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austino677:
After the death late president Hage Geingob... No development.. Oil discovery is same as Nigeria.. Namibians are not benefiting from it... I just returned from Namibia this September... Botswana future is bright
If you want to see the real nambia.. Check out

To be fair though, the oil discovery is a recent finding. Drilling platforms are being installed, but no gushing of oil till 2030. So, as it is, no oil revenue. That said, the previous president was there and other resources such as uranium, diamonds, copper plus agro-commodities (livestock especially) were available as sources of revenue. What did he use them for?

How is Botswana's future brighter when it depends disproportionately on diamonds amidst the rise in lab-created diamonds? Also, Botswana is landlocked, and this limits economic progress especially if surrounding nations are equally poorer.

IbeOkehie:
If you come to the Anglosphere we will make sure you're trapped here like the rest of us.
No more Japanese rice and chicken thighs for you. You better stop laughing at us.

Na Baltimore I go send you.... Nonsense and ingredients.

I really want to visit and see things for myself. Take the time to tour the UK, France, Canada, Italy, Germany and the US. I have even got a pet project to fulfil if time and money permits. Hopefully, a book comes out of it because no one has attempted it. That said, I applaud East Asians for their immigration and law enforcement policies so far.

God will NOT fix Nigeria. Nigerians love their country EXACTLY the way it is, that's why they've made that way. Yes, that's true.

Good Luck to Nigeria

Thanks for quoting that post. I even forgot. Please adonainana should remember that most of his folks who do odd jobs in the UK campaigned and voted for Buhari in 2015. They should not complain.

Akwukalia:
It is the reality. Best dîî/nwunye wey fit hasten up ur GC matter na citizen or highly skilled GC holder wey dey earn in 6figures. But if Ur nwunye/dï na GC holder & earns in 5figures he fit take > 2months.
If you marry come stay for 9ja for 2yrs, when u enter land of opportunities, them go knack you 10yrs GC straight which will be a smoother process to getting that blue pp. By the way, uncle na tall fine man in the built of Hanks Anuku of 2000s.
I don attach WhatsApp screenshot . Will delete soon

Thanks for the info. Please what is that machine there?

Based on his Hanks' look, I see why he got an African American quite quick.

austino677:
Botswana yes... Namibia nowadays is going bad

I am curious, what is happening in Namibia, and why? Shey oil was discovered there? Aside Guyana, that is the place with the highest number of newly installed oil rigs o in the world.

MatrixReloaded:
If you say something misleading i will give u wotowoto

Good! Let the games begin!

IbeOkehie:
Their economies are run by Anglo cultured European settlers...they were ruled by the British or English if you may.

Take them out of those places and the result in 25 years will be Nigeria. Look at Zimbabwe.. Or maybe they're learning a new culture. Who knows... Good Luck to Nigeria

Mugabe and Zimbabwe in general got sanctioned. And we know why. It is not a complete 100% fault. Thankfully, Zimbabwe has attracted real sector investments from the Chinese these days. What about the destruction of the Black Wall Street in the US?

IbeOkehie:
I followed you here. Nice discussion. This your comment is problematic. Your generation can be the solution.

The more important thing is that Black Africans simply lack or have lost the intellect or ability to create livable nation spaces. That is why the USA should be careful about the KINDS of people they allow into our country. It's not about race, it's culture. Good Luck to Nigeria.

It is on the race entirely regardless of nationality or location. But then, Botswana and Namibia are seemingly well-run.

Large numbers of people with poor culture is detrimental.

Agreed.

And you wonder why some societies prosper: merit. It reminds me of the Bini man who graduated with a PhD from a Japanese university. He was supposed to get the academic position as stated in the requirements, but a Japanese, who was his junior then, was employed. Later on, he was emailed that he had been appointed to the same position and got an apology because the requirement wasn't initially fulfilled as stated.

P.S. He supported Buhari in 2015, 2019 and Tinubu in 2023. He describes himself as an intellectwat!

OP supports Tinubu and most likely supported Buhari, both men who perform medical operations in the West. When last did Turkish or Malaysian leaders do the same in the UK or France?

Tomorrow, he would open his mouth to chant "I am an intellectwat" because he managed to string some alphabets of the English language.

ednut1:
block account for a single person to Germany is 11,900 euros. Thats like 21m. Now imagine this person has a wife and child 🥴

Except for those with a first class, graduated before a certain year and have a scholarship, the rest of the student applications to Germany from Nigeria takes at least 18 months to get an interview date, not the visa itself. (this is me being conservative).

cc: OkanlawonB

discusant:
Lol. Placing Nigeria and Great Britain on the same table for choice of apex political leadership is like placing darkness and light on the same table.Nigeria has a huge Muslim population majority of whom are extremely preoccupied with efforts at making Nigeria an Islamic Republic.
Such population will not vote a Peter for president. They would rather vote their fellow Muslim even if starvation shall be the result of their choice. Martyrdom.
Great Britain does not have a huge population of Muslims whose majority strive for an Islamic Republic of Great Britain.

This means in the near future, Nigeria will become a full fledged Islamic Republic. Abi no be so?

RodgersAkpafu:
I have similar sentiment despite being an immigrant myself. There is a reason why we left the third world in the first place. We don't want a semblance of that here in the west. Africa (Nigeria esp) has a huge uneducated misbehaving underclass who, if allowed to flood the west will fuvxk it up. Look at the Italian experience with African migrants for reference. Canada had the right approach with the whole express entry to sieve out riff raffs to remain in their third world. unfortunately they got greedy and messed it up using sub par schools as a window to rip off ppl and the result is what u are seeing. I'm not against migration. But for God's sakes. let the riff raffs remain in Africa, don't bring your riff raffles here. I was in Bradford June last year. God forbid bad thing. If you go there, you will know why some of us are apprehensive of open door policy. We are all human beings o
but some (sub groups) have more work to do on themselves in order to be deemed civil and civilised
If that makes me appear snobbish or classist
then it is what it is

All cultures are not equal. The greater the presence of certain group of people, the greater the lovey-dovey policies enacted by the politicians. The entire West (bar Denmark, Switzerland and a few) are in that stage. They call people like myself Uncle Toms, but how come certain cultures make a place for better or for worse across every region across the globe?

"Of course not all cultures are equally valid"

Tory leadership candidate Kemi Badenoch says "cultures that believe in child marriage, or that women don't have equal rights" are not in line with "Western principles" #BBCLauraK https://t.co/efV6wgVKgw pic.twitter.com/xOGLlyXc0M

— BBC Politics (@BBCPolitics) September 29, 2024

At the bold, for a first generation Nigerian migrant to complain about Bradford, then it must be so terrible. I fit go there for some analysis. Let me see lovey-dovey policies live and direct.

cc: IbeOkehie

MatrixReloaded:
When you tell such lies I wonder if you were conceived by a woman. I only highlight if anyone that have residency in Ethiopia can apply for m
I'm writing this to let you know. I don't care if you use AI or Metasplot or Chatgtp or even Reddit, Quora or Github. The real deal is I am very sure you should focus your energy where you are and let this matter lay off whilst I give those with aim of coming to Europe the next chapter of my motivation. Shalom.

Good. Let's keep it this way. If you mention my moniker again unnecessarily, na me and you go wear the same trousers.

Enjoy your sojourn in Hungary.

IbeOkehie:
All the factors you wrote above result from Anglo-Saxon culture, dominated by the Anglo tribe. While they conquered and settled the USA, the Spanish and Portuguese took over Mexico, Brazil and many other countries in Latin America. The factors you enumerated are more part of the culture in the USA than in Mexico, Cuba and many other places. In fact Argentina used to be the richest country in the world but now has one of the worst economies.

All those things like rule of law, less corruption, democracy, free markets, adaptability, hard work and such are CULTURAL, they're byproducts of the habits of a certain kind of people. There's an interview I posted on Nairaland, a discussion between Vivek Ramanswany and Anne Coulter. The lady is Anglo-Saxon and she made an astounding claim - [b]that the Anglos are the most honest and fair people in the
Good Luck to USA.

Nowadays, we have many dishonest people. If not, why is it difficult to admit that development is largely dependent on the culture of the inhabitants? Move Ibibios to Somalia, and Somalis to Akwa Ibom. By 2034, today's Akwa Ibom WOULD resemble today's Somalia and vice-versa. All cultures are not equal. Kemi Badenoch rightfully stated such:

"Of course not all cultures are equally valid"

Tory leadership candidate Kemi Badenoch says "cultures that believe in child marriage, or that women don't have equal rights" are not in line with "Western principles" #BBCLauraK https://t.co/efV6wgVKgw pic.twitter.com/xOGLlyXc0M

— BBC Politics (@BBCPolitics) September 29, 2024

Ofodirinwa:
You think Anglo-Saxons created the US because that's what they've told you. The United States was a collaborative creation and development made by people from several cultures, since beginning and to date.

A collaborative effort by people related to Anglo-Saxons, not just every other group.

Nigerian Americans also contribute disproportionately to creating tools, products and processes, as do Indian Americans (to a greater extent than Nigerian Americans)

LOL @ disproportionately. The Chinese have done more for the US than what Indians and Nigerians have done combined. The intriguing thing is: the Chinese have replicated the same across ALL Chinese dominated regions. Have Nigerians and Indians done the same?

Akwukalia:
I had to login to reply you and correct your missinformation of the red bold.
My uncle (My mama them last born that stayed with us), whom I am very close to, got married to his AA FBk lover, and within 3 months he arrived the land of opportunities. Within 2 months of arriving the land of opportunities, he got his 2 years GC (according to him, he for get am since but him wife paused the process unto say she dey suspect infidelity). I don learn alot from wetin uncle dey tell me, but I no fit talk am here. By the way, uncle go clock 51 by Dec, & the kind progress him don make eh, God punish our leaders past & present.

Interesting tale from your uncle. I find the bold surprising. But then, what do I know?

Levels1:
Ogun State ? where in Ogun State and hope not state capital ? Now I conclude 99.9% information on this forum are lies

It is the Tribune, not Nairaland. The Tribune Newspaper is notorious for fake news.

The Tribune again?

Fake news as it gets. Gombe, Jigawa and a few other states especially in the North-East have almost constant electricity supply.

P.S. Except for very few places, the phrase "constant electricity" does not apply to the rest of the country.

Esinwaju:
This thread is a mess. It's almost as if nobody played the video and if they did I doubt if they comprehended what was said. She is not mocking anybody. She is only highlighting the limitations of being an immigrant in a system that can offer much more than just certain types of jobs. Many immigrants are highly skilled in many areas so it should be a case of round pegs in round holes for them. How this flew over so many heads is what I'm actually shocked about.

Most first generation immigrants in the abroad don't like political parties opposed to relaxed immigration or open borders. So don't expect any African or Indian to see her in a good light even if she offers her life for it.

discusant:
She couldn't have meant to mock any group.

She said she had conquered fear because she came from Nigeria where fear is the order of the day.
She was robust in debate and attracted the highest number of prolonged applause more than her counterparts. The smile on her lips each time she stopped speaking due to prolonged applause was radiant. The smile can change the attitude of a most hostile person towards her.
If not for the deep-seated..... in UK society, she should win the Conservative party leadership.

You mean like the deep-seated.....in Nigeria, if not an Igbo man should not be bashed for aspiring to become Nigeria's president?

It is always funny to read Nigerians accuse others of racial or national discrimination.

oluwaahmed:
But it's the truth now. 80% of students in the UK and wiping yash as care workers and it's the care agencies that will sponsor your Tier 2. Goodluck looking for sponsorship with your BA or PM MSc.

Is it really that hard or bad to get a good job in the non-care industry? You mean employers are not sponsoring foreign students even those with degrees from British universities?

obataokenwa:
The rivalry in Nigerian tribe will still be a setback if eventually she qualify to lead the conservative party. Will other non yorubas in the UK vote her? Just a harmless question.

Lol! The majority of Nigerians in the UK are Yorubas. So, hypothetically, if only Nigerians are to vote in an election, she will win based on tribal affiliation. Your question should be thrown to white people who make up the Conservative Party biggest support group. Would they want to have a black African woman who was born and bred till teenage age as the party's leader?

P.S. She has done well for herself though. Much respect.

APOPTOSIS:
It's painful, no doubt because these people bring value and human capacity to a Nation but we all know what Nigeria is today.
People can barely feed. The worst is, the Lawlessness and Impunity have become so endemic that minsters can now threaten humans on live TV, EFCC now investigates EFCC.

I doubt that Nigerians can barely feed. Someone must have lied to you.

It wasn't this bad during OBJ.. Neverrrr. Humans have to look for quality of life. Your quality of life should come first above profession, except the profession gives you the desired quality of life. But that's not the case for a lot of people in Nigeria.

Agreed at the bold. But remember these people campaigned and voted for Buhari in 2015.

They should not complain.

My Elder sister, a professor in Nigeria now does Carpool with her colleagues just to get to the university every morning to teach. She told me so. Her car is parked now.

Varied public transport systems should be well developed in the country. Where I live, the executives use the train. Cars are parked at home and used during the weekends. It is mostly housewives and other well-off folks I see drive exotic cars during weekdays.

maternal:
Are you comparing naija to Canada ?

Gerrard59:
So it is in Canada that 26M will go a long way for a married man, his wife and son? Ths same Canada we see posts about on Reddit, Instagram and Twitter? That Canada?

That would answer your question as the grass is greener where one waters it, not necessarily where there is land.

A distasteful statement from her, but she is no different from the average migrant who later becomes a naturalised citizen. If given the opportunity, they will bar their kith from entering the country. I won't lie too, I can be that kind of person as well.

BigIyanga:
But her kids , if any, wont study: medicine, nursing, pharmacy, engineering, math, physics… migrants will study to get ahead and they keep complaining. Chinese , Korean, Japanese kids in their countries want to become lawyers, engineers, doctors, pharmacists unlike UK kids who want to be TikTokers and Yourubers.. Yes, migrants will beat there asszz in college tests and unis… and then wipe their azssz in hospitals too? Their selfish kids dont even want to visit them in their sick bed😂😂

To be clear though, Chinese, Koreans and Japanese aren't the ones working in the care sector.

maternal:
Hello all,

If you got 26 M naira tomorrow, do you stay or japa ? I have a friend who inherited 26 M with a wife and son. He has decided to stay. I can't see that money lasting more than 2 years with today's economy in naija.

Fellow nairalander, what would you do ? Stay and invest, or leave ?

So it is in Canada that 26M will go a long way for a married man, his wife and son? Ths same Canada we see posts about on Reddit, Instagram and Twitter? That Canada?

ndidibabe:
You want to pour 40k pounds into a Nigerian bank? I left more than NGN8 million in heritage bank before relocating abroad and now that the bank has collapsed, i doubt if i will ever get that money back. If all you depend on is to save 40k pound abroad and relocate to Nigeria to fix it in a commercial bank , you might regret it.

I can recall when that bank opened. I am curious, what made you open an account with a greenhorn bank to the extent you had 8 million inside?

ednut1:
lol true. My friend in shell told me he has over 100m Naira bank balance. Some of my ogas in the course of my career have houses in choice areas in Lagos. Even the popular Jar.us is making it in real estate. But unfortunately these people are few and many are living below the poverty level in Nigeria.

The bold is true, especially outside Lagos, Abuja, Kano and Port-harcourt. Ibadan and Enugu/Anambra might be included. However, we have to define what success is before labelling those outside the afore-mentioned areas as "unsuccessful" or "poor". The presence of dead capital is one major reason most people are termed "unsuccessful", else proper land titles and holdings are enough to rate most Nigerians as successful.

Shueld06:
As we all know that it’s not possible for any Nigerian to be successful in life And become rich without leaving Nigeria and without relocating to UK, Europe etc. I might be wrong but if you’ve seen anyone successful in naija without moving abroad first, pls quote me on this.

That is entirely wrong. My first case study is my mom who worked in Nigeria and her only sojourn outside Nigeria was being sponsored by her organisation for an external program, and a pilgrimage to Israel (self sponsored). The rest were to Francophone countries (in West Africa o) as she speaks French. I don't know how you define success, but by every material assessment, she is a successful woman.

Two, my first boss who had his academic degrees in Nigeria and only visits abroad for sponsored training and holidays. He too is successful.

Three, I have classmates/friends/acquaintances who work for good companies in Nigeria with just their BSc. One at NNPC, the other at an investment bank and another at a top bank. Another worked at the same top bank and now works in a public regulatory agency. None of them have been to the international wing of any airport in Nigeria. I write this to illustrate how Nigerian-bred they are. These people are successful. I have another classmate who started her baking business from scratch and built it to the point she employs people (permanent and contract-based). She also organises training sponsored by corporate organisations. I doubt she has a passport and I bet nothing concerns her with japa. She probably doesn't even know what the term means. There are others I attended a certification course with who work in top consulting firms in Nigeria. Again, they have never been abroad.

Additionally, I have another who loves her job and even when I mentioned working for multinational organisations (in the same industry) in either Dubai or the UK, she declined saying "G59, I love Nigeria and what I do". She even declined the marriage proposal of a Canadian-based Nigerian. Although, her reason was that he wanted four children, which she disagreed with.

Not everyone is fazed by living abroad. Humans are different and thus, have different aims in life.

So, this afternoon I passed by a new restaurant and club house recently built by one of our guy who has been in Lagos for years (seems like he’s very well made in Lagos) so he came back and build this, I saw lot of young guys packing their cars and patronizing the club house and music flying around.

So, how come you say you haven't met any successful Nigerian who didn't work or study abroad?

What’s painful is that words going around say this guy spent over 100Million naira to invest in this club house. This is well over the amount of money needed to japa to UK with his family. This guy just missed out on what a lot of Nigerians are dying for. Why investing that much when you can use this money to relocate? Is it that some people don’t have anyone advise them? He’s better off selling that place and pack the money and leave for good

In the first place, I don't fancy the UK for any reason. I don't know why. But it is strange to find it odd that someone decided to invest in Nigeria and live where he made his money. Some people are like that. Everyone gets his choice to make. So you want an investor (100 million invested) to leave for the UK? If I may ask, to do what exactly there?

ednut1:
are you aware that those for many of those who japa to uk on study visa in the last 3 years. their 2 years post graduate visa is about to expire and no hope of getting sponsored job? . The care job they were using to get sponsorship UK has revoked many of the licenses because of wild spread fraud. So that guy should japa with that money and get stranded later? What are you saying . Those in health care related fields are getting jobs in NHS sha. But the guy in question which skills does he have to secure a work sponsorship 🥴. I support sensible japa but saying people dont make it in Nigeria is false. Those selling lace/ Ankara in lagos Island made it, those selling plumbing materials/ building materials made it. Wedding planners, make up artists, photographers made it. Abeg rest

Even in the corporate world, people still make it. There are many many of such people, and I am sure you know them. I have advised someone here to apply to jobs in Nigeria with his master's from a top Japanese university rather than do English teaching, he no gree say the salary in Nigeria won't be high. I don't know why Nigerians love converting earnings when they don't spend naira in the abroad. The only time I know the exchange rate is when I send money to my sister. Every expense in my head is recorded in Yen.

trollx:
@tensazangetsu20
Only God knows how much money this dude has that's making him brag with the high-horse like this... I understand the youthful-exuberance, like seeing money you never dreamt of or expected to see/have in your entire life 😂 💰Your thread/post is educative kind of; stick to it and stop being childish. T for Thanks!

What about those who mocked him for his decision? He is petty, and I love it! He is even better than myself in the art and science of pettiness.