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jesusjnr:
You shouldn't have and it would have been wise of you, because what you just said now is unfounded.

Otherwise you'd have to explain where this heresy below came from.

My bro, don't mind them jare. The God of this world has blinded them and they cannot see the glory of christ. You quoted scriptures yet they called you a fool. What's the difference between oyedepo and a politician like Dino that receives billions in constituency allowances but uses 5million to buy bags of rice for widows and uses the rest to buy himself expensive cars? Did Peter the rock own a horse? Ship or businesses? These guys are brain dead from decades of brainwashing. They call the charlatan papa.. I laugh In hindu

sunkieisland:
I just read a comment I'm not going to quote of someone saying until all Winners Chapel members are okay financially, Bishop Oyedepo should not consider himself a rich man.


That comment is devoid of spiritual sense. I'm not a Winners Chapel member, just a Christian and I'm pretty sure Jesus said there would always be poor in the church.

It's a natural law.

You know I met someone recently and everything about the guy showed he was satisfied with poverty.

I submit here that anyone's prosperity is entirely their business and not their pastor's.

There will always be poor people around.. Yes.. But they will not go hungry because you are to continually feed them.pls be spiritual or use common sense

Temptee101:


With the little you have, how many people have you helped. Always running your mouth cho cho cho cho like an overflowing stream

How many people is he collecting money from? Use ur brain guy

alBHAGDADI:
Read Genesis 14 which is the first mention of tithe, you will see that Abraham tithed of ALL. This could include money and can't be excluding of money. So, clearly, tithing had included money long before it included agricultural produce.

So a full time pastor should starve to death?

Tithing is never a prerequisite to salvation. It is of reward.

Always reasoning with your anus. Well done

shadeyinka:
Tithes and sacrifices could only be at the temple in Jerusalem or wherever the Lord has chosen.

Why do you think there was buying and selling in the temple in Jerusalem during the time of Jesus?

People who lived far had to convert their tithes and sacrifices to money and then purchase the items at the temple.

You still need to find a scripture that says you can bring money as tithe. The reference to Abraham bringing tithes of "captured goods" still doesn't refer to money.

Don't mind d agbagdadi guy.. Abraham gave a tenth to melchizedeck who had no beginning and end. Which pastor in Nigeria has no beginning and end? Even our Jesus that is the only one in melchizedecks order did not receive or collect tithe.

alBHAGDADI:
This is a pure rubbish teaching coming from a Catholic Bishop of gay kingdom.

Where did God order that we should do what this preacher said with our tithe? Nowhere. What God said in Malachai 3:10 is that we should bring the tithe to his house. He didn't say we should branch somewhere else with it.

Yes, the pastor's idea seems like a reasonably brilliant and kind one, but that doesn't make it right in God's eyes. Remember that the way man thinks is different from the way God thinks.

Man thinks it is a good thing to give the tithe to someone in need of it. But where did God say such about tithe? Nowhere. He only said to bring it to his house and from there it is distributed to the needy.

Think of it this way: You are on your way to the hospital with 100k to pay for your child's medical bills. Suddenly you found a needy man. Be honest with yourself, will you give the money to the needy man to the detriment of your child in the hospital?

I can bet you won't. So why do you now think it is right to give your tithe to the needy man? Remember, it is God's money and you have no right to decide how to help God spend it, especially when he gave you no such order.

Look, don't let people bamboozle you weird scenarios like the one given by the preacher. Always stand by God's command. The tithe is his, and the only thing you can do with it is to take it to his house, nowhere else.

They may even use your child as an example, saying what if your child is sick and the money needed for treatment is equivalent to the tithe money you have, which is your last dime.

What will I say in this case? Give that money to God because it is his. At this point many will be kicking against me. Little do they know that they are kicking against Jesus who said...


Mathew 10:37
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Why do you think Abraham is referred to as a friend of God today? Because he obeyed God by proceeding to sacrifice his son Isaac as commanded by God. He didn't think twice. But people who are not worthy of Jesus are the ones who will disobey him by doing the thoughts of their heart instead of his word.

Proverbs 3:5-6 (KJV)
5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

As usual, thinking from the anus

Virus99:
We need a loan so bad for our tech startup.
We already created our web and App.

Pls I will appreciate to work with anyone. Or any info about getting a start up loan from banks or Angel investors.
Thanks.

Where is your location?

NwaAmaikpe:




It is a shame and very heartbreaking that Akah Nnani will rather align with the court of public urchins to pull down his pastor all because of clout.

Akah thinks he has arrived after featuring in a few episodes of a backstreet soap and because he has friends who are generous to lend him their clothes and shoes for his photoshoots.

While he should understand that total featuretime in his appearances isn't up to 39 minutes, he should be reminded that posterity will forever remember him as a sellout; a fame hungry Judas who stabbed his Lord because of half piece of Instagram clout silver.

Really? Religion has made some people brain dead

ehinmowo:
I didn't quote you. You obviously wants to argue. I think you are right already.

Yet no new covenant scripture to support your claims. as usual ur type will leave the substance and dwell on the form. Speak on d substance leave the form

jesusjnr:
All I can is that agree with you is that you've found an interpretation of the Bible which agrees with your position concerning the outward appearance.

What is immoral dressing to you, is not the same as immoral dressing to God, for God made man and woman not just skimpily dressed but without any cloths in the beginning, and it was good and not immoral dressing to Him.

Genesis 1:31 (KJV)

31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

But that would be immoral dressing to you right?

That's why God says man (Alghagdadi) looks on the outward appearance but God looks on the heart.

That guy agbagdadi or whatever, thinks through his anus. Spewing trash not most times.. All the time.. Once I see his post I don't even bother reading instead I'll read peoples responses to him because the responses will make some sense. You can be controversial but try and be intelligent enuf.. Not putting forward dumb arguments that makes one lose some braincells when reading thru

ehinmowo:
There things that are bigger than you. God does not put his stewards in the hands of men to rebuke. So many people have distabilized their lives because of this.


The last person that should be on ones' case is God himself. Cos there wouldn't be anywhere to run to.

It's like someone who is kicking against someone who has found grace before God. such a person will hurt himself badly.

A man lost his life because he claimed to have killed Saul the king. He thought we was doing David and God favour for "killing" such "abomination".

I am not religious. But I got to understand these things early in life. There are some words that are beyond you. That's my 1 cent advise. If you quote me to insult me in response, so be it.

Tell us about the new testament now.. Abi new testament nor favor u? All christ apostles were killed except John that escaped. Who lost their life for persecuting christ and his disciples?

The world loves the bishop but hates christ. Smh

My tithe works for me... Very funny and yet we are the poverty capital of d world. The only people tithe is working for is those collecting it. That's why they are on Forbes

gbale1:
You are senile. The earth is the Lord's and it's fullness thereoff. The cattle on a thousand hills belong to Him. If He could give king Solomon so much wealth that Solomon built a temple worth $450 Billion is today's current rate, is it the giver that will not have *shishi". You guys just spill rubbish without having an in-depth of what you saying

He is a merciful God if not, the treatment of Dathan, Abiram, and Korah would have been your portion.

Receive sense..

We are talking about christ here on earth and you are talking about what God created. Was Solomon a pastor? A priest? A levite? Or a king. This old testament does not allow u guys to think. Was Solomon a Christian? Did Paul and christ disciples live in luxury? Did Paul not complain that they were in rags? The cross Jesus said you should carry and follow him, you think it's riding pj and having wealth? Guy you have been taught in error

Olufela30:
Only God can bless this much and more !!!

Satan, the God of this world has blinded believers, they cannot recognize blessings from Satan. Did Satan not tempt Jesus with the good things of life? But Jesus overcame him.

Daddy freeze has been called the anti - christ many times but now you know who the real antichrist are. Benny hin has repented. Am waiting for oyedepo, adeboye, oyakilome etc but I know over their dead bodies

Nodogragra4me:
The truth is that you have only seen what you want to see f rom the scripture because of your nature.

Your claim that the two or three references exist in the new testament about tithing and them being about rebuke is patently false and a work of the devil. I hope you are not in his service.

Post those references and re read them to yourself and then point or explain how they are about rebuke

Sheeple alert

olayemioshiyemi:
Many are mad but few are roaming . ....mad people everywhere.

Have u read the scripture he posted? Typical Nigerian

By the time daddyfreeze is done with the church, pastors ko dust their cv de find real jobs.the revolution is yielding positive results. Tithes have actually reduced. Now the sheep know they've been scammed

Astark:
many ignorant Christians will be lost due to social media, they are many false prophets and anti Christ whose only mission is to drive people away from Christianity.
Daddy freeze is one of such anti Christ, he has led many souls to devil and he's still doing that, he said Jesus is not real, he called Jesus scam, he calls miracles fake and his recent post has on Instagram called "religion a scam" (referring to Christians).
99% of attack on religion is always directed at Christians, look at instablog for example, any abuse on Christian always reaches there.

Nairaland is also among the forum that is anti Christian, have you ever seen seun *the founder of nairaland* attack Muslims or Islam? No but he has called Christianity scam many times and has continue to mock Christian. You can't comment on Muslim thread unless you are Muslim but everyone is free to abuse Christians and comment on their threads.

I'm not really surprised because the bible warn us against this day. Their are more coming and I pray lost Christians found their way to light.

God bless us all

The only antichrist I know are oyedepo, adeboye, oyakilome, enenche. U can't see because you have been blinded by the God of this world. Satan

Astark:
like how el rufai respected Christians by insulting it? Or how tuface called Christianity a scam? Or how daddy freeze insult and mock the bible daily?

Does daddy freeze mock the Bible or the pastors?

BossDante:
No, just business name alone i.e Enterprise, it doesn't include LTD asin company or NGO , and the 5k is just political talks. You can NEVER use 5k to register a business name. And I'll advice you to use a lawyer. I'm not saying you should contact me because I am one, just get anyone you are okay with.

But if you decide to contact me, then I will register a business name, Ltd or NGO for you with a more reasonable price. I'm based in Abuja.

Anyone interested can mention me. Happy sallah

How much to register a Ltd?

jk200:
Anointing surpasses political post.

One thing i understand about real anointing is that it will draw men unto you. Kings will bow b/4 real anointing.

Am not talking about all this fake showbiz pastors that have brought shame into the body of Christ.

Most of young pastors of today are after fame, wealth, honor and other related wordly things.

What hurt me must is their ego. you hear them saying " don't you know am mam of God? My membership strength is 2,000, My church has 15 branches across Nigeria." as if i care.

As a real man of God, you don't need to tell Men b4 they knows you. The bible says; by their fruit, you shall know them.

How many kings bowed before christ or his apostles.?Herod and Jesus no see eye to eye. Herod beheaded John the baptist

laudate:
Thanks for telling us your new surname.

I know you can't see 'love your enemies' in the scripture I posted. Am not surprised. Satan hold you tight sha

laudate:
"Pray for those who persecute you", abi? Don't worry, I will pray for them. May God destroy all the killer herdsmen and kidnappers in this land. Isn't that a prayer?

When these criminals kidnap any of your family members, please come back here and tell us how much love you have for them.

Pagan

laudate:
Did Jesus pray for the Pharisees? Are you saying "Woe unto you" is a prayer? And Jesus commanded the disciples to love other fellow disciples, not murderers and killer herdsmen.

Jesus forgave his killers because He knew they were fulfilling prophecy. Are the murderous killer herdsmen and kidnappers fulfilling biblical prophecy?

He only asked the disciples to "pray" for those who despitefully use them and persecute them. He never said they should love their persecutors.

See a prayer can also take the form of a curse. See, there is nothing wrong in releasing a prayer of curses against the unteprentant enemies...

Replying you is a waste of time. U don't know the Bible. So the killers of Stephen were also fulfilling Bible prophesy? The example of the good Samaritan,was the person he helped a member of his church or a fellow Samaritan? They have showed you Bible verses where christ said you should love your enemies but the spirit of the antichrist doesn't let u see it.oh pagans

Matt5:43-48
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[i] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

laudate:
Even Jesus cursed the fig tree. And he told the Pharisees " Woe unto you Pharisees..."

So why do you guys keep acting as if it is wrong to curse evil?

Was the fig tree human? Did christ die for a fig tree? But christ died for your enemy. Was the fig tree his enemy? Were the pharisees his enemy?but christ prayed for and forgave his killers.
If we draw a parallel it means it's okay to abuse dem oyedepo and adeboye that distort the gospel but it is not okay to curse our enemies. The pharisees were elders of religion and these are the only set of people christ was not happy with

pedel:
Why not answer the question and stop the emotional blackmail. How are the words of Jesus relevant to the situation? Do we have to be a victim before we decide to or not to obey Christ?
Growing up in Africa decades ago, when someones livestock is stolen, the owner will wake up very early in the morning and start railing curses on whoever stole the goat or the hen.
How is the Bishop's action different from those unbelievers that go around cursing?

How come Kenneth Copeland is not raising curses on the shooters at El Paso and Dayton where 30 people were killed within 13 hours?

Bishop David Oyedepo is in error and should not be followed on this. period!

Guy the matter tire me. Going thru the comments I realized that many people support oyedepo and very few daddyfreeze. That tells me daddyfreeze is right. The anti christ is always the majority. Don't forget narrow is the path to heaven.. The world follows the world. Today the world is the church. Nobody has been able to prove in scripture that Jesus cursed his enemies but the spirit of the anti-christ has blinded them totally.

Printerscanner:
I stand with our Bishop on this. Other times I may side with Daddy Freeze

Why not stand with christ instead. Am sure your bishop has never met christ

I don't just get it. Omega fire ministries got a home for someone. Who is apostle Sulaiman? What is his daytime job? Let's stop gloryfying man

CodeTemplar:
Na was o bros...
Jesus came to save Human race and his message to one is also to all. If we start giving all messages in the bible personal interpretation then the bible will be a collection of personal memoirs.

Guy,personal interpretation arises when you don't know the difference between the Jewish religion(Judaism) and christianity.

CodeTemplar:
This guy is just a traffic hustler. He has abandoned his anti-tithe doctrines after the light of Mathew 23:23 shattered his doctrine of darkness.

In matt 23:23,was Jesus refering to his disciples?are we under the Jewish law?I don't get you guys?what's wrong with you people?