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swtchicgurl: [b]Birds of a feather, flock together!!!

Just listen to yourselves! And one of you dare say the 'spirit' is one....pathetic!

No true Man of God will force anybody, whether rich or poor to pay tithe! You all keep screaming pastors, pastors, pastors! some of which are not called by God and you suddenly categorise all men of God under as thieves? Be careful not to bring the judgement of God upon yourselves!

When the widow in Luke 21:1-4,



gave all she had, was she forced? she gave based on the level of her faith! and that's exactly how we are expected to operate. but remember if your faith doesn't not support tithing, be ready to take responsibility for the consequences! also remember, faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God....so, pay deep attention to the Word of God and let your faith grow!

In as much as God will not force any man to do anything, no true Man of God will, he can only counsel and encourage.

Everyone is expected to pay tithe of everything! rich, poor, tall, short, president, gateman, whoever! and then, tithe goes to 'levites' which are modern day 'church workers' as the Bible admits that 'the Lord is their inheritance'. so, if no one pays tithe, how will the 'levites' feed? Also, the church can use these funds to help the poor and needy in the midst and that was what the early apostles did in Acts.

Giving to the church or work, either by tithe, offering, freewill offering, firstfruit offering, etc... is basic Kingdom principle and the wise stick to them.

I have already said it that, work according to the level of your faith but be ready to take responsibilty![/b]

*Standing Ovation

*round of applause

#Twale

Goshen360: The Spirit is in deed one. I just thought of same thing and almost start the same thread.

You see someone in need, lack, struggling to make it and survive etc, these pastors tell them to sow seed for 'point of contact' breakthrough.

Why do these pastors feast on people's problem and predicament to make money out of them. You see a widow, orphan etc struggling to pay tuition and they tell them to tithe so that God can then take them out of such conditions.

They make God look like babalawo in deed.

God is watching o.

Why am I not surprised?

Vultures of same bald head feast together- Mungo Park (1785)

Infoscope abeg shift for me...me ma I wan watch aw the discussion go be!

*carefully following this thread!

Bidam: such a shame. Your arrogance concerning scriptures

You are saying the above like you just met Goshen?

He is a veteran in what you described him as, but I like to think he does wanna learn. I pray for him, you shd too

OLAADEGBU: Is this a tactical withdrawal or what?

No, He means "Let me go and think of frivolous things that would make Ola repeat answers evn into the 10th page"

nlMediator: OK, so only the old saints are the redeemed, not us? How do you reconcile that with what you wrote yesterday in post # 10 or so: "by his blood he paid the price of redemption of man after man fell to Satan through adaam". Was it only the old saints that fell to satan through Adam?

And how do you reconcile that quote with your statement now that what Jesus purchased was our debt, not us?

Even more, you contradict the original message here which clearly says in quoting Revelations that christians are what was purchased, not debt.

Finally, whether it is debt or the debtor that was purchased, how do you describe that as a new or fresh purchase, as opposed to old-fashioned redemption or buy-back? If I pay a debt you're owing to GTB, can I describe it as a new purchase? Why can't I say I redeemed your debt?

SMH

Fellowship With Wisdom · Tuesday, October 8th ·

Pastor Anita

Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. Exalt her, and she shall promote thee: she shall bring thee to honour, when thou dost embrace her (Proverbs 4:7-.


The Word of God is the wisdom of God. The way to fellowship with wisdom is to fellowship with the Word. When the Scripture says to get wisdom, you’re actually being directed to the Word. Wisdom is the principal thing; it’s what you need to be successful in life. Now you can better appreciate why, of all things in life that Solomon could have asked for, when God visited him, he asked for wisdom (2 Chronicles 1:10- 12). He knew that with wisdom, he had it made.

Proverbs 4:8-10 (MSG) beautifully describes some of the awesome benefits of fellowshipping with wisdom; it says, "Throw your arms around her—believe me, you won’t regret it; never let her go—she’ll make your life glorious. She’ll garland your life with grace, and festoon your days with beauty…it will add years to your life." The wisdom of God will promote you, bring you to honour, and give you the distinguishing edge in life. This was what happened with Solomon after he asked God for wisdom. God, along with wisdom, gave him riches, wealth, and honour beyond any king that ever lived on the face of the earth (2 Chronicles 1:12).

Your success isn’t in any government, country of residence or profession. Your success in life is determined by how much of God’s Word you know and put to work. Acting on the Word is functioning in divine wisdom. That wisdom directs you profitably in all things, and grants you insight into reality. The Bible says, Christ has been made unto us wisdom from God (1 Corinthians 1:30); all you have to do is fellowship with wisdom.

Confession  

The wisdom of God is at work in me today! It’s heard in my voice and seen in my actions! It propels me to function with divine insight into God’s plan and destiny for me, whilst dealing excellently in all my affairs, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

f u r t h e r s t u d y: Proverbs 4:5-9

Daily Scripture Reading

1 Year Reading Plan : Colossians 1:24-2:1-5 Isaiah 27-28

2 Year Reading Plan : John 4:30-42 1 Kings 14

Ubenedictus: if jesus bought us so he can give us to his father, who sold us to Jesus? Who did Jesus purchase us from? Who did he pay the price to in the ''marketplace''?

Scroll up! I've answered this up thr

nlMediator: ^^

Thank you very much. Your comments are quite helpful. But they leave some questions unanswered or raise new ones. For instance, you describe the battle described in Colossians and Ephesians as redemption. For there to be redemption, somebody or something has to be redeemed. So, who was redeemed in this battle of redemption, since you state it was not the christian that was [the] redeemed?

Matthew 27:52-53
"and the graves were opened; and many bodies of
the saints which slept arose, and came out of the
graves after his resurrection, and went into the
holy city, and appeared unto many."

Those righteous folks of old held by the devil...those in Abraham's Bosom ("Bosom of Abraham" refers to the place of comfort in sheol (Greek: hades) where the Jews said the righteous dead awaited Judgment Day)....
My Jesus freed them all, he REDEEMED them during/after the battle in Hell. They are the redeemed!

Also, you note that Jesus purchased us from God and gave us back to God. Is that a correct understanding of your view?

He purchased the debt we owe God, then we became his...now that we are His, He can do whatever He pleases to do with us...He then chose to reconciled us to God. Hallelujah!

" God was in Christ,reconciling the world unto Himself, NOT IMPUTING THEIR TREASPASSES UNTO THEM,and hath committed to us the word of reconciliation"( 2Cor.5:19).

Taking aside the circuitous nature of this transaction, do you realize that if we're indebted to God and Jesus purchased us from God, that is redemption, a buy-back? Which contradicts the idea of a new purchase. Something is still not adding up.

Jesus purchased the debt! God wasn't selling us na! Buying up a debt is different from buying the debtor.

I hope you get it now...pls do

nlMediator: Why do I have to wait till Heaven to get an answer that you and others can provide today? Perhaps, my questions are not clear, so I want to present them this way:

1. Was the christian redeemed or not?

The Christian is NOT the reedemed, he is the fruit of Christ's redemption work. We are the fruit of the redemption work because the bible said in Eph 4v8

King James Bible
Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.

Jesus led captivity captive...he took all of them in chains, making a show of them, disgracing them ; which is expressive of Christ's
conquests and triumph over sin, Satan, the world,
death, and the grave; and indeed, every spiritual
enemy of His and his people, especially the devil, who
leads men captive at his will, and is therefore called
captivity, and his principalities and powers, whom
Christ has spoiled and triumphed over; the allusion is
to the public triumphs of the Romans, in which
captives were led in chains, and exposed to open view

It was after the redemption, after the whole work, that he ascended to make a place for us at God's right hand, that is what we mean by Christians are fruit of Christ redemption work
. We came due to those works

2. If yes, from whom was he redeemed - God or satan?

Like I said above, he is not the redeemed..
He was freed from the clutches of sin. From all that sin inputed in him
(He was delivered from sin’s dominion) through His (Jesus) resurrection life.

3. Was the christian purchased or not?

He was..
He was purchased...His debt to God was bought by Jesus. Jesus paid with his blood

4. If yes, from whom was he purchased - God or satan?

His debt to God was purchased by Jesus

We already know the price (the blood of Jesus). So, some clear answers to the above would be greatly appreciated.

You have them now

Cheers

Kabieosi: [img]http://4.bp..com/-wUQr64Rlz_M/T7Ab5zGqbxI/AAAAAAAABKQ/A5679p9HR8Y/s180/idi-amin-laughing.gif[/img]

Dnt worry bro, I and Goshen are buddies! We've come along way

Tho he accuses me of being same as Joagbaje...aint that funny?

Goshen360: All you have to do is read down the chapter. Jesus further explained what he meant using the same line - "Haven't you heard I said I was going to prepare a place for you"? There's no beef. It's simply the context! Also, you can use Greek syntax or concordance, rooms and dwelling place is not just a place with entrance and exit location.

First time av ever seen your post appear correct in line with scriptures!

My prayers are already yielding results.
I started praying for you when I perceived you have an honest desire for scriptural interpretation unlike some others who don't study scriptures and ALWAYS try to understand the bible by their senses.

No hidden agenda here, but I do pray for u


Hallelujah

OP, Christ is a person, and a place


Let me make this brief!

Christ is a place

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new
creature: old things are passed away; behold, all
things are become new

In John 14:2-3 Jesus said “In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.”


Many misinterpret this portion of Scripture to mean
that when someone gives his life to Christ or gets born again, God starts building a mansion for him (or her) in heaven.

That’s not true. In the verse above, Jesus wasn’t talking about heaven. He was referring to our place in Christ.

There’re no mansions being built in heaven for
anybody. (I didn't say there aint mansions in Heaven, I said BEING BUILT). The Bible says ALL the works in heaven and in the earth were finished from the foundations of the world (Hebrews 4:3).

The angels aren’t building structures in heaven.
Heaven is a beautiful place, and it’s already been
built perfectly from the beginning of Creation.

[size=16pt] The place Jesus went to prepare for us is our place in the right hand of the Father, where we now sit with Him in the heavenly realms, far above all
principalities and powers. That place is also called
Christ. [/size]

*can somebody shout Hallelujah!

So, not only is Christ a Person, He’s also a place.
That’s what the Apostle Paul alludes to in our opening
scripture. We are in Christ.
We’ve been made to sit together with Him in heavenly
places (Ephesians 2:6); that the place Jesus went to prepare for us and we’re there now. You came into Christ when you were born again; it’s a heavenly realm called Zion, the city of the living God. That’s the city of our habitation:

Hebrews 12:22
“But ye are come unto mount Zion, and unto the city
of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an
innumerable company of angels”

In Christ there’s no sin, sickness, disease, failure,
poverty, defeat, weakness or death; all you have is
health, joy peace, success, strength, prosperity,
beauty and life forevermore! That’s your place of
inheritance; it’s the place of divine authority and
power, where you reign and rule over satan and the
cohorts of darkness.


So when you say “I’m in Christ,” you ought to understand the import of that statement, for it
means that’s where you live; your address is Christ!
Therefore, view the world from there.

You can make this declaration in Prayer:
Dear Father, I thank you, in the Name of Jesus, for
raising me up and making me to sit together in
heavenly places in Christ! Not only does Christ live in
me, I’m in Christ, and I function from the heavenly
realms of glory, as the heavenly man in Christ.


Hallelujah

*Kabashing already

nlMediator: It seems to me like you did not read the original post. What you described above is redemption. The Op says christians are not redeemed. There was a purchase after redemption, and that's where christians belong. Nobody so far has been able to provide even a decent explanation of this second transaction. For it to be clear, we need to know who the parties to this transaction are. You can't have a purchase without a seller and purchaser.

The OP didn't say the above in bold...go and read the post again...He said

"Observe that the new creation is not the redeemed; [size=16pt] he’s the fruit of Christ’s redemptive work on the Cross."
[/size]

Where did you see a second transaction in the OP? Even after you saw this?

"The word, "redeemed" is wrongly translated here (Rev 5v9) ; it’s from the Greek, ‘agorazo,’ which means to go to the market and make a purchase; to buy something as a
gift to give to someone. [size=16pt] It’s not a buy-back, as is the case with "lutrōsis," but a fresh purchase. [/size] Christ purchased us with His blood, and gave us as gifts to God. "



I told you you just wanna argue

nlMediator: Did you read the original post. It's the one that uses the word "purchase" so you're querrying the issue of who he purchased us from and asking if we were ever put up for sale makes me wonder if you are following this topic at all. Second, you suggest that Jesus redeemed us from God, not satan? Even if for the sake of argument we accept that as truth, where does the fresh purchase that the Op spoke of come in? So, after paying the price to redeem us, he paid another price to purchase us afresh? And purchased us from whom this time? These are simple questions and I'm surprised I cannot get a coherent answer.

You obviously wanna argue...if you still don't get it, ask God for the holy spirit to aid you, or you wait when we get to heaven.

The Infallible Manual For Success · Monday, October 7th ·

Pastor Chris

And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified (Acts 20:32).


Joshua 1:8 unveils God’s tested and guaranteed recipe for unending success: "This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success."

There’re several books and teachings on success, that may be helpful on a temporary and earthly basis, but devoid of spiritual insight. No wonder, those who feed on them fail sooner or later for their principles were based on human wisdom. Only God’s Word can make you a true success.

You need the Holy Spirit, the Author of life Himself, to take you through His Word, and help you be successful in life. Psalm 39:5, says "…verily, every man at his best state is altogether vanity." Human wisdom or expertise is not enough to put you over in life. Embrace the wisdom of God. Proverbs 4:7 says, "Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom…"; and wisdom is the Word of God.

The world’s economies are in shambles today in spite of the great work of the best economists and financial teachers of the world. All the economic theories and postulations are crumbling, but God’s Word gives us hope and wisdom. God has given us His Word to teach us how to live a joyous, successful, vibrant, and prosperous life.

Everything you’d ever need for a successful life is wrapped up in the Word; continually feed the Word into your spirit! It’s the infallible manual for a successful, victorious and prosperous life.

Prayer  

Dear Father, I thank you for your Word that’s building me up, and by which I live every day in victory, and prosperity. As I meditate on your Word today, my success and progress are manifested in all things, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

f u r t h e r s t u d y: Matthew 7:24-27; 1 Timothy 4:15

Daily Scripture Reading

1 Year Reading Plan : Colossians 1:1-23, Isaiah 25-26

2 Year Reading Plan : John 4:19-29, 1 Kings 13

Psl 49
7 None of them can by any means redeem [either himself or] his brother,[size=16pt] nor give to God a ransom for him[/size]—
8 For the ransom of a life is too costly, and [the price one can pay] can never suffice—



Jesus paid our debt...he paid it all the debt we owe God due to Adam's err,


the question u should ask is Who were we indebted to or what was it Jesus paid for? not who he purchased us from...were we put up for sale before?

Matthew briggs: People of the lord praaaaaise the lord. Around 3 years ago I was not a regular tither, in fact I stopped tithing, it was not funny at all. Financial scarcity dealt with me. Menh that period was very horrible for me.

After a personal encounter with God's word, I understood the immense blessing that comes with tithing. I discovered that tithing does not only save me from financial devourers but ensures that the windows of heaven is always kept open for me, for the blessings therein, to fall with out ceasing . After this revelation I became a dedicated tither. Since then the last thing I worry about is lack of money or financial scarcity.

If worse come to worse I halla baba God. I tell him.. "Sir I don do my part, oya do your own!, I know you as God wey no fit fall my hand"....my tithe gives me boldness in front of him when I go asking for his favour. He knows I will not think twice when it comes to investing in his Kingdom with whatever he blesses me with.

Tithing has transformed my life. God now knows he has a stake in my success, he therefore moves mountains to ensure I never lack.


#Matthew Briggs.

Plaaaaaaaaaaaise da Loooooord!

enyoba: hmmmmm,,,,,,,,, am not suprise at all coz [size=16pt] all these anti tithe people are all part of the end time saga that the bible has warn his church about. let him who has an ear, ear what the bible is saying to his church. END TIME TINS , [/size] may we not be found wantin in JESUS name AMEN!!!!!!!

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flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my father in heaven



Glooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooray

My testimony! Whr can I strt frm?

No devil can make me stop tithing...I will tithe till mangoes grow on orange trees

My testimony too much, can't finish documenting it.


Plaaaaaaaaaaaise da Loooooord bledren!

shdemidemi: ^^^^bro, I think we can trace this topic back to the book of Genesis. God chased mankind from the garden into darkness (eastward). The devil became the ruler of the world and from the way I see it mankind moved from one level of evil into a higher level. I believe Jesus came to restore us back into the garden ( this time spiritual Eden).

what garden?
we have come to Mount zion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem...hebrews 12v22 not a garden!

Spiritual Eden? where did u get that from? is zion same as "Spiritual Eden"? do u have scripture to back this up?

anyways sha, the point of my post is that Jesus didnt pay the devil anything. we were indebted to God.


i dey meeting now.....brb

^^
Why should you say/think/believe Jesus paid d Devil? How does that sound in your ear?
even after the bible said this in Col 2v15 NLT

15 In this way, [size=16pt] he disarmed the spiritual rulers and authorities. He shamed them publicly by his victory over them on the cross.
[/size]

Did the above look like it happened on a negotiating table? It was a War. A battle

We were in debt to God! God gave Adam authority and dominion over ALL things on earth (Genesis 1). Adam sold out to the Devil in that he obeyed the Devils instruction and thus the Devil had the authority of Adam. He had that Adamic authority and dominion over all the earth including the power over death. Adam fell and death came. Since then all man born into earth is in debt to God because of Adam.

But thank God I'm born again...thank God Jesus gave him self up...he went down to hell as a man, defeated the devil as a man, collected the Adamic authority including the power over Death also as a man. When he resurrected from death, the first thing he said
was

"ALL HAIL! " Matt 28v9...I love Jesus. No one spoke like him...he said "Hail me"!

And in verse 18 he said

Matthew 28:18 KJV
King James Version
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying , All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

That's what my Jesus did for us. He paid a high price with his blood, therefore purchasing us from our debt to him self and giving back to us not just the authority the devil stole for Adam, but also gave us the God-life through the Holyspirit. Hallelujah

Its important we know this.

Who then is a Redeemer?

The redeemer is the person who pays the ransom for the debtor. Throughout church history it has been continually accepted that Jesus is our Redeemer, though there has been widespread debate as to whom Jesus paid our debt to.

What is a Ransom?

The ransom is the price that must be paid to God for our debt. The problem, however, is that Scripture plainly says that no human being can redeem the life of another person by paying their ransom to God because only God can accomplish such a feat (Ps. 49:7-15).

So, because Jesus is both God and man, He alone is able to pay the price for our ransom through His sinless life and substitutionary death (1 Peter 1:18-19).



Pls...Jesus did not pay devil anything..For goodness sakes!
We were indebted to God and since we could never never pay back (because Scripture plainly says that no human being can redeem the life of another person by paying their ransom to God because only God can accomplish such a feat (Ps. 49:7-15).), and because He so loved the world of man he gave his son Jesus as a sacrifice to pay the price we couldn't have ever paid!

Gloooooooooray!
I dey church...be right back by 12pm

nlMediator: Quite interesting. I'll like to learn more. So, could you clarify one more thing: Who did Jesus purchase us from - who was selling us and received the purchase price?

[size=16pt] Ye are bought with a price; rather, ye were bought, namely, by Christ; and the price paid for you was his blood (see 1 Corinthians 6:20; 1 Peter 1:18, 19).[/size]


by his blood he paid the price of redemption of man after man fell to Satan through adaam

[size=16pt]

Hebrews 9:12
New International Version
He did not enter by means of the blood of goats and calves; but he entered the Most Holy Place once for all by his own blood, thus obtaining eternal redemption.

New Living Translation
With his own blood--not the blood of goats and calves-- he entered the Most Holy Place once for all time and secured our redemption forever.

English Standard Version
he entered once for all into the holy places, not by means of the blood of goats and calves but by means of his own blood, thus securing an eternal redemption. [/size]

if u dont get it, i will be back.....make i climb altar do yookos segment for church.

i hope u wanna learn and not what others are fund of doing in regards ridiculing the word of GOD

[size=32pt]

1 Corinthians 7:23

You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of human beings.

New Living Translation
God paid a high price for you, so don't be enslaved by the world.

English Standard Version
You were bought with a price; do not become slaves of men.

New American Standard Bible
You were bought with a price; do not become slaves of men.

King James Bible
Ye are bought with a price; [/b]be not ye the servants of men.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
[b]You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of men. [/size]

[size=32pt]

1 Corinthians 6:20

New International Version
you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.

New Living Translation
for God bought you with a high price. So you must honor God with your body.

English Standard Version
for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.

New American Standard Bible
For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body.

King James Bible
For ye are bought with a price: [/b]therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
[b] for you were bought at a price. Therefore glorify God in your body.

International Standard Version
because you were bought for a price. Therefore, glorify God with your bodies.

NET Bible
For you were bought at a price. Therefore glorify God with your body.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
For you have been bought with a price ; be glorifying God with your body and with your spirit, which are God's.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
You were bought for a price. So bring glory to God in the way you use your body.[/size]

No Option To The Gospel · Sunday, October 6th ·

Pastor Chris

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek (Romans 1:16).


Every child of God ought to bear the same testimony of the Gospel as Paul in the scripture above. You must be convinced that the Gospel is God’s only saving power, and be committed to its spread around the world. Let’s not act as though there’s an alternative for salvation, for there are no options: "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved" (Acts 4:12). Jesus is the only way: "Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins: And by him (Jesus) all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses" (Acts 13:38-39).

Jesus Himself said in John 14:6 (WEB), "...I am the way, the truth and the life. No man comes to the Father except through me." No wonder Paul said in 1 Corinthians 9:16, "For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me if I preach not the gospel." This is the attitude we must have towards the preaching of the Gospel.

Only through the Gospel is the righteousness of God revealed. "For therein (the Gospel) is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, the just shall live by faith" (Romans 1:17). No one can live a righteous life until he or she accepts the gospel of Christ. This is so because, only through Jesus Christ are men justified by faith, and thus have peace with God. So don’t be quiet. Preach the Word everywhere.

The message of salvation has been entrusted to you (1 Timothy 1:11); you hold the key to the salvation of many around the world, so preach it with conviction, passion, and boldness.

Prayer  

Dear Father, I thank you for your grace that’s manifested to save, heal, deliver, uplift and prosper all those who’ll embrace the glorious salvation that’s in Christ Jesus today, as the Gospel is ministered around the world. Thank you for the guidance and leading of the Spirit for us all, preaching the Word around the world today, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

f u r t h e r s t u d y: Romans 10:8-15

Daily Scripture Reading

1 Year Reading Plan : Philippians 4:4-23, Isaiah 23-24

2 Year Reading Plan : John 4:10-18, 1 Kings 12

*unfollows thread

Am not saying anything on this topic untill Goshen furnish us with his evidence that I and Jo are same

christemmbassey: so mal3:10 was b4 d law, u see y we call u ppl fraudsters/scammers/profane/filthy lucre hunters etc, u've been unmask n i must confess, U R D MOST DISHONES TITHE COLLECTOR IN NL! its a pity. I'm done with u. Just repent.

Are you blind? Or you chose not to see? Or you just wanna argue?

How many time would I have to explain Mal 3 to you?

Gombs:
Show me where it said in malachi 3v8-10 where
God said his instructions there are for the livetical
priesthood or the Law of Moses.

Go study Malachi 3
At first it talked of a promised messenger in verse
1

In verse 2 to 5 it talked about a time that will
come....a day of Change

It had nothing to do with the law of moses or the
levitical priesthood....

It spoke of the Messiah to come and the day of
Change.

Hallelujah!

Then read d rest of Malachi 3...it had nothing to
do with the Law of Moses

Mal 4v4 is not associated with the tithe in the
order of Melchizedek why bring up irrelevancies in
order to cover up?

Candour: Oh...in case you've forgotten, the thread is about tithe and offerings abi? That's what the reference is for.

Are you pretending not to know?

Help me tell Goshen shame on him

Goshen360: Keep deceiving yourself, people that don't know internet will think same person cannot be online at the same time with two different I.D. Keep deceiving yourself.

Shame on you for lying shamelessly