₦airaland Forum

kikuyu1:
Son,I live in the real world and I can't, won't argue! Check some facts yourself-who was the owner of the Westgate?

Son? Not everything you see online that is true. Heck! Even major news outlets sometime come up with false news.

jakeporeshenko:
It’s 707 special forces brigade based in Makurdi, they are the guys that liberated parts of Baga from the hands of ISWAP in Jan
Their exploits are in the news, nothing like “If YoU kNoW yoU knOW”

Why you want burst man bubble na?

kikuyu1:
Don't take this the wrong way but this like all Israeli ops was a false flag. Its been established beyond doubt all PLO factions and their leaders including Yasser Arafat himself were Mossad agents.

You like conspiracy theories too much, maybe an effect of reading fictional books.

bidexiii:

If you where a soldier, you can't say that to your fellow comrade. You never can tell if is going to take a bullet for you, probably cover your back or help you when you are wounded. And you just told him to be far from you

Oga sir why do soldiers camouflage? This one is making himself very visible. I will still tell him to move far away if he doesn't want to take off that clothe.

bidexiii:
#COIN

You see that guy on purple, if I was to be with them, I will always tell him to be far far away from me. That's an x marks the spot. Even world War 2 soldiers don't dress with colors like that.

Stephandeswardt:
See as the guy is shooting heaven......and no sargent and above to instruct him on how to shoot in the ditch..

Guy man dey fear to look over the trench. Lol,who wan die?

Xbee007:
This is a video of soldiers allegedly battling BHTs in the North East.

Abeg what weapon were they firing, in the first few seconds into the video, that was making that whooshing sound?

No wonder after a firefight they end up killing just 3 or 5 BHT, are BH birds that that soldier is shooting in the air?

ugo4u:
Absolute greed is the problem with most Nigerian leaders irrespective of the sector they find themselves. Over the years I've always drive the notion that most of them need a psychiatrist because their's (greed) is not normal, corruption (Bribery/contract lobbying) is everywhere even in advanced societies like US, UK etc but they make sure they carryout the duties required first then bargain for a percentage which most atimes is from the profit of the beneficiary not necessarily from government cofers but for Nigeria case na glutonous greed they worry us, they will over inflate a contract, underpay the contractors and still demand for percentage formerly 10% now it is 70% . That is why Nigerian governors love to build Airport, Flyovers, bridges etc even when they know such projects are not needed but they still go ahead to award such contracts which never see the light of the day because that's one avenue to enrich themselves e.g Delta state that smaller than wushishi LG in Niger state has 2 airports that hadly generate traffic is this not madness? They leave in affluence and their subject wallow in abject poverty while they use the looted funds to buy properties in Dubai, Europe and US and you people want to tell me we're all not running mad in Nigeria.

Lol, rastaman madness as written by Odunayaw. But seriously Nigeria is a pathetic country and the worst thing is that they act that they are doing us a favour. I pray that in due time there will be judgement day for all this kleptomaniacs.

[quote author=BabaOwen post=75974544][/quote]If it were to be a general would the army be slow in responding to him? Why should the military wait until it gets to social media before they take action? Why should it even be reported that the "chief of army staff ordered that the man should be flown abroad for treatment", as if the army is his fiefdom, are there no institutions in the army to take care of issues like this? These people are appointed to serve us and they act as if they are doing us a favour. The chief of army staff and the Nigerian people should be thanking this patriotic man for his service to the nation.

ugo4u:
Don't be surprised by 2moro the army will release a statement denying it infact they might say there are processes and procedures to be embarked before the army give him a proper treatment because they are following best practices on wounded soldiers. That na if them no outrightly deny the incident and the man. That's how we have lost every ounce of patriotism from the citizens, just imagine where an able-bodied man is begging for his leg to be amputated.
Suffice to say Nurses and some health care givers in most military institutions are pure witches, the nonchalant attitude towards humans even their own colleagues is appalling. May God help this country.

If they give these patriots prompt medical care it still doesn't stop them from their embezzlement or is it absolute greed;as in I want it all and nothing else. Or is this a mental disorder to these kleptocrats? Somehow a diagnosis is needed.

BabaOwen:
As shared by Bello.....

'THE NIGERIAN ARMY ABANDONS ARMY CAPTAIN ATTACKED BY ARMED BANDITS WITH GRENADE IN ZAMFARA. BATTLES FOR LIFE IN PRIVATE HOSPITAL IN ABUJA

A Captain in the Nigerian Army has been abandoned by the Army and left to die after being attacked with a Grenade by Armed Bandits in Zamfara on the 29th December 2018.

The captain who served in various parts of Borno state including Chibok,when Boko Haram was at it's peak,fought many battles some side by side with the Late Col.Abu Ali, engaged Boko Haram terrorists for 6 whole years,after which the Army posted him to Zamfara(giving him no rest whatsoever ever in 7years from the battle field) when the issue of Armed Bandits started getting out of hand.

On the 29th December 2018, while out on a clearance operation in the forests of Zurmi Local Government of Zamfara state, the officers and soldiers were attacked in ambush by Armed Bandits, many soldiers lost their lives..The Grenade that the Armed Bandits threw at the officers shattered the Captains legs,and several particules of the explosive entered and spread into several parts of his body. This on it's own, is also some sort of poisoning to his body.

The soldiers were immediately taken to FMC Gusau,few days after,Governor Yari and the Zamfara state Government officials visited him in FMC Gusau and offered to pay
his medical bills and so he was transferred to a private hospital in Abuja..

We deeply and sincerely want to thank the Zamfara State Governor and the Zamfara State Government for coming in when the Army proved inefficient and neglective.But is it the Zamfara State Government's duty to take care of Military personnel injured in battle?

The Young Captain has undergone over 10 surgeries with very little progress.
The injured officer has asked several times that his legs be amputated because of severe and unbearable pains..

We are left to wonder why the Defence Headquarters hasn't even sent a single representative to check on him,up till the time i write this,neither has any attempt been made to pay his bills or even fly him abroad for proper treatment by the Nigerian Army. We know very well this is something the Army can afford comfortably and effortlessly.

He needs urgent help, We call on the leadership of the Army to intervene at this point. After 2 months in the hospital and having undergone several surgeries,his legs are rottening,his entire body is depreciating, he is dying slowly, why will the Army turns a blind eye?
How can this be done to an officer who left everything he loved,his comfort,his family to serve his country? How does this motivate anyone to join the Nigerian Military?

What is the officer's crime other than he fought terrorists so that we live? He stood in between us and the terrorists, He got this injury trying to protect us all. This is a man who will take a bullet for any of us. Is this how the Government and Army should pay him back? are they not aware,he has parents,siblings,relatives, friends,family and loved ones too? Don't they know,we feel pain too?

If our military officers are treated this way by the Army,upon getting injury from battle,how do we ever win the war against terrorism in this country?

He spent 10years serving in the Army and 7years in operation theatre,he should at least be appreciated by getting the best medical attention the Army can afford.

General Buratai I hope this gets to you and the President. Let Your conscience guide you to do the right thing for this young,brave, gallant officer.

Do not let his sacrifice for this country amount to nothing, he doesn't deserve this cruel treatment from the Army Leadership.

Finally,I make this passionate appeal to everyone who reads this,help us get this to Buratai by sharing and to the Commander in chief,let them intervene please'


Source: http://www.trezzyhelm.com/2019/02/army-abandon-gallant-soldier-fighting.html

For God's sake what is wrong with this country? This makes me to wonder if the devil is a Nigerian.

fabselad:
When you look at this marvel of engineering and you compare it with the Nigerian Proforce MRAP lol.It is like comparing a Mercedes Benz S class or C class 2019 with a Toyota corolla 1994.

(I beg na just for laugh no hard feelings.lol )

This was obviously written for a reason,to start a Nigeria vs SA again, but thank God the people that are supposed to reply you are probably not here. We will take your jab in good stride and move on. Enjoy.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/02/sunni-jihad-turns-away-transnational-terrorism/582745/



One of the reasons we are having these local militants everywhere that are sunnis.

Odunayaw:
It beats me. I never believe poverty is a fuel for terrorism. I mean how does blowing myself up get me rich!

True.

Odunayaw:
Troops of 143 Bn, 28 Task Force Brigade, Sector 1 Op Lafiya Dole recently at Madagali Adamawa State

https://mobile.twitter.com/HQNigerianArmy/status/1095779897417580545/photo/1

This is what I like

Why can't these guys just close shop and allow everyone to live in peace, must it be 72 virgins. Haba!
I'm still trying to figure out how someone could talk people into strapping themselves with bombs or drive a VBIED to hell. Shekau and Al barnawi are still alive, abi dem no get legs or sabi drive car?

E don be for this one. Dem catch you on BH uniform, which kind deny you want deny now. The guy face never swell up.

bidexiii:
More

allexpensive:
The navy lost some men in Calabar unfortunately they're close pals.

These are not unusual but it's a bad thing that these things just happen and go.

RIP heroes.

I don't want to sound like a harbinger of bad news but I feel that winter is coming, I say this with trepidation. Something seem to be happening on every part of Nigeria and as you said, "... These things just happen and go." The CinC seem to have abandoned his responsibilities and always on the campaign trail.

Odunayaw:
Oh dear. We can't even protect ourselves!

I don't believe its BH tho, there are some factors I consider. If those terrorists want to attack our rear it would be at Gombe.

I have been watching the axis of banditry in the NW [Zamfara,NE Katsina and Sokoto]. The borders with Niger are just too unattended. The attended ones are riddled with self serving Immigration idiots.

The illegal gold rink in Zamfara used to/currently serve as a raison d'être for banditry. The food we keep under our beds are the reasons for our household pests.
If you don't do your jobs without prejudice it comes back to hurt you no matter how long it takes

My earlier argument that there is a #BokoHaram component in the crisis in Zamfara is reinforced by the modus operandi of the armed gangs, esp how they execute some of their victims. No doubt, there is a terrorism component, there is also the cattle rustling component, ethnic etc.-Ahmed Salkida

Odunayaw:
Hopefully its not mundane way of only cordons and stop and search

The NPF are quite inept, Zamfara didn't become volatile just last year, its been systemic spanning 5yrs [based on small reports between 2013-204]. Its this ineptitude that has made it look like there is another "Front"

Where is the CIID of that state? Haven't they been building an organogram of the players in that state? This blunt force won't solve matters in the long term, the bandits would only migrate to another state, set up shop and begin to do damage again [prime example are the scoundrels that move Nasarawa-Kogi-Benue route]

Ahmed Salkida wrote that from the reports he's receiving there's a tell tale sign of BH in Zamfara because of the bandits mode of operation,they slit throats and burn houses.

Read an article about the connection between ISIS and ISWAP and Mohammed Uwais son that joined ISIS came to mind. I googled and this is what I found, didn't know he was already dead. I hope DSS did a good job about his family. http://saharareporters.com/2016/10/08/wife-children-former-chief-justice-uwais-late-son-detained-their-return-syria
And I hope DSS, DIA and NIA are doing something about this returning fighters.

jln115:
I literally said the exact same thing as frumentius:



ME:



Also ME:



SO what other processes did i not describe??

No need going back and forth. It's OK.

Odunayaw:
Could you read the full article? Please paste here if yes

Read the full article free initially, don't know why they are now asking to subscribe. The link was from their twitter handle.

jln115:
Original question:


My response:

Frumentius was able to understand where I was coming from. Me was referring to a career as being done with basics,that's when you are actually a soldier,you passed through all the processes successfully. I couldn't understand it that as a university graduate, you will have to progress through the ranks to attain a general(which is almost impossible) until frumentius explained the complete process. I initially thought it was as being done here : the officer Corp is mostly from NDA where you graduate as a Lt, and enlisted from Nigerian army depot where some of them graduate as PRIVATES. You said everybody starts as private including university graduates but you didn't include the other processes described by frumentius.

This people ehn
https://www.wsj.com/articles/islamic-state-seeking-next-chapter-makes-inroads-through-west-africa-11549220824?redirect=amp#click=https:///hmL1hmY0Qi

frumentius:
I suspect crossed lines here:
We are looking at a military career starting when someone shows up for Basics/MSDS - as a private. I suspect Geronimoe sees the start of a military career immediately post-basics.

After all the back and forth, I think I misunderstood jln. It's different here in Nigeria.
P.S. Does a career include when you are learning?

jln115:
Original question:


My response:

Obviously when someone is finished with basics.

frumentius:
Pardon my tardiness, been busy with checking out, checking in with the Reserves etc.

1) Regardless of whether matriculant or graduate, rightly, all are equal at MSDS/basics (the instructors are NCOs and naturally give graduates i.e. future officers, a hard time);

2) Broadly across Army, Air Force, Navy and Health Services, MSDS encompasses:

- In the first year of MSDS:
--- Basic military training and functional training;
--- Service-specific training;
--- Participation in practical military exercises;
--- Combat-ready training exercises;
--- Selection of junior leaders (matriculants with promise who pass the Selection are put on the NCO stream; graduates on Officer stream).

- In the second year of MSDS expect:
--- To undergo young officers formative training;
--- Junior leaders (officers) will receive leader group service training;
--- A selection process for officers to study at the Military Academy;
--- A focus on the utilisation and deployment of MSDS troops.

3) After 2 years of MSDS, either a contract on the regulars, or the Reserve Force.

For the purposes of this discussion, university graduates who come through the above attain the rank of LT.

There is a reason why I quoted you and your last words in bold. At a point in time on this same topic I had to ask if you guys have an officer training school. If I'm not wrong, my deduction from what you wrote is that MSDS is not the end school for officer training, it's just to learn the rudimentary of military life and from there the best are selected for officer training depending on grade and whatever else. Correct? My question is how can you start your military career as a private as a university graduate?