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Computers / Re: My Windows-10 Failed To Sign Me In by GerogeI(m): 4:21pm On May 18, 2022
It is expecting your Windows account sign in, while you are login in with your offline password.

You need to connect to Internet and login with your Windows account. Or just connect to Internet at point page and try your password. But you should know if you had created Windows account profile before on the system.
Politics / Re: Enugu Guber Aspirants Reduce As Onoh Emerges Federal Constituency Sole Aspirant by GerogeI(m): 8:45am On May 18, 2022
Enugu state and crap politics of power rotation at state level.
Enthroning incompetent career politicians who are reversing the states development with money sharing. Learn from Anambra and look for your best. Principled achievers with vision to take you somewhere.

It is better to be going somewhere in conflict than to be going backwards in peace, because your leader is sharing loots equitably among politicians, contrary to Sulivans policies of working for which they tried to impeach him.

Enugu is peaceful and stagnant!

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Politics / Re: Should You Believe The BBC? Over 80 years of British Black Propaganda by GerogeI(m): 5:31pm On May 16, 2022
helinues:
Whenever any article don't suit their narrations, it is either it's false or fabricated.

Why is truth bitter to some of you people like bitter leaf?

Whose truth exactly?
Apparently even Britain has been manufacturing truths for decades. BBC even told us their so called truthful fact check revealed no Catholic Church was attacked in Sokoto, but the video of the destruction is now online.
Politics / Re: Deborah Samuel: Christian Association Of Nigeria Declares Nationwide Protest by GerogeI(m): 2:38pm On May 16, 2022
Which protest?
CAN should call for division of the country.

If Biafra had worn the war, the likes of devote Northern Christians like Deborah would have been schooling in Enugu on Scholarship, and also have special residency status or fast tracked asylum.

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Politics / Re: Sit-At-Home: IPOB, ESN Beat Lady, Others In Enugu by GerogeI(m): 1:31pm On May 16, 2022
It's is called "British Black Propaganda"

This op is an indirect recruit of an arm of British intelligence that is tutoring the Nigerian Government.

They are well funded, and can go as far as staging events and forming fake organisations.

If you noticed, this guy came up out of the blues and started making superhuman efforts to cast ESN as cannibals when no one ever had such an inkling or thought.

No Nigerian player would ever think of fighting IPOB by portraying them as cannibals. Only some one reading the outdated British colonial files that profiled Igbos over 1700s and 1800s, can come up with such a psychology driven goal, believing Igbos are still as scared of cannibals as they were I colonial times.

https://www.rt.com/news/555513-uk-black-propaganda-ussr-china/

https://www.rt.com/news/550014-uk-new-cell-disinformation/

Russia has a disinformation unit, but theirs is an information unit, that clearly side stepped the murder of Deborah, trivialising it, to focus attention on so called disinformation on Sokoto riots.

They are doing same to IPOB, trivializing herdsmen attacks, casting doubts if they ever happened, and focusing attention on graphic murders allegedly by ESN. Any graphic material they can get is tied to ESN, and it seems now they are even willing to stage them.



This is the game Mandela played with them in South Africa. How, he seperated his armed movement from his political movement and outsmarted them. IPOB must do the same.

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Politics / Should You Believe The BBC? Over 80 years of British Black Propaganda by GerogeI(m): 12:55pm On May 16, 2022
Do you still think the BBC is a legitimate non partial media out outfit, even though it is funded by Govt?

The new so called BBC disinformation unit, is a revival.of the old secret black propaganda unit described below. And they are even active on Nairaland with Nigerian recruits.

15 May, 2022 12:43
HomeWorld News
UK 'black propaganda' campaign exposed by researcher
London for decades sought to drive a wedge between Moscow, Beijing, the Arab world and Africa through fake news, a researcher claims
UK 'black propaganda' campaign exposed by researcher
FILE PHOTO. © Global Look Press / Steve Taylor
A secretive unit within the British Foreign Office waged a "black propaganda" campaign against the USSR and China from the 1950s to the 1970s to undermine their global influence, the Guardian has reported, citing a researcher who studied a trove of recently declassified intelligence documents. London did not shy away from stirring up anti-Semitism, racism and Islamist sentiment to achieve its goals, the academic claims.

“These releases are among the most important of the past two decades. It's very clear now that the UK engaged in more black propaganda than historians assume and these efforts were more systemic, ambitious and offensive,” Rory Cormac, a professor of international relations at Nottingham University, told the Guardian.

According to the newspaper, the documents reveal “hundreds of extensive and costly operations” conducted by the Information Research Department (IRD) – a covert unit initially established by the post-WWII Labour government to counter Communist propaganda. The unit “went far beyond merely exposing Soviet disinformation,” Cormac has said, adding that the UK "definitely intended to deceive audiences in order to get the message across."

UK revives Cold War-era unit to fight ‘disinformation’READ MORE UK revives Cold War-era unit to fight ‘disinformation’
The IRD had a separate highly secretive Special Editorial Unit responsible for so-called “black propaganda,” a special type of fake news designed to look as if it’s produced by a nation or organization that the actual creator wants to discredit.

Some of the “reports” sent to Western governments and media included analysis supposedly coming from independent institutions, which were secretly run by the IRD, and warned Western nations about alleged “Soviet subversion.” The British unit also forged at least 11 reports supposedly released by Soviet state-run news agencies, according to the Guardian.

London particularly sought to drive a wedge between Moscow and its allies in the Arab world by both producing fake news discrediting the Soviet Union in the eyes of Arabs, and stirring up Islamist sentiment among them, the paper said. One such report, presented as coming from the USSR, blasted Soviet military aid to Egypt during the 1967 Six-Day War with Israel as a “waste.” The British operatives also forged pro-Islamist literature, including that of the Muslim Brotherhood – a group that had significant influence in the Arab world at that time.

Statements forged by the IRD saw the Muslim Brotherhood calling the Soviets “filthy-tongued atheists” and accused them of perceiving Egyptians as “peasants” following “reactionary Islamic superstitions.” The IRD also went as far as to create an entirely fictional Islamist group – the League of Believers – that attacked the Soviet Union for its atheism and blamed the Arab defeats in the wars against Israel on a lack of faith.

British propaganda campaign incited mass slaughter of communists in Indonesia in 1960s, declassified papers revealREAD MORE British propaganda campaign incited mass slaughter of communists in Indonesia in 1960s, declassified papers reveal
The British unit reportedly did not shy away from stirring up anti-Semitic sentiment as well. One of its leaflets incited Egyptians to attack Israel by asking them: “why don't they direct their armies against the Jews?”

The IRD was similarly active in Africa, where it repeatedly sought to convey an image of the Soviet Union seeing Africans as uncivilized. In 1963, the IRD forged a statement by the World Federation of Democratic Youth – an organization linked to the USSR – which called Africans “primitive.” Other forgeries included statements in which the Soviets decried the “backwardness” and “political immaturity” of Africa, while criticizing the skills of black African students enrolled in Soviet universities.

Documents declassified back in 2021 and seen by the Guardian also showed that the British propaganda campaign had had a role in the mass slaughter of Communists in Indonesia in the 1960s. Between 500,000 and three million supporters of the Communist Party were killed at that time, according to various estimates.

These efforts had the full support of several consecutive British governments, according to Cormac. In 1964, the Conservative Prime Minister, Alec Douglas-Home, ordered the IRD to target Ghana over its supposed leanings to Moscow. Months later, the Labour Foreign Secretary, Patrick Gordon Walker, called on the unit to produce black propaganda “from time to time” and particularly stir up racial tensions between the Africans and Chinese.

Сold War-style UK psyop unit targets Russians – mediaREAD MORE Сold War-style UK psyop unit targets Russians – media
Although the unit was officially disbanded in 1977, similar efforts allegedly continued for almost another decade, the Guardian says. Now, the British government is still engaged in an “information war,” according to Cormac.

In February, just days before the start of the Russian military operation in Ukraine, British Foreign Secretary Liz Truss revealed that the UK was creating a new unit to combat “disinformation” from Moscow. In March, the Telegraph reported that the unit dubbed the Government Information Cell was reaching Russian social media to disseminate London’s view on the conflict in Ukraine.

“Liz Truss has a ‘government information cell,’ and defense intelligence sends out daily tweets to ‘pre-but’ Russian plots and gain the upper hand in the information war, but for much of the cold war the UK used far more devious means," the researcher said, adding that the declassified papers are “particularly significant as a precursor to more modern efforts of putting intelligence into the public domain.”

https://www.rt.com/news/555513-uk-black-propaganda-ussr-china/

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Politics / Re: Nigeria's Sokoto Student Killing Sparks Spread Of Fake News - BBC by GerogeI(m): 8:32pm On May 15, 2022
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Celebrities / Re: Linda Ikeji's Counsel In Court To Defend N1bn Suit By NBM Of Africa Over Libel by GerogeI(m): 3:10pm On May 14, 2022
TheWolfen:


I hope she wins. If not for anything but for the nuisance constitute by their likes in tertiary institutions

She will surely win, its a no brainers
It's not just that their sin are well known to the public, they have started exporting it to developed countries. I know I saw specifically a report on FBI operation from US to South Africa, to arrest a Nigerian gang of scammers known as the .

Apart from this, there are documents and records from cult renunciation in most southern Federal Universities around year 2000 or so. Those are enough proof that they are a cult group. Then there are various police raids of initiation ceremonies, including drug burst of the drugs they normally mix into goat blood, and confessions and investigation of murder by their members. There are years of evidences.

So Linda need not panic, just counter sue them first before you court starts so you can recover any money spent.

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Celebrities / Re: Linda Ikeji's Counsel In Court To Defend N1bn Suit By NBM Of Africa Over Libel by GerogeI(m): 2:52pm On May 14, 2022
Stupid suit, there are conviction evidences of Criminal activities of these cults in Italy, FBI in US and South Africa, all identified as scammers, gangs, etc.

Documents from Just one of those proceedings will render this idiotic libel suit by known criminals useless.

So Linda, should first counter sue them for 10 billion for claiming she lied, and then get those court documents from public prosecutors in Italy especially, where their members gave ample confessions in exchange for leniency.

Linda is about to add 10 billion to her existing fortune.

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Politics / Re: Akwa Ibom State Complet Coconut Oil Factory (largest In Africa) by GerogeI(m): 10:34am On May 13, 2022
This big building just to mount conveyor, boiler and a press.

Coconut oil extraction belongs to the cottage industry, the government should have provided spurs for individuals to establish small plants, they will spread out and provide a robust economy for the industry. But alas, its Africa.

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Properties / Re: Dangers Of Living In A Shared Flat by GerogeI(m): 11:58am On May 08, 2022
Flat sharing is suited to young people struggling to establish their careers. It is the lowest cost of accommodation in UK, and US, so their is nothing wrong with sharing flats. Its way better than face me I face you.

The problem is that our theiving legislature has not found it useful to laydown laws guiding flats share as has been the case in other parts of the world.
So my suggestion is that the parties involved should draw up an agreement covering the sharing dos and don't and sign it. And also try to ensure their rent reaches the owner of the house.

Whether the landlord is aware or not, the minimum period of 6 months must be given for eviction as long as he has been collecting money from one of you.

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Family / Re: Asaba Inlaw: "In This Whole World You Couldn’t Find Anyone To Marry But An Igbo" by GerogeI(m): 1:38pm On May 06, 2022
spearman:


So how do you explain this map? All Niger Delta Igboid speaking are outside this map. Culture is the most powerful indicator of who you are and where you are from. To be strongly outside this cannibal map is enough proof for anthropologist to conclude these are different peoples.
Which map, drawn by who and for what purpose. Start by telling us the origin and purpose of the map, its authenticity, the knowledge level of the author before presenting it as evidence of the origin of things that are more important than it.

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Family / Re: Asaba Inlaw: "In This Whole World You Couldn’t Find Anyone To Marry But An Igbo" by GerogeI(m): 1:20pm On May 06, 2022
spearman:

I was working for there so call Peter Obi, not for anything other than to show goodwill and be charitable but I am starting to see this people as a real problem. They are irredeemable. That thread on Agbor flipped me completely. There is an Agbor person beside me seething with such anger and loathing for Igbos because of that silly post. The facts are clear to all but Igbos. They have become too toxic. I don't want to carry the same passport with them. I don't want to be in the same country with them.
Great, when are you going to start advocating their expulsion from Nigeria and great green passport?
Family / Re: Asaba Inlaw: "In This Whole World You Couldn’t Find Anyone To Marry But An Igbo" by GerogeI(m): 1:16pm On May 06, 2022
spearman:
Asaba Man Responds On Facebook To Asaba Is Igbo Claims

Asaba Inlaw: "In This Whole World You Couldn’t Find Anyone To Marry But An Igbo"

Short story: One of my earliest and most persistent memories is this - near my village, 1 kilometer from Asaba, was a camp where people lived.
Who are they I asked - “Wa bu Ndigbo” I was told. Translation: “They are Igbos”.
I was confused. Aren’t we Igbos, but I said nothing.
Another occasion I heard some commotion in the direction of the camp. Oh don’t be worried I was told. They are Igbos. Again so thought but we are igbos!


Fast forward 3 decades.
A friend of mine from Aba who married from Asaba, over a beer told me “I can’t get over Asaba people. During my native law, my wife’s people kept abusing her in the same language I spoke. They kept saying ‘so in this whole world, you couldn’t find anyone to marry but an Igbo?’”
These are true accounts.
People from my area… even the indigenes of ONITSHA (I’ve been told) consider themselves Not Igbo.
I grew up seeing my people refer to others as “Those Igbo people”.
I have just learnt that the phrase “Igbo enwere Eze” was coined by core Igbos to separate themselves from the Onitsha indigenes…
Following that logic, Asaba nwere eze .... kedụ ka ọ ga-esi bụrụ igbo?
ka anyi biri n’udo nwanne m nwoke
m zuru ikpe m

It’s not an issue to be swept under the carpet. We need to consider it seriously.

Just because everyone in America speaks English doesn’t change their ancestry (some are of German, Italian, Russian, African, Chinese ancestry...).
Ancestry can only be determined scientifically by DNA analysis. My sister discovered she has ancestors from Mali, Senega... of course!! The river Niger flows through those nations before it passes the shores of my village which sits on the West Bank of the Niger net Asaba.

Bottom line, you cannot teach a man how to write with his left hand in old age.
The real issue is why so many Igbo speaking people reject the idea they’re Igbo. (Like some Egyptians in an interview I watched - who can’t understand why they’re considered Africans at all!).
Let’s have an academic discussion why!
We may learn valuable lessons.
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Good morning.

*****The heavy cannibal lines on below map indicate the limits of Igbo land and culture. All who fall outside the cannibal line are not Igbos. Plain to see.

This is a response to this mumu post

https://www.nairaland.com/7112529/origin-agbor-obi-agbor

This is not Rocket Science.

Igbos were defeated in a war sponsored by a known world power, Britain. After that war, every fringe Igbo subgroups in the South and West denied being Igbo to avoid the victimisation that followed. Those in the North Nsukka area were occupied by the Federal army much earlier in the war, so they did not really fight and saw little retribution, hence saw no need to deny being Igbos.


How serious were the retribution?
1. Igbos in civil service, police, and army were disengaged and sent home. You can save your job by claiming not to be Igbo.

2. If you moved to a place like Onitsha after the war, Federal troops routinely commandeered your wife. You just come home and see some military men in your house having sex with your wife. If they even see you, they will just shoot you. This is how it is believed Obasanjo fathered Oby Ezekwesili. To avoid all this evil, you just claim not to be Igbo. Britain encouraged all such groups to deveate from being Igbo and also laid the plan for the isolation of the central Igbo region to make Igbos smaller and less powerful. So you politicians were encouraged to deny Igbo origin.


3.igbos were not controlling any funding source, hence our war torn infrastructure were dead. Our communities lacked any external help. The so called humanitarian efforts were being routed through actors in Western Nigeria who diverted them to their region. Things like Seats means for war torn schools were rerouted to schools in western Nigeria. To be saved of such, you just had the claim not to be Igbo.

It was not difficult denying being Igbo because Igbo communities even in the heartland traditionally identified themselves by their own names, and everyother neighbour they called Igbo's. But as they referred their neighbours as Igbos, they themselves were referred to by their neighbours as Igbos.

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Politics / Re: 2023: You Don't Have To Borrow To Fund Project, I Developed Lagos - Bola Tinubu by GerogeI(m): 10:00am On May 06, 2022
Igboland:
In Lagos today does your father pay 0% in personal tax ? I am talking ZERO % in taxes to the Lagos state government .

Why are you miserable Ebows filled with envy hate foolishness lies n madness altogether.

OK I put it to you provide any prove that even if it is not your relative any Lagosian paying 10% of his income to Lagos state government and I will give you 100K.

Any Ebow or any other tribe even angels can come to your aid provide a verifiable prove that any living soul living working in Lagos state pay 10% of his or her salary to Lagos n earn 100K. Note I lived in Lagos all my life n never encountered any form of personal taxation till I bought land n had to register in my name so when being verifiable prove use your sense.





Oga, shut up.
You do not pay any tax, so you have no idea what people are going through.

Working in any good company in Lagos, you pay roughly 30% of you salary as tax, courtesy of Tinubu who was copying UK tax where minimum tax is 40%, forgetting that in UK people have social safety nets, do not provide their own power, water, security and sanitation.

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Politics / Re: 2023: You Don't Have To Borrow To Fund Project, I Developed Lagos - Bola Tinubu by GerogeI(m): 6:56am On May 06, 2022
Gjrich:
2023: "There is no abracadabra about funding government projects, the money must come from somewhere. And you don't have to borrow. Obasanjo withheld Lagos state's monthly federation allocation for 4 years when I was governor, yet we developed Lagos and paid salaries without borrowing. I will replicate the same feat as president of Nigeria". - Bola Ahmed Tinubu.

Not develop, but monetized Lagos.
For laypeople, if this guy becomes president we will be paying 80% of our income as tax to politicians for nothing but the Jamborees.

As is the case with Lagos House of Assembly Leadership, Ambode and cleaning contracts, Tinubu and Lagbus, Alphabeta and Lekki Concession Commpany, MC Olomo and Monetized Touts Network.

He will be nationalising these absurdities as development.

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NYSC / Re: Corpers Framed Up, Flogged & Tied Up In Okija, Anambra State (Pictures) by GerogeI(m): 6:39pm On May 04, 2022
Dear OP,
In Anambra State, we value our hospitality. In fact, our guests are exempt from most of our communal laws, we will quickly tell you such is a guest, Obia. This is a case of a criminal element hosting you in his house.

My question is this, have you reported formally, to the police first and then to the Igwe and President General of the Community. You do not need to visit, just send them a text message, they will not take it lightly as this tarnishes the image of the community. But you must make the report for the complaint to be authentic. The community will fish out the assailant and deal with them, before the state government even reacts.

I will also refer contacts from Okija, to this complaint.
These are criminals, and does not reflect our community values in Anambra state. You do not take laws into your own hands, even if the controversy is handled at community level.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: CIA Asks Russians To Contact Them On Dark Net Over Putin by GerogeI(m): 7:12pm On May 02, 2022
Look at theses ones,
Russians are angry with Putin,
Because they want him to declare full scale war with Ukraine so they can fully mobilizer and use all their military capabilities. Instead of Putin declaring easy humanitarian corridors and withdrawing from conquered cities.

CIA wants them to contact them lol

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Food / Re: What's The Name Of This Fruit In English And Your Native Language by GerogeI(m): 4:05pm On Apr 30, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Orange is a general English name used for a family of citrus fruits however the name of particular fruits depends a lot on were they are sourced from. E.g. there is a particular hybrid created in Jamaica that goes by the Jamaican name. undecided

All oranges, originated from Mandarin orange! None is native to England.
Food / Re: What's The Name Of This Fruit In English And Your Native Language by GerogeI(m): 3:58pm On Apr 30, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Much of your local fruits aren't native to Africa. Many were brought over from other lands. undecided

So what?
Orange came from Mandarin China, did that stop British people from calling it orange.
Or are you saying some thing is wrong with calling it 'Oroma'

If you are tracing origin be clear, but do not start condemning our language as if someone else's is more authentic. All the fruits you name in English, how many of them are native to England that has snow or you do not know fruits are more tropical than temperate. Apart from apple which is from Kazakstan, what they have native are the berries.
Food / Re: What's The Name Of This Fruit In English And Your Native Language by GerogeI(m): 3:51pm On Apr 30, 2022
Kobojunkie:
While searching, I found the name for a popular fruit in Nigeria. Locally called Ube, is Safou. One of the most distinctive features about safou is the way that the fruit have a texture like butter when they are cooked. This texture is why the fruit is sometimes referred to as butterfruit.

Safou is an evergreen tree found in the humid tropical forests of Africa, as far south as Angola and as far north as Nigeria. The fruits are also known as African pears and are oblong dark blue to violet fruits up to 14cm in length, with pale green flesh inside. These fatty fruits have been said to have the ability to end starvation in Africa, as 48% of the fruit is made up of essential fatty acids, amino acids, Vitamins, and triglycerides. They have estimated that a one-hectare plantation would produce 7-8 tons of oil, and all parts of the plant can be used.
https://listverse.com/2011/07/08/top-20-fruits-you-probably-dont-know/

Oga, the the name is Ube, safou is secondary. Which kind of inferiority complex is this one. A fruit that is native to us, which we have named, you come and tell us the name is safe, as in our own name for it no gel? Is it not a human being that called it safou in his own place. Haba@!!!

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Nuclear War. What Is The Meaning Of MAD? by GerogeI(m): 10:50am On Apr 29, 2022
plaindealer:



The topic is MAD, not your opinion and meaningless factors.

This is how people like you fail WAEC. You ask them A and they start talking about Z.

How hard is it to follow a simple internet discussion?

You can not even stay on topic to save your own life.

Hello kiddie,
There are no real world issues with yes or no answers.
There is a high probability that Russia can intercept and destroy retaliatory nuclear attacks.

Ok, go and play with your toys grin grin wink cheesy

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Nuclear War. What Is The Meaning Of MAD? by GerogeI(m): 10:30am On Apr 29, 2022
plaindealer:
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I'm not interested in your speed of ICBM rubbish and distractions, the topic is MAD.




Do you agree or disagree?

You are not interested in the key factors that influence your so called MAD, that's why you are unable to comprehend what it is.


Foreign Affairs / Re: Nuclear War. What Is The Meaning Of MAD? by GerogeI(m): 10:27am On Apr 29, 2022
plaindealer:






Hence the topic, MAD.

So, if you are not making claims that Russia cannot sustain damage from retaliatory nuclear attacks, then why are you bothering me with your meaningless post.

MAD is the Keyword, it's either you agree or disagree,, but you need to stop trolling or straddling as if you are clueless and confused.


Hello stupid,
The word there for D is Destruction not Damage.
Anybody can sustain damage. But can you assurdly destroy Russia when they can intercept and retaliate. No!
Foreign Affairs / Re: Nuclear War. What Is The Meaning Of MAD? by GerogeI(m): 10:11am On Apr 29, 2022
plaindealer:



This has nothing to do with hypersonic or how good or difficult it is to defend against, let's just even agree that you hit your target in the US and Western Europe, does it mean the US or NATO won't send their own Nukes your way?

Just answer Yes or No.
Lol, you are thick, really thick skulled.

Let me try to be slow and gentle.
ICBM can easily achieve 7km/s, but they need to be launched into space, which means they are easily detected. All the parties have this capability.

But conventional air breathing missiles that you fire from vehicles or boats or ships or subs do not have that kind of speed. Except Russia now has the technology. Meaning, that the US can respond to a Russian attack, but not only can Russia intercept the conventional missiles they respond with, they can also use the hypersonic missiles to intercept or deflect an incoming ICB missile since they have similar speed range.

So mutually assured destruction might not be totally mutual after all.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Nuclear War. What Is The Meaning Of MAD? by GerogeI(m): 10:04am On Apr 29, 2022
plaindealer:



lmao @ this dude. Always gyrating from one foolery to the next?

Where was it even asserted that all ships carry nukes?

Dude, go and sit down if you have nothing sane and intelligent to talk about and stop arguing with yourself.. grin grin

Typical PouTonian.. grin grin




Oh, I see your irrelevant use of Fleet. Has no consequence. US cannot destroy Russia from fleets, their missiles can be intercepted. They need to use intercontinental ballistic missiles, especially now that Russia can fire hypersonic interceptors.

And futher, no one ever made claims that Russia cannot sustain damage from retaliatory nuclear attacks. The point really is that Russias new capabilities make it more able to intercept or destroy such attacks, so the mutually assured destruction is no longer certain. The world is officially back in the arms race, Russia is on top for now.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Nuclear War. What Is The Meaning Of MAD? by GerogeI(m): 9:55am On Apr 29, 2022
plaindealer:



Here we go again with the hypersonic argument.

It doesn't matter what you fired, they have sensors, sats, and monitoring apparatus to detect your actions from preparation to actual strike regardless of what you fired including hypersonic so the second your hypersonic jets into the air, they are sending yours back to you so of what relevance is your hypersonic argument?

Orr the fact that you fired hypersonic whatever means you won't get Nuked in return?

How hard is it for you people to gel with obvious reality or to even make small sense?

You know when you do not know how things work, you tend to mystify it. The sensors you are talking about are cameras on satellites, same kind used for shooting Google earth pictures and their infra red sand Lidar versions. Even North Korea routinely fool's all those cameras.

As for hypersonic missiles, am guessing you are not science inclined, so its hard for you to understand the implication. So lets make it simple, you cannot intercept them, the person who has them can more easily intercept your conventional missiles.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Nuclear War. What Is The Meaning Of MAD? by GerogeI(m): 9:38am On Apr 29, 2022
plaindealer:




lol @ PoUtonian making silly and irrelevant distinctions between Nuclear ships and subs and Nuclear weapons?

So, I really have to spoon feed this slowTad that Nuclear ships and subs carry Nukes? grin grin

Do you not know that all the US Navy fleets from 1st to six all carry Nukes?

PoUTIN always recruits the slowest supporters I swear..


grin grin


Stop showing your ignorance and childishness.
Even an idiot knows not all US Navy or Russian ships or subs carry nuclear weapons.

Back to basics, you still need to learn the difference between nuclear powered vessels and nuclear weapon vessels. Not all nuclear powered vessels carry nuclear weapons.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Nuclear War. What Is The Meaning Of MAD? by GerogeI(m): 9:34am On Apr 29, 2022
plaindealer:




To start with, Nuclear targets are populated areas, major states, towns and cities, not open deserts to blow up every inch of any country.

The topic is MAD so if you are going to spew endless essays and irrelevant rants, why not just convince us that MAD won't happen in case of any Nuke strike by Russia.

How hard is the topic to digest?


Nuclear targets can be population centers and can also be deserts. Depends in the goal or strategy. The dangers of nuclear bombs is not the immediate explosion, but the millions of fragments of fissile material it will scatter over about 30km radius for the average bomb. So it can also be use to confine a population to a restricted area for the next 100 years.

MAD is nuclear weapons, and Nuclear weapons is MAD. Like you said, its a theory, howbeit it has not been tested. Hypersonic missiles is just one way it can all go wack. Am sure both US and Russia have been thinking of other ways.

For example the research in atomic collisions (CERN) is actually an effort into the possibility of using antimatter to to annihilate nuclear warheads without consequences. How much that has progressed is unknown, but theoretically possible.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Nuclear War. What Is The Meaning Of MAD? by GerogeI(m): 9:14am On Apr 29, 2022
plaindealer:



Typical PouTinian, always bragging with meaningless rubbish? Always boasting with useless numbers when in fact you don't even need half of that to destroy the world.

US Navy Six Fleet with Nuclear ships, Nuclear subs in the Black Sea next to Russia and Meditaranian get enough Nukes to evaporate Russia, they don't even have to fire anything from the US.

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That's a stupid conjecture rising from ignorance.

Let me educate you again: First make distinction between nuclear powered and nuclear weaponized ships. Its not everytime you hear nuclear submarine that the reference is to nuclear war heads. No, the nuclear subs mostly refer to the power source for the engine. They use nuclear fuels to generate heat that drives a sterling engine or its variation. So they never rise for refueling and can stay underwater for months at a time.

A nuclear weaponized ship will not carry more than 2 to 5 nuclear war heads, considering the weight of launch systems.
That's will hardly dent a country with large mass like Russia or US. grin grin grin grin


I think you are just a kid, more concerned with sounding right than the true realities of war.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Nuclear War. What Is The Meaning Of MAD? by GerogeI(m): 9:10am On Apr 29, 2022
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Your irrelevant opinion remains irrelevant, you are not NATO and you and your Kremlin master don't speak for NATO.

If den born Potin well, let him fire one single bullet inside Poland or even small LATVIA next door and see how fast NATO go storm Russia with devastating annihilation.

When we debate facts, you people always show face with your meaningless opinion with zero sense of reality.





You are even slower than I thought.
Putin has no interest invading Poland. The US knows that already. The European politicians are just feeding the fears of their populace. The separation from Poland to Ukraine is more than sufficient protection for Russia. However, Finland is a different story, if Finland joins NATO, that your NATO article 5 might be put to some serious test.

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