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am sorry,i cant make a head nor tail of post 101, just write the question here,we'd start our new page from here.thanks

Guys,you all knew i meant scared not sacred?why the fuss?. . .You are deviating from the point.nuclearboy,am still waiting for your outlined problem(s).i'd ignore your attitude,it doesnt get to me, It's part of the fun and the highlights of the topic or discussion.cheers

nuclearboy:


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Yes, I am "SACRED" of you, I am usually "SACRED" of dolts, half-educated numbskulls and social misfits with chips on their shoulders and delusions of grandeur.

Why not return to high school for a refresher course in english rather than showing the emptiness between your ears online?

there's no point being crude and obnoxious for no cogent reason(s).i simply asked you to outline your problems with pastor chris or christ embassy as the case may be,(i was just being civilized), but your reply shows and sums up your mental capability, does the words 'sacred' or 'dumbfounded' mean anything insulting?, dumbfounded means to astonish greatly,while sacred means nervousness in,or fright. . .You need not act the way you did, . . Hey,we were discussing.that's civilization.insults is just the other way around.

Nuclearboy. . . Are you sacred of asking me?. . . On our previous encounters here on nairaland,did my answers to your question seem similar to that of joagbaje's?its sure proof that you are left dumbfounded whenever i ask or answer you a question.dont worry,dont be sacred. . . Bring it on

Enigma,nuclearboy,etc. . . You guys are yet to show scriptural references to you claims,i mean give me bible quotes.and meanwhile,i'd be glad to take your questions,just outline them all.Now,when i defend mine with verses and credible points,you should reciprocate,and i'd love your responses to be short and precise, mabell,nuella,joagbaje,etc. . .You guys are inspirational,am sure some guys out here cant stand you all,because of reasons i fail to fathom.love you all

nuclearboy:
Better stop hyperventilating. Also, your qualifications are warped - business tycoons make money honestly which your dude does NOT so don't flatter yourself. Begging poor people & manipulating them are not what a tycoon does. I won't bother qualifying your other adjectives.

Barren skulls belong to those who have heads which are only decorative i.e. not used. You are a prime example of that since your understanding of Christianity is that financial gain is to be made from Christianity. That is contrary to the Word of God which is plain stating that Godliness with contentment is in itself gain.

But you could say I am wrong and show examples from Christs life on earth or even from that of His Apostles where riches became their motive or where anyone of them was Vain (Jeri-curls, specially tailored suits, fake accents) or where they rode on the backs of the poor to purchase a fleet of cars and build a "white house". How fake - the US president lives in the original "white house" so your wannabe "world ruler" also designs and names his place "white house". But the Christ he says he follows said "this world is not his kingdom". Is the servant greater than the Master, Gombilocks?

People giving Christ a bad name are every Christians' concern. But then you are not Christians but money seeking maggots, aren't you - which is why giving Christ a bad name means nothing to you.

ok. . .He's is business man,who swindle poor people. . .is this the best you could come up with?now read and think,
(1)have you heard pastor chris' 'original' voice,since this current one is fake?how could you tell its fake?you could as well say mattew ashimolowo,okotie,et al are 'fake'
(2)because he's a pastor,you'd want to see him in a singlet and pant?.(even at that,you'd still talk)and probably ride a bike to church,so that you can be happy?
(3)jeremiah had shaggy dreadlocks and dirty beards,john the baptist had the wrongest dress sense,. . Question?did that stop God's power and spirit from working in them?i dont see why jeri curl and suits should be a problem,. . .I still dey ask,IS IT YOUR MONEY?
(4)so you know what God's church should be about?. . .Try open your own church and do things God's way,and pls leave the man alone o.
(5) pls,just enumerate your problems with the man,i'd be more than pleased to help your case, as for the rest of your post,i'd just assume you wrote them wen you were hungry.

Nuclearboy. . . .You are one interesting fellow, . .Now take a deep breath,calm down,and read your gibberish post, if you are well enough,you'd see you didnt make any sense,nor suprise me, ok,lets leave it at this. . .Pastor chris is a business tycoon,he is fake,he smokes weed,he uses witchcraft,he is a vampire,he is fraudulent and a scam,he is from the illuminati sect,he is a police man,he is . . . (pls continue,i've ran out of adjectives). . . .Since you see and say the 'truth'(which of course only exist in that barren skull of yours,(no offence intended pls)),i find that rather woeful,and . . . Pls,abeg,ejo,don allah,biko,sil vous plair. . .let him be o!. . .come first?. . .Why you dey vex?. . .Is it your money? . . .Leave him and his 'perverted' things alone,is that too much to ask of you?, you just dey there dey drink panadol for another man headache.

nuclearboy:
If you all like, go to the toilet and pass concrete bricks - its no skin off anyone's nose.

Truth is Yookos is more than just over-rated; delusions of grandeur have taken over your lives.

. . .I see you are smart enough to know it's 'OUR LIVES',so,why cant you and the others here careless about that?. . .there's nothing wrong to ask questions about something you dont know about,but,why move with the crowd when you can stand out?must you say or write discrediting things about anything that doesnt agree with you reasoning?, haba,learn to ask,think,and when you are not sure. . . You just shut you mouth about that topic. . . It works for me,you should try it

nuclearboy:
If you all like, go to the toilet and pass concrete bricks - its no skin off anyone's nose.

Truth is Yookos is more than just over-rated; delusions of grandeur have taken over your lives.

. . .I see you are smart enough to know it's 'OUR LIVES',so,why cant you and the others here careless about that?. . .there's nothing wrong to ask questions about something you dont know about,but,why move with the crowd when you can stand out?must you say or write discrediting things about anything that doesnt agree with you reasoning?, haba,learn to ask,think,and when you are not sure. . . You just shut you mouth about that topic. . . It works for me,you should try it

, just so you know. . . .Its N30 for sending the sms,after that,nothing is deducted from you. . .You get the messages free. . .and you guys should go check how long it took twitter to make their first 100,000 followers. What is your problems with the site? Just sit and watch,. . .The site's is hitting more than 10million this year. . . Bloody pharisees

nuclearboy:
^^

According to Gombs above, critics are friends who tell you your faults! Yet he despises them also above?   Funny confused chap

you wish i called you lot 'critics'?. . .Well,if you can read well,you'd notice i called your like 'complainers' who'd always whine,moan,groan,squeal, and castigate other peoples progress, , You guys are too very far from critics,why?. . .Because critics say what should be done, ie give their own opinion of what they think is right. . . .Am yet to see any from your likes, so you are a blunt hater,with sorry excuses.

Haters. . . Hating annoying haters. . .if Jesus or Paul were in our time,wouldn't they use a social networking site to spread the good news?. . .Twitter was limiting pastor chris' reach to the world,by slashing pastor chris' followers,he strived to get yookos working,and all some irky imps could write here is that he's generating funds for himself.you.all could as well say the vatican sells rosaries,books,oil,etc so as to enrich the pope.i still ask o. . . .Wetin pastor Chris do una o?
instead of being happy an african ( or better still a church)achieved such feat,(including launching of satellites), you all just come around here and moan and squeal and complain, .use the time you waste here and think how you can better yourself, you should be happy he is a record breaker,3million followers in 2months,(i bet justin beiber+lady gaga+obama all combined cant achieve such in such time span),. . .You know what?keep hating,you'd soon see christ embassy mobile app,and mobile phones,and stadia and arenas,and on-the-go audio and video messages,live on your mobile, why?. . .Because one thing i know with Christ Embassy. . . That is "ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE" in JESUS' name. . . Dont worry,small time now other church would pick up the idea. . . Mark my wrtings. . . You no understand?. . . Pastor Chris is far ahead.

It's not his loss,it's theirs. . .They should be happy for God's word there. . . Sha,not to worry,christ embassy would get their own tv channel,probably via satellite. . . Same thing happened with twitter,they said the number of people following pastor chris is more of a spam,and scam,so they cut the number from 3million+ It's not his loss,it's theirs. . .They should be happy for God's word there. . . Sha,not to worry,christ embassy would get their own tv channel,probably via satellite. . . Same thing happened with twitter,they said the number of people following pastor chris is more of a spam,and scam,so they cut the number from 3million+ to about 1million,but the number grew within 2months to about 3million. . . Today christ embassy has their own 'twitter' called yookos.com,go check it out. . . Haters,i didnt expect less from you all. . SMH

It's not his loss,it's theirs. . .They should be happy for God's word there. . . Sha,not to worry,christ embassy would get their own tv channel,probably via satellite. . . Same thing happened with twitter,they said the number of people following pastor chris is more of a spam,and scam,so they cut the number from 3million+

, shay na vision 20 2020, remain 9 years o, but sha phcn dey try these days, light dey reach >12hrs a day for me area

. . .some pple here hv sworn neva 2 leave pastor chris alone. . .ike gwu nnò. . . .so people cn write he embarkd on 40days fastin? . . .if there's nothin 2 write abt him,dey wud create one?

Wonderful and inspiring testimonies.am sure one or two lives are touched and turned around.and for the folks out there who are inspired and want a turn around or a new start in life,(for romans 10:10 says "with the heart man believeth unto righteousness,but with the mouth confession is made unto salvation) could lead themself to christ by simply saying "lord God,i believe in my heart that you sent your son Jesus Christ to die for my sins,and you raised him from the dead.i invite you to be Lord of my life,and i declare that i'm a new creature in christ.Amen".
And thats all,join a bible believing church(if,possible but i strongly recommend you should join one department in the church,maybe choir),dont let go of God's word,and before long,your life would be catapulted into the greater life Christ brought us.dont say you would have to stop smoking,or i'd leave my boy/girlfriend first (because of what you do together),. . . God has never been mad at you for what you did or will do,just come to him earnestly,and you wouldnt know when you drop your dirty habits for you are a new creature 2corinth 5:17(it worked for me).though things may seem tough at first,but hold on, think it as your times of trying to walk as a baby in christ.

Wonderful and inspiring testimonies.am sure one or two lives are touched and turned around.and for the folks out there who are inspired and want a turn around or a new start in life,(for romans 10:10 says "with the heart man believeth unto righteousness,but with the mouth confession is made unto salvation) could lead themself to christ by simply saying "lord God,i believe in my heart that you sent your son Jesus Christ to die for my sins,and you raised him from the dead.i invite you to be Lord of my life,and i declare that i'm a new creature in christ.Amen".
And thats all,join a bible believing church(if,possible but i strongly recommend you should join one department in the church,maybe choir),dont let go of God's word,and before long,your life would be catapulted into the greater life Christ brought us.dont say you would have to stop smoking,or i'd leave my boy/girlfriend first (because of what you do together),. . . God has never been mad at you for what you did or will do,just come to him earnestly,and you wouldnt know when you drop your dirty habits for you are a new creature 2corinth 5:17(it worked for me).though things may seem tough at first,but hold on, think it as your times of trying to walk as a baby in christ.

Thanks alot nuella. . .i cant even start self. . .I didnt go to church for 3years and i felt good about it,i was an anglican by birth. . .and i hated churches other than anglican and catholic,i hated pentecostal churches with passion, . To cut the story short, I was a fierce critic of pastor chris,and i hated him for no cogent reason,mostly because other people were saying things about him,but now,i know better,i got to know God and his love for the world.its still the same pastor chris that made me a victor,i dont get sick, i can mould my future,i can make things happen the way i want it to,though there are tough times,but i hunger for more of God's word.an having the same challenge you are having with my parents, but now am a final year computer science student,and i know my parents and siblings think of crazy,but i frame my world with spoken words spoken fervently in the spirit, i thank God for his word in my life,honestly if people would try and know him,there wouldnt be a messed up world or country or family or business.

tolani27:
No I'm sorry but pastor chris is strange and my spirit gets so uncomfortable when I flick the channel and his face appears!
I am Saved, i'm a bible believing, Jesus loving demon binding christian. Before you start quoting scriptures about not judging him, you must also remeber the scripture 1 John 4:1 "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world."
Just because he says he is a pastor, doesnt mean the he is! This is the man who charged people to come into his church, can you imagine? The love of christ is a free gift, How dare this man charge people to come into them house of God? DISGUSTING!
Before people start talking nonsense about me judging read john 7:24!
People should also remember that it is not Pastor chris who heals but the holy spirit. So if he calls on the name of Jesus and you believe that Jesus will heal you, God is faithful and will touch your life.
I'm sorry but I do not think this guy is genuine

1.for the fact that your 'spirit' does not feel comfortable with him and because your sensory perception does not think him a geniune pastor,does not still make him a fake pastor,does it?

2.it has been said over and over,and i'd still write it to you,he didnt charge people money for anything,forget what you heard from the papers or internet,paul said "filther all you hear and take only the good ones",you heard so,and didnt try to get the truth of the matter,but you went ahead and tarnish his personality not just by thoughts,but worse still by deeds,think about it, . . And meanwhile,you should be happy that people are incredibly over willing to pay to hear God's word,cause they werent forced,were they?that should tell you something,which is,you cant say you are better thinking than all those that payed the money,or those that were willing to pay double the amount,

@ noetic i think you have a personal beef with joabaje,judging from your posts. But sha,let me clear somethings for you.
Simple logic.if a=b,and a=c therefore,b=c. . .(hope you know algebra?).now,let a=jesus,b=word,and c=joabaje(or you,or any born again). Now,john 1:14 said "and the word was made flesh and dwelth amongst us" after john 1:1 said,". . .and the word was with God,and the word was God" . . . That means a(jesus)=b(word) . . .Also 1john 4:17 says ". . .As he is so has he made us here on earth". . .That means a(jesus)=c(joabaje,you,or any born again). . .therefore by definition b(word)=c(joabaje,you or any born again). . .

this answers your two questions:
if you are born again,you are like christ ie joabje is like christ,and you are God's Word made flesh.
Now,joabaje needs christ and christ needs him,because he needs christ 2corinth 12:9-10 and christ needs not just him but all christians to take the gospel to the uttermost part of the earth mark 16:15. . .Christ is counting on us,cos without us,he has no right to the world affairs,thats why he causes changes in the world today through christians.

and never have i seen any pastor chris's miracle,thats him healing a blind man from birth and asked him the color of anything,he just at times wave his hands or any part of his body and the healed person emulate it .that color thing you wrote is from comedians jokes.

jesus was rich . . .yet for your sakes became poor,so that you through his poverty might become rich.2corinth 8:9(niv), (notice it said he became poor,that means it was his choice) he need not build a house,nor own a boat,or ass,nor horse,because of one reason. , .Hebrews 12:2. . .Who for the joy set before him endured the cross,. . .that was why he was poor,because of the glory thereafter,where his seed,(born again) would live the best eph 1:21. . .

. . .i cudnt stop laughing at some peoples sense of logic.

ok,do you want to see pastor chris wit a pair of jean trousers and t shirt?even at dat,you would still talk, i cant stop laughing at the term "carnal" which you used. If it is his hair do, people do barb low cut,mohawk,punk,etc. . .Thats their choice,i cant see why pastor chris wouldnt have his own hair do,and still cant have rest from people like you.samson,had dreadlocks,jeremiah was dirty and had shaggy hair and beards,john the baptist had the wrongest form of dress sense,and the list is endless. . .But that didnt stop God's spirit from being with them,did it? . . .Why is it because of pastor chris had a hair do of his,n you complain of carnality? Is it because of he is Nigerian?Have you ever talked of pastor okotie's own? . . .

@ noetic16. . .Please,would you outline the problems you have or think you have with pastor chris,whether his teachings or ministry,and i'd be sure glad to set you straight,scripturally. . .And i'd love you to back you claims with scripture reference. . .Thanks

@ free123. . .From your post,i can see that you dont have anything to write,why dont you get your bible,and start studying,i would strongly recommend you to start from the epistles,and pls do understand it very good.and i know God will help you if you earnestly seek him jeremiah 29:13. . .once you understand the scriptures,when you hear a man of God,you'd surely know. Please dont forget to spread the news and scriptures you've seen here,just as you did spread the wrong news before. . .thanks,at least,thats the least you should do.:-)

free123:
@Gombs
do u preach repentance in cec at all? What is salvation to u? What is seeking first the kingdom of God and its righteousness?
@all cec members
can anyone of u start a thread on the teachings of pastor chris on sin and its consequences, cos i have not heard this chris talk about sin for at most 2 minutes.
[s]Repentance which is the major thing has been relegated in this church, its prosperity, materialism all the way[/s]

Hebrews 6:1(niv) Therefore let us leave the elementary teachings about christ and go on to maturity,not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death,and of faith in God

hebrews 6:1(amp) therefore let us go on and get past the elementary stage in the teaching {and} doctrine of christ(the messiah) advancing steadily towards the completeness {and perfection that belong to spiritual maturity. . .
Try go n read the 2nd verse

now the last time i checked,pastor chris didnt write the book of hebrews. . .if he always teaches salvation and the punishment of sin every time(as you'd like it),you would still complain that he scares people with the teachings of hell.and that all he knows is judgement,hell,punishment,etc .i want you to understand something, you cant benefit from all he is teaching if at first you are not born again,thats y Jesus said, "seek ye first the kingdom of God,and his righteousness" notice it didnt say "its righteousness".so,pastor chris knows the scriptures more,as you dont seem to know anything of it.thats why when you get to a believing church,the first you are asked is "are you born again?". . .Because the glorious life christ gave us would mean nothing to you if you are not born again.so you shouldnt expect him to come and start preaching the elementary things of christ doctrine just to make you happy.

. . . Some people here wrote he preaches 'prosperity gospel'. . . Abeg,na poverty una want make him dey preach?. . .Even at that,you guys would still complain, romans 14:4 who art thou that judgest another man's servant? To his own master he standeth or falleth. . .Question,what has pastor chris done to you guys?my brain has failed to reason that o!
And miracles,if my common me can heal the sick,why would pastor chris stage his?. . . I love pastor chris's messages,if you can take time and listen to just one of any of his messages,you would know that he is not ordinary. . . And another half wit asked whether he is saved?. . .my answer is that . . .God help your case

Jenwitemi:
Are you sure the "honourable" pastor wants to be left alone? I bet he enjoys all the attention and popularity notoriety he is getting. [s]That's why he keeps coming out with more outrageous stuffs like paying entrance fees to night services. [/s]The man loves the attention

now,evn if he did raped a girl,r u now God's advocate to judge him?wont u jst careless about his matter?i wud advice u to let God do his judging business,dnt do it 4 him. . . And wots d fuss about d entrance fee?u shud b hapy dat pple would wnt 2 pay(evn double dat amount) so as 2 listen to God's word.dnt u tink he's too rich 2 cm and colect N1000 4rm hw many pple?if he wantd money or 'do busines' like people tag it here,he would hav gotten a stadium,n hp u knw dat there would still b ova flow?. . .its jst my opinion,dnt knw y evil men here would wnt 2 b d 1st 2 cast d stone.

babaearly:
You are the problem ,and people like you. If we dont have you around, we wont change our minds, we will save and enjoy our hard earned money.

bros,i'd always b arnd,and dnt change ur mind o!. . .d bible has warnd u,dnt doom urselves pls.and no mata hw high u go wit 'your hard earned money',u r bound 2 crash,n meanwhile,d money is nt yours,and yourself and your seemingly 'hard earned' effort. . . "the earth and everything on it belong to the Lord. The world and its people belong to him" Psalms 24:1CEV

And you guys call ur selves christians. . . U guys r d pharisees of Christ's time,nw i undastnd beta wot he went tru.just so dat you'd be warned,u r placing a curse on urselves wit ur mouths,thoughts or shd i say fingers.
Ecc 12:13(niv) Now all has been heard;here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments,for this is the whole [duty] of man.
14 For God will bring every deed into judgement,including every hidden thing,whether it is good or evil.
Jude 10(niv)yet these men speak abusively against whatever they do not understand;and what things they do understand by instinct,like unreasoning animals-these are things that destroy them.
11Woe to them !. . . .

Titus 3:10 but avoid foolish controversies and genealogier and arguments and quarrels about the law,because these are unprofitable and useless.10warn a divisive person once,and then warn him a second time.After that,have nothing to do with him.11you may be sure that such a man is warped and sinful;he is self-condemned.

like i wrote before,paul,and the other apostles had people like you all during their time.for me,LEAVE THOSE THAT WANT TO GIVE,TO GIVE,AND EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY,LEAVE THE PASTORS ALONE. . .its for your own good.

hey people,i was just curious and wanted to ask this question,i've noticed over the years,pastor Chris Onyhakilome have been discussed here(and all the time,it's been in terms of heavy negative writing),he has been discussed more than nigerian's president,the PDP,kidnappers,militants,etc. . .am just asking,why won't people leave him alone?

xandy84:
CAN YOU PLEASE SHOW ME WHERE IN NEW TESTAMENT THAT JESUS OR HIS FOLLOWER TALK ABOUT TITTLE. FIRST FRUIT ETC?

ephesians 4:11 and he gave some apostles;and some prophet;and some evangelist;and some pastors and teachers;
12 for the perfection of the saint,for the work of the ministry,for the edifying of the body of christ:

i want you to read hard,dont forget to notice the punctuations. . .he died and resurrecte,n he christ gave those offices as a gift to the brethen,(i know you'd still doubt,so go read the amplified version or message or. . . ),so like it or not,your pastor is a gift to you by christ,do not call christ's gift thieves.thats why you shouldn't talk of God's men like the way you do,am sure you guys succeeded in making another baby christian to get worse instead of better,because of your thoughts and idealogy.

hebrews 7:5-9(amp),go and read,study and comprehend it,esp verse 6 and 7.u c dat abraham paid tithes,and how the higher(priests,pastors,apostles,etc) blesses the lower(brethen). . . Now you'd say its tithe,go ahead and see things your way,but first fruits are your ways of specially saying to God "lord,thank you,i'd want you to have this",though God is never begging for money,he sees how you gave what you love for his cause.go study that great men in the bible did give something to receive great things of God.moses had no money on,but God asked for his rod,same with david,solomon,etc. . . Bottom line,leave people that want to give their money money as firstfruits,alone,and leave their pastors alone. Stop embarasing christ's body.

. . . Y una dey vex? . . .is it UNA MONEY?. . .kai,na wa 4 una, . .i c its nw a hobby for pple 2 cm here n critisize pastors and pple dat giv whole heartedly witout complain. . .
una dy drink panadol 4 anoda man headache,did dose givin d money eva com n complain abt it?y do u guys kip painting pastors bad?2 wot gain?dnt u fear God?. . . U shd hv askd wot do d pope does 2 feed?. . . D pastors(of christ embasy n rccg amng odas) u critise hv hundreds of thousands of brethen,do u want 2 say u r beta thinkin dan them al?corupt minded pple,why tink d money is d pastor's?dnt you see worldwide evangelism of d accused churches?do u tink d govt hv a budget 4 d money they use?do u wnt 2 c a pastor wit pant n singlet 4 u guys 2 b hapy?evn if pple wan gv pastors money or d pastor dy do busines,y e dey pain u?y dnt u gv urs a try,n lets c?, wud u guys say T.D JAKES,MATTEW ASHIMOLOWO,MYLES MONROE,etc are theives?abi na cos dem pst chris,adeboye etc dy 9ja?, no wonda,Jesu christi said "a prophet is nt recognisd in hs home twn", . .n sm1 here wrote,dat d bible reference anoda brought up did nt involve cash,ok,na cow,camel,chicken,yan,rice ,corn u wan cary go church?hw many u wan cary?evn at dat,u go say na pastor go chop all. . . Or wait o!. . .na because u hear "first fruit"?. . . PLS,LET PPLE DAT GIV DO D COMPLAININ.u dnt want 2 gv,den shup up,n continue givin ur N20 ofering so dat pastor go poor.