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Snowwy: @Op,
The use of anointing oil by the church is very right. However, note that everything can be abused.
Scriptures below show the use of anointing all in the NT.:

Mark 6:13
And they cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them.

This is when the disciples were allocated in twos by Jesus to go on evangelism.

James 5:14-15
14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

That is another scripture above on anointing the sick. However note that it is the prayer of faith that heals and not the anointing oil. The anointing all can be a conduit but faith in God and not the oil is the key.


You can also see where anointing oil was used for consecration in the OT and Jesus also mentioned anointing with oil on the head as a sign of honour in Luke 7:46.

I will advise you to be be wary of those who claim to always know better than the bible even when the bible clearly states a thing.

May the Holy Spirit continually teach us all things, that is the best teaching that cannot be condemned and it requires lots of sensitivity.

Bidam: I thot Image has done justice to that...well i don't argue scriptures. I take them literally as the word of God, unless a revelation comes from that particular scripture..well i think i will connect the hebrew scripture with other scriptures to emphasize why tithing is indeed biblical.

Joagbaje: You're still going about in this circle ? If Heb 7 put ends to tithing, it as well put end to prayer, worship, alms giving, free will offering, justice , honoring father and mother etc. think again.

Segun agagu: Okk. No problem

Goshen360: Plus, if you have other assignment...go and do it, it's time for me to sleep here because of time difference. I will resume this thread when I wake up.

Segun agagu: Genesis 28:18-19
18 Early the next morning Jacob took the stone he had placed under his head and set it up as a pillar and poured oil on top of it. 19 He called that place Bethel, though the city used to be called Luz

Exodus 25:6-9
6 olive oil for the light; spices for the anointing oil and for the fragrant incense; 7 and onyx stones and other gems to be mounted on the ephod and breastpiece.

8 "Then have them make a sanctuary for me, and I will dwell among them. 9 Make this tabernacle and all its furnishings exactly like the pattern I will show you.

Exodus 29:7-8
7 Take the anointing oil and anoint him by pouring it on his head. 8 Bring his sons and dress them in tunics

There are sOoooooooo many..if I begin..I won't finish ..check d Exodus 29:7-8. Wat do have to say about that...waiting

Segun agagu: Am also a mfm member..don't mind peole here..its nt even only mfm dat uses annointing oil...much spiritual churches do and even good pastors...I really love my church...MFM for life..Best church in d WORLD..

Segun agagu: @op..wat kind of question is dis..it is very very very very very very very RIGHT..its in d bible..I will try and locate it and get back to u..and please don't mind all dese people on nairaland..I tell u dey can make u backslide or lead u astray..lolssssss

Goshen360: At least, let's start with what oil is and what the purpose of oil is, what and how is oil to be used, when is oil to be used?

baseg25: am a mountain of fire member...Is it only mountain of fire dat use anointing oil?..just support or oppose wif reason... i knw when ds topic is tag to d homepage dats when d real debate has just begins..@image123, i lyk ur point keep it up

Goshen360: At least, let's start with what oil is and what the purpose of oil is, what and how is oil to be used, when is oil to be used? Etc

ekene2011: @ GOSHEN THINK DEEPLY N BE CAREFUL OF WORDS U USE ON MEN OF GOD EVEN IF THEY ARE FAKE OR WHAT EVER JUST LEAVE THEM TO GOD. TRUST ME GOD SEES ALL THESE TINS...............

Zikkyy: The concern here is how do you even begin to preach tithe as a spiritual principle? What makes a fixed percentage of my income a spiritual principle? The only difference i see between tithing and other givings is that it is determined as 10% of my income (the pastoral definition). you are not providing full disclosure when you say tithing is a spiritual principle. The way you guys describe it, tithing is not just 10% it must be a tenth of my total income.

[b]I could have given a tenth of my basic salary to the church/pastor, i can chose to give a tenth of one month salary as annual tithe (it is still a tenth); assuming i have interest in two or more businesses, i could decide to give a tenth from just one of them. The problem is you guys don't see these transactions as tithing. Abraham gave only a tenth of war spoils (Melchi was not always around on a monthly or annual basis to collect Abby's tithe from his agric business); Jacob determined when and how he was to give his tithe. It was not determined by God or priest (Jacob was not tithing prior to his journey. he probably gave his tenth years or decades after his vow. that is if he gave at all. It could have been a one tithe event); the Mosaaic law did not define tithe as a strict 10%, and it did not define tithe as 10% from all takings/earnings.

Prayer is as determined by the individual, same for intercession, alms giving and honoring your parents. There is no fixed approach to it. Why is tithe different? if Christians don't tithe according to the law, why is the definition fixed? what is the basis for the modern day tithing practice? Joagabje, i just don't see how you can talk about tithe today without tying it to the law. [/b]

bankylan: I went through all your posts on Nairaland just to confirm my opinion of you, and I am not surprised. I am sure you have lost hope in life, maybe because of the poverty and frustration you have suffered in life. Calling a Pastor you don't know a thief is the height of mental degradation. If at all your problem is hereditary, you should not be too boastful of it by saying things like this on Nairaland.

Go and write this down, if you will ever fulfill destiny in life, you need to ask God for forgiveness. No one ever blasphemed against the ordained men of God and go free. Are you more intelligent and educated than people in church who are givers? Go to churches on Sundays and see young men and women in thousands serving God. Are u better than them in any way? Do you want to say they don't know what they are doing?...

Joagbaje: ...

Christian tithing is not according to law but by faith of individuals. Tithing is a spiritual principle, as others ,such as prayer, intercession,alms giving, honoring father and mother etc.

He took is to a minister who pronounced blessing on him .the issue there is that the minister has the power to bless.

The righfful owner was the victor in the war(abraham) It's a matter of choice what he did with the spoil after giving his tithe. It's a matter of choice what a christian does with his money after giving his tithe. Besides the bible didn't say abraham gave tithe only once . We only have it recorded once. Jacob also was a tither but all the details were not recorded.

Joagbaje: Precisely ! Now you're talking. The reason Christians tithe is not because the law says so . Case finish

Goshen360: ...but your tithe and tithing is practiced ACCORDING to the law or the pattern of the law tithing even though you claim tithing was BEFORE the law and the reason you tithe is not because the law said so......Abi Abraham took tithe to the temple or storehouse which you tithe teachers say the church is the storehouse..... If it is MUST for Christians to follow Abraham tithe from spoils of wars, you MUST also teach them NOT TO KEEP ANYTHING FROM THEIR INCOME...because Abraham as we know did not keep anything he got from the war, he gave EVERYTHING back to the rightful owners......

Joagbaje: Precisely ! Now you're talking. The reason we tithe is not because the law says so . Case finish

epmmiks: Is any sick among u let them call for the elders anointing him with oil. Still relevant in the new testament

tpia1: Adeboye is not your mate, dear.

if YOU want to die because you dont like God blessing him, then who can stop you?

tpia1: ^ you sound like you're from a baby farm.

no elders that you know of, talkless home training.

the few ones you knew of, were more twisted than you, hence your presence there to begin with.

baseg25: dnt quote me wrng ,i thnk u shld read d begning and also read wat other nairalndrs say abt dis.i knw dats goshen own belief.