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TAO11,

Abeg no kill person.

Which one be

Have you heard about the latest joke in town?? One of them said Benin got its name from Birni-Kebbi in Kebbi state. grin

In the first place, it is not only Igbo doctors that are exploring better opportunities outside the country, they should not take the brunt of the abuse here. Many Nigerians of every profession do.

It is very difficult to kill this USA invitation to doctors that are already on their path to temporary license on H visa as already clarified by State Dept. and Embassy. These visas are temporary as those of agriculture workers or computer engineers sponsored by employers.

They cannot leave for better jobs or stay over the time of visa unless they are renewed by the same or different employers.

Once your visa expires, you are on your own and have to fend for yourself and families anyway you can. So, many do odd jobs because they have become illegal and are paid anything or like their President, call immigration on them on a day before or the day they are due for payment.

Honestly, I think all workers including doctors, nurses, community health officers, and comunity workers should be well treated. Every worker wants to be adequately rewarded.

It all boils down to how much each of us wants from the same pie. What do those that allocated outrageous salaries to politicians base it on?

Productivities, needs, skills or unreliable natural resources income which price is dictated by buyers. We all blame everything on infrastructure but we refused to pay or train our engineers on these infrastructure since after Independence. We prefer to employ journeymen from overseas and call them experts in order to launder money.

So doctors, engineers, lawyers, iron workers, accountants, politicians etc lock horns on who should get more money from the same pie.

Nigeria will never develop if we compare our third world economy with USA and Britain, never with salaries in China, Russia, Sweden or Cuba.

Why are we training for USA or Britain when China, India, Russia or Cuba train for local needs?

Each of these countries have produced Nobel laureates in Sciences, what has our country produced?

Many of these families used to say they did not have enough money to send House-helps to school.

When Jakande opened schools to all regardless of status, they poured curses on Jakande for lowering educational standard instead of telling the truth.

Even their relatives or sisters are not safe. I also blame their husbands. But then, he could be accused of something else.

One of the many good features of African cultures is our closeness to our grandparents.

This Covid-19 has changed that relationship. Not out of selfishness like in others cultures that abandoned their grandparents to nursing home or in Florida.

If we cannot touch or go near them for their own safety, buy them a phone, radio, tv and visit looking through a glass or in protective gear.

It is a lonely time for grand Mac and pa.

Odeson, real story as a personal witness. The girl is just too attractive. My cousin accused her of looking for a man, not work. So why hire her?

SultanOfPuna:
This Story Faker Than Chinese Leather..

My cousin hired this hard working Househelp that was very nice to everybody. She is the type anyone would love to have around.

So what was her crime for my cousin to beat the heck out of her?

Too good. She takes good care of her children and husband.

What do you want sir?
You want a drink sir?
You want water or juice sir?

When my cousin was not at home, she took good care of the children and the husband very well.

What do you want to eat sir?
Do you want plain stew or mix vegetables sir?
Rice, eba or pounded yam (not powder flour) sir?

I will like to have her around in my house O!

Thank you OP for this thread. Apart from a few uncivil distractions, it's been very interesting.

Thanks to Erediauwa too for the soccer analogy.

Madam, it has nothing to do with the mother or women. There is something about men when they start thinking with their dick. Many people blame the girlfriend or the wife. Men can love you to death and "something" might still catch their fancy. You cannot put a finger on it.
Be it the way the lady smiles, walk or say good morning sir.

bigtt76:
Advise your mum to start dressing attractively like the woman and see changes.

The good part, it means the man is healthy

One country?

Many countries. Do Google search.

Even if you are right, I thought all Americans are millionaires and billionaires.

If you are looking for a country of law and order, go find out about Operation WAI. Better still korokoro in China or Russia.

If you are looking for chaos, go find out about New York Blackout of 1977!

DexterousOne:
Tell me one country that most of its people are not living paychecks to paycheck

Small lockdown in Nigeria
Everything has fallen apart

If the informal economy is closed for just one week in Lagos alone
Not even Nigeria

The economy will collapse
And people will die of hunger

If that hawker does not hawk for a week
Or that market woman
If that agbero does not collect money from the bus stop.
Or the aboki selling carrot at mile 12


Hunger will be unprecedented

This global economic order sef

See dis man wan put me inside hot wata.

AreaFada2:
Agreed. Because the shame & consequences are way bigger for a lady. About 35% of firstborn kids belong to another man outside and about 30% of all kids too. Women are much more crafty and cautious flirt wise.

But suppose she wasn't that smart. Or despite trying to be smart you catch her unexpectedly getting too close to a guy, would you say mind your business?

AreaFada2:
I guess this is meant to be a joke.
Because if his mum was doing this to one young neighborhood guy, would you respond same way?

Look, we do not give women enough respect. A woman would be that open?

Accept that they are way smarter than us. If they fff someone close to you, would you know?

hurryup123:
God is with us
Ma

Heaven helps those who help themselves. Reasonable people plan ahead, mumu pray ahead.

Even people that do not have her money, have talents to plan for the worst scenerio.

This guy may be smarter than we think by just creating some fabu story.

Whatever the case, two matured people can be talking in front of a kid to obscure the message. He wants to take his dad's zipper to a street tailor.

When his dad asked the lady to fix his zipper, can anyone think of a better opening to a man's heart?

Here is a picture showing evidence that 80% of almighty Americans live from one paycheck to another.

Hunger not only on the streets by the homeless but by middle and lower class Americans going to the soup kitchen or lining up for free food because they cannot afford to buy.

Nigerians say: look at discipline!

70% of the deaths from COVID-19 are Africans and minorities.

Nigerians say: see free healthcare!

I taya for una.

Chei OP!

Make lielie no kill you O. Dis na America?

America wey everybody be millionaire and billionaire.

Don't you think Yoruba get tired of your assault on Awo?

What did he do wrong? Gave Igbo 20 pounds as if they were the only ones that suffered during the war. Do not forget that at that point and time, he was accused of bribing Igbo to vote for him. The 20 pounds could pay rent for 5 months in Lagos. Actually more months outside Lagos island. In Surulere rent was two pounds ten.

Oh, Awo started tribalism in Nigeria. What a lie! Before Awo formed Yoruba group, Igbo, Hausa and even Ibibio had groups in existence.

Awo did not allow Zik to rule Yoruba. No wonder Yoruba Youth ask what their parents were smoking. A man who said Igbo was ordained by God to rule the world.

Ask the American Indians if they have to do it all over again, if they would rescue Columbus from the Sea waves.

The same Awo that gave Zip Executive PM on a silver platter.

The same Awo that defied Akintola and others to campaign in the East with Igbo as his Vice and almost lost his life in very hostile crowd.

The same Awo that that asked for a clause to opt out of Nigeria and Zik rejected.

The same Zik that advised Aguiyi Ironsi to turn Nigeria into Unitary Government.

BTW, how many Yoruba defend Yoruba crooks or how many Yoruba go to the East or outside Nigeria to beat their chests?

Abegi Yemefe!

SciLab:
@ bolded

Do you want to play the usual 'everybody in the world hates Igbo and love we yoruba' card

Yah, everybody hates Ibos and love yorubas. Go throw an Owambe party.

Have you read Awolowo's Autobio, that was published in 1950s, which is riddled numerous litanies of anti-Igbo rhetorics therein?

SciLab,

If you want to go back to pre-internet, Yoruba tolerance and accommodation still hold. Which you have now tagged bad words.

Igbo will always be part of me, I do not know and will not know how to be otherwise even if Biafran is gone.

Nigeria as a Country was started by Herbert Macauley, Akinsanya and Bode Thomas, Earnest Ikoli, Azikiwe, Awolowo were his followers.

Educate us please if you can in the history of Africa when you were ahead of Yoruba. Every and any Igbo that ever made it from those times made it from Yoruba land.

Why are you tormenting you mentors, abusing them, ask them to turn the other check while their children applaud you?

Please stop, it is provoking.

Look at what you have turned yourselves into. What have you gained except disdain inside and outside Africa.

I still longed for the days Igbo had respect all over Yoruba land. If you are old enough, tell your children to stop. They will be repulsed with everything they throw and lose.

Once a Nigerian, always a Nigerian. It takes less than deadly Covid-19 to realize that. You cannot tell the guy not to come home.

My problem is the amount of Niara it takes to live overseas. Most of these guys have no source of income there. They have never had Gburu or any job there, yet they live "comfortably" than guys working there.

I tell you, there is more to money. All that glitters is not gold, not even Amala and Ewedu!

Why single out Nairaland?

Mention one Nigeria social media where Yoruba and Igbo do not go after one another. From Nigeriaworld, Biafrianigeriaworld to Nigeriavillagesquare and many others including foreign media.

Yoruba Moderators have killed their media by trying to be fair to Igbo at the expense of Yoruba, just to be accommodating as usual.

Indeed, after being warned of the unfairness in order to retain Igbo members, they lost their sites. These same sites were invaded by virus from the same Igbo members they were trying to accommodate.

Never once was any Igbo banned on Biafranigeriaworld where they spit all kinds of insults on Yoruba.

Look, many Yoruba do not like insults on Igbo BUT after many years of tolerance and accommodation, you cannot hold or blame Yoruba Youths from fighting back. Something their parents did not do.

We can all get along if we respect one another. Nobody has exclusive right or monopoly on insults especially against your hosts on their land.

Try that in Europe, Americas or even South Africa.

Personally, even if Nigeria breaks, I usually feel comfortable with Igbo anywhere. This new vitriol does not help, I must say.

You must be a very unhappy man going on every thread denying your Yoruba conqueror from food, gods, culture to Oba.

What is your Yoruba name?

If you do not have one, you don't belong to the Royal House. It is all the proof you need.

gregyboy:
All of us were fooled in primary school by the former western region revisionist it was a tustle between all top class king to be the chairman of the former western traditional king

If only you can do your research you will wakeup from the old political myth dont be lazy do your research question your doubt and come back to edit this your comment

This Ogiso guys have been beaten to stupor.

No need wasting time trying to convince them. They know the real history, all they are doing now is Rope-A-Dope trying to resurrect this in another thread next week.

Who did not know the history of Benin and Ife from primary school when history was taught.

Very hard working and dedicated man. They all take Commission, bribes or steal from inflated contracts. This is why people say there is corruption in every country.

Even Zik and Awo stole to a degree. They still developed the country.

If you are clean and get tempted by so called allowance, gifts or Commission, you will be made a scapegoat by the real rogues that will sell their country for peanuts.

Ask Pro. Adenine Grande, Prof. Fabian Osuji or Prof West. All of them were set up by crooks to embarrass them.

Compared to Bankole crying that OBJ, and so many stole when in fact he was looking for the biggest loot to steal.

Ambrose Ali, rest in perfect peace. A hero.

I can understand why Nigerians love Canada.

Nigeria's population 200m, Canada's 35m. Water pass garri. The population of Lagos and its surroundings alone don pass 35m.

Na which woman with 35 tiny hole nor go fear man dangling 200 whatever?

Actually, there is no country in the world that do not fear the population of Nigeria overwhelming them.

Canada opened its border at one point when Mexicans and other S.Americans were thrown out of US. Trust Nigerians, they overwhelmed Canadian borders until the exercise had to stop.

It boils down to the fact that those who messed up our country come from each family and some include us. So if we messed up our country who is going to allow us to mess up theirs?

Reality is that children of immigrants today are doing worse than their parents in Canada. Some of their parents had to move to US or came back home because they could not get professional jobs in Canada.

Eh, who cares about professional jobs today?

Man must wack jo!

No culture anywhere that I know of would accept that nonsense.

Some men do their own chores out of training as youth to be independent of anyone and to stay fit.

But be careful now, I have seen an uncle doing chores for the children of his rich brother with the rich brother's silence. Very disgusting!

Each time I see Yoruba Muslims and Yoruba Christians às a way to sow discord between Yoruba, I find it hilarious.

If comes from those that do not realize that there is an old adage within Yoruba that: A ki gba Were mo Esin.

Yoruba nor dey catch madness with religion. May be I should not expose this but each time I see Yoruba Muslims, laff wan kill me.

There is not much contradictions in both thread. One pointed out the facts, the other accepted it.

But she generalized the loneliness worldwide to both some women and some men too.

Most of the good materials for marriage or companionship in Nigeria are lonely out of choice, pride or notorious behavior of partners. In Diaspora, men have an edge over women because they have more choices than women.

Foreigners going after black girls do so short time out of curiosity and fetishness. Do not use exceptions as the norm.

Successful black men and even boys abroad avoid marriage because it can disposess them of everything they worked for.

Though I did not read everything, I was surprised that in 2020, some men are coming back home for a wife!

Go to any University abroad, there are good young Nigerian girls looking for good men. If it does not work out, there are more girls coming after they graduate.

This is damn alarming.

A case study for African countries especially Nigeria with high densely population in the cities.

Very embarrassing.

Stalwert:
But why lie? Couldn't she had just made that point?

These are sad stories. I was wondering why someone wrote it took 8 to 10 years to get out of the mess. I thought he meant training.

It is not training but a mess to become desperate.

Think about it, this happened to many graduates, not only in medicine.

Believe those girls that claimed Sexual Harassment by professors.