₦airaland Forum

larrymoore: it is like u ar too old here to know d difference?

Zikkyy: Nobody mentioned God here. I was responding to the idea of joagbaje calling people sharing their views/opinions here agents of satan. maybe he is telling us that the hundreds of millions (or even billion +) christians not tithing (because they don't believe in it) are all agents of satan.

Alwaystrue: @Joagbaje,
It is a thing of the heart. That is why they fight tooth and nail at tithes forgetting the scripture talks about both tithes and offerings. They are only trying to find excuses not to give tithes but God has said it: Tithes AND Offerings. It is hypocrisy that makes them chose one over the other.

What did Jesus say about giving tithe, He said there are weighthier matters of the law which are love of God, justice, faithfulness, mercy (per different translation) which if you look at well are more of the Spirit of the Law but still not to neglect tithing.

The whole law is hinged on and fulfilled in love, anyone who does not have love will not even understand the law.

All they see is letters which killeth but the Spirit gives life.

Jesus knew that to give tithe right is to have the right heart and Spirit of giving. Paul confirmed it as well by trying to explain why they that sow spiritual seeds should reap material harvest referencing OT in I Cor 9:13-14.

So it is not strange that many stopped tithing as soon as they could for they never really had the right heart in the first place.

They felt forced, coerced, angry, bitter and envious...that is well displayed here.

They never believed they were giving to God so you wonder how they are able to even give offering since its still church that accepts it.

I think one even admitted once that he doesn't give as much.

Lol. It is a thing of the heart.

How many of this poor have they really helped ever since? God is not mocked!

All giving alms, tithe, offering, donations are to be given with the right heart and Spirit else it profits nothing as I Cor. 13 says.

Giving from the heart of love is key. Let's remain cheerful givers, tithing never stopped me from alms giving, helping needy, and so many other givings, on the contrary it is increasing. Thank you Lord for supply.

Zikkyy: you think it's Satan fighting the tithe fraud scheme? why would Satan fight a fraud?

Joagbaje: No rather his church should be poor preacher , poor church and produce poor saints!

Goshen360: ^ It's YOU & me that I really want discussion for. After all, you indicated your interest first. I'm still waiting for you o. I really love to do this discussion with you.

Joagbaje: Beautiful ! This is As simple as ABC. Except that the anititithers are anti offering and anti alms giving anti widow giving anti prayers! Anti Christ !

esauy: On the list of richest Nigerian Pastors is Chris Oyakhilome of the Believers' Loveworld Ministries, popularly known as Christ Embassy.

His estimated net worth is between US$30 million – US$50 million.

In 2010, the charismatic preacher was at the centre of a US$35 million money laundering case in which he was accused of siphoning funds from his church to foreign banks.

Pastor Chris pleaded no wrongdoing and the case was eventually dismissed.

His church, Christ Embassy, boasts more than 40,000 members, several of whom are successful business executives and politicians.

Oyakhilome's diversified interests include newspapers, magazines, a local television station, a record label, satellite TV, hotels and extensive real estate. His Loveworld TV Network is the first Christian network to broadcast from Africa to the rest of the world on a 24 hour basis.

Pastor Kun: ^^^

Is it that no tither or tithe collector is sure enough of this tithe doctrine to boldly come out and discuss the subject matter in a organised manner

Oyinprince: i know,but ive nt found any CE church since i resumed skul in kwara lst week.I only av 2 copies of d msg 'Jesus' 4 d global gift givin.

Image123: Why would mark be using scare tactics with that face he put there na. Why? oh WHY?
BTW, how does drumboy hope to put order to lawlessness with rabid fellows like kunle and frosb on the loose? At least, thank God frosb is choosing to avoid reading so that he does not mistakenly bite himself or something like that(sorry, i've forgotten how he explained himself)

Joagbaje: God don dey answer prayer for Nairaland o.

Mark Miwerds: I nominate DrummaBoy as Moderator of the Discussion, for reasons that should be obvious.

It is clear that he has a clear understanding of how to moderate such discussions.
His reasoning for initiating the discussion is not for a theological war, but for theological understanding.


In all our getting, we should endeavor to get understanding.

frosbel: Nope , never was a JW and not a Pentecostal either.

Simply a believer in the Messiah Jesus.

Oyinprince: i wish, i was in lagos. i mite nt participate in sum of the activities. Well, hopin to watch d videos

frosbel: and you are a Pastor ? SMH.

I am sorry the Spirit of GOD will never lead his beloved children into error. Check up mate and examine if you are still in the faith, you propagate error left , right and center.

What shocks me the most is how gullible followers tag along without putting their grey matter to use as designed.

Candour: You don't have to reverse simply because you want to justify an associate. It portrays you as a double minded man very unstable in all his ways

Circumcision was Abraham's part of the Covenant. Christ coming, death and resurrection has absolved me of all requirements to access the covenant. All i need do is believe the gospel and i am automatically a bonafide member of God's family. The holy spirit then circumcises my heart.

CIRCUMCISION OF THE FLESH IS DONE AWAY WITH, IRRELEVANT, NAILED TO THE CROSS

Do you want to hear the salvation message afresh?

But since you feel its a lie. It is OK. It does not
change anything anyway. You will not accept even the
ones written bodly for you to see. So no biggie.