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Christianity EtcRe: Online Bible Interactive Session Wed 8pm by gohf(op): 4:45pm On Sep 18, 2024
Good evening everyone you invited to this evening bible study, chat us up on WhatsApp to be connected

Christianity EtcRe: Anybody Wishing And Hoping The World Will End Is Selfish And Wicked by gohf: 10:05am On Sep 16, 2024
Kvarachi:
There you go, who told you I'm enjoying more than others. Pls I'm putting it to you, bring 100% of those you think are suffering and blaming anybody that brought them to this world if they want to die right now and hear their response. I can bet my balls that 95% of them will say no o, I still want to live. That means there's something they're still enjoying in the world.
Enjoyment is not by eating good foods and staying in big mansion alone. Being alive and seeing friends and relatives irrespective of the condition one is, is enjoyment on it's own and thats why many of those you think are suffering will not want to die and same reason why I said the world isn't ending.
Sella!
keep telling yourself that, believe what you want okay. It is well
Christianity EtcRe: When I Say Jesus Is Not God; Trinity Isn't The Gospel. by gohf(op): 10:04am On Sep 16, 2024
Tetraozonaitera:
@ THE BOLDED grin

THE WAY YOU GUYS MANIPULATE SCRIPTURES TO SUIT YOUR BELIEFS IS SO AMAZING!

SEE THE WAY YOU EXPLAIN AWAY THE "FIRST AND THE LAST" you attributed to Jesus!
Chai!
So that one is associated to the first will be the last and the last will the first. grin

THE OTHER "THE FIRST AND THE LAST" HAS DIFFERENT MEANING ABI? grin

WHERE IN THE BIBLE WERE THEY SEPARATED AND EXPLAINED DIFFERENTLY? grin

YOU GUYS AND WATCHTOWER TEACHING ARE JOKERS.

KEEP DECEIVING YOURSELVES. grin
Jesus is the only begotten the only Lamb

And the Father is the only true God. Did your eyes not see it or did you not read it.

At least tell yourself the truth
Christianity EtcRe: Anybody Wishing And Hoping The World Will End Is Selfish And Wicked by gohf: 10:38pm On Sep 15, 2024
Kvarachi:
Good evening good people of this great house,
It's your commercial bus driver again.
Now let me go into the meat of the topic:
Without mincing words and without caring whose ox is gored, I'm saying this with my full chest and I don't care what you may say to me.
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Anybody who bcus of one religion or the other thinks this world will end one day is not only deceiving he or herself but also selfish and wicked.
How can you be born and raised from the cradle to adulthood and even to old age and you come out to tell people that the world will soon end. After enjoying many things as a child to your adulthood and maybe still enjoying and you now thinks or wants the world to end.
So the children born today won't grow too just like you did abi? You don't want them to enjoy what you enjoyed abi? You don't want them to give birth to their own babies and see their grandchildren too abi?
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So now tell me, if today's children will grow and have their own children and childrens children, how is the world going to end?
Don't you think the circle continues.
If your direct parents or grand parents or great grand parents or great great grand parents had wished for that and it happens, will you have been born today?
How selfish and wicked can you be to the new generations for saying the world will end one day.
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My final submission, it's inevitable that each and everyone of us reading this will surely die one day or someday. I want to assure you all, the day that happens is the day that particular persons worlds came to an end not everybody's world.
The only thing requires from us while on earth is to do good and great things so that your name will be remembered in the sands of time.
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I rest my case!
because you can survive and enjoy the earth without caring about the remaining millions suffering and dying that you can type with a phone that others are wicked but you who wants others to suffer or you who doesn't even care that at this moment people are going through horrible pains while you are enjoying your life.

You probably ate a good meal, had a nice dream sleeping in a sweet bed. But why should you care for those who are suffering while you are enjoying.

You think your children are happy to be brought into a wicked world but you want it to continue. If you ain't myopic and a bit sympathetic a bit of wisdom would be seen from what you wrote.
Christianity EtcRe: The Deity Of Jesus?! RCCG Sunday School by gohf(op): 10:29pm On Sep 15, 2024
Sand2022:
I don't understand the point. Can you explain what this post is about.

Are you against the Sunday school lesson? Where does the Sunday school material end and where does your comment start? What position are you taken, for or against the Sunday school material?
you see the point but you don't understand it.

It should be obvious I am not in support of that Sunday school lesson.

Did you actually read what you quoted? Because your questions sound like someone who didn't bother reading before quoting and commenting.
Christianity EtcRe: Dear Christians, Have You Discussed These Passages At Bible Study Before? by gohf: 6:33pm On Sep 15, 2024
DZTech:
Acts 2:44-47
Life among the Believers

Acts 4:32–35
The Believers Share their Possessions

Acts 2
44 All the believers continued together in close fellowship and shared their belongings with one another.
45 They would sell their property and possessions, and distribute the money among all, according to what each one needed.
46 Day after day they met as a group in the Temple, and they had their meals together in their homes, eating with glad and humble hearts,
47 praising God, and enjoying the good will of all the people. And every day the Lord added to their group those who were being saved.

Who wouldn't want to join such a group of people?! 😀

Acts 4
32 The group of believers was one in mind and heart. None of them said that any of their belongings were their own, but they all shared with one another everything they had.
33 With great power the apostles gave witness to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and God poured rich blessings on them all.
34 There was no one in the group who was in need. Those who owned fields or houses would sell them, bring the money received from the sale,
35 and hand it over to the apostles; and the money was distributed to each one according to his need.

Can there be poverty in such a community? Which Christianity do you prefer-
The one described above, or the one that collects tithes from the poor? 🤷🏾‍♂️

Many of us don't know how the first Christians lived as one people. Maybe it's time to start asking YOUR pastor why HE doesn't practice these examples in your church. 🤨
God bless 🇳🇬
we do at the gate of hope fellowship
Christianity EtcRe: Hope For Lost Souls by gohf(op): 6:27pm On Sep 15, 2024
Happy Sunday
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ Is Not God by gohf(op): 3:12pm On Sep 15, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
I can likewise show from scripture that Jesus is God
go ahead sir
Christianity EtcRe: The Dirty Tricks Of The Seductress by gohf: 11:03am On Sep 15, 2024
May we not be seduced by what we want to hear but pay attention to the truth spoken to us in love from the gospel that saves us. In Jesus name. Amen

Christianity EtcRe: The Dirty Tricks Of The Seductress by gohf: 10:55am On Sep 15, 2024
It is well, better to hear the gospel and spread the gospel then to speak seductive words. Better to speak the truth in love than to speak words that flatter in order to win others over.


Some are even seduced to go to church with lies and false promises, flattering and insincerity.


If you don't like to hear the truth, be ready to believe a lie, because you are willing to please by listening to what you like even when it may be a lie that will only hurt you and destroy your soul

Christianity EtcRe: Does Roadside Preaching Make Any Positive Impact?? by gohf: 10:42am On Sep 15, 2024
ikorodureporta:
Does roadside preaching make any positive impact??
if it is the gospel being proclaimed and it is heard, yes but if not then no.


You cannot also be speaking in a noisy place and expect to be heard.
Christianity EtcRe: Does Roadside Preaching Make Any Positive Impact?? by gohf: 10:38am On Sep 15, 2024
StillDtruth:
Its time for preaching to stop. Everyone has heard everything before
Later you will now claim to be a child of God. 😂😂🤣
Christianity EtcRe: Correcting The Error Taught By RCCG In Today's Sunday School by gohf(op): 9:20am On Sep 15, 2024
Emusan:
So you don't know your Bible enough, I guess that part of the scripture has never been shown to you yet lying against God and His Holy spirit.

Well you can find that in Rev, 1:8, 22:13



Read your Bible without whatever you have been brainwashed with. You will see it.
Washed by the blood, cleansed by truth Halleluyah, if you have ears listen carefully

Revelation 22 began with revealing the Lord God before we hear the voice of angel whom John wanted to worship but then shortly after God himself speaks, if you knew God you would recognise when he speaks

Rev.22.12 - "And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work.
Rev.22.13 - I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last."


But neither do you know Him not have understanding from Him. For John wrote

Rev.20.11 - Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them.
Rev.20.12 - And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books.


Then you quoted Rev 1:8, come be taught wisdom and gain understanding if you humble yourself to learn

Rev.1.5 - and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth. To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood,
Rev.1.6 - and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.


God gave Jesus a revelation, Jesus gave it to his angel to give it to John.

Rev.1.8 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, says the Lord God, He Who is and Who was and Who is to come, the Almighty (the Ruler of all). (AMP)
Christianity EtcRe: Why Would A Robot Maker Become A Robot Himself To Save His Robots? by gohf: 9:09am On Sep 15, 2024
Lucifyre:
And how is my 'life in blood'? cause without any of the fluids, you die. So the flood wasn't to start afresh, my bad. It was according to you "God's display of anger" Oh so like an impatient narcissistic little child throwing a tantrum afterall. He supposedly gave them freewill and then was pissed off with what they did with it?! lol! Despite knowing the end from the beginning. That was part of the master plan right. Funny your subconscious agrees with me, with you referring to your god as it cause that's the most fitting description. 😁 What's even more funny is comparing a human to a supposed divine being where the human is supposedly inferior in order to justify shortcomings of said being. That's what i call... em what's the word again 'Pathetic'. As for the examples you requested of his word being nullified, they're actually so many its funny but i expect mental gymnastics as usual. How many of the commandments God gave in the Tanakh, do you follow?! If that's not nullification, i don't know what is.
Are you trying to win an argument or understand the point of a conversation?
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ Is Not God by gohf(op): 9:05am On Sep 15, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
That's rather harsh!

I don't know whatsoever that must've been said but my opinion is -
JESUS IS GOD

And the above is subject to understanding!
harsh? I didn't even call him a viper like John or say woe to him like Jesus would have.

You said subject to understanding? Who's understanding?

Your opinion is that Jesus is God, does the truth agree with your opinion, is your opinion the subject of your understanding?
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ Is Not God by gohf(op): 9:01am On Sep 15, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
"Step down" - He whose Kingdom is forever!!
the kingdom of GOD is forever
Christianity EtcThe Deity Of Jesus?! RCCG Sunday School by gohf(op): 9:00am On Sep 15, 2024
Unlike the topic which suggests the divinity of Christ Jesus, the content spells it out that Jesus is God not that Jesus is divine.

INTRODUCTION: While it may be difficult for some people to believe or accept the fact that Jesus is God, the evidence cannot be denied. Being in the form of God and equal with God (Philippians 2:6), He performed diverse miracles and demonstrated that He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life.

We see a clear focus on equating Jesus to God the Father, memory verse of the Sunday school: “But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.” – John 10:38 (KJV)

The question now is does the Father being in Jesus and Jesus being in the Father make Jesus God?
Is there really an understanding of what it means for two to abide in each other?
Another question, does abiding in Jesus Christ and Christ abiding in me, make me Jesus Christ? Does it make you equal to Jesus Christ? Even in John 15:4 where Jesus says we should abide in him and He in us, he doesn't equate the branch to the vine nor the vine to the vinedresser.

Is this a mistake by RCCG or a belief system that is the root of the church. Isn't the foundation of the church the revelation that Jesus is Christ, the son of the living God?

Now does the bible text show or agree in anyway the suggestion that Jesus is God

BIBLE PASSAGE: John 14:6-11 (KJV) (RCCG Sunday School Student Manual 15 September 2024)

6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.


Jesus doesn't call himself God neither does he call himself the Father. Jesus calls himself the way to God and not God

When you read the verses up to verse 10, Jesus should then have said, "believeth thou not that I am the Father?" No, but what John recorded that Jesus said was "believeth thou not that I am IN the Father, and the Father IN me... Father dwells in me and does the works."

As believers, born again, baptized in the Holy Spirit we reveal Christ who is in us by thr works that we do for it is Christ who lives through us and does the works. Even if you say o, it's the Holy Spirit who dwells in you, doing the works. The main question is, are you Christ, are you the Holy Spirit? No

The Holy Spirit, Christ, who dwells in you, does it not dwell in others as well? Yes
Does the fact that Christ is in someone mean that Jesus Christ isn't at the right hand of the Father? No

Do we realise that Jesus being in God and God being in Jesus does mean Jesus is God, it means Jesus is divine but not the God, creator of heavens and earth.

Philip asked, show us the Father. Has anyone gone for evangelism and was asked, you say Jesus is alive okay show him to me. The proof that Jesus lives is that the works that occured thousands of years ago recorded in the gospels is occuring even in the present day. People get healed, miracles occur, demons get cast out, deliverance occur, the blind see, the lame work, the mad receive sanity, the dead are raised back to life.

But does that make the vessel the content? No, it doesn't. Does Jesus not being God and being the son of God undermine him? No it doesn't.
When we realize who Jesus is, we see who we are co-heirs with and then we properly understand our inheritance from the Father.


RCCG Sunday school: Many miracles were performed by Jesus as proof that He is God.

Does miracles that occur through men of God proof that they are Christ or that they are God?

RCCG Sunday school: No other religion can claim the resurrection of their founders.

Meaning the gospel is our way of life, it is the truth and not just a religion. What does that statement "no other religion" is RCCG a religion that believes Jesus is God? A religion with laws that must be practiced to make heaven for one's self. Is it still a wonder that according to them, those who don't pay tithe will go to hell. Is that what Jesus taught?

What about the finished work of Christ? Did Christ even humble himself to the Father?
Phil.2.6 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, (NIV)
Phil.2.6 Who, although being essentially one with God and in the form of God [possessing the fullness of the attributes which make God God], did not think this equality with God was a thing to be eagerly grasped or retained, (AMP)

Is rccg strictly KJV?
In greek it is "en morphe theou" meaning in the form of God and "ouch harpagmon hegesato to einai isa Theo" meaning "Not something to consider equal with the God."


Have something is translated and understood can affect your view and understanding of God.

Even a small error as such can bring about such conclusion as this
CONCLUSION: There is no controversy, Jesus Christ is God. Anyone who disagrees does it at his/her peril.
Christianity EtcRe: Correcting The Error Taught By RCCG In Today's Sunday School by gohf(op): 11:25am On Sep 14, 2024
Emusan:
That is to show you that they know the truth but decided to follow falsehood

He is the one who said "The Father is God Almighty because He is the beginning and the ending"

Now that I show him that Jesus also called Himself the Beginning and the Ending, he change gear completely.
you showed who?

Okay tell us where did Jesus say so?

You are the truthful one abi. By the way it is John who wrote Revelation and I did not say what you misquoted 😁. Don't be a liar and a false accuser.

Where did Jesus say he is the beginning and the end, and call himself the Almighty God.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Would A Robot Maker Become A Robot Himself To Save His Robots? by gohf: 8:15pm On Sep 13, 2024
Lucifyre:
Why would blood be required? Why blood even? Why not saliva or sweat or urine? Yes i'm been facetious, but that's cause it makes no iota of sense and is just regurgitated lines of indoctrination. Besides which lost souls, i thought that was already taken care of with the flood. So how come after wiping everything cause of they weren't how you wanted, in order to start afresh, you still end up with 'lost souls' needing to be saved. Does that mean the first plan failed so it had to be redone?!

And this time instead of get angry and destroying everything like an impatient child, he decides to to 'forgive' but with extra kafkaesque steps that he himself set up. His words can not be nullified?! When there are several examples of exactly that happening and its explained a way with mental gymnastics. Nah! If a person forgives you for wrongdoing, they simply move on, no extra steps. QED.
because your life is not in saliva, sweat nor urine.

If you are asking about the flood, the question is did that look to you in anyway as a plan to save man? It was clearly God's display of anger. God wasn't starting afresh, Noah found favor and was spared. How is that starting afresh. Starting afresh by telling them they could now eat meat? Are you being serious?!

Are you not being pathetic by referring to it as impatient of a little child?

How old are you? How you ever been patient with someone who annoyed you more than a year, wait scratch that, a month without reacting?

Sorry not a month, just this post, can you be patient enough before getting impatient and anger.

Before you judge something try to check if you actually better.

By the way patiently tells us some of the "several examples" of God's word being nullified.
Christianity EtcRe: Correcting The Error Taught By RCCG In Today's Sunday School by gohf(op): 4:00pm On Sep 13, 2024
Emusan:
He has put gallow in his own neck

Now that you know Jesus is Alpha and Omega which means The Beginning and the ending

What do you have to say?
1Tim.1.6 But some teachers have missed this whole point. They have turned away from these things and spend their time arguing and talking foolishness.

Col.2.2 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; (Col.2.3) In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

...the mystery of God, BOTH of the Father and of Christ...

[Col.2.4 I say this in order that no one may mislead and delude you by plausible and persuasive and attractive arguments and beguiling speech.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ Is Not God by gohf(op): 2:33pm On Sep 13, 2024
Emusan:
Yes! Jesus the Almighty God the Creator of Heavens and the Earth, the ETERNAL LIFE HIMSELF, Lord and Savior of the World.

Any more question?
😂😂😂😂
Christianity EtcRe: Correcting The Error Taught By RCCG In Today's Sunday School by gohf(op): 2:32pm On Sep 13, 2024
Emusan:
Yet claiming to have Holy spirit explaining thing to him.

Lie against God and His word.

Now, the point is clear.

You agree that the Father called HIMSELF the beginning and the ending which means another person who claimed to be the beginning and the ending must also be God.

To burst your bubbles, that is exactly what Jesus called Himself Alpha and Omega

Let me see your next lie after all, you are the one who came up with that point.



Yes! He is THE BEGINNING.

Just as the Father is also THE BEGINNING



You RECEIVED but Jesus is the VERY ETERNAL LIFE.

Do you understand what that means?
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Christianity EtcWhen I Say Jesus Is Not God; Trinity Isn't The Gospel. by gohf(op): 2:31pm On Sep 13, 2024
When I say Jesus is not God, I am not speaking about divinity but his identity. Jesus is divine being the son of the Most High God, but for his identity he is not the Most High God.

Gabriel did not say, and the Most High God shall become flesh in you, infact it was the Power of the Most High and not even the Most High himself

Luke.1.32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David,

Luke.1.35 The angel replied, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the baby born to you will be holy, and he will be called the Son of God.

Why is it so important to believe that Jesus is the son of God and not God.

Well so that what is written in the new testament makes more sense to you, how he humbled himself and expects us to humble ourselves as well, how he obeyed God and expects us to obey God as well.


John was the one who wrote the Father, the Son and he Holy Spirit but did he call them three Gods? Where is it written and who said that these three are Gods?


Why would God the Father reveal He is God alone and then change to become three Gods? Who is lying? God does not lie but we humans do

Maybe due to our improper understanding...


Let us look at Revelations where Jesus and the Father God is revealed (do you know some would read this statement as one person being spoken about 😩)


The Father God speaking

Rev.1.8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End," says the Lord, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."

Rev.21.6 - And He said to me, "It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts.
Rev.21.7 - He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son.


But this is what Jesus says of himself
Rev.22.16 "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star."

But this what the Father says of himself
Rev.22.12 - "And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work.
Rev.22.13 - I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last."


But this is Jesus the Son

Rev.2.1 "To the angel of the church of Ephesus write, "These things says He who holds the seven stars in His right hand, who walks in the midst of the seven golden lampstands:

Rev.2.8 "And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write, "These things says the First and the Last, who was dead, and came to life:
(Before you jump at First and the Last; Matt.20.16 So the last will be first, and the first last. For many are called, but few chosen." Jesus the first and last begotten son who came to die for us, when we say first and last it means only one, he alone is Christ anointed by God alone)
Rev.2.12 "And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write, "These things says He who has the sharp two-edged sword:

Rev.2.18 "And to the angel of the church in Thyatira write, "These things says the Son of God, who has eyes like a flame of fire, and His feet like fine brass:
Rev.3.1 "And to the angel of the church in Sardis write, "These things says He who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars: "I know your works, that you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead.
Rev.3.7 "And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write, "These things says He who is holy, He who is true, "He who has the key of David, He who opens and no one shuts, and shuts and no one opens":
Rev.3.14 "And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write, "These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God:

Wait Jesus calls himself the beginning of God's creation oh oh



Ladies and gentlemen, brethren God is NOT an author of confusion

There is no mystery and deception that God came down and no one knew, there is no new revelation except from the pit of hell, for any spirit to doesn't testify that Jesus the son of God came in the flesh is a lying and false spirit.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ Is Not God by gohf(op): 2:15pm On Sep 13, 2024
Emusan:
Say God the Almighty



I don't have way, I only follow Jesus way!
which Jesus, is he the son of God who came in flesh, humbled Himself to the father and died and rose again and is seated at the right hand of the Father or is it your imaginary Jesus who you claim is God of heaven?
Christianity EtcRe: Correcting The Error Taught By RCCG In Today's Sunday School by gohf(op): 2:11pm On Sep 13, 2024
Emusan:
And you don't know that the Father is also THE BEGINNING AND THE ENDING.

o ma se oooo
sorry I shouldn't have written he but HE, as in the Father. Because it is only the Father God who said of Himself I am the beginning and the end, God Almighty

Rev.1.8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End," says the Lord, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."

Rev.21.6 - And He said to me, "It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts.
Rev.21.7 - He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son.


But this is what Jesus says of himself
Rev.22.16 "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star."

But this what the Father says of himself
Rev.22.12 - "And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work.
Rev.22.13 - I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last."


But this is Jesus the Son

Rev.2.1 "To the angel of the church of Ephesus write, "These things says He who holds the seven stars in His right hand, who walks in the midst of the seven golden lampstands:

Rev.2.8 "And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write, "These things says the First and the Last, who was dead, and came to life:
(Before you jump at First and the Last; Matt.20.16 So the last will be first, and the first last. For many are called, but few chosen."wink
Rev.2.12 "And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write, "These things says He who has the sharp two-edged sword:

Rev.2.18 "And to the angel of the church in Thyatira write, "These things says the Son of God, who has eyes like a flame of fire, and His feet like fine brass:
Rev.3.1 "And to the angel of the church in Sardis write, "These things says He who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars: "I know your works, that you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead.
Rev.3.7 "And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write, "These things says He who is holy, He who is true, "He who has the key of David, He who opens and no one shuts, and shuts and no one opens":
Rev.3.14 "And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write, "These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God:

Wait Jesus calls himself the beginning of God's creation oh oh



Very clear he didn't understand till now.
are you not jusy proud in your own eyes?!

Jesus is the VERY ETERNAL LIFE, which means wasn't created nor having ending.

Spot the difference.



To be ETERNAL MEANS no beginning nor ending, not created which is the reason you agree that a being is called GOD.

because HE HAS NO BEGINNING OR END OF LIFE.
so we who have received eternal life who have eternal life have now become God Almighty, we have no beginning and no ending right?
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ Is Not God by gohf(op): 1:55pm On Sep 13, 2024
Emusan:
Your rant!

Read and understand.



Guilty conscience.



Yes and you read it loud and clear!
you are truly unrepentant ah well what was i expecting from you anyway 😩😩

Continue in your way
Christianity EtcRe: Correcting The Error Taught By RCCG In Today's Sunday School by gohf(op): 1:54pm On Sep 13, 2024
Emusan:
Then throw away those part where God didn't say anything in the scripture since the Bible is no MORE GOD'S WORD at least that will boost your lie the more.
lol I don't care who are telling that the truth is a lie, no child of God would listen to you because they know that the Son of God is the word of God.
Christianity EtcRe: Correcting The Error Taught By RCCG In Today's Sunday School by gohf(op): 1:50pm On Sep 13, 2024
Emusan:
You should answer your own question according to how it applied to you.



THIS IS THE EVIDENCE THAT YOU PEOPLE TRULY LACK UNDERSTANDING.

What makes God to be God is His nature which means for a being to be called God, it means self existence (ETERNAL), all knowing, all powerful e.t.c.

That 1 john clearly shows that Jesus is the VERY ETERNAL LIFE.

it means Jesus has no beginning and end.
and yet he is the beginning and the ending?

You who has understanding why don't you answer, let me ask you more questions you will also have no answers for

Does having eternal life make one God Almighty?


So, Jesus being Son of God isn't an issue but you failed to understand what does it mean to be ETERNAL.
why don't you tell us, what does it mean to have eternal life, what does it mean to be eternal? Why don't you tell us, instead of trying to confuse us, tell us what it means.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Would A Robot Maker Become A Robot Himself To Save His Robots? by gohf: 1:45pm On Sep 13, 2024
Lucifyre:
Maybe because YHVH was a psychopathic genocidal maniac that had to satisfy his thirst for blood one more time so he couldn't just forgive outright, he had to kill or 'sacrifice' himself to himself to appease himself for rules and circumstances orchestrated by himself. Funny thing is Jesus outrightly forgave people before his death but still had to die for everyone to be forgiven. Hmm! What a clusterfuck of absolute horse shit just like the torah as well.
The blood was required to redeem souls, for the redemption of lost souls.

Forgiveness of sins is one thing
Punishment for sins is another, God is just as He is merciful and His word cannot be nullified, the soul that sins shall die, so death must be paid for the sins of a soul.

And when a person truly forgive you they clear your debts for you.

If I forgave you a debt and still asked you to pay, have I forgiven your debt?

Jesus forgave and paid the price
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ Is Not God by gohf(op): 1:21pm On Sep 13, 2024
Kingsempires:
Jesus is not God but the people who gathered the bible you are using believe Jesus is God
who are the "people who gathered" the bible that believe Jesus is God?
Christianity EtcRe: Correcting The Error Taught By RCCG In Today's Sunday School by gohf(op): 1:18pm On Sep 13, 2024
OkCornel:
God (Eloi) is a title. Different persons (Father, Son, Holy Spirit, Angels etc) can bear the title.

Don’t confuse the title with the person.

Elohim (Gods) is the plural of Elo

The Father (Hashem, Yahweh) is the most high (El Elyon) whom Jesus refers to as “my God”.

Don’t get it twisted, just same way King is a title. Different people can bear the title of King, it doesn’t mean they’re the same person. For example, David and Saul were kings, doesn’t mean David and Saul are the same person.

That should clear out the confusion.
God is a title given to who? By whom? And for what purpose?
Christianity EtcRe: Correcting The Error Taught By RCCG In Today's Sunday School by gohf(op): 1:13pm On Sep 13, 2024
Kingsempires:
so your point is that the RCCG doctrines is being contradicted cool
if that's the only point you got from that, please do read it again, study if you may

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