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TOPIC: The Deity Of Jesus (1) (RCCG Sunday School Student Manual 8 September 2024)

MEMORY VERSE: “And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.” – 1 John 5:20 (KJV)

First how does this memory verse support the claim that Jesus is God?

Jesus came to give us understanding, okay understanding about what

1. That we may know HIM who is true... Who is that?
We are in HIM, even in HIS son Jesus Christ. And He is the true God.

Now this verse doesn't prove in anyway that Jesus is God yet it is a verse to be remembered as one that is supposed to support such believe?

Jesus is clearly called the Son of God, not God.

And the bible text for Sunday school, John 1:1-5 but let us read 4 more verses as well

John.1.1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John.1.2 - He was in the beginning with God.
John.1.3 - All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
John.1.4 - In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.
John.1.5 - And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
John.1.6 - There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
John.1.7 - This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all through him might believe.
John.1.8 - He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
John.1.9 - That was the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world.


John 1:1 the word was with Theon and Theos was the word, apart from that this are two different words. We won't learn greek in one day so let's focus on the text.

He (the son) was in the beginning with God, He beginning Jesus

Read verse 4. In Him was life and that life was the light of men. Now the mistake is to believe that Him referred to in verse 4 is the same as He referred to in verse 2.

In Him was the life that was light

Now read verse 6 to 9, John came to testify of the light, correct. Yes John came to testify of the light, Jesus. John didn't come to testify about "HIM" in whom light was.

We see from the very beginning John differentiate between the Father and the Son

Then after the bible test comes
INTRODUCTION: Generally, a ‘deity’ is a ‘god or goddess’ in a polytheistic religion (belief in many gods). Also, a being of divine status, quality, or nature is referred to as a deity. In the context of the Christian faith, the Deity is the Creator and Supreme Being. The argument about the Deity of Jesus Christ is common among people of other major religions (although they teach that Jesus was a prophet, a good teacher or a godly man). However, the Bible tells us that Jesus was infinitely more than the three combined (Matthew 16:13-16). Jesus is God. He is Divine.


Now you would ask does Matthew 16:13-16 show that without a doubt Jesus is God. Infact it doesn't

Matt.16.13 - When Jesus came into the region of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, saying, "Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, am?"
Matt.16.14 - So they said, "Some say John the Baptist, some Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets."
Matt.16.15 - He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?"
Matt.16.16 - Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."


Clearly this verses ended with Jesus is God... No. IT DID NOT. SO WHERE AND HOW DID RCCG COME WITH THEIR DOCTRINE AND BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS GOD.

Jesus is Christ, son of the living God. Who so ever believes in him shall have life. Not who so ever believes that Jesus is God.

I can go on and handle every single point they tried to used but it would take time and space to do so.

This is the conclusion they want from you

CONCLUSION: Christians should not only believe in the deity of Jesus but must be bold to proclaim and defend it scripturally.

The question is why? Is this important is this the gospel, what is the point. Why the confusion many questions pop up by those who informed me of this


Imagine they tried to used this scriptures to prove that Jesus isn't just divine but the very Jehovah Almighty

Eternality (John 8:58), Omnipresence (Matthew 18:20, 28:20), Omniscience (Matthew 16:21), and Omnipotence (Luke 7:13-15).

Ah God we go on and on. It is well

Steep:
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jesus is God in respect to his nature but the Son of God in respect to his relationship and with the Father.

Thomas called Jesus God.

John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God.
Paul called him God.

Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

The scripture is clear, Jesus is the creator, and ruler over all creation, all creation was created for him and he exist before all creation making him uncreated and have absolute power over all things.

Colossians 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

this is the same error written in rccg Sunday Sunday 8th September

John wrote in Him, God, was life Jesus that is light

John came to testify about the light Jesus

Did you not see an exclamation mark at the end of what Thomas said my Lord my God! Thomas made an exclamation not a statement

Paul never called Jesus God, he mention great God and our saviour Jesus Christ two different persons same with Peter in 2 Peter 1:1

This is what Paul wrote 1Cor.15.27 For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 1Cor.15.28 When everything and everyone is finally under God's rule, the Son will step down, taking his place with everyone else, showing that God's rule is absolutely comprehensive--a perfect ending!

This is exactly happens in Revelation

Emusan:
The most critical part is what you left and address another thing.

Look @color parts, that is what you are missing.

Mal 3:1 ...prepare the was BEFORE ME....
Isa 40:3 ....making the dessert highway for OUR GOD...

John the Baptist fulfilled the part of preparing the WAY while Jesus is the one who fulfilled BEFORE ME AND OUR GOD.

Do you now understand?



You're a liar!

John 5:22 "Furthermore, the Father does not judge[ao] anyone, but has assigned[ap] all judgment to the Son"

Stop lying against God, His word and the Holy spirit.

Yahweh of the Old Testament promised to COME either God lied or He has come.



Who are you to decide who hardened his/her heart?

So, when the same Isa called God MIGHTY GOD SHOWS God might not be 'Almighty' or God later became Almighty at a point.

Yes! You're contradicting yourself.

If Jesus is called MIGHTY GOD and Old Testament also called God MIGHTY GOD it means there are TWO MIGHTY GODS.



Where did I make this claim?



And who said Jesus called Himself the Father?



Where did I lie against Jesus?

Secondly, I can't remember where I said you know Jesus FULLY.

I only said if your CLAIMED YOU KNOW HIM FULLY then it means you're the Father because according to Jesus Himself, you can't know Him fully except the Father.



Show me where I accused you.



So it's me that is quoting scripture WRONGLY right

Whenever you see them making this type of claim it's evident they know their own interpretation don get K-leg.

it is well, God bless you sir, calling someone a liar, when i wasn't the one who wrote


Rev.20.12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. (NKJV)


Did I have to spell out what I wrote?

John.5.24 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. (NKJV)

This was the judgement left to Jesus, concerning those who will live..

Did Jesus not say recorded in the same book of John

John.12.47 And if anyone hears My words and does not believe, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world. (NKJV)

If there was anyone it was those who would see and be free and those who will be blind and remain captives

John.9.39 And Jesus said, "For judgment I have come into this world, that those who do not see may see, and that those who see may be made blind." (NKJV)


Is this the judgement I spoke about?

John.3.17 For God did not send the Son into the world in order to judge (to reject, to condemn, to pass sentence on) the world, but that the world might find salvation and be made safe and sound through Him. (AMP)


I won't respond to you again because like those who Jesus spoke to in John 9, you may never see the light even if it's shown to you just as the blind do not see the sun. Keep on saying things like "God might not be 'Almighty' or God later became Almighty at a point."

It is well, take care

StillDtruth:
No problem here. You only spoke off point and still said what i said.

keep deceiving yourself

StillDtruth:
No where did i say that.

"shame the Lies told by a thousand scribes" your exact words

StillDtruth:
Exactly!

Even Reveleatilons 1:8 and 18 reconfirms it

two different verses

Who do you think was speaking in Rev 1:8 why don't you say John

Where has verse 18 shows clearly Jesus is speaking

Read the whole of Revelation 4 but seeing as I don't just post type verses I post it's content, let me help you a bit on who spoke in Revelation 1:8

Rev.4.8 The four living creatures, each having six wings, were full of eyes around and within. And they do not rest day or night, saying: "Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, Who was and is and is to come!" (NKJV)

Who gave John the revelation

Rev.1.1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants--things which must shortly take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John, (NKJV)

GOD gave him

Emusan:
Jesus can never lie.

The Messiah from Old Testament perspective is God Almighty Himself according to Isaiah 40:3 and Malachi 3:1 as all the Four gospels also attested to it by applying it to Jesus Christ.

So if God claimed He's the one coming in the Old Testament, did God lie or God has not come?

Mal.3.1 "Look! I am sending my messenger, and he will prepare the way before me. Then the Lord you are seeking will suddenly come to his Temple. The messenger of the covenant, whom you look for so eagerly, is surely coming," says the LORD Almighty.


The Lord mentioned here is Adonai, different from LORD which is Yehovah (or to some Yahweh)

Since the Lord Jesus is the messenger do you now not understand

Isa.40.3 The voice of one crying in the wilderness: "Prepare the way of the LORD; Make straight in the desert A highway for our God.

Jesus came to show the way and be the way, no one comes to the father except through him


Read your WHOLE bible, ask the Holy Spirit if you must. God the Father is indeed coming, coming to judge the world, read your Book of Revelation.

Well, since the Four gospel writers applied those verses to Jesus Christ proved God did not lie and God Almighty has come as promised.



You're contradicting yourself.

Why does he need to be in IMAGE OF MAN if He doesn't have two natures?



And the same Isaiah said God is MIGHTY GOD, do you then means there are now TWO Mighty Gods.

you are beginning to sound like you're hardening your heart and just plainly refusing to. You accuse me of contradictions whereas what I have written lacks any form of contradiction. Being mighty doesn't make you almighty. Were there no mighty men, why have you limited your sight and perceived things like those who are blind

I didn't write that verse but that was Jesus very OWN STATEMENT.

So, to claim you FULLY KNOW Jesus Christ means you are now THE FATHER because that is the point Jesus made in that statement.



That is my point, you can only know what was REVEALED not FULLY KNOW WHO Jesus is.

That should tell you, Jesus is more than what was revealed.



You can point out any misleading point in my post but as long as the scripture I was I quote and allow scripture to speak for itself, you can only be the blind person here.

You ignore everything Jesus said then claim you wrote what he said?

Jesus never called himself the Father, it is you who lies against him that does so.

If you can lie against him then you can lie that I said I know him fully when I said he is not hidden from us, and has been revealed to us. First accusing me then agreeing with me shows you lack the patience to read and study the whole context of a message so as to understand what is being said.

THERE IS NOT ONE SINGLE SCRIPTURE I QUOTED WRONGLY but whereas for you who claims to see, your blindness remains

Ken4Christ:
I still don't understand where you are going. Please, come clear.

As for the Father, you can only see his glory or form but not in physical body like Jesus has.

please read it again till you understand

if you have any questions ask them clearly

Ken4Christ:
What is your bone of contention?

All worships are honours but not all honours are worships.

ok

sonmvayina:
But you seem to suggest that echad means a compound 1. Meaning multiple that gives 1..

I seem to? 😐

StillDtruth:
We know Truth when we see or hear it and Truth from an illliterate will put to shame the Lies told by a thousand scribes

so you are calling all the authors of the old testament books liars, well ain't we all men liars

Ken4Christ:
Jesus is not the Father, but he is the physical manifestation of the Father.

He is God in very essence. His statements affirm this truth. But on earth, he functioned as a man became of his mission but he is a God being.

Can an ordinary man make statements like;

Before Abraham was, I am.

He accepted worship. Man does not accept worship.

Read John 17 and listen to his conversation with his Father.

Jesus is fully God but he is not the father.

The Father is invisible. If you want to see the Father, look at Jesus.

Jesus being a man doesn't make him an ordinary man.

Is worship not honor, do you not honor your parents. Did Jesus tell anyone to worship him, was it not the Father who made all things under him and to worship him. You think Jesus sought worship for himself, he is not the devil. He is Lord, and we honor him our lord and saviour.

Glad you agree that Jesus is not the Father, and yes he is divine and that divine nature is also in us those who believe and obey God

Ken4Christ:
You are quoting scriptures that supports your opinions while ignoring many more others that speaks otherwise.

What about where God the Father called Jesus God?

Hebrews 1:8-9.
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. note

9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows

God the Father is invisible. Jesus is the physical manifestation of the invisible God. So, if you want to see God, look at Jesus.

God the father is not invisible blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God, God is very seeable, He is not a function of imagination, he is as real as we are. Jesus is right now seated at the right hand of God, because God doesn't make himself visible to all doesn't mean he lack manifestation. Did you read at his appearance the earth quakes, heaven and earth disappear there was no room for them.

That hebrews is quoted from Psalm 45
God has blessed You, referring to the Son, forever

But then in verse 5, it refers to the throne and the kingdom of God.

It's like that psalm where Jehovah was speaking to Adonai, you see ignorance sometimes is a choice, try and read the Hebrew translations of scripture.

Even John Apostle John saw the throne of God and the lamb at the right hand. And recorded it in revelation.

You are misquoting and misunderstanding one verse or few you have in your mind against all of scripture and revelation, is that not arrogance


Psalm 45:7 for God Your God, whose God, the God of the Mighty One, who loves righteousness and hates wickedness, God anoints Him.

Jesus did not anoint himself, God the father anointed him and gave him a name.

Don't think you are wiser than those through whom the revelation was given

Tetraozonaitera:
You have just wasted space and time writing the long piece.

At the court of Law. After quarell with your neighbor who was so smart to have recorded your voice which in your own words you were bragging you will cut his son's head off one day.

The Judge facing you says Mr. Jude, can you tell this honourable court who was that talking and bragging?
What would you say when you know your neighbor got you redhanded?

"It was me your honor" would be your answer if you dont want greater punishment for telling lies.

Those were your words in your own voice.

Only a mental patient would say "Your Honor, it was not me Sir. It was only my voice"

The Judge may have to tell them to go and check your Sanity.

In a nutshell, you cant separate a man from his word.
His word is him. He is his word.

Jesus is the Word of God.
You cant separate God from His Word.
He is His Word, His Word is He.

Shalom

you are amusing you call it a waste yet you read and respond, don't deceive yourself and rubbish what you lack understanding of in pride.

I did not separate Jesus from the Father, nor the Father from the Son.

God the Father spoke from heaven while Jesus was on earth. Jesus was called THE WORD of God, not the voice of God, even if he is the voice of God, God did not lose his voice when Jesus came to earth, not did he sacrifice his speech and become mute or dumb.

Continue with your analogy and ignore the truth, I have written what I have written, you have read it, it's not for me to choose for you but for you to make your choice.

seunowa:
Sincerely I do not get what exactly your point is about the identity of Christ Jesus. While not come out with a concise and unambiguous explanation of identity of Christ Jesus.

maybe to you it is not given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, for thou it is made plain you still see it as a parable. Instead of many explanations pray that the eyes of your understanding be enlightened and that God reveals the son Jesus Christ to you.

Emusan:
No! He doesn't have to reveal Himself as God because that's not the reason he came to Earth.

Jesus does not lie, neither did the scriptures nor gospel call the messiah the almighty God creator of heaven and earth

Which means while on Earth, He has TWO NATURES: One as divine and One as Human, right?

Jesus doesn't have two natures, even while he was on earth his nature was from God though he was in the image of man. Do you understand what you read, hope you understand God's word

Your post has no authority to do that , God's Word already revealed who Jesus Christ is.

Jesus is God Almighty
Jesus is the Creator of ALL THINGS
Jesus is the Alpha and Omega
Jesus is The First and The Last
Jesus is the Savior of the world.

you are very funny, because Jesus did not send books to preach the gospel, he sent men and gave them authority just has the Father God sent him and gave him authority. Even Isaiah said he would be called mighty god not the Almighty God.

The real Jesus sent by Father you can't fully know Him just as you can't fully know the Father. You can only know Him as Scripture described Him just exactly like the Father, to think you know Him in REAL SENSE makes you to be God Himself Jesus as Jesus says “My Father has entrusted everything to me. No one truly knows the Son except the Father, and no one truly knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.” Matt 11:27

So, are you now the Father?

who ever lied to you that you cannot know Jesus probably also lied to you about who Jesus is. Saying Jesus cannot be fully know is saying he who the Father sent and revealed is still a mystery and the salvation of God has not been made known to us, that we do not lack anything as pertains to the salvation of our souls.

Scripture reveals who Jesus is but also the Spirit of God. Didn't Jesus say to Peter, flesh and blood did not reveal to you who I am. So stop being a mocker and making mockery of God's word by asking silly questions as, am I the Father, least you blamsphemy did they not also claim that the authority which was by the Holy Spirit was from demons.

If you are blind do not claim to see as to mislead others

Steep:
This is what you get when, emphasis is placed on emotional experiences as against accurate doctrine and theology. When incompetent pastors are ordained who lack knowledge in basic Christian doctrine. Smh

this is the response you give when you ignore gospel and the truth, even when it clearly written.

I praise that in incompetence his grace is sufficient makes perfect us even in weaknesses and I thank God for the holy spirit that teaches all things

StillDtruth:
Kjv said "The Lord" not Jehovah.

So you are jw like Mad Max. i did not know. No wonder the errors and the twisted lies.



Did the bible say "echad"? No

Even at that your topic is not talking about "unity" but about The Lord, being "our God", so, you are talking Off Point!



Now i understand why you lie and twist and talk rubbish. Clearly, you are a jw.

See how you have changed it to "every lord" because you cannot counter the bible passages i have just dropped!

Hmm you are playing with hellfire.

so king James knows better scribes that wrote thousand copies of scriptures?

Don't be ignorant and hate others and go repent.

Kingsempires:
My Lord and my God




Jesus Christ

John.20.17 "Don't cling to me," Jesus said, "for I haven't yet ascended to the Father. But go find my brothers and tell them that I am ascending to my Father and your Father, my God and your God."

sonmvayina:
I know you will say it is a compound 1

My friend, it is not. There is only one God, creator of all. Jesus is a creation of the Roman empire...
He was created to deceive you...don't fall for it..

Isaiah 44:6/7
6. So said the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer the Lord of Hosts, "I am first and I am last, and besides Me there is no god

7. And who will call [that he is] like Me and will tell it and arrange it for Me, since My placing the ancient people, and the signs and those that will come, let them tell for themselves.

Isaiah 45:5
am the Lord, and there is no other; besides Me there is no God: I will strengthen you although you have not known Me

What are you talking about? Did you read my post at all. Did I say Jesus is God?!

StillDtruth:
If you admit that Jesus is Lord, then these passages show you lack understanding!

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD Deuteronomy 6:5

The Lord thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing. Zephaniah 3:17

For I the Lord thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee. Isaiah 41:13

then you who has understanding, take every Lord ever mentioned as your God as well

Meanwhile it's actually Deutronomy 6:4
Hear Israel, Jehovah our God, Jehovah is one.

You have understanding yet do you know what echad means

Hope for Lost Souls

People do not realize that in other to gain the things of this world they have to lose their souls. The reason you do not even realize you have a soul maybe because you have lost it.

What does a man gain if he gains the world but loses his soul, can that question truly be answered when you do not know the value of your soul?

Okay, what do you gain if you gain 1million but lose 1billion, when you realize that your soul is more valuable than gold, would you not guard it. How do you even lose something you don't know you have? Well it's because there's a thief that knows you have it, and came to steal it. The first thing the Devil has come to do is to steal.

And what does he steal? Your soul, because he knows how much more valuable it is than the world he claims to own and offer.

Now how does he steal your soul, there are demons that steal the very word of God sent to preserve your soul, and they don't just steal the word that's meant to give you the faith you lack but also an offer is made to you. An offer to gain the world, do you know why you don't even know the value of your soul, it's because of the thief, who is the god of this world, blinding the eyes of men with desires and promises that make them chase after things and serve Mammon. He never tells you the price of what he offers to you, he stirs your lust and greed so as to steal your soul in return.


But thank God for Jesus, who has come to give his life for us, before he gives life to us, he gives his life for us inorder to reclaim our souls from the thief. Jesus gave his life to God so he could lay claim and collect our souls. What? You thought he paid the devil, who pays a thief? A price was required because of the sin of unbelief, for lack of faith is sin and lack of faith results to lost souls. Listen our souls have to be redeemed because it is the only vessel to receive life with, that's why it is a revelation and not just a warning that sin leads to death, because losing your soul due to sin leads to death.

How can you have life without a soul.

What can a man give for his soul?

You cannot return what you have collected and gain back your soul because it was never a legal transaction, it was theft and deception, you were duped and blinded to lose your soul and only by finding the thief is restoration possible. Finding the thief is one, overpowering him is another, having the legal right to reclaim is another. This is why Jesus took our sins, for without sin he cannot die, but with your sins he can meet the thief called devil, that's why you repent and surrender to him. Even with our sins he cannot die because of the incorruptible life in him, so he has to give up his life and blood to cleanse and seperate us from sins while he descends to redeem our souls from the thief.

It is because you do not know, that you do not understand nor appreciate why we tell you what we do, about what has been done for you and what you should do. The process of redeeming your soul is a gift to those who believe and in obedience are willing to follow Jesus. The only hope to recover our souls is Jesus, who pays for our soul and becomes the legal owner of it but this price is that is available for everyone is not forced upon everyone. If you want Jesus to recover your soul back from the devil today, you need to reject the devil and turn away from sin, and then proclaim Jesus has Lord over your life. The devil has no right over your soul when you have nothing of his in your life.

If you or anyone repents, Jesus has full right to reclaim their souls. No matter who they are or where they are from. If they reject the world they have gained, Jesus will reclaim the soul they lost.

What does it profit you to gain your soul and lose the world? You gain the kingdom of God and eternal life.

Pray least you fall into temptation and be like one of those you criticise. Take heed you who think you stand least you fall

Like written in Revelation and they still did not repent from their sins.

Same with you who view this and still continue with wickedness

It is well

Jesus Christ is Lord!.... but he is not God, indeed he is king and divine but he isn't God.

The basis of true faith is to believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and not that Jesus Christ is God.

Matt.16.15 He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?"
Matt.16.16 Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
Matt.16.17 Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.

Jesus himself said, John 14:28, "I am going to the Father, for my Father is greater than I."

Demons did not call Jesus God, even though they are lying spirits whose accounts we shouldn't believe Luke.8.28 When he saw Jesus, he cried out, fell down before Him, and with a loud voice said, "What have I to do with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg You, do not torment me!"


Then what about an angel, Gabriel who had visited Daniel who then visited Mary and said to her,
Luke.1.31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS.
Luke.1.32 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David.


There is the Lord Jesus and the Lord God... Ps.110.1 The LORD said to my Lord, "Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool."

Some even say that the name of Jesus which is higher than every other name is higher than the name of the Father. Not even consider that a son bears his father's name.

Let me use an easier translation so we don't speak too many words, what did Paul say
1Cor.15.27 For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
1Cor.15.28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

This was Paul who Phil.2.9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,... Jesus did not give himself a name, it was God the Father that gave him a name.

When John writes about testing every spirit, prophecy to verify genuine prophets from false prophets he wrote
1John.4.2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,
1John.4.3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.


The question now is what can you call a person or a spirit that says Jesus is God, for God is spirit revealed by Jesus himself but we are to believe that Jesus came in the flesh and is currently resurrected in his body at the right hand of the Father.

The devil is an author of confusion that is why those who are confused claim to be spiritual and that things of the spirit cannot be understood even when John, Jesus, Isaiah affirmed that the spirit gives understanding. How can Jesus be at the right-hand of himself.

You who believe such are the reason why the truth of God is held in contempt as the world views you as being to gullible to believe every nonsense you hear. And the true believers see you as a child tossed to and fro by strange doctrines born out of the imaginations of men.


I who have met the real Jesus testify to you that Jesus and the Father are not the same, yes they are one because they are united as a husband and wife are one in unity but not the same in personality or person.

Jesus is the word of God, and he is divine, the very manifestation of God's word full of grace and truth but he is not God the speaker. He himself testifies of God the Father, as the one who sent him, as the one who testifies of him the son, as the one who does the works.

If Jesus is God he would reveal himself as God and not have to humble himself to God who is above and above all, revealing God the father. Jesus is divine because he is like God, having the likeness of God but the in the image of man to bear our sins.

This post is to reveal who Jesus is, the real Jesus sent by the Father, that those who listen and obey him will be saved. This is the spirit of prophecy, the testimony of Jesus. Blessed is he who understands and sees him.

Maybe we should consider the role TV media played in those days when they broadcasted such and it made the news. This days would even a real miracle make the news? Which news media would do such...


Well as there been a miracle on an international scale?

We still dey do evangelism o 😊

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franklampard082:
Being a Nigerian pastor is easy. If this were a book, it will probably be a best-seller because of the spate at which churches spring up at the slightest opportunity in Nigeria. Opportunities are vast and since Nigerians need something to believe in, this “trade” will always sell…. At least, till Jesus comes!

The following are steps to follow to be a Nigerian pastor. If these steps are followed religiously, you will not only become rich, you will become extremely powerful. You will be worshiped, adored and people will fall over themselves to get your attention. Politicians will fall on their knees and beg you to lay hands on them! Yes! You will be that powerful.

1. It doesn’t matter what you were or used to be, it doesn’t matter that you used to be an armed robber, an advance fee fraud expert, a cult lord, a drug pusher or even a rapist. The fact that you used to have an evil past is a big testimony on its own. The worse your past, the more people will believe in the new you. It’s just the Nigerian thing. We love them complicated.

2. Gather a small crowd of people. No matter how small, tell them how you went to bed the previous night and a white-clothed figure appeared to you in a vision and “called you”. Tell them you are ready to take up this clarion call. Get a big fat shiny new bible and a cassock if possible, look as calm as you can and smile at any opportunity, they will believe you. As long as no one can get the call history of how “God called you”, no one cares. They just assume he did. Again, it’s the Nigerian way of reasoning.

3. The third step is very important. Naming your church. Most pastors don’t know this, but like the caption of books and movies, the name of a church is everything. Look for a very catchy name; something that people will love to describe themselves with once they become members. Take for instance; “Oluwa Is Involved Holy Ghost Penticostal Fire Brand Ministries”…. Nice huh? Your members can call themselves “Fire Branders”. This will be printed on all merchandise from t-shirts to holy water to holy oils and sometimes, holy handkerchiefs. They won’t be really holy but well…. What’s a company without advertisement?

4. Next is building a church. Mr pastor-in-embryo, this is very very very important! You have to be very technical and innovative about this. Two vital questions are involved in building a church. They are;

i. What kind of church do you want to build? Is it a church for the rich ones or the struggling ones? (Before you say rich, money and power will come in from either ways)

ii. Do you have the funds to build a church in your area of choice? If no, how do you hope to get the funds?

Suggestions;

i. Building a church either in a rich or poor man’s environment both has its basic advantages and disadvantages. If you are thinking the rich man’s zone, then be prepared to out-do numerous competitors. It is also very capital intensive. You need an eye-popping edifice. Fully air-conditioned, comfy pews, etc. A lot of pastors-in-embryos are also thinking like you. So for you to succeed in that zone, you have to be extra-innovative. You need a basic know-how of being a Behind-queens-english-speaking kind of pastor. If you can perform a few tricks and call them miracles, voila! You stand a better chance of hitting gold and out-doing your numerous competitors.

However, if you are thinking the struggling zone, this isn’t too capital intensive, you can start from a shop, or open space or even in the one-bedroom apartment which you presently reside somewhere around Ijora-badia. All you need for a start is at least two very loud speakers, a drum-set and a fairly used piano. No matter how small your church is, you need more members who need to contribute so you move to your “permanent site”. So your loud speakers must be blaring at all times.

ii. Getting funding to start a church is important for your hustle. It’s easy. Gather a group of rich men you may know. You may think of it as a sort of consortium. Lay down your business plan and tell them how and when they will get returns on their investment. Bear in mind that these people can’t be deceived. They actually don’t care about you or even God so don’t appeal to their spiritual side because they have none. Appeal to their self-interest and I assure you that in no time, your funding will be ready. Congrats.

5. The next step is choosing your title. Being referred to as “Pastor” isn’t just good enough. Look for something bigger and more respectable like “Senior Reverend, High Bishop, Cardinal. Or even Pope. Add “Daddy or Papa” at the end of your name. Members can call you Cardinal Yabiswacko, Daddy or papa for short. Your wife must also be a Bishop and known as Mummy for short.

6. Now that your church is almost ready to take off, you need advertisement. Call on a few media houses and organize a large crusade. If your specialty is in the struggling zone, Call it something like; “Operation Your Village Witches Must Die”. Appear on television if you can. Scream and sweat profusely while on air. Let your prospective members know you mean business. Look very fiery like you can actually confront their respective village witches and move your mouth like you are speaking in tongues. On the day of the crusade, you will be amazed at the turn out. You may call it “the Lord’s doing” if you like. Some will leave after the crusade but those that stay back will form your first set of members. You can grow from there.

7. By now the church is set and has taken off, plan the organogram very well. Members of the consortium who funded the building of the church will be the “board of trustees” or “church council”. Your most trusted friend or even your wife MUST be the church treasurer. You can’t afford to trust the church funds with a stranger. This is business and should be handled with serious seriousness. Next you make a very handsome dude the choirmaster. That way pretty ladies will join the choir. You make an ex-officer or policeman the head of ushers. That way there will be orderliness. The others can take care of themselves.

8. Income: money is important and even the bible confirms same. Tithing is important so make sure 80% of your congregation are tithers. It is none of your business what business members of your congregation do as long as they pay their tithe. This people sometimes try to be smart and try to cheat god (which is you) by not declaring what they earned so you can deduct your 10%. Blackmail them. Tell them how they will spend eternity in hell for trying to cheat god. You must also be creative. Spin some success stories of people who paid god in the past and have been living happily ever after. Also tell them of people who tried to cheat god in the past and met a very terrible, brutal end. Also, collect as many offerings in a Sunday as possible. As usual, be innovative and give these offerings names such as “welfare offering” “widows offering” “missionary offering” “pastor’s welfare offering” etc. In the end, watch your ministry rise with financial power. Also, never let any opportunity pass without you taking an offering. Be it naming ceremonies, burial, baby dedication, car dedication or even okada and keke maruwa dedication.

9. Now that your ministry is growing in numbers and financial strength, the time to repay your debtors has come. Pay them off as quickly as possible. Don’t let them truncate your hustle with them hassling you for debt. Pay them off, then count your blessings. Bring up new laws in your church. Claim you saw these instructions in a vision from heaven and they must be followed to the letter or they won’t be allowed to enter the kingdom of God;

* No more inter-church marriages. Everyone must marry from within your church.

* Every family must seek spiritual guidance before doing any business, when they have dispute and permission before they have sex at home.

* No single man must approach a single woman directly, he must come to you and then you will in turn “consult with god” if they will go well together. (If the single lady is pretty and you have eyes on her, she is a no-go area of course. Tell the single man that heaven denied the transaction. He must accept his fate and look for a less good-looking woman)

* Call families randomly and tell them “thus saith the lord; that place you want to go today is dangerous. Don’t go!” Of course everyone has a place he or she should be. You will be respected and seen as the man who god talks to.

* Declare that henceforth it is a sin for anyone to remain on his feet when talking to you. They have to always be on their knees while you “lay hands” on them.

* Tell the unemployed ones to add “Spiritual son or daughter of Cardinal Yabiswacko” in their CV when looking for jobs. Tell the employed ones it is now a grave sin to employ a member of another church for a position that a member of your church is interested in. No matter how highly unqualified the latter must be.

10. Always stay on the side of the government and the authorities. The possibilities are limitless! So to achieve this, always tell your congregation never to criticize the government, tell them to always pray for the government no matter how poorly it treats them. Declare fasting and prayers when, for instance, the president’s wife is down with food poisoning after feeding on, say, three million naira a day. All this will turn attention your way and just hopefully you may one day become the chaplain of Aso Rock or even a certain president’s personal pastor!

11. Now that you are a big pastor, buy state of the art cars. Build yourself the kind of mansion that is waiting for you in heaven here on earth. Whenever you go out, drive on a convoy, buy yourself a private jet or two if possible because you will be needed in every part of the world and you won’t have that time to flock with mere humans who rush daily to the airports to board commercial airlines. You are a demi god and you must always carry yourself like that. Money, power and invincibility.

12. You need your congregation to always listen to you. Always be in your power and under your Mighty feet. So, as much as possible, don’t ever preach about any other thing except prosperity and winning the war against the witches and wizards in the villages. If, for instance, as the pastor, you have an opportunity to feed 5,000 people like Jesus did in the bible, don’t! You can’t afford to have your congregation so well fed for they might no longer listen to you. Simply eat a part of the bread and fish and tell them how it was sent from above. Sell it to them one after the other and see your finances rise. Don’t ever feed them! Don’t ever care about them too much! You are the god and they are your creation.

These rules have worked for many a Nigerian pastor. They may take a while to come to fruition – what lucrative venture doesn’t anyway? – but they have never failed!

I wish you all the patience and goodluck in your hustle.

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