithing in line with the requirements of the Mosaic Law.

Why would Jesus condemn tithing especially when he had not fulfilled the requirements of the Mosaic Law?

Are you also aware that Matthew 23 v 23 is approving the entirety (weightier and non-weightier) of the Mosaic Law (Judaism)?

Where was tithing practiced by the early Christians after the death and resurrection of Jesus?
Please school them.they have been taught in error
Christianity EtcRe: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by genkins(m): 9:56am On Dec 16, 2018
alBHAGDADI:
Jesus is still the high priest collecting tithe. Of he was Melchizedek who collected tithe from Abraham, what makes you think he still being Melchizedek has changed to the point that he won't collect from the children of Abraham?

Yes, we are all priests, but the church has offices which doesn't belong to everybody. Those in charge of those offices receive the tithe on behalf of the most high priest and do with it what he tells them to.

You said Abraham didn't tithe of his wealth. Was the spoila of war he got not his wealth? What you liars are saying is that the Bible was wrong to have said that Abraham tithed to Melchizedek since you say it wasn't his wealth. Should we believe you or the Bible that said Abraham gave tithe?You can choose to give out the rest of your earnings like Abraham, it's your choice. Abraham did and got bountifully blessed.

Where you expecting Jesus to collect tithe from his disciples who are his spiritual levitie priest?

What do you need the record of Jacob fulfilling a vow for?
Lol..you are totally ignorant.maybe you are not.you are just doing the bidding of your master,mammon
Christianity EtcRe: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by genkins(m): 9:32am On Dec 16, 2018
seunmsg:
I read the OP and didn’t see where you quoted from the Bible to support your above claim. Jesus Christ is not Melchizedek. Melchizedek was referred to as a priest in the order of Jesus and not Jesus.

There is no controversy as to who Jesus Christ is in the New Testament, show us where he received tithe from his followers during the period of his ministeration on earth. If you can’t find any, show us where any of his disciples collected tithe from their followers.

While at it, please tell us who Jacob paid his tithe to. We really need to know to avoid all these controversies.

Finally, give us just one example where people paid monetary tithe on weekly/monthly basis in the Bible.
On point.
Christianity EtcRe: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by genkins(m): 9:27am On Dec 16, 2018
alBHAGDADI:
Stop being stubbornly blind. Read the passage again. Look at the titles given to Melchizedek, are they not also the titles of Jesus Christ? If Melchizedek has no beginning nor end, then what you are saying is that he is someone like Jesus who has no beginning not end of days. Then where is he, show me?

Hebrews 7:1-4
1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;
2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;
3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.
4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils
I read the long epistle there and I know you pastors will try to twist and twist scriptures to justify tithing for Christians.preachers are known to be very rich how is it that it's your turn that things will change?lol.
You say tithing predates the law.. I laugh in Greek.you see why the Bible mentioned money as a God.
Jesus Christ was in the order of Melchizedek he had no beginning and end.for you to qualify to collect tithes you should also have no beginning and no end like Melchizedek or Jesus.there is only one high priest in
Christianity and that is jesus.we are all priests under his royal priesthood so who tithes to who?jesus our high priest even being superior to Melchizedek did not collect tithe and a Nigerian wants to collect on his behalf..lol.Abraham did not tithe from his wealth and when he gave (not pay) tithe to Melchizedek,he returned the remaining 90% to the king of Sodom.so since you want to follow Abraham,kukuma be returning 90% of your salary to your employer's.ode! Melchizedek gave Abraham bread and wine and then Abraham tithed to him.jesus gave his deciples bread and wine but yet did not collect tithe.notice,abraham did not do the tithe,ABRAM did.something he did before His covenant with God that is what Nigerians want to be doing.why not kukuma do what paul was doing when he was SAUL.ode! jacob made a vow to give a tenth,what if it was a fifth?that's a vow my friend and there is no record that he fulfilled that vow furthermore,there were no priest then so how did he tithe? think.Ode!.tell the God of this world that sent you.2cor 4:4...ur argument is dead on arrival
Christianity EtcRe: Daddy Freeze: Don't Be Deceived By Hypocrisy Of Men! By Omooba77 by genkins(m): 10:04am On Dec 09, 2018
Omooba77:
We are in the era of social media that tells us most time what we want to hear and not the Truth.

For some time now, Daddy Freeze has been most time against the church leaders in Nigeria, especially payment of tithes.

I was shocked to the marrow fews days back I read daddy Freeze said he was paying tithes up till a month ago.

Yet all the while he was shouting against it and many of us have bought into the erroneus teaching.

It reminded me of the story in1 Kings 13 of an old prophet that deceived a young prophet to die; but compelled his children to bury him in the grave of the young prophet because everything he said will come to pass.

A man of God preached one day and that message is helping me till now. He said some people will commit sin outside and when they get to the closet of their room; they will confess and yet some people will die in this ignorance and go to hell, because they will continue to fan the ember; unknown to them the originator has made 360 degree u turn.

Dont follow the multitude to do evil.

I hope we will all learn from Daddy Freeze's story and work out our salvation with fear and trembling.
Hve a glorious end to 2018!
You are a goat!the problem with Nigerians is the limited education and understanding they have.daddy freeze said the he was still paying tithe a month before he was interviewed on lindaikeji tv in 2016..he did another interview in 2018 in Linda ikeji tv where he spoke about still paying a month before his interview in 2016.go to YouTube and watch it.slowpoke!
CelebritiesRe: 'May God Punish You' - Daddy Freeze Tells Woman Who Cautioned Him Over Shiloh by genkins(m): 2:04pm On Dec 08, 2018
pressplay411:
You shouldn't just pick a verse without reading the whole chapter when you want adequate knowledge.
In the book of Jeremiah, chapter 7 clearly God was addressing the worshipping of the temple/church as an idol. Jeremiah 7:3-4
He was emphasizing that true worship is not the church but Godliness, the expression of good judgement, standing for the liberation of the oppressed, not committing evil, etc Jeremiah 5-11

Finally the answer to your question lies in John 4:24
God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.

Now this didn't stop Jesus from preaching at the synagogue. He wasn't telling people to abandon churches.
He came to teach us that we can carry the church every where because we are now the church.

To conclude worshiping God is a personal journey of faith but it is not a solo drill. We need each other.
We are called to be workers in His ministry.
We are to find our place in the church, sharpen one another and continue to grow in Godliness through Christ-ikeness.

And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.
Hebrews 10:24-25
All this long rubbish but yet you cannot answer a simple question.did God destroy Shiloh yes or no
Christianity EtcRe: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by genkins(m): 4:51pm On Dec 06, 2018
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by genkins(m): 3:08pm
Boboye4slim:
1 Timothy 5:17-18 ESV /
Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, [s]especially those who labor in preaching and teaching.For the Scripture says, “You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain,” and, “The laborer deserves his wages.”

Point 1
This scripture does not say you should be giving pastors all your money.it does not say if you give pastors that you give to God.it only posits that those working for the church deserve a little payment for thier service and offcourse the elders deserve a little more.do you earn the same with your company manager?




Matthew 10:41-42

The one who receives a prophet because he is a prophet will receive a prophet's reward, and the one who receives a righteous person because he is a righteous person will receive a righteous person's reward. And whoever gives one of these little ones even a cup of cold water because he is a disciple, truly, I say to you, he will by no means lose his reward.”

Point 2
This verse says nothing about financial or earthly reward. It also doesn't state that you should be giving money to the prophet.it says if you receive,give little as water(food) for nourishment.God or his disciples won't need money but
Accommodation or food to have strength to continue the gospel.


1 Corinthians 9:11 ESV /

If we have sown spiritual things among you, is it too much if we reap material things from you?

Point 3
Again this verse validates what I said in the first point.it does not say if pastors reap material things from you then you are giving it to God.Again if you read further down paul said he will rather die than preach and collect money.


Malachi 3:10 ESV /m

Bring the full tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. And thereby put me to the test, says the Lord of hosts, if I will not open the windows of heaven for you and pour down for you a blessing until there is no more need.

Point 4

Old covenant verse.not relevant for Christians


1 Corinthians 16:2 ESV /

On the first day of every week, each of you is to put something aside and store it up, as he may prosper, so that there will be no collecting when I come.

Point 5
This talks about donating for the upkeep of the saints..ie other brethren in service in some town not to one pastor.again it does not say if you contribute that it is to God.


Ezekiel 44:30 ESV

And the first of all the firstfruits of all kinds, and every offering of all kinds from all your offerings, shall belong to the priests. You shall also give to the priests the first of your dough, that a blessing may rest on your house.

Point 6
Old covenant scripture not relevant for Christians


2 Corinthians 9:7 ESV

Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

Point 7
If you read down to verse 9 in context.you will see it talks about giving to the poor not pastor.


Romans 12:8 ESV /

The one who exhorts, in his exhortation; the one who contributes, in generosity; the one who leads, with zeal; the one who does acts of mercy, with cheerfulness.

Point 8
Again this verse has nothing to do with giving to a pastor.it talks about the gift of giving which everyone cannot have.giving to the poor or maybe to meet any specific need.

Mark 12:41-44 ESV /

And he sat down opposite the treasury and watched the people putting money into the offering box. Many rich people put in large sums. And a poor widow came and put in two small copper coins, which make a penny. And he called his disciples to him and said to them, “Truly, I say to you, this poor widow has put in more than all those who are contributing to the offering box. For they all contributed out of their abundance, but she out of her poverty has put in everything she had, all she had to live on.”

Point 9
This was before Christ destroyed the physical temple.you could worship God in the flesh(money or burnt sacrifice)but after the cross you can only worship him in spirit and in truth.if you read further Jesus said not one stone of that temple where the widow dropped her last two mites will be left standing.any temple that takes a widows last two mite instead of giving the widow,christ brought it down at the cross.

Recalibrate,you need sometime to come back to normalcy.i know.
Christianity EtcRe: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by genkins(m): 4:42pm On Dec 06, 2018
Boboye4slim:
Mumu your problem is your baseless assumptions. No one taught me to give to pastors. It’s my money and no one can coerce me physically or psychologically to give to anyone. No pastor, no preacher, no healer, not even an homeless or needy person can coerce me to help if I don’t want to. It’s out of my freewill. I deem it fit to. I do what I do cus I want to. Try your pseudo wisdom on someone else
I won't reduce myself to throwing insults like you.i just debunked everything you quoted up there.give your money to the poor.then you can make heaven.matt 25:31-46.dont be rude,listen and learn,take corrections.you can only worship God in truth and spirit.know the truth.read the Bible by yourself leave those pastors,they are after your money.you can support a church,the Bible is not against that but don't think there is a blessing attached to it.dont expect reward here on earth but in heaven.your pastors cannot tell you this because they need to to believed the opposite and thus make money from your kind.cheers
Christianity EtcRe: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by genkins(m): 3:08pm On Dec 06, 2018
Boboye4slim:
1 Timothy 5:17-18 ESV /
Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, [s]especially those who labor in preaching and teaching.For the Scripture says, “You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain,” and, “The laborer deserves his wages.”

Point 1
This scripture does not say you should be giving pastors all your money.it does not say if you give pastors that you give to God.it only posits that those working for the church deserve a little payment for thier service and offcourse the elders deserve a little more.do you earn the same with your company manager?




Matthew 10:41-42

The one who receives a prophet because he is a prophet will receive a prophet's reward, and the one who receives a righteous person because he is a righteous person will receive a righteous person's reward. And whoever gives one of these little ones even a cup of cold water because he is a disciple, truly, I say to you, he will by no means lose his reward.”

Point 2
This verse says nothing about financial or earthly reward. It also doesn't state that you should be giving money to the prophet.it says if you receive,give little as water(food) for nourishment.God or his disciples won't need money but
Accommodation or food to have strength to continue the gospel.


1 Corinthians 9:11 ESV /

If we have sown spiritual things among you, is it too much if we reap material things from you?

Point 3
Again this verse validates what I said in the first point.it does not say if pastors reap material things from you then you are giving it to God.Again if you read further down paul said he will rather die than preach and collect money.


Malachi 3:10 ESV /m

Bring the full tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. And thereby put me to the test, says the Lord of hosts, if I will not open the windows of heaven for you and pour down for you a blessing until there is no more need.

Point 4

Old covenant verse.not relevant for Christians


1 Corinthians 16:2 ESV /

On the first day of every week, each of you is to put something aside and store it up, as he may prosper, so that there will be no collecting when I come.

Point 5
This talks about donating for the upkeep of the saints..ie other brethren in service in some town not to one pastor.again it does not say if you contribute that it is to God.


Ezekiel 44:30 ESV

And the first of all the firstfruits of all kinds, and every offering of all kinds from all your offerings, shall belong to the priests. You shall also give to the priests the first of your dough, that a blessing may rest on your house.

Point 6
Old covenant scripture not relevant for Christians


2 Corinthians 9:7 ESV

Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

Point 7
If you read down to verse 9 in context.you will see it talks about giving to the poor not pastor.


Romans 12:8 ESV /

The one who exhorts, in his exhortation; the one who contributes, in generosity; the one who leads, with zeal; the one who does acts of mercy, with cheerfulness.

Point 8
Again this verse has nothing to do with giving to a pastor.it talks about the gift of giving which everyone cannot have.giving to the poor or maybe to meet any specific need.

Mark 12:41-44 ESV /

And he sat down opposite the treasury and watched the people putting money into the offering box. Many rich people put in large sums. And a poor widow came and put in two small copper coins, which make a penny. And he called his disciples to him and said to them, “Truly, I say to you, this poor widow has put in more than all those who are contributing to the offering box. For they all contributed out of their abundance, but she out of her poverty has put in everything she had, all she had to live on.”

Point 9
This was before Christ destroyed the physical temple.you could worship God in the flesh(money or burnt sacrifice)but after the cross you can only worship him in spirit and in truth.if you read further Jesus said not one stone of that temple where the widow dropped her last two mites will be left standing.any temple that takes a widows last two mite instead of giving the widow,christ brought it down at the cross.
My brother or sister I don't blame you.those that taught you are very greedy people.they gave you this scripture s to justify that you continue to give them money.like I said ,you cannot worship God with money.God doesn't need your money.the poor do.not your pastors.christianity teaches contentment.your pastors can be paid a stipend and so are church workers.but they can also be like paul and earn a crown in heaven by preaching without charge.paul said imitate me as I imitate Christ.the only way you can give to God is in Mathew 25 31-46.your pastors pretend they do not know.shalom.read my points in your quote to get understanding
Christianity EtcRe: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by genkins(m): 12:01pm On Dec 06, 2018
[quote author=obailala post=73596655]@Op,

There's nothing wrong with giving to the church of God. Oh yes, God is a spirit and doesnt need your physical money; but what God needs is your faith! God's hand can be moved in your life when he sees you do something difficult (a sacrifice) to gain his attention.

When God asked Abram to sacrifice Issac as a burnt offering, of course God isnt a cannibal so he wasnt going to come down and eat Isaac, he didnt need Isaac for anything. Likewise when God asks for animal sacrifices in the old testament, he doesnt come down to eat the lamb the people sacrifice, God doesnt eat or need your lamb meat. Also, when we fast to support our prayers, of course God doesnt come down and eat the food which we didnt eat, neither does He take pleasure in seeing you go hungry. But in all these things, God is simply moved when we deprive ourselves of something valuable to us in order to gain his attention. Depriving ourselves of something valuable or subjecting ourselves to distress is called 'sacrifice' if we do it to gain God's attention.

This isnt even restricted to God. Even juju spirits that ask for sacrifices in shrines for a native doctor to perform a charm, the juju spirits dont come down to eat the white spotless male chicken you bring. All the juju wants is for you to make an effort at something difficult, to deprive yourself of something valuable. At the end, it's the chief priest and his family that eats the chicken meat, but the juju god has seen your effort in providing such a difficult requirement (sacrifice) and that is the price you have to pay for the juju to grant your wishes.

So in essence, just the same way humans go on hunger strike when protesting and trying to gain attention of govt or whoever, that's the same way Christians fast or deprive themselves of money to gain God's attention. Both cases are called 'sacrifice'; but yeah, there is no doubt that the new generation religious movements have taken the money drive to a ridiculous level which even God can never be pleased with. It even gets worse when most churches now preach that giving to God must entail giving money to a church.[/
Pagan Christian.smh
Christianity EtcRe: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by genkins(m): 11:59am On Dec 06, 2018
Boboye4slim:
. Read 1 cor 9: 14
Did that verse say if you give money to pastors that you give it to God?
Christianity EtcRe: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by genkins(m): 11:52am On Dec 06, 2018
orlymat:
READ THIS O YE FOOLS!!!.

Mark 12:41 And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much. 12:42 And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing. 12:43 And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury"

JESUS DID NOT TAKE PITY ON THIS POOR WIDOW AND ASK HER TO TAKE BACK HER MONEY BECAUSE HE KNEW THAT WAS THE ONLY CHANNEL TO GET OUT OF HER PREDICAMENT
slowpoke!if you read further you will see where Jesus told his disciples that the temple would be destroyed.any temple that takes the last two mites of a widow will be destroyed.ur pastors don't tell you that.why would they.?
Christianity EtcRe: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by genkins(m): 10:11am On Dec 06, 2018
BENITAPUSSY:
Op,oyedepo already told ur about ur type,jealousy is killing u gradually.





If we cannot gv to Jesus/God work, should we give to mhd?







You are one of the lazy youth,in this case you are a pained oldman. grin
Show me one Christian scripture that says giving to a 'man of 'god' or for church work is giving to God.ode!
Christianity EtcRe: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by genkins(m): 10:07am On Dec 06, 2018
easynetsms:
I want to ask a question, when Solomon scarified 1000 cows for God was it scam?

When Abel sacrificed the biggest animals in his farm was it scam?

Why are we always attacking the church... Do the right thing and leave d rest for God


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You guys like this old covenant things.was Solomon a Christian?why not cite example of how Christ or his apostles sacrificed and ask if it is a scam.ode!
Christianity EtcRe: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by genkins(m): 8:44am On Dec 06, 2018
True.but will Nigerians hear?no they won't.nigerians are already braindead by years of brainwashing by this religious folks

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