₦airaland Forum

soetanoreoluwa:
That's Nigerians for us... We forgot good things easily but hold on to bad experience...

Nobody is talking about 36 WCQ unbeaten runs second team after Spain... It makes me happy and glad...

so many positives from the eagles so far and for the first time, we have started early preparations for the world cup by using our last dead rubber wcq game and a grade A international friendly with Argentina in russia where the world cup itself will hold.

It can't get better than that. Finally, the super eagles of old would have bundled today's match by the regular big players not tuning up e.g. Okocha, some players would have even selected to play argentina instead of algeria. But look at the eagles today playing as if they are yet to qualify. The patriotism players like balogun, ekong, iwobi and the rest are showing is something to be proud of and mikel turning up for a dead rubber match despite not playing is something that was missing even in the era of oliseh and co.

is the team perfect? No but they deserve all the credits, if person pass exam, he should be commended and not be blamed again for his bad hand writing when he has good results to show

Humility017:
my fear is rohr sticking wit the errors of today...same mistakes he made against RSA....he rarely make changes...

etebo is not AM...why play him there...you see today the boy was lost...his impact was rarely felt...why not swap wing with iwobi...

and for nwakeme guy....I fear he does not start him same...against Argentina....


rohr is a good man manager I agree....but this area of tactics leaves me scared...

are you aware that the games against algeria and argentina are experimental games? if he does not experiment now, when will he do it? at the world cup? look here rohr has his starting 11 already, he is only trying out new experiment and which games will he do that? there are nothing at stake with these games and so expect more trial and error. You guys are not even appreciating the fact that just in november alone we are playing two warm up games to prepare the eagles.

you guys should chill pls

Humility017:
I don't see anything wrong with criticising a team....provided it is a constructive one.

so please....we should let everyone pour out their minds.....though i don't support names calling....
after all...every honest person will admit that alot still need to be done...in regarding the super eagles....

the criticisms today are not only destructive but catastrophic, what was even at stake in today's match for God's sake? let's be less emotional pls

soetanoreoluwa:
I tire o... Just dey imagine if Argentina flog our ass Next Week... Imagine what people will call the coach and the player . just that I don't think we will lose the Argentina match...

Do you remember we once beaten Argentina by 4 goals to 1... In 2011 at national stadium abuja...
Allegedly fixed match....?

honestly expect the worst from nigerians if we loose to argentina, they will forget it's a friendly match and bash hell out of rohr and the players like they have done today despite its a dead rubber game. Ezenwa may be crucified upside down should we loose.

realpoacher:
Am sure you will do better than Rohr. When some of you criticise, you do it so blindly that it looks like you have a personal score to settle with the coach. Give this man some credit. This is the first time in a long while that we qualified without calculator and here with a game to spare, Algeria needed a dubious referee assisted penalty to draw at their own backyard against our second team. What were you expecting?, that we go there and whitewash them?... Na we buy boot for dem?

Some of you guys here with negative words, criticism, and "never see good in Rohr" are a suspect. I believe that besides our team's success, you guys might have an ulterior motives.

I mean how else do one explain the name calling and demeaning remarks on this match and on our players.?.. In the viewing center where I just watched this game, applause and praises were all the players received only to come online to read this rubbish!

I am beginning to think that many of you are kids who knows nothing about our history in football or better still you guys are all foreign based Nigerians who are just beginning to show interest in our football.

That should be the only reason why you guys throw new players at the coaching crew upandan and making weird statements calling it tactics.

From time immemorial, apart from westerhof. Rohr is the only foreigner doing something great about the Super Eagles, heck it took almighty westerhof 4 years to do what Rohr is doing for us under a year. And the best you lots can do is to criticise, insult and demean his ability, capability and achievements so far.

I don't blame you, you all probably won't be saying this had we been stucked at the bottom of this group, to which the worst you would have done is to sack him.

Armchair coach is what I call you all, and not until you guys take up a coaching job, it remains so.

Honestly it is nauseating reading many negative comments here. Just imagine you wishing us to lose, you have been saying it since last month. And since we didn't lose today, instead of running home with your tail in between your legs, you are making a lame attempt at being a contempt.

If you can't support this team positively, abeg maintain your Lane.

SMH!

Honestly we have too many immature folks on nairaland and is worrying, Rohr that took the risk of coaching the eagles where other coaches were scared. na wa o

tbaba1234:
Too many complainers, we just completed the easiest WC group for a very long time. There is work to be done and i believe we are on the right track.

Nigerians are never satisfied, thank God we have qualified o, if not rohr would have been beheaded by now, we have started again with our nonsense complaining, I remembered how we complained badly against philip troussier and brought in Bora yet we disgraced ourselves in france 98.

Rohr deserve all the praises for daring to coach the Eagles where other top coaches avoided us because they felt we couldn't qualify from this difficult group

nigeria's unbeaten wcq record maintained well done super eagles

zenmaster:
I am a Lagosian, not an impostor.
Support Nigeria and dont be tribalistic

Stop claiming what's not yours not good at all

zenmaster:
Leave Lagos for Lagosians
Lagos is not even a Yoruba name

For impostors like you abi?

zenmaster:
Read what the article says.

Its old that has been read over and over again OK? Stop claiming what's not yours so your children won't loose their identity

zenmaster:
Stop forming suffersticated.
Read the article and accept reality.

Actually I don't blame you, you know. The oba is the one to be blamed cos you folks don't clearly understand the territorial boundary he truly controls. So no be your fault at all. I live in the Isheri magodo axis and that is not part of the oba"s domain. The small island, isale eko is the territory the oba controls and if he says that is part of Yoruba land, then its not my problem but the oba and those who hail from there. Where I live in Lagos is part and parcel of Yoruba land. Get it?

zenmaster:
There is nothing corrupt there.
Oba has said it, and you must respect and obey the Oba

oba said you are from Lagos?

zenmaster:
Please mind your business in Ogbomosho.
And leave we-the-Lagosians to live our life in peace

by the way am not from ogbomoso and I do not claim Lagos even though its my place of birth but why claim what it's not yours!

that is corruption nah

Bolustical:
Democracy has always been a government by the few and the few and for the few. Even after Donkey years, this Tunde still benefits from his dad's rep.

Same in all democracies of the world, the Clinton, Bush and Kenedy families in the US

The Treadeu in Canada,

Not to talk about the Sarakis, Tinubus and Nwodos in Nigeria.

Democracy is an illusion.

I tell you real demonstration of craze is what democracy is all about, you forgot the kenyatta dynasty in kenya

zenmaster:
why are you confused

you were asked where in Lagos are you from and you can't answer, so who's confused?

zenmaster:
Lagos is our state

see confusion

zenmaster:
You can ask the Oba when u meet him na

You know him more than I do so where did he tell you he's from

NgeneUkwenu:
CAN is just a department in PDP. Unless They come to endorse Buhari for 2019, like Governor Umahi, I dont see the Reason while Buhari should meet with this Useless Politicians called CAN.

Mtcheeeew!

na attention CAN de find and they finally got it!

zenmaster:
Oba of Lagos has said Lagos is not Yoruba land.
Why are you now vexing for Igbo people.

Igbo amaka

so where is the oba himself from? Onitsha abi

zenmaster:
heheheheheheheh
Says the man who is NOT even from Lagos

am also not from biafra and you did not get biafra, see what I mean?

zenmaster:
What is provocative about stating the facts

oh you call lies fact eh? and what's so special about Lagos that you want to hang yourself for when some folks are even renouncing their Nigerian citizenship, like I told one of your colleagues you did not get biafra, you will also not get Lagos, trust me on this.

vaxx:
i posted two argument there, instead of you to refute my claim. you are bringing in your strawmen argument as usual ...



This is is the argument again.....

Lagos was pre occupied by the awories in 15 century , they were predominantly fishermen and hunter..

There is different between lagos state and lagos Portuguese.....


If you must know, the word lagos (eko)was crested by the awories not the binin..... This is the pronunciation in yoruba vocab....(Yoruba: Èkó) Bini are not just offshoot of yoruba, they are yoruba by themselves that is another story for another day.....


Before the prince ado( war lord ) was invited to wage war against the Dahomey empire who are about to take the place from them....the word eko ile has been used.......


The same thing happen when eko wanted to be taken by the fullani, the Oyo warriors were invited to stop them in Oshogbo.....



If you are ignorance of a knowledge..... Ask you shall be given..... You are getting more nairaland confused with this your mr lekki and Mr badagry coinage...

it actually sounds like mickey mouse

zenmaster:
Lagos remains 51% Igbo, despite all the mumu sufferstication

I know you are trying to be provocative but take a cue from your brother Point B, made his point but more descent than you

bakynes:
Nobody is shifting goal post just telling you some names don't have direct meaning. Ikorodu is an Ijebu territory go there and see people speaking Ijebu dialects on the street but I don't know the meaning of Ikorodu , I don't know the meaning of Oshogbo, Ekiti.

So you want to also contest Ikorodu with Ijebus now (Yorubas)

Tell me the meaning of Yenegoa

egbon e don do make we leave matter for matthias, I think the message is clear, inasmuch as we want to coe-exist, everybody should contnue to answer im papa name so that our children do not loose sight of their true identity like the average african american who is still annoyed with his ancestors who sold his grandparents all in the name of slave trade

PointB:
You revel in skirmishes and small victories, and you form sophistication. Good luck man!

Good luck to you bruv, I must admit, I enjoy this conversation with you and we both know it's not intended to hurt any of us, this is how to engage each other when it comes to issues of national importance. It's not about who is right or wrong but to deepen our sense of nationalism and co-existence. Have a great weekend, I look forward to more of this kind of engagement

PointB:
Obj and Atiku failure is not same as failure of cash. After God money answereth all things!

cash fail those men big time, make we no lie here, let me add one more, if it was cash, bode george no go land jail. Cash de fail man bruv

PointB:
Time and chance dear time and chance.

We (North and South) are monitoring your moves in Lagos. If and when you make such moves that threatens the interest of other Nigerians in Lagos, that is when you'll realize that national politics is different from the sufferstication you guys indulge in as politics!

forget that thing, have people not been deported from Lagos? did heaven fall? in the past two days, okada riders have been dealt with in Lagos, who de monitor who? monitor what people are doing for the best of their own land? who is monitoring them in akwa-ibom, who is monitoring them in rivers, this is a federation and every state will continue to function in the best interest of their indigenes.

PointB:
Pride and prejudice will fade, in the end cash is King.

cash has its limits, if not atiku will be President by now and obj would have gotten third term easily. How much cash does PMB have?

PointB:
So you agree that the Constitution can change the fate of Lagos? Do you also agree that SW cannot save Lagos from the Constitution if other Nigerians think Lagos need to change status for sake of Nigeria?

And you think anyone can change the constitution to the disadvantage of the yorubas? This is where the political games will be played, the senators from lagos asked for a special status for lagos, the senators from the se team up with their counterparts from the north to shout it down, no hard feelings, then next the se senators brought a bill for a special dev fund for the se and wanted everyone including the sw senators to support the bill and we all know how the bill was thrown away. Any change in the constitution that will not favour the sw will not see the light of the day trust me, shout from today till tomorrow, politics will always decide whatever change. You think the north is stupid for making sure they are always on top of any political games in Nigeria, they know that's what will decide commerce or trade. Do you see northerners struggling with the yorubas for land, commerce or other assets in lagos? They know where the actual battle is and they go there

PointB:
No please.

Both Yoruba and non-Yoruba buy land from in Lagos. But everyone has a price. If you are ready to pay over the top for a piece of real estate and are ready to pay quickly, it usually sway the seller.

Secondly, it make little or no sense to limit your potential market (as land seller) to a specific group of people. You may end up selling cheap or dying of hunger. So if land owners say they won't sell to non-yorubas, we'll see how that goes when the wad is padded!

life is way beyond trading bruv, if not by now Dangote would have bought over Arsenal club or you think he can't buy it for any price they want to offer it? Things don't work that way all the time, if not by now the Lagos state would have taken over the National stadium, National theater and other FG properties or you think Lagos state does not have the money or individuals? Why is the FG refusing to even allow the state govt do some roads? Everything in life does not revolve around commerce alone and by the way currently, it's now difficult to get c of o right now in Lagos, you think the govt does not want to make money again?

PointB:
How much of their 'country' can they get back? Their country has moved on and they have been left behind. No one is saying Yorubas should not play politics in Lagos; politics all Yoruba know how to do, so by all mean go ahead. But realize there is limit to any politics Yoruba can play. Like those who voted Trump to take back their country are failing, same fate await anyone who plays politics with the intention of returning Lagos back to stone age - failure of abysmal proportion. Such individual(s) or group are best served chasing shadows, they have better chance catching shadows than returning Lagos to a predominant Yoruba enclave.

Now you folks keep asking Igbos to forget Biafra and move on. Please take a page from your book. Lagos was a Yoruba City; Lagos is now a Nigerian city. It belongs to all, and it belongs to no one. Lagos is now No-man's Land. Forget Lagos and move on. Resistance is not only futile, but retrogressive.

Lagos state is a state like any other state in Nigeria that does not have any special status attached to it and and will remain so until the constitution say otherwise. it will also continue to operate like every other indigenous state in Nigeria, reason the State assembly adopted the yoruba language officially to be taught in all schools. The state assembly will continue to make laws that will rubber stamp that status as far as the indigenes who are represented in the state assembly are okay with it. We can whine and shout online, it will not change anything. Tinubu and his cronies were politically naive initially but they have all realized that as Lagos economy expands, they also have a duty to uphold the cultural heritage. Watch out as the politicians starts to do their manoveurs cos they have now realized that their so called friends are not too many. Don't think the fate that befall the Hausas who allow the fulani minority to dominate them will happen in Lagos or any other south west state. lessons have been learnt from the past and the yorubas are way too smart for that.

Don't use your biafra ish loss to try and contend for Lagos, you will loose again cos you folks are not very good political strategists, not everything is buying land or trading, life is way beyond that bruv

PointB:
I don't know the size of Oba's palace; but if valuable mineral is discovered on the piece of estate, it's only a matter of time before he sells. So what is suffering about someone making such a smart decision to sell? If land owners didn't sell the lands in Lagos, will we be here having conversation about the value of Lagos? Will you have the population to make Lagos the buzzing city it is now? Or you somehow think Lagos attain this status by refusing to welcome people - sell lands?

so only non-yorubas buy land in Lagos? Yorubas don't own land at all abi?