₦airaland Forum

ironheart:
it still boils down to principles and morals sir. If some puts money first, he will do anything possible to achieve it. But if you put your country first. You will do all within your power to see the success of your country.

I did not fault your assertion. My point is that Nigerians fault goes far beyond because of self-hate.

Other countries think of themselves first, Nigerians beg other countries and sell themselves dirt cheap.

Like people always say, there some level of corruption everywhere including Asians that used to come to Nigeria and send money home to feed their families.

They have all zoomed past Nigeria.

You can all theorize all you want.

So called run girls are girlfriend material or second wives while so called decent girls are wife materials.

None of the status is permanent in many ladies.

ironheart:
Nigerians lost it when they threw morals, and principles our the window. Without principles, there is no way anyone can grow

Ironheart,

Nigeria is not the only Country that lost morals and principles.

As much as we hate Buhari and our leaders, the richest country in the whole world elected someone even worse.

The difference is that his country, as far as he is concerned and those that voted for him,

Put their country First!

Can you say the same about Nigerians?

Yes, Nigerians pay taxes almost on a daily basis.

Even if the amount taken out PAYE is nothing compared to other African countries.

I will agree that Nigerians pay taxes anyway.

To Nigerian Police on the Roads!

In the days Nigeria was Nigeria, Military officers, Police, Lawyers Doctors and Nurses were on assignment and contract to African and Overseas countries.

No more. Most will not come back home today.

Only God knows who gave us this curse of oil in the first place.

But then, God gave us Gold, we exchanged it for mirror.

God gave us Diamond, we exchanged for champagne.

God gave us Uranium we exchanged it for plastic.

God gave us Arable land we exchanged it for daily white wheat bread.

God gave us Religion, we exchanged it for Pastor and Imam.

Since we are the most religious country on Earth, we pray before we eat, drink, sleep and wake.

Nothing to worry about today, politicians urge us to pray for beta days wey we nor go see if we kwotinu laka dis.

Thank you sir.

Where is Nigeria going to get this money from?

May be from the taxes paid, from groundnut sold, palm oil or cocoa sold.

Everyone wants free money from Niger Delta Oil income. If you do not have the opportunity to loot it dry, you want it as food and drinks and if you cannot eat or drink it, you buy French champagne, Swiss cheese, Italian pizza or American burger with the income.

While you reduce the same source of income to environmental dusk nightmare for poor fishermen and farmers.

Better still negotiate with fishermen's plights as militia and run out of the country with the money.

Stay in Canada, Italy and America and drive taxi, Uber or work as security guards and at Burger King as essential workers.

My only concern is for the talents that die there trying to save lives they could save in Nigeria.

kikero:
Hmm

Canada's budget this year is $355 billion for 24 million people.

Nigeria's budget this year is $26 billion for 200 million people.

And you expect Nigeria to give palliative of N626000 naira per person or per family?

Nigeria is a mess, but we are not up to Canada's level. Vote for governments who would make us an industrial nation, then we can talk.

To all those people cursing Nigeria up-thread...yes, we have had corrupt governments. But there is no way our government can afford to give stimulus of N626,000 naira to everyone. Not on our budget,without taking even more mega loans.

Apart from the incendiary opening statement about Niger Delta that has carried Nigeria on its back for many years;

There is nothing wrong with preparing Nigerians for a bitter pill we must swallow.

It is foolish, actually dumb to place your very existence on the future demand of people you have no control over.

What is wrong with the rest of his statement?

Sack 80% of Civil Servants
2. Ban importation of all goods and services
3 . Produce all goods and services in Nigeria
4. Effective and efficient VAT collection
5. Effective and efficient CIT collection
6. Everybody should go back to farm as part time or full time

Las Las civil servants may have to be furloughed.

I expect some people to come here and tell us about how it is worse in Nigeria. Give them visa for any of these places, they would jump and grab.

Most of us know what the problem is but too lazy to lift a finger. Most blame their problems on the same leaders they create and encourage.

Looking for the same ways to get to be leaders so that they can loot.

Even worse are those that project their inferiority complex and lack of progress at home on others only to praise low lives cerelibrities they worship.

They worship foreign tastes, countries, visas and pray to foreigners to deliver them from themselves.

And you expect them to respect you?

Make God bless those that shun everything, those that returned home, those that work hard without rewards or celebrations. As they move Africans forward, losers move us backwards.

If not Nairaland, which

Abeg park

That is why you are here!

neonly:
Definitely not nairaland

Metaphysical you are right about Obasanjo and Buhari ways.

But my point stands. Obasanjo governed with finesse and intelligence. Do not bother with what Igbo call him now. It is not surprising.

When he was in power, Igbo praised OBJ as the most detribalised Nigerian.

For good reasons too. He was the first Head of State since the end of the War to bring them out into powerful positions like Governor of Central Bank, Finance Minister with special foreign salary, into Joint Chiefs, Police and many others.

Today they say nasty things about him. We should expect that. They said worse about Fajuyi and Woke Soyinka today.

You cannot compare that to Buhari. Igbo understand Fulani and Fulani understand Igbo's mentality in their relationship. Igbo do not like Fulani but they respect them.

Yoruba are not Fulani and they take advantage of that.

Please respect MP analysis. Let me even add more, Buhari has never recovered from his overthrow by IBB and the attempt on his life in Kaduna or Kano by Boko Haram.

This is where I disagree with Metaphysical.

You can appoint an Igbo man as Chief of Staff without caving to Ohaneze. Of course there are those that will beat their chests.

But making an Igbo man Oil Minister of State did not cede power to Igbo. Remember that the Joint Chiefs refused to meet, I think Gusau as Security Chief at one point.

So if you can declaw a Chief of Staff why appoint him in the first place?

For peace sake.

Na today e start.

You don't love yourselves but you expect others to love you. Tell us which country you come from Again.

If there is a plane waiting with faulty engine that will crash killing 90% and free visas to Germany, Nigerians will tell you it is better than crossing the desert.

Germans are good Christians, ask Nigerians. They are better than Africans, they never lied that they are AfroTians!

Thank you Guys,

I really enjoyed myself.

Gregyboy, you dey try.

Never knew you are also a comedian.

wis3:
is this really your problem right now?

Since when has seizing an opportunity to bring people together been your problem?

Well, I know some people will be against this. His best candidate is his former Minister of State.

But if Buhari wants to reclaim his power, he needs to balance the power below him between Fulani, Yoruba and Igbo.

It will be foolish to expect him to change his kitchen cabinet that is more powerful than Chief of Staff or Vice President.

If not an Igbo as Chief of Staff, pick someone from Middle Belt.

PapaAdanna:
Na one small boy go d Bleep this pussy Sha

The old man know kwa

You expect 80 year old to when he has his fetish girls in in the "offices".

You are right about those bleeping her though. She is well guarded by her prisoners that report every move she makes to the husband, other wife, step children older than her. Except the trusted ones bleeping her of course.

Every woman knows how to find her mojo.

This Gregyboy is not only ignorant, he basks in fooling himself. This could have been intellectual dishonesty but that will be faltering him.

I do understand though, why he has to be engaged, they got away with this dishonesty for too long. We thought no serious scholar or pupil would believe them.

This korokorovirus eh, some rich people are going to commit suicide from loneliness and lack of opportunity to flaunt their riches openly to those worshing them.

Someone called it compulsive deprivation behavior. It can choke some people to death.

No wonder the happiest billionaires are the ones that can get lost in a crowd of average people and those that disguised their identities to mix freely.

They claimed Covid-19 cannot kill blacks.

They claimed they are covert in the blood of Jesus.

They claimed Covid-19 is the disease of the rich.

Meanwhile, Nigerians are beating their chests again that it cannot happen here

Are these stories planted by racists or by ignorant blacks to deny immediate prevention, precautions and treatment for the most vulnerable people discriminated against everywhere.

They even attack any person of goodwill that urge and pointed out what disaster it would create in Africa.

The early written records that mentionss Ife was during the early fourteenth century High Florescence Era when the well-known adventurer, historian and travelor[b] Ibn Battûta(1325–1354) them in his travelogue. Here we read (1958:409–10) that southwest of the Mâlli (Mali) kingdom lies a country called Yoûfi [Ife?] that is one of the “most considerable countries of the Soudan [governed by a] …souverain [who] is one of the[b] greatest kings.”[/b] Battûta’s description[/b] of Yoûfi as a country that “No white man can enter … because the negros will kill him before he arrives” appears to reference the ritual primacy long associated with Ife, in keeping with its important manufacturing and mercantile interests, among these advanced technologies of glass bead manufacturing, iron smelting and forging, and textile-production. Blue-green segi beads from Ife have been found as far west as Mali, Mauritania, and modern Ghana, suggesting that Battuta may well have learned of this center in the course of his travels in
https://kwekudee-tripdownmemorylane..com/2014/09/ife-people-ancient-artistic-highly_14.html?m=1

The Virginia Pastor who believe the power of God over COVID-19 has died may take his wife with him who tested positive.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/us/bishop-gerald-glenn-coronavirus.amp.html

One thing is clear from this discussion. Kokorovirus has opened the eyes of Africans that all that glitters is not gold. Branding is not reality.

The reason 70% of Africans make up the number of deaths is because their health system is not made to take care of blacks. Stop glorifying it because you got token treatment or beat the odds created against you.

Umaru Dikko once told us that If we think Nigeria is bad, we should go to America where people pick and search for food in people's garbages.

It came to pass in Nigeria.

We had a relatively good healthcare system, at least in the South. Prof. Olikoye Kuti mobilized Basic Health Services into Primary Healthcare. He and Dr. Lambo were vilified for promoting Voodoo health care because they emphasized local research and Community Health Officers trained all over the Country.

Think about it, Ebola was defeated in Nigeria, not by the best health system in the best Hospitals in Europe and America but by residual training from old school of Nigerian doctors, nurses and grassroots vigilance. Imagine?

This is what is going to defeat korunavirus before it wipes us out. Stop your complacency or self denigration. Nigerians, if you cannot help yourselves, who is going to help you?

Gregyboy, see what you reduce Benin to. They got their ass kicked by Nupe.

Nupe got their ass kicked by Oyo and pay allegiance to Ife. They sought refuge in Lagos under Oshodi Tapa.

I think your pride will be better served as Yoruba slaves. This is why you will never tell us your Yoruba name because you are not part of the Royal House that conquered you. You won't give up but keep kicking.

You even lost your case in Court. Owomika will continue to pay you token after each coronation until you find a way to kick them out. Doubt it. Too late, just pay them Homage.

Why is this lady being vilified for saying what African head of States should be worried about?

These are the same people you are going to carry your calabash to asking for aid after laundering the first million or billion your ever made in Africa, into their Countries.

You are supposed to prepare for the worst scenario and then pray that it never happens.

But we pray first and then beg the world if it happens.

A RECONSIDERATION OF THE IFE-BENIN RELATIONSHIP
Author:
Ryder, F.C.
Date published:
1965

Source:
Journal of African History Vol.6,no.1,1965,pp25-37
Subject:
BENIN
ODUDUA KINGSHIP
BENIN'S CHIEFS
Abstract:
The traditions now current among the Edo of Nigeria trace the origin of the Benin dynasty and the associated cire-perdue technique of brass-casting to Ife.

Gregyboy, I am still waiting. More hint:

Ryder - the dynasty which now rule in Binin is related by current tradition to the Yoruba complex of kingship through a common ancestor Oduduwa the founder of ife

More?

After banishing the last ruler of the first Benin dynasty, Ogiso, so the tradition runs

Waiting o

Gregyboy,

Before I do anything else, let me give you a hint:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/179645?seq=1

Gregyboy,

Why did you cut off the Ryder page: with the conquest by Fulani, Beni became absorbed into what?