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Skyview01:
I worked in a predominantly Yoruba company and an Igbo guy will never smell promotions or better positions. Before that, I worked at a predominantly Igbo company and a Yoruba person will never be given a good position.

An Ethiopian will prefer to patronize their fellow citizens and pay a higher price than to patronize other nationals.

I know a lot of Anambara women who will never allow their child to marry Imo or Ebonyi person.

I see lots of Igbos look down on Ebonyi people and the list goes on.

We like to play the victimhood card but I have come to realize that blacks are one of the most discriminatory among all the races on earth

Maybe that is why we might never be wealthy as a race. We would be worse than those we criticise.

TheCongo2:
The subtle nuances are the reason why seventy-three percent of the senior executives, men and women, are white. While only 2% are black.
For the advancement of black people, we can't ignore subtle racism.

@Professor822714

Those are white dominated countries. Why do you want them not to dominate the executive positions? How many whites dominate executive positions in black dominated countries? Why should the majority not dominate their country? You people want to reap where you don't sow. Whites built their countries. Go and build yours and impose your rules. That is what the Japanese and Chinese did.

Skyview01:
See Obiano walking his dog comfortably in the US without an iota of shame.
Why couldn't he build a covered drainage in Anambara during his 8year rule so others could walk their dogs or kids ride their bikes.

Why allow IPOB and UGM to become a monster under his watch so much that others cannot walk their dogs safely on the street. That is one example of a black man with black mentality.

35years ago, the Chinese were heavily racially profiled but see what they have managed to acheived within a short span of time.

Out of every 5 blacks on the earth, 1 is a Nigerian. That is the ratio of Nigeria to the black world population. If Nigeria could get her shits together, respects for blacks would skyrocket worldwide and racism will reduce.

The energy we put into religion and tribalism, we could use same energy to develop Nigeria and elect credible leaders.

I nor dey join any yeye BLM protests.

Thank you ooooooooo

https://www.nairaland.com/5886610/racism-against-blacks-reduce-drastically

As for the Chinese, they have suffered a lot. They were denied naturalisation status in the US based on their nationality. World powers then humiliated and punished the Chinese. China was divided across many parts by these World Powers. Japanese soldiers raped Chinese women and seized Taiwan. British colonial masters fed the Chinese with drugs and seized Hong Kong. Portuguese sailors seized Macau.

Today, as a result of their wealth, no one dares discriminate against the Chinese. When one says this to black people, one sees them ranting about capitalism, whereas that is the only economic system that has pulled more people out of poverty.

oakenfold:
A lot of self-hating black people here. Inferiority complex to the power max. Excusing the racism that is meted out to them.
And a lot of denial of racism. "If e no happen to me, e no dey happen anywhere" is absolutely idiotic of an opinion.

It is not self-hating but an assessment of the whole issue. If I were in Lagos in February, I would have been flogged. Even non-Igbos were flogged. More than 500 farmers in Plateau were butchered by people who looked like them. If those 500 farmers were in South Korea, would they have been butchered?

Blacks have no moral right to complain about racism, especially as no black-dominated country (population above 5 million) is prosperous.

Skyview01:
As much as I despise racism, some of the rednecks may have a little justification for racism and if I may play the devil's advocate for a bit. Their country is developed, they've managed to build a working system through sheer hard work over the years and some of them have never had contact with blacks before. Also, there are some places where blacks are always in the news for the wrong reason all the time.

What exactly is the reason behind tribalism? All the tribes in Nigeria are equally backward with very little to show the last time I checked and we are the same fvucking black skin.

Why exactly does one backward tribe think they are better than the other backward tribe? it's the same shit in different toilets.

I apologize for my frankness.

THANK YOU!

I would never take the rants of so whiners of racism to be serious. Never!

TheCongo2:
With respect to the bolded, you mean that everyone who had experience racism was because of something wrong they have done.
Here we go with blaming the victim

I want to assume you are a Congolese; you won't understand what some Nigerians have experienced regarding tribalism, which is why they don't view racism with much seriousness, considering the economic opportunities available. In my opinion, tribalism is worse because we share the same skin colour. Houses have been razed in Northern Nigeria by people of the same skin colour. People's businesses have been burnt because they are of a different ethnic group, even though they have the same skin colour. A man from Plateau is likely to live longer in South Korea than his native state as Fulani herdsmen (black people) would love to kill him. Meanwhile, the average South Korean is not bothered.

Earlier this year, Igbos were flogged because they went to vote. Some Yorubas who "looked" like Igbos were also flogged by their kith, and someone wants to tell me that racism is worse?

JaskanFactor:
just dont believe anybody who tells racism is not a life threating ordeal.
Dont take lightly cause your career, and very life depend on it
YouTube search for experience of black Americans and west Indians with racism, dont listen to the experience of ass licking sell-out materialistic Nigerians. Cause if you listen to Nigerians you will not get a sense of how dangerous racism is to every aspect of your life.

And usually the European cults and individuals that are hardcore racists are usually also witches and satanic sects.
Examples the Nazis of old and thier moderns day Neo Nazi cults are deeply into witchcraft and Satanism.

So, what do you say about the tribalism in Nigeria and xenophobia in most parts of black Africa? If to say the discrimination we have in Africa is accompanied with wealth, one would have looked away. But no, poor people are discriminating against themselves. Does that make sense to you?

alt3r3g0:
Experienced so much tribalism in Naija (even within my state of origin where bursary was for few local government areas) that over here its difficult to differentiate if the person is being racist or just human nature.

Anytime I notice people don't want to sit near me, I remember how tribalistic Nigeria is, and Nigerians are. I just forget whatever happens inside the train.

ffo:
The worst discrimination i had was in Malaysia where landlord asked me get a foreigner to serve as guarantor for me even though i was on work visa.

Another one was some top banks in Malaysia refused to open a salary account for me telling me that they blacklisted Nigerians.

I sha left the country

Our people have spoilt the reputation of Nigeria in Malaysia. That was where most prominent yahoo yahoo boys honed their skills. HushPuppi notably.

tunddy1:
Lolzz, I am not using any agent but I am doing it myself

You cannot regularise your stay with a visit visa anywhere in the developed world, except probably the US. But you will always be wary of the police and ICE (immigration force).

OgaTheTop2:
Abeg, wetin bros say?

He said he would respond, but he is yet to.

NaijaNaWaa:
Not only Japanese. Americans and Europeans (UK, Germany, Netherlands, Spain, etc) too. I've experienced that a lot. Right from the airport coach to city trains; they never sat beside me. It embarrasses me. Who else has experienced it?

Btw, I'm not foreign based. I only travel and return.

Well, it is what black people have to face when outside their dominant environment. The only solution is for the dominant environment (sub-Saharan Africa) to be prosperous. Once that is done, everyone would want to befriend black people. No one likes poor people. It sucks, but na so life be.

https://www.nairaland.com/5886610/racism-against-blacks-reduce-drastically

Elvis2kay:
So how do you see them?

Do you mean the Japanese?

I respect them. I really do. They, especially the men, have been able to build a functioning society for themselves based on their cultural characteristics and norms. I applaud their tenacity, rule-based system and how the society functions. The women, especially young women, are facially beautiful. They lack the chubby features as observed in black women as a result of genetics, but from seeing them, you go know say suffer no dey disturb their skin. Why should it when they don't inhale generator fumes, enter poto-poto, sweat 24/7 and be exposed to constant noise

The society runs optimally, and we, as black Africans, have much to learn from them. I tell them this every time I am asked why Japan? But yeah, I admire what they have done for themselves.

grandstar:
People tend to fear a black man in a hoodie

I understand the hoodie aspect, but I was not wearing one, nor do I have one. Most Japanese young men don't wear it either. I am yet to see anyone wearing a hoodie.

DyingFetus:
Oil

How does the world depend on the US for oil? As in crude oil?

Oh! Please! The US vassals allies in Asia aren't dependent on her for oil, it is the world? The US even imports a lot of oil from Canada and Mexico. So, it is safe to say the US is dependent on her neighbours for oil, NOT the WORLD being dependent on the US for oil. Oil wey full everywhere

tensazangetsu20:
On what grounds will you stay back?

I am sure one criminal agent don deceive am say him fit get job with visit visa. Na so one come dey disturb me for Facebook say visit visa fit get work for Japan. I explained tire that it is not possible, he refused to listen. Telling me he has paid 500K for the visa (total amount is three million naira) and has applied for an interview at the embassy. I told him to contact me if he gets issued the visa. Almost two weeks now wey bros don apply for visa, I never hear from am.

Let me even contact him sef.

So, India's External Affairs Minister said the West is not the bad guy as portrayed by most people. The West is not the one flooding Africa and Asia with goods on a massive scale. The world is more complex than just the West being the bad guys, and the developing world, obviously being the good guys.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/in-veiled-dig-at-china-s-jaishankar-says-west-not-the-bad-guy-because-2437001-2023-09-18

The phrase flooding Africa and Asia with goods on a massive scale hints it is China. Within the past few months, the West has been engaged in a bromance with Modi and India as a country. Notwithstanding that the US sanctioned the same Modi until he became president, and Obama rescinded the sanctions. In a bid to "contain" China, the West has entered into many alliances with countries surrounding China. Whether India will succumb to this newfound friendship is yet to be seen. I recall this same external minister was one of the major voices opposing the belief that everyone should stand with Europe because of Ukraine's rancour, saying, "Europe has to grow out of mindset that Europe's problems are world's problems".
I wonder what necessitated the change in tune.

LordAdam did say the Indians wish to benefit from the West just as China did, which I perfectly agree with and understand. But it would be stoopid of them (India's elites) to think they would not experience the same animosity China is facing if/when she (India) grows as big and influential as China.

Karleb:
I'm curious tho, do these people have a genuine reason to be scared of backs. Aside the stereotype, have black people been harming or robbing these guys?

The majority will be stereotyped judging from videos they watch about Africa, Haiti and negative actions by African Americans. However, there exists a significant proportion that like black people. This time, based on the positive actions and culture of African Americans, coupled with African American soldiers stationed in America's military bases throughout the country. African Americans are accorded a higher level of respect than black Africans.

CandidAdmin:
The woman's experence with blacks must have been horribl or maybe she's just following stereotype.

That one is her business. Sometimes, our people no dey try, especially black Africans. Few months ago, there was damage to sculptures in a shrine in Kobe by a Gambian. Now, if a random black person goes to that area, s/he would be viewed with suspicion and hatred because of the act perpetrated by "one of us". Which is why the first question you get as a black person is: where are you from? It is a common question non-East Asians get, but as a black person, it is to know how to judge the person. Follow-up questions can then chart the discourse. If you go to a top school or work in a reputable firm, the narrative changes regardless of one's nationality.

CandidAdmin:
Food for thought - Germans see you as Halmitic race from europe settlers.
Italians see you as illegal immigrants.
North Americans see you as non-human apes.
Japan see Africa as continent in need of help. So as China.
China see you as black faces with bad luck.
US see you as primitive and full of disease. They also see Africa as a jungle full of wild animals.
Australians see you as primitive.
Koreans see you as people without water and basic amenities as depicted in the movie shooting stars.
Some people see Africans as fraudsters especially Nigerians. Also see Africa one poor country.

Stereotyper of Africa gotten from wikipedia.

I just talk say make I remind you ni ooo. No pun intended.

Then, you use it to your advantage. Those people have money to throw around. So you, as the African, would have many opportunities since they want to be seen as "lovers of diversity", "helping other people", etc. People wey dey look for allies sef. Present yourself as an educated person, understand the language and culture, and grab the opportunities they offer. Since they know/have related with few black people, when they come across cool-headed black folks, they want to associate. Your interest is the economic opportunities which come with such an association. Remember, you don't have competition as in the West, where black people full everywhere.

Economics over emotions.

Litmus:
I was informed by someone close, who was present on one such occasion, that Obasanjo, during keynote speeches to Nigeria youths helping out in various Africa nations, used to encourage Nigerian youths to leave Nigeria and not return. This shocked and annoyed me. I had no reason to disbelieve the individual that told me this and he had no reason to lie.

Anyway, looking back, i see now that the old man Obasanjo was wise and not the traitor i took him for due to my youth and the youths associated naivities. Obasanjo understood that Nigeria would be a better place and less burdened when certain types of Nigeria youths leave Nigeria, especially never to return.

When is Mr Litmus going to relocate to Nigeria from the United States? Don't you think you should practice what you preach?

marlow1962:
If you really know why you Japa from this shit hole, then you won't even miss a thing.

Except the person na orphan, family will be missed, and maybe food. Those are the two things I miss.

If not anything, I cherish the level of safety I experience. It is breathtaking.

A significant number of Japanese will not sit beside a foreigner who is non-East Asian except the train is full. When I went for an interview for my first part-time job, I used a narrow path which led to the train station, so I reduced time. More like short-cut in Nigerian parlance. At the point of entering it, one Japanese woman also entered. Few seconds later, she dey begin dey waka very fast while looking back. At one point, I wanted to say in Japanese that I am harmless, but my instincts kicked in, "don't say anything". Few seconds after that, she begin dey run o. Meanwhile, wetin dey my mind na how to arrive at the train station on time, so I reach the interview venue.

Other than that, nothing else. The Emperor hasn't threatened to push me into the Sea of Japan.

Ajibade123:
Is there a single product that the whole world uses and depends solely on US for it production aside USD?

No. China is the world's largest manufacturing nation.

Woodshot:
All their kids attended top schools in the West.
All their kids are living or 1st world dwellers/resident.
And these first ladies won't go to Obudu cattle ranch, Yankari game reserve or any tourist attractions here in motherland.
They'd always jump on medical Japa even after expending billions Naira on their so called world class medical hospitals.

They should first of all address their children, grand children, relatives and friends and colleagues.

And all other first ladies must address their evil hearts on Japa.

Just wanted to point out...very few Nigerian politicians' children attend top schools in the West. Okorocha, Saraki and one former Northern minister in GEJ's tenure had their children attend top schools. Orji Uzor Kalu's daughter graduated from one of the top elite and private high schools in the US. But generally, very few attend top schools.

Nigeria needs a high-speed railway connecting major economic hubs of the country. Privatise the rail lines like the Japanese. It will make travel faster, cleaner and more comfortable. Privatise the so-called highway by installing toll booths

Hint: The so-called High Ways will never happen. See Cross River and wide-mouthed Ayade.

Unfortunately, Buhari worsened things when he used loans from the Chinese to construct a track to GodKnowsWhereInTheNameOfMaradi. Look at what Indonesia did with Chinese investments and technical know-how. The current APC baboons supported that atrocity of a feudalist cum president.

SeaTrade:
Its true.
There's many advantages and sweetness in marrying a woman that's a woman, not the ones that survival has made them become men!
Most ladies that are earning well have lost touch with their femininity which is what a man looks for in a woman, amongst other attributes.
This is why it's very hard to stay in longterm relationships with such women unless you bring yourself very low in you're in similar income brackets or you're way way higher than her in the food chain,which subconciously command her respect.
But then again,if you've attained such level,what are you doing with her in the first place?
Working women are for struggling men,Period.

The poverty situation in Nigeria made it so. In prosperous countries where work plenty, the ladies don't exhibit such traits, at least in most of their lives.

Well, as a hustling dude, I agree with that. However, as a made man, go for the lady without anything yet to her profile.

That is what Seatrade said o, not me. I am only spreading his gospel.

KingClown:
I use to laugh when people no rate android.
Thank God for other Chinese companies that scattered monopoly Samsung wanted to build.
Wetin Samsung for carry una eyes see ehn, Samsung's were crazy expensive.
Boom out of nowhere companies like techno developed quality phones for as low as 12k the same thing a 70k Samsung would do.

Imagine those companies never produced those phones, Samsung for show una shege.

Which got blessings from the US. If you noticed, the companies that dominated were Apple (US), Samsung (South Korea), LG, (South Korea), Sony (Japan), HTC (Taiwan), Blackberry (Canada), Microsoft/Nokia (US/Finland). The US is satisfied when she and her vassals allies control everything. The moment a different competition enters the scene, rants of national security fill the air. Currently, they are looking towards fighting against China's rise in EVs even when na dem (the West) promoted EVs and renewable energy. When the Japanese dominated the hybrid automobile and EVs market or Tesla developed its own brand of cars, there was no talk of national security or job protection from the West, especially the Europeans. Considering how most EU firms depend on the Chinese market, I look forward to China's response.

Alternatively, Chinese EVs should target the developing world. Flood Indonesia, Brazil, South Africa, Mexico, UAE, Kenya and even Eastern Europe with EVs. That way, a significant proportion of the world's population will drive EVs, but won't be by Western automakers.

They fought Huawei. Fortunately, it survived and even got stronger. That is the stuff I have noticed about sanctions - it forces one to research ways out and come out stronger. But this only happens when the sanctioned people are united by religion, ideology, ethnicity or race.

pansophist:
Due to the geographical location of CA (Central Asian) countries, their destiny is tied to the East, and that is where their bread will be buttered.

The 2023 summit in Xian hosted by China, for the CA countries are testament to that fact. Also, their geopolitical alignment and culture make integration with the West difficult.

For example, CA countries are all Muslims, and China has ethnic Muslim minorities, which are the Uighurs and the Hui people. Same with Russia, with the Tartastan, Barshkortostan, Chechens etc.

time.

I just dey wonder whether black people dey those countries and if dem dey, how dem dey cope and do things? I had to check the term "double landlocked", and learnt something new today. If Nigeria divides, we go increase the numbers cos countries coming from the likes of Kogi, Benue, Kwara etc would be triple landlocked.

That said, yes, no means to align with the West. It is just like Mongolia. No country aside from Russia and China can attack her. It rests on China to ensure those places develop economically as they provide consumers and a labour pool to tap from. It is not as bad as peddled o considering their high birth rates.

Interesting stuff...

Few years ago, I had the same thought. But after witnessing women's hypergamy and the depth at which they carry Ndi feminism for head, I now support men who prefer chaste women. Since men carry the tag of being providers in households, they have the right to dictate the tune as they pay the piper. However, from observations of my female classmates who got married, I don't think Nigerian men do keep up with it. They still marry ladies who fvcked a whole lot during their university days.

ednut1:
Most of the European countries on that list is visa free to USA. So this is a fake list abeg

It is actually legit. Nigeria's refusal rate is approximately that figure.

chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/Non-Immigrant-Statistics/RefusalRates/FY22.pdf

P.S. This is assuming it is the B1 visa category.

fykes:
Fakest list ever...which UK and Canada citizen needs visa to USA??

LordAdam16:
They introduced the policy when they weren't sure how they'd change the trajectory of the country.
The détente with the US occurred after they launched the policy.

The Asians will have to force compliance. Lean into their conformist cultures to resolve this bottleneck.
Like if you don't have kids, you'd lose certain rights or privileges. Stuff like that.

That said, globally, the incentives don't quite align.
It should not be this expensive to raise NPCs.

-Lord

That will likely come from China, not Japan or South Korea. In Japan, laws prohibit the government from forcing citizens to do what they (the government) want them (citizens) to do. This was seen during COVID-19 when the government pleaded with citizens to take precautions, but there was no lockdown, unlike other countries. Borders were shut indefinitely. So, the government threatening citizens with loss of privileges for not bearing children will not happen. The same applies to South Korea, where a majority can speak or quickly learn English. Any law forcing such will see many exits from both countries to neighbouring countries to live.

The phenomenon of low birth rate cuts across all developed countries. East Asia is just ahead of everyone else. Governments should find ways to structure societies and policies around low birth rates. High birth rates are a thing of the past, except they want to revert to history when women lacked education. But women, having seen the power education and money give them, will never want to lose it. Feminism aside, the trend shows that birth or marriage rates plummet once women are educated and start working. East Asia is a conservative region but wealthy and does not practice the vapid Ndi feminism as the West, yet birth rates are low.