₦airaland Forum

PastorKun: Abag sharrap there, do you know how many people have lost their lives after they attended CE's (evil) healing school and they were made to stop taking drugs in exercising "faith" that they had been healed Examples abound even amongst NL members.

DrummaBoy: This will be a very difficult question to answer to you knowing what your position is already.

Your Pastor had answered that question in a stormy meeting he had with members of your church in the UK earlier this year, who were suspected of dissenting. So who am I to dare say anything to the contrary?

DrummaBoy: One day, many years ago, I was reading Acts 15, the place were the apostles sent letters to the church in Antioch to tell them that they need listen to the Judaizers about circumcision. They should follow a certain minimum and they were OK. scripture records somewhere there that the people were happy. I could see relief too in that passage, the very thing Candour is describing here. Acts 15:30-31 - " ... and when they had gathered the multitudes together, they delivered the epistle: which when they had read, they rejoiced for the consolation". God knows how much more he wants his people to rejoice over, which church leaders prefer to bind people up in misery with.

One of the biggest disservice church leaders can do to a flock is, in their bid to protect the flock, to then begin to list out dos and donts for them. It leads to bondage. When eventually truth is pointed out, relief and joy comes.

Should God's people not have a right to relief, joy and freedom all the time? Should churches bind up people in a bid to protect them? Is God not sufficient to save and keep safe till the end?

Forgive my Lamentations. I cannot help it sometimes.

Syncan: Chai...there is god God o.

Syncan: Lol, I think you also "did not read and understand very well" like me.

Rich4god: Guess you didnt read the previous posts thats why you are saying he is making it up...

Rich4god: How can he be making it up... You didnt read the part where someone said his mother refused taking pills for her high BP or you dont knw of JW that dont take blood transfusion even at the point of death...

alentyno: From what av deduced so far not just from what the op but the confirmation of alex and candour above makes me wonder why the catholic church is so so so criticized by pentecostals
Imagine telling someone it Is a sin to take pills...smh
No wonder the devil is succeedingly converting many people to atheism. There is just so much division in christianity!

Syncan: Hmmm, You praised Drummaboy for raising concern that frosbel's thought was "evolving" and not "rooted", yet you come to the defense of a whole church by playing the "evolving" card. I think there's a name for such behaviour, can someone remind me please?


Anyway, make frosbel finish first.

nora544: [size=20pt]The pentecost are more guilty than the roman catholics. [/size]

I read about not going to the hospital, that is so dangerous and every year some kids die because their pentecost parents didnot go to the hospital with them. I never hear this here in europa that when you are ill you should only pray and when your prayer not working because you are still ill than you are a siner sorry but this has nothing to do that you are a good christian.
God give us the brain that we can search for help for every illness, did you know that we have many hospitals here in europa who starts from the catholic church.
I know from a pentecost pastor he told a pregnat woman that she shouldnot go to the hospital for a cesarian because there is no need and she should come in the church and deliver in the church, after 3 days of pain the pastor brought her to the hospital and than is was to late for her and the child, when you tell me now that this is a real christian sorry that is not tru.

pastors are semi Gods in nigeria and that is the problems and every church has her own doctrin what has nothing to do with the bible.

Orikinla: I have promoted Yookos professionally and I am happy that it is Africa's social network site. But Christ Embassy must prove that it is a true Christian church beyond the media hype. Because, I have seen strange cases of neglected members of the church.
The church that is happy to collect offerings and tithes should also be happy to help and support their members in need as Jesus Christ clearly preached and practiced and written in Matthew 7 and 25. But is it not strange that Christ Embassy could not provide temporary accommodation for a member who eventually found a kind Muslim elder to accommodate her in Lagos. And another member who is ill complains that none of the members of the church is coming to help him even though they know that he has just started work and is yet to be paid.
When a member of Christ Embassy cannot find any fellow member of the church to accommodate whilst she was on holidays in Lagos and only an elderly Muslim man allowed her to stay with his family, then something is definitely wrong with the church.

nora544: I know since a long time that this new churches are fake churches and that this pasors only want that their business is growing that is all.

I hear it from all other churches also if it is the pastor with his 4 jets or daddy go all are the same no one is better.

all are 419 and take money out from their brainwashed followers to enrich themself.

what is with the pentecost pastor who told his followers that he can heal ebola! because an other pentecost pastor heal ebola many years before, sorry all this pentecost pastors are a disgrace for a real christian!

Image123: Wow, just wow. Mark is going to say something other than tithe? i'm happy to read this, truly happy.

PastorKun: Common sense would dictate that we are talking about the Church founded by Christ. But then again, common sense is not common.

Image123: Is the tithe i give God's tithe?

Image123: What is income?

PastorKun: Catholic Church history only started in the fourth century AD, the real church history started in the first century AD.

Joshthefirst: I used to stay at naraguta block b before.

That's all I can say Shaa.

JesusisLord85: Confusion. Tgirl, when I used to frequent this place a year ago, I though Obadiah, Most High and I had free'd you from this oyinbo delusion.
You are of the House of Israel. Flee from these blind guides.

Secondly, you are a woman and are not permitted to teach men. But this oyinbo religion is based on rebellion.

Shalom

Bidam: You a josite? We plenty be that.

Bidam: Bro...different strokes for different folks.I also did got saved in rhema campus felowship i unijos and m experience is in far contrast to the OP.I knew Rev.George adegboye and i have sat under his teachings, then people call him the bible encyclopedia because he is able to commit alot of scriptural translations to memory and reel them with such ease and insights that you will envy.If i am to go by his teachings and the pastor i was priviledge to be under during my university days i will disagree with the Op on the tongue issue.infact i received the baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues when i was taught about it in the bible and hands were laid on me.,My tongues were loosed and i began to utter a language i don't understand supernaturally as the Spirit gave me utterance..Nobody taught me to say it as claimed by the op.

macof: Am nt saying he isn't good or good things don't find their source in him...but he is as evil as he is good.
And this is by the Bible and common life experiences

macof: Lol ur god isn't responsible for evil ehn?? But he is responsible for good

honeric01: Yes, how did they rebel if they have no free will? then why did Jesus say "Your will be done on earth as it is in Heaven"?

Are you saying Jesus lied about that?
If its God's will that's the only will done in heaven, who then gave Satan the "will" to sin?
All through the bible, has any Angel taken any decision different from that which was given by God to the angel?

Now, if Angels have will, where then did sin come from and who created the "sinful" will?

Oduduwaboy: Ok. i don hear!
I recognize its not easy not to believe in a 'god' in this sometimes lonely world. I still believe Emperor Constantine to be one of most visionary leaders of all time. He legalised christianity by converting into it and thus began the march of 'Western' civilization .

OLAADEGBU: Ok. Address the OP's post instead of prevaricating, evading, eluding, avoiding, shuffling, dodging and sidestepping the issues.