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vooks:
Image123 is pettiness incarnate. She tried to blackmail Goshen by digging a 2006 thread and reminding him that she now knows him

Are you sure you are ok?


1. Image is not a she
2. If it's the post I made for him to correct, about his addresses and phone number, then, I am most certain, more than ever, that you have reading and comprehension disability.

Lobeez:
Do you mind sharing with us where you got this idea?

[NLT] Hebrews 1:14 Therefore, angels are only servants —spirits sent to care for people who will inherit salvation.

It's not an idea, it's in the good book. Read it and help your ignorance. If servants care for someone, it means they take instructions from the one they care for. Eg, the servants of GEJ who take care of him, who do you think give the other institutions? Now, God is the big boss, he can send them to instruct us. Eg if God sends Gabriel to me, my angels would have to stand down. It's called hierarchy. Go study

I love this translation

What are all the angels? They are spirits sent to serve those who are going to receive salvation.

Why was this possible? Simple

Romans 8:17
Now if we are children, then we are heirs--heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.

The Holy Spirit In You · Sunday, October 26th

Pastor Chris

Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works (John 14:10).

The Lord Jesus, in the days of His earthly ministry, walked in close fellowship with the Holy Spirit. He did nothing without the Holy Spirit. In the verse above, He identifies the Holy Spirit as the Father that dwells in Him. In John 5:19, He said, "… The Son can do nothing by himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise." He acknowledged the Holy Spirit as the Father in Him, and the doer of the work. That’s a fact you must recognize in your life as a Christian.

The Holy Spirit in you is your key to extraordinary and absolute success. None of those who walked with Him as revealed in the Scriptures was ever defeated; none was a failure. Everyone who received Him gained the mastery, and became the champion. Many in the Church today need to know for sure who the Holy Spirit is, and His ministry in their lives. He is Himself God. He’s the active power of the Godhead. To have Him in you is to be made for life.Having received the Holy Spirit to live in you, be in constant fellowship with Him. Listen to Him and act on His Word. Recognize that He’s a person, and He lives inside you, mingled with your spirit. If there’s anything I know, it’s my fellowship with the Holy Spirit; that’s where my confidence is. When I fellowship with Him, my limitations are removed; I’m conscious that He has made me a victor and a winner for life.

In walking in fellowship with the Holy Spirit, you must realize that He knows and understands you more than you know yourself. He knows how to handle you. There’s nothing about you that’s strange to Him. He’s more passionate about your success than you could ever be. Just be yielded and obedient to Him in all that He leads and guides you in, and your life will be such an inspiring example of the work of Grace.

Prayer...
Dear Father, I thank you for bringing me into such great union and fellowship with the Spirit. I walk in your perfect will today, and in my glorious inheritance in Christ, because I’m guided by the Holy Spirit; His wisdom is expressed through me today, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study: 
1 Corinthians 6:17; [KJV] But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

Romans 8:14; [KJV] For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Romans 8:9 [KJV] But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

1 year Bible reading plan: Jeremiah 19-22 2 timothy 2:1-26
2 year Bible reading plan: Hebrews 13:1-25 Ezekiel 25-26

^^
I was about replying you concisely, but when I saw you doubted angels are miniistering spirits under the authority of a believer in Christ Jesus! Even though Hagin gave you scriprures? I didn't want to continue the use of greek words to explain somethings, because folks are having trouble understanding english already... I just decided to let you wallow in your ignorance! Oh! How I wish God will open your eyes to see how angels assigned to you await instructions from you, but guess what? He never will, till you understand why angels are angels.

But why is it that most of you have reading and comprehension problems? I must say Drummaboy and Kunle looks a bit sharper than the rest, who seem irredeemably dim witted.

I don dey go church.

Image123:
Your time is wrong, are you in Sierra Leone?
You delivered zero. None of those my posts say NONE of these fakeries and detestable acts happen locally. You understand English i'm sure?

Certainly, reading and comprehension skills is a deficiency with some folks here. Image, you were really waiting?

nlMediator:
First off, you have no idea how well or not the book, Midas Touch, has done in sales. Making such a conclusion based on an anecdote or two from a Nigerian bookstore is irresponsible. The book was not written primarily for a Nigerian audience. And even if it was, you need to base your assertion on more solid evidence like number of sales from the booksellers association, amazon rankings, etc.
Let's assume the book did not sell very well. I thought the explanation all along was that the contents of the book were not palatable to some owners of the church bookstores? Which is it, not naming names or not writing what they like? You guys need to make up your mind. Oh, by the way, your logic is less than pedestrian. Let me get it straight: the church bookshelves would have been filled with the book if the book had named the culprits; that way the culprits and their acolytes will ensure that their shelves are filled with the book that casts them in negative light with their names boldly displayed! Even you are capable of better reasoning!
Better still, if the books did not sell because names were not named, should it not concern any true christian that people would not buy a book whose message is relevant but would only do so if names are included? So, the draw is not doctrine but gossip? Interesting.
Regarding your WOF thread, you humor yourself a lot. Your thread is as useless as they come. The things you are complaining about have been out there even in bigger platforms. That you're ignorant of that does not mean such critical outlets do not exist. Even in Nigeria, I know of christian attacks against WOF for at least 20 years - saying similar things to what you say here. At the end of the day, they accomplish little. Perhaps, because the attackers are not going about it God's way or because they offer their hearers little, beside bitterness.
And talking of offering little, have you noticed that all of you that are devoted to attacking WOF would rather do anything but debate the substance of Midas Touch? It's rather (a) Hagin's motive in writing it; (b) preacher's motive in not adhering to the message; (c) whether rebuke should be publicly or privately done. You'd think that those that think WOF is rubbish have been handed an easy platform to demonstrate the rubbishness. But you can't. In fact, the opposite of your wishes is happening: people that don't care that much about Hagin are seeing that he's not the monster you've been painting him to be and have even seen areas of agreement. That's why you rushed for a video that you think puts him in a bad light because you can't bear to see him enjoy the opposite of your wish - a tarnished image. 1
Of course, you're failing woefully. As is your WOF thread. I hate to break it to you, but based on the immensity of investment into that thread, it is a monumental failure. With all the hype and your adverts from thread to thread, you've only mustered a few thousand views over several months. And even that is padded. 2 Because there are 3 principals of the thread, your visits are about thrice more than would be the case if there was one principal. Also, because you are so slow to post material there, people are forced to visit more often that would be the case. E.g., if you post 10 items in one day, somebody may visit once and read it all. If you take 10 days to post 10 items, some people would have to visit 10 times, thereby increasing the number of views. So, the real number of views (soon) would be about 500 in 5 months!
Which is not so bad, compared to the number of visits to your blog!! 3

The colored is so true, , that Drummaboy aka WinsomeX confidently copies from their sites and paste here. I know one anti WoF guy, who’s been writing and hating since 1996. From then till now, he has had no accomplishment, neither does he manage a comment in years. These guys are still jokers. I've already told them, their weapons of warfare are carnal.

BOld 1
They knew if they celebrate Hagin for the book, it would mean them eating a humble pie, so what next? They thought "let's call a dog a bad name, so that we can hang it."
Little do they know they made folks seach more about Hagin, and boy, I gave them more Hagin books and E. W. Kenyon. It's all working together for good bro!

Bold 2
Imagine same folks sitting and discussing, nothing to offer except copy and paste and some short videos, and in months, only a few thousand view, yet to some deluded mind, it was a success.

Bold 3
That blog! Hmmm, I wish he took his WoF campaign there, it probably would not have been this dead. At least his rag tag team would be there too. Let them have a field day, I'd continue the book.

Gradually turning this thread into a anti-WoF thread. Interesting!

I'd let you folks have a swell time, then, I'd Continue with the book. You lot were same number in you WoF thread, discusing within yourselves...Just about...like 5 of you all..maybe image I think too. No other new person, yet, it is a success according to WinsomeX. This thread has made folks download the book, and by reading, they'll improve. My inbox testifying already.

Anyways, a little assignment, take the number of daily visits to that WoF teaching thread by 6am, review it by 9pm. That thread on a good day (days you lot don't go in and out with ridiculous tales), your threads don't get 30 Visits, yet it was successful.

Anyways, I'd continue with the book when I see some sanity restored.

vooks:
Except you are a coward and you can't admit the obvious; Hagin debunked Firstfruits lies with the contempt they deserve

Your opinion is duly noted. Goshen your attention is needed here o


Please click here and tell them mods to do something about it, that's if it's necessary

Stumbled over it online, I now know what you look like sha. Cheers

Watching!

PastorKun:
Yeah I have been keeping a tab on the thread though I can't seem to keep up due to the avalanche of posts on the thread. That said I want you accept my sympathies as I am bewildered how an otherwise intelligent young man can be so thoroughly brainwashed that you now seem to be arguing against yourself whilst holding on to straws to justify oyak's fraudulent doctrines even when his oga at the top have refuted the doctrines.

I know you must be going through some very serious internal battles now as you are fighting the reality staring you in the face that your idol oyaks is a charlatan but it's all for the better. God would surely deliver you from the shackles of oyak's and his cult. Amen

No internal battles buddy! I'm focused, and sure I'm grounded. Funny you guys call Hagin right in regards firstfruits, and wrong in tithing, right in abuse and false practices, but he's wrong in Jesus' clothing. But me, I endorsed the book all through, and recommending it to others.

Pastor kun, I see you o! How are you today? You've been missing in the thread, I hope you are fine? Saw your tithe thread, and your efforts. Newbies are doing a great job there. Remain blessed.

Happy weekend

vooks:
Thank you but could you summarize Hagin's position on firstfruits in two sentences

Gombs:
I have given my summary of what Hagin said, flip this thread 2-3 pages back, if you aren't satisfied, I'm sorry then, nothing much I can do.

Just in case you missed it on the other post. I have already summarised it in more than 2 sentences. Thanks

vooks:
You need something smart, something Steve Jobs-esque

Can you in two sentences summarize Hagin's position on FIrstfruits

Yeah! Surely. Here's Hagin's summary in a sentence.

"A stupid man's report (vooks et al) of what a clever man says (Hagin) can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears read into something he can understand.” ― Bertrand Russell, A History of Western Philosophy

Then with regards some folks who are saying Paul rebuked Peter in public glare, i summarised it thus;

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use.” ― Søren Kierkegaardtags

Nlmediator's summary is below

“Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.”  ― George Carlin

Meanwhile, my post you quoted has nothing to do with firstfruits, if you want to say something relating to someone else's post you quoted, make sure they are related. I have given my summary of what Hagin said, flip this thread 2-3 pages back, if you aren't satisfied, I'm sorry then, nothing much I can do.

Those who wants us to go to that WoF discussion, should endeavour to make it the one that went with nairaland tsunami. Oh yeah! Not the one you guys sat and discussed yourselves. That thread would be brought back, by me, hopefully. There, you'd see where true gospel preachers in serious blunder, yet, not being able to admit. That thread transformed Drummaboy to WinsomeX, and some others to rabid fellows.

There was where DB said there is no such thing as God kind of faith, his minions shedemidemi, babagnoni, goshen etc were behind him. Goshen, shedemidemi has had treasonable blunder, but thank God for NL tsunami.

When the tsunami took those threads, they immediately opened this one WinsomeX aka DB claims was a success, yet they all seem to have an agenda of putting it in every thread they visit.

If you guys want to discuss, bring back the old one, or ask me to... or on second thought, I will bring it back.

Now, back to the book. I'm having a bit issue with my modem o, and I don't want to take the sim off my tab and put in the modem. But, if push gets to shove, I will. Thanks for your patience

Be Diligent · Saturday, October 25th

Pastor Chris

Seest thou a man diligent in his business? he shall stand before kings; he shall not stand before mean men (Proverbs 22:29).

Diligence is the ability to exercise carefulness, persistence, and determination in ensuring excellence in any endeavour. It is giving the degree of care that’s required in a given situation. You’re diligent when you employ commitment and perseverance in transforming vision into reality. Those are two key elements of diligence: commitment and perseverance. The Lord expects this of us in carrying out all that He instructs us to do.

A diligent person puts his very best into what he or she does, and pays attention to details to achieve perfection. When you’re diligent, God promotes you and brings you to the place of influence and authority. That’s what we read in our opening verse: you’ll stand before kings and not ordinary men.

Consider David: his diligence and faith in tending his father’s "few sheep" (1 Samuel 17:28) eventually gave him the required training and experience, paving the way for him to defeat Goliath of Gath, and be the champion for Israel.

Read about him in 1 Samuel 17, and you’d realize how diligent he was in taking care of his father’s sheep. When his father sent him to the battlefront to enquire how his brothers were faring, the Bible tells us specifically that David left the sheep with a keeper (1 Samuel 17:20). He didn’t say, "Well, it’s only a short distance; I’ll be back in no time" and ran off; no. He got someone to tend the sheep while he was away; that’s being diligent. No wonder he was chosen of God to be king over Israel.

If you study the lives of successful men and women all around the world, no matter in which field, you’ll discover one common factor in their lives—diligence. It’s one vital ingredient for success that you must practise, both in your personal life, and in spiritual things also. Be diligent in prayer, study of the Word, and fellowship with the Holy Spirit. These will enrich you spiritually; you’ll become successful in your spirit, where true success really resides.

Confession...
 I’m diligent! I exercise carefulness, persistence and determination in ensuring excellence in everything I do! I pay attention to details, and employ commitment and perseverance in transforming vision into reality. I’m a good steward of Christ; faithful to His Word, and faithful to the fellowship with the Spirit! Halleluiah!

Further Study: 
Proverbs 10:4; [KJV] He becometh poor that dealeth with a slack hand: but the hand of the diligent maketh rich.

2 Corinthians 8:7 [KJV] Therefore, as ye abound in every thing, in faith, and utterance, and knowledge, and in all diligence, and in your love to us, see that ye abound in this grace also.

1 year Bible reading plan: Jeremiah 17-18 2 timothy 1:1-18
2 year Bible reading plan : Hebrews 12:14-29 Ezekiel 24

nlMediator:
Excellent response.

Besides, you said the clothes were worth 50k and you got them for 3k. The guy interprets it to mean that the clothes were worth 3k. What kind of math is that? The value of an item is determined exclusively by what is paid for them? I believe the guy's claim that he's a millionaire. I also believe he's a good christian. Only a loving God can make one a millionaire with such level of thinking or skill base.

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Nlmdiator o... thanks for ending my night on a hearty note

sorry folks, got so busy i could not put up the said topics. I am so tired now. Tomorrow is a good day to discuss. Thank you all.

Mba, welldone... you're killing it.

Bidam:
Pls indulge my inquisitive mind, is this the ONLY message you teach your congregation? You are hardly on any threads except the tithe threads.

Hahhahhaahaahhaahahaha, *falls of chair laughing.

Folks, chapter 8 would have to wait... work things, but today's Friday, right? We'd Continue with the chapter we did yesterday. I saw more cogent articles we need discuss in that book.

Nannymcphee, I have answered my bit, I won't go in circles. If you don’t want to give firstfruits in cash, give it in foodstuffs or whatever you wish, thanks.

Chapter 8 Loading... 24 principles from the Epistles regarding Money, giving and receiving

trustman:
Hagin said:

"Making a New Testament application of Old Testament technicalities violates every principle of Bible interpretation, especially when there isn't a single New Testament usage of the word "firstfruits" in the context in which it is being preached by some ministers. 

The concept of firstfruits is not used in the New Testament in reference to financial giving. There is not even the vaguest hint of it by any New Testament writer in reference to money or the support of ministers."

The commonsense understanding of what Hagin said is simply this: Hagin does not advocate the demand for or the paying of 'Firstfruits'. 
However since your church believes in it strongly you are finding it hard to wriggle out of it. 
You have good 'comprehension' don't you?
Then explain these portions to us.

If the above colored is what you lot want to use to nullify first fruits, if from it you conclude Hagin condemned it, why then doesn't it apply To tithing Hagin wrote about? You remember Hagin said some of his brethren brought the cotton they farmed as tithes, did Hagin send them away? What if they brought cash?

If firstruits were not controversial, and you work in a barber shop, and Hagin wrote the above bold, rrom your angle of reasoning, how do you intend giving your firstruits?Your clippers or the cut hair?

For the last time, Hagin was using the above colored to say those preachers who claim to be priests and that firstfruits belong to them, that was the technicalities. It however is not the center point of the book, why you guys are carrying it on the head is bewildering.

Candour:
If you believe that he didn't condemn it but you DO NOT DENY that he said First fruits has nothing to do with money and has nothing to do with support for ministers, i would ask how you now do your first fruits giving? If you agree that first fruits has NOTHING to do with money, what then makes up first fruits today?

I give in cash terms because I can't give my job to church

vooks:
You are hopelessly obtuse

Thanks

^^
So, Hagin condemned firstfruits giving? Yes?

Ok, I get the post now... you want me to do what exactly? I simply told you the one who gives to someone who can't pay, that the verse said God will pay on behalf of the person who could not pay. I did not say there will be no interest from God. I found the with interest part laughable sef, because it was strange to me

I never experienced such in my church, we are encouraged to give those who don't have, our stuffs we don't use anymore, shoes, clothes or give them cash.

Nannymcphee, can you make your post clearer, ie the quotes. I ignored the firstfruits question because I have treated it. Hagin did not condemned firstfruits, he condemned preachers using it to get money in the guise that they are priest today. Notice he said "and the support of ministers"

As for monetary giving, it's been said iver and over, since if for example I sell tyres, should I take tyre equivalent of my firstfruits to church? But if you feel He condemned it in its entirety, then fine.

LambanoPeace:
Some people are too hypocritical. What is wrong in wearing a $2 cloth? Later they would complain when a millionaire Pastor owns a Bentley. Oh, of course they are pastors and should be on cheap cars and while they eg lobeez a millionaire should be in Bentley.

Some people stupidity amazes immortals.

Forget these guys abeg. Double standard hypocritical brood of vipers. Nattering sods of negativity. Not only incompetent in mathematics, some are dyslexic and morally bankrupt

Lobeez:
Wow! what a story!
You got 50k clothing items for just 3k? That's appropriately $2 for each , I wouldn't wear them if I were you. Which kain 'bend down select' you buy those okirika?
So with all these tithe blessing noise you've been making, this is the story you come up with? SMH
I'm sorry kid but you are probably living way below average and you are yet to taste 'prosperity'.
I'm a millionaire so trust me I know what I'm saying

Some folks obviously have comprehension and mathematical problems. You are a millionaire! Dear Lord Jesus!

You lot are hard to please. If I wear an expensive suit like 520k or so, you lot would complain, If I wear N250 shirt, una go complain, if I don't wear, you still will. Now, you are a millionaire, thank God. If I had said so, I'd have been boasting like your fellow band of misfits like to say.

If I had said "I got 9 clothing items for 800, 000k, your ilks would:

1. Call me a liar
2. Call me proud and boastful
3. Call me extravagant and that poor folks are everywhere
4. Etc

You would even say "Jesus was poor, he wore clothes Herod dashed him" "Paul bla bla bla" "Wofist are bla bla bla, they are not contended at all"
For eg a pastor bought a dog for$16, 000, alot of you guys came here and cried foul, as if you will tell him how to spend his money, of course the idea you lot has was that he uses church funds, if he has a dog of $2, you lot would still call him poor, and cheap. You just called yourself a millionaire, yet ... let me just be quiet.

I said I got clothing items worth 50k for 3k (miscellaneous expenses) . You folks said

1. Cheap
2. Okirika
3 etc

If I had said "I got 9 clothing items for 1000" you hypocrites would bellow. See you saying you wont wear a $2 cloth, if a pastor had said it, you'd run here open a thread and start typing rubbish.

Let Your Faith Prevail · Friday, October 24th

For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith (1 John 5:4).

There’s so much negative information in the world today, and this has instilled fear in the hearts of those who aren’t rooted and grounded in the Word. The Lord Jesus referred to this in Luke 21:25-26 when He described some of the signs of the end of the age. He said, "…there shall be …distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth…." In Luke 18:8, He asked a thought-provoking question, "…when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?"

You’re to stand your ground in faith, irrespective of the challenges and hardships in the world. Refuse to give up or give in to the pressures of life. The Word says in Ephesians 6:13-16, "…having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked."

With your shield of faith, you have the inherent ability to completely neutralize all (not some) of the fiery darts of the enemy. When he throws the dart of fear at you, declare, "I refuse to fear, because the greater One lives in me!" If it’s the dart of sickness, say, "I refuse to be sick; my body is the temple of the Holy Spirit!"You can train your faith to accomplish anything.

In the area of your finances for instance, you can watch yourself grow from one level to another. Imagine if in acting your faith, you said you would receive a certain sum of money within a week, but you ended up receiving it after one month; don’t feel bad. Instead, say, "I’ll get it right next time." Then give more attention to studying and meditating on the Word, and act your faith at every opportunity. That’s how you train your faith to grow and accomplish bigger things.

This isn’t only applicable to your finances, but to every area of life. You can train your faith with the Word to prevail against all odds and adversities of life.

Prayer...
 Dear Lord, thank you for my faith is the victory that overcomes the world. As I demonstrate my faith today, circumstances bow to me; obstacles are eliminated, and I walk in supernatural success and prosperity. I exercise dominion over sickness, poverty, disease, failure, and the elements of this world, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study: 
1 John 5:4; For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

Proverbs 18:21; Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.

Mark 11:23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.

1 year Bible reading plan: 1 timothy 6:1-21 Jeremiah 15-16
2 year Bible reading plan : Hebrews 12:1-13 Ezekiel 23

WinsomeX:
I am still pleading with you to take it easy with the vulgar languages because they destabilize one spirit and that's what causes long vacations from Nairaland. Theological discussions are not for boys who resort to cheap words to defend their position rather well reasoned arguments.

And let's not forget what brought us this far, I mean let's not be distracted from the first point made: the video that was posted by nora544 is very relevant to this thread. It might actually be the needle that always breaks the camel's back each time though. But shouldn't the camel go and find out what his back is made up of, since it takes only a needle to break it?

Everyone is a boy to you the moment they sting you with the truth of a matter. You are so certifiable.

Goshen360:
So you cheap like this?

If I send you some $$$ now, na tithe you go go carry am pay instead make you buy better cloth for body or shop better food. Ol boy, you dey fall hands o. So because you dey pay tithe na eim make way for 3k trousers instead of 40k? Chei, see as you dey expose yourself. One would think your paying tithe will bring blessings and increase you so you can efen pay cash down 50k.

Now i am beyond doubt, you surely have reading and comprehension problems. Go back and read my posts again.

But me I no dey boast o but I don buy brand new car, tear rubber without paying tithe and I have good job in the State and God is gracious to me

NOw it's boasting, one of you band mate asked for my stories i obliged him, you call it boasting. See how hard it is to please you guys? Hagin wrote about whether preachers should preach you must only give to be blessed of God? Maybe you should read what he said there, and stop monkeying around.

.....I can't boast or take credit for it boy!!! Learn from this apostle of God's unmerited and underserved favour...boy I'm telling you mehn.

with the way you are going and you constant and legendary dishonesty, you may be going in for a huge surprise, give time time.

Goshen360:
Abeg keep quiet if you can't answer this question. Do I need to teach you that Jesus CAME TO SHOW A NEW WAY.......to us as against the Jewish way of life? Allow Emeka to answer the kweshun please. No make me explode o....

yet he paid tax, did Jewish traditions, washed himself as they did, but he did not tithe rather he asked the real jews (pharisees) to. Weldone o

brocab:
Could you tell us your stories" with the blessings you had received, over the years of ministry. Could you share with us about your financial blessings. Do all tithers live rich, or is it just those few Thanks I cant wait to hear your story..

You could not (not did not) belive Hagin in writting, how would you me?

Yesterday, for example, i got 6 shirts 3 trousers that'd have cost 40-50k for just 3k!


Yes, 3k. Unbelivable right? #LessExpenses . God knows i use my personal cash for cell ministry and tithes, etc

abeeeegi, time for morning prayers jare

nlMediator:
Pray, what is vulgar about my language? Your thread is foolish and I don't know how saying so means I'm using vulgar language. And you're the one to teach any person about decent use of language? Only this week alone, you're calling people 'WOF brood of vipers who litter the Lagos/Ibadan expressway.' Wow, sounds like choir boy language. You may not have noticed it, but hardly anybody uses vulgar language in describing others here more than you and your friends.

And you need to learn when people are using humor and figurative expressions. Funny you took my mention of the word 'sanity' literally when it was obvious I was joking. Or did you miss the exclamation mark there? I guess, very soon you'll harp on my reference to popularity in those messages and accuse me of vanity. Chei! You have a point though: one way to maintain my sanity is to do my best to avoid engaging in conversations with you and your co-travelers here.

Oh, and saying your foolish thread mildly affected one person (who continues to worship at a WOF church as we write) is a pathetic Delusional claim.

Fixed

the bold got me cracking