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To add to these teachings, All the three kinds of man is represented in US: Our Body (Natural man); Our Soul ( Carnal man) and Our Spirit (Spiritual man). When a man gets born again, it is the spirit that is born again and this spirit is where God deals with, in the word and in worshiping God. The Natural man, our body is not born again but always in constant fight against our spirit. Our Soul, carnal man should be renewed constantly so as to take side with the our spirit man instead of taking side with our body so as to do the will of God.

Just an addition. Thanks

[quote author=Joel.]The words i pay attention to in the bible are words directly from, God,Jesur,Satan and his Demons, the demons and satan know jesus and God who created them better. Now Look this mark 1:23, i read (GNT), Just then a man with an evil spirit in him came into the synagogue and screamed.
24, what do you want with us, jesus of nazareth? Are you here to destroy us? I know who you are- you are God's Holy messenger!
You see demons knw there creator, they can confess him as their Heavenly Father but cannot confess Jesus the Son as their Lord. That is the problem.[/quote]Joel,

Please stop derailing yourself in this thread. I know you started it for some reason BUT you are just going out of point. The verse you just quoted, where does it show that the demons confessed Jesus as their heavenly father? I can't understand you bro.

achi4u: sir,having heard from you,i will remain who i am "a child of GOD"with no church.soon i may join logicboy &co.thanx

lol. Please, don't join logic boy o and co o, please i beg of you. What am saying is, when you study the bible for yourself, instead of being spoon fed by a pastor. You will be able to know "when" a pastor is deceiving or not. You should fellowship with fellow brethren and also, when you study the word, God can use you to affect some lives positively in a church. This is what am trying to communicate. I hope you get what am saying.

@ Joel,

Can i ask you a question also?

@ nyameke

What version or translation of bible do you read?
Are you an Israelite?

Stay on board for like 1 hour if you can, let's chat some course. I did a study and it's similar to what you are saying that Yahweh is the personal name of God but at that, Jesus is different from the Father which he himself said in many instances. "God" when used will then depend on the context of the scriptures and I can show you many instance.

I might not have much time today but will always reply you in every 5-10mins but if we can't finish this discussion, we continue tomorrow if you have time. I will be fully available from Mondays to Fridays.

@ nyameke,

Can i ask you a question please?

oludyke: The church has the responsibility to safeguard the true and original apostolic doctrine found in Scripture and commit unto others without compromise or corruption. It is important for believers to study the Bible for the following reasons:
1. To know, guard and teach true Biblical faith and God’s righteous standards (2 Tim 3:15; 1 Tim 4:6,11; Rom 6:17)
2. To show us the vital necessity for us to contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints (Jude 3) by providing the means by which to defend the faith against all false theologies (Acts 20:31).
3. To lead believers into continual growth in character through Godly teaching (Jos 1:8; Ps 1:2-3; 119:97-100; Mt 28:20; John 17:14-18).
4. To equip believers to strengthen and bring to maturity other believers so that together we may reflect Christ’s image in the home, the church and the society (Eph 4:11-16).
5. To bring believers to a deeper understanding and experience of God’s kingdom on earth and its conflict against the forces of evil (Eph 6:10-18).
6. To motivate believers through the eternal truths of the gospel to be wholeheartedly committed to evangelising and preaching the gospel to all creature (Mt 28:18-20; Mk 16:15-20).
7. It deepens our experience of Christ’s love, personal fellowship and the exercise of the gifts of the Holy Spirit (John 17:3,21,26; Eph 3:18-19).

Studying the Bible is a continuous and an un-ending training that all believers undergo while here on earth. True Biblical training emphasises true righteousness and not mere apprehension of Biblical facts and truths. The truths in the Bible are redemptive truths and not academic postulations. A personal response is required by all those who study the Bible as these are issues involving life or death (Jas 2:17; Phi 1:9).

God bless you.

GREAT ARTICLE. GOD BLESS YOU TOO. GREAT WORK.

Image123: You're flattering me nuclear. Has Goshen asked his 'ultimate' questions already?

Apostle Image123,

What am saying is, you have answered 10 kweshions. I gave a rebuttal to 3 of them. I asked you if you wanted us to treat the rebuttals one after the other, you didn't answer to I continued. While I continued, you came in and said, we should give the rebuttal one after the other but I already gave rebuttal to three of your answers. You gave another rebuttal to my FIRST rebuttal out of the three. Now you said we should treat that one to one rebuttal first and I said, since you already gave answers to TEN questions already. We already know/have your answers and in other not to go in circles as you said, let me ask you some questions that will clear ALL the things in your answers/rebuttal SO AS TO AVOID GOING IN CIRCLE AND AVOID ENDLESS TALK. This is the reason I said, you have already spoken ALL what you want to say when you answered Q1-10.

From your answers, let me ask you some PERSONAL QUESTIONS from your own answers and this will clear ALL ENDLESS TALK. This is what I meant. These questions are going to be straight and direct and I also need straight and direct answers.

CAN I START TO ASK MY QUESTIONS SIR?

Thanks.

But how does it appear like that without using the "flash"? I can't see the "flash" anymore. I know how to embed it from YouTube but coming to NL to paste it, I thought I have to activate "flash" first before i paste the link in between the "flash" I activated. I don't see the "Flash" button is what am talking about.

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Hey, I don't see the "Flash" to create video when I want to create one. What did you click to create the video?

You see what that Noah thread had done to you? Now you are in the same mess as Noah

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Abeg GO SLEEP. G'night bro. Enjoy your sleep.

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Doesn't that speak of unity? I can't understand why you these Atheists are just all over the place looking for trouble from us. "Your wife and You are ONE" should in case you are married. Does that mean you don't understand English or what? At least, you can read that "My Father" and "I" speaks of two people in that sentence that are one.

Why looking for trouble? You are not needed in this thread, Atheists.

buzugee: sup my brethrennnnnnnnn Goshen. am high

Take it easy o. Maybe you are beginning to act like Noah that you created a thread for,lol. I wonder who will cover you now,lol

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I still don't understand your answers anyway. But be good and attend a bible teaching church. This is my concern for you and more importantly, STUDY the word by yourself. This way, you will be able to prove ALL things for yourself.

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You can as well volunteer to answer my kweshions.

Why did all the tithe teachers suddenly disappear,lol Apostle Image123 and Olaadegbu, Where art thou?

@ Image123,

This is the time I need to validate your Apostleship. . Make you no fall my hand now o, please.

This questions am talking about are summary to yours and my points. Instead of we explaining further, these questionS are just going to clear the air of any errors. You have said your points and I have stated mine. So the questionS will be drawn from what we have both said. Kindly do me this honour and though, the questionS are going to be many but I will ask them one after the other.

@ Olaadegbu,
I don't mind if you also could answers these my questions.

Thank and am waiting for either of you please.

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Exactly my point, teachings and understanding o. I just can't understand why people will just be quoting OT and teaching the OT when it is very clear that He, Christ took AWAY the Old that He might establish the NT. The same thing they do when it comes to tithe. Stone your wife who is not a virgin, they tell you we are no more under the OT. Stone your rebellious kids, they will say we are no more under the OT. I can't just understand all these about people. Smh,lol

Image123,

Why are you dodging all the questions I said I was going to ask? You are not talking to me anymore. You and Olaadegbu had been dodging and dribbling me to ask my questions. WHY?

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What is the question #2. I can't find it. Ask it again please.

[quote author=Joel.]Why i am correcting this topic. Is that many big pasters and fathers have been mislead and teaching Jesus as God the Creator.[/quote]There is nothing misleading here BUT let's see what you want to teach/correct. Go ahead.

All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. John 1:3

For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. Col 1:16

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Okay, we shall not leave the weightier matter out at the expense of this subject. I have answered your questions and prove what I believed. Can we go on to my questions now? Guess you are trying to avoid what is ahead.lol

[quote author=Joel.]John 10:33
the jews answered him saying, for a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
So jesus is God as He's said to be the Son of the Suprime God, but not the Suprime God. We all as man are also Gods we came from the Suprime God as free will.[/quote]Am with you bro Joel. God - the father is distinct from the son. Jesus is God but distinct from God the father.

@ frosbel,

I was doing a study recently and got to know that "God" is NOT is personal name. I believe this is where we get lost st times. John 1:1 is very clear about this subject.

In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God and the Word was God.

It is very clear here that "God" is NOT the name of one person/being/deity.

There was a God in the beginning
There was a Word in the beginning and this Word is also God.

So the Word is called God and there is also God who is also at the beginning. Hence, the son is God and the father is God.

Kindly do a word study on God.

@ Olaadegbu,

I believe Jesus is God and distinct from the God, the Father.

Leave Kunle out of this. Face me,lol. Kunle is NOT my hero as you said. Okay.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. John 1:1-3 nkjv

He (Christ, the word-God) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. Col.1:15-17 nkjv

Can you see what I believe in these verses.

@ frosbel,

The mystery is NOT difficult. We have the complete bible to search the truth. I believe Jesus is also God but distinct from the God, the Father. God is not a personal name. The personal name for God, the father is Yahweh. Personal name for the son is Jesus who is also God in the God family.

What exactly is your point here?

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The Poster NEVER said Jesus is the Supreme God o. He said, Jesus is NOT the Supreme God. God is NOT a personal name.

[quote author=Joel.]What am saying is that Jesus is not the Suprime God Himself.[/quote]Very Correct sir.

[quote author=Joel.]The Spirit of God pour down and form Jesus. It was done by the Holy Spirit.[/quote]This is heavy and AM NOT SURE ABOUT THIS YOUR STATEMENT. I don't want to jump to conclude it's heresy UNTIL Proven. So we are waiting that you prove this statement biblically.

[quote author=Joel.]He was like Adam who God blow His Spirit on hes noise and life enter him that was why man became gods because we came from God. It was the same transformation that Jesus came but He was concieved and born. I am writing all this from phone it not easy.[/quote]Also, you need to prove this also. I don't want to jump to conclusion that this statement is heresy. We will wait until you can type from your PC so you can defend this statement scripturally. Okay.

OLAADEGBU: My answering your kweshuns depend on where you stand on the deity of Christ, verbal inerrancy of the Scriptures and biblical creation.

Okay sir, ask me questions about the deity of Christ and I will answer you sir. However, I believe in the pre-existence of Christ in the beginning before the beginning of Genesis 1. I also believe in the eternity of God and Christ, without beginning and without ending.

So, will you answer my questions now? or you want to keep dribbling me/us,lol