somehow:


PayPal fund?

Kindly read his message that I quoted because I can sẹe you're trying to paint a narrative never shared by me.

You have come to mock me before now, so I know your gimmicks.

You don't expect me to lay bare my plans which would make me foolish.

I don't need your plan
You shouldn't lay it bare.
But you are accusing someone of been a criminal only because he choose not to condemn n3xt.
And because he happened to next supplier.

The narration you shared is what I quoted and added ink to.
You saying show me your friend is clearly marking person out as a criminal.
If you choose not to have business with blessed Sunday. It's your cup of tea
But your writing that is defamation and damaging to his business.

Like I said earlier
You are a perfect example.
Your bank account was used to commit fraud (mmortimo pointed it out) by your narrative. You are equally involved
Sellah

somehow:


And you read the reason I said so I believe?
And did the fellow tell you I called him the names you listed there?

These people you listed above didn't claim ignorance of what is happening.

First of all
You were bullying him because he didn't condemn next.
Secondly you tried to deny bullying him
Now you are giving reasons for bullying him.

The people choose to condemn next. If the decide not to, you can't force them to it.
People like you will condemn electorates who choose to side with a particular politician, just because they are not supporting your fav.
It is a free world. Anyone can choose side.

I don't know blessed sunny from any where.
But you can't just come out and associate people with criminality when they have never been found guilty..

You are a perfect example.

sometime ago someone here pointed out how you were involved with defrauding a member of this forum, with PayPal funds. You came out to defend yourself that your account was used but you were not involved. She allowed the case to rest because you were not the fraudster, your bank account was only used.
Same thing here. If someone has supplied next paint here or gravel or doors or even wires
They shouldn't be branded thieves like next, irrespective of whether they condemn or don't condemn next.
Like I said earlier
You are a perfect example.

somehow:


Go and read my message to that fellow again but with an opened mind if you care.

Read the marked parts
Is this not bullying him because he didn't condemn n3xt openly ?
His only fault been that he supplied materials to n3xt ?
Seems you are not getting me right.

N3xt is a thieve and it is so obvious he defrauded you and not willing to bal your money.

But my issue here is that you are calling others thieves because they are not publicly condemning him.

I am sure next must have at one time or the other receive supplies or stuffs from the likes of gbadesky, topsy, twinskenny etc.
Will you now call them thieves despite them having an unblemished reputation here ?

I hope you understand now.

somehow:


Don't worry about what I should do.

I am here to make sure he doesn't get any new victim for the time being.

That's good.
But pls don't paint other artisans bad for associating with him or been his supplier.
Everybody is looking for food in this jungle.

somehow:
I owe you no response having known where you stand from the start.

The rooster will surely come home to roast.

Unlike you
I don't need your response.
What you are doing is bad.
You are bullying someone just because he supplied n3xt.
It's as simple as this.
If your wife has a case with police men.
They have no right to punish or detain you, so long you are not involve with said crime.

Next defrauded you. Take him to court, take him to police station, take him to ijebu.

if all members of this forum start typing fraudster at any of next post, bro that won't make him to pay you. He has done that before, he will just leave the forum and come back after some years. you can't fight someone like that with same method.
You need to go hard and hard enough on him.
But your subtle begging won't help.
If with my last post you are still been emotional and not seeing the truth in it.
Then I wish you the best

somehow:


You asked him then the whole truth was posted here and trashed here?

Did you not read the conclusion or what is there to ask privately again?

Were you expecting him to say otherwise in private?

All the same, people are watching those associating with dubious elements.

Show me your friend and I will tell you who you are is an evergreen adage.

You're an adult, so I won't tell you what to do, but there's a reward for every action /inaction.

Have a nice day.

There are so many ways to go about this
And your money will come out in less than a week.

First of all
Your lawyer will write a letter to him, giving him 7 days notice.
Secondly you contact instablog, Tunde ednut gistlover and paste those notice to them to post for you. Shikini money, then take him to court. Your lawyer can lay emphasis on the fact that this is not the first time he has treated people that way with solid examples.
If your lawyer is good.
Your money will come out. Ensure your lawyer puts in interest for days he won't pay.
Let the court or police men be the one to collect your money for you, or let him pay to your lawyers bank account..
If all the above no work.

Travel to ijebu ode or ijebu Igbo
And do the needful there.

Listen to your lawyer sha.

somehow:


As long as your own belly is full, you don't care how the "recommender" acted or who he hurt in the process right?

You have never called him out even after seeing everything laid on the table but when you're ropped with him, you start denying like you did before.

Money is not everything, people are watching everyone and seeing beyond our posts on this "not-so-faceless" forum.

You are behaving like a kid.
Not everyone will do your bidding bro.

There are associates of anini who have benefited and still see him as a Messiah.

You can't rope anyone into supporting you or following your claim.
You are either too emotional or just been a kid.
At this rate it looks like you are begging him to pay your money.
Your claim is very very valid.
You have his address and his number.
He has shown you times without number that he is either not willing to pay or will delay your payment till you forget. Or the money becomes useless.

I hope you know that your 2m naira as at 6 months or so is not same amount now.
By the time he even pays you the money would have become useless.
You just come online and rant daily that you are working on something offline, then turn back to beg him stylishly to pay your money.
You can't have 2m outside and be begging from it from someone that has a bad history and reputation.
Policemen will be damn happy to retrieve your money for you.
Lawyers will jump on your case.
You only need to waste max of 300k to retrieve your money. If you are lucky, court or police station will even make sure you get the money you wasted in the case.

But coming online, pleading for your money is not going to bring it out.
The more time you waste stylishly begging for the money that belongs to you. The more you lose your chances of collecting it back.
Shalom

folmus:


I might help you ask those living there 24/7.
We do see light most time we go there.

Thank you
Pls I will be waiting for your reply

folmus:


I think electricity is not bad in the area, of course you can't rule out the Nigerian factor.

I understand you boss
I just wanna have an idea of how many hours per day.
Like in some areas
You can get 12 hrs daily.
Other areas 18 hrs daily.
I am so sorry if my questions are too much

folmus:


Hahahaha.

To be honest, Poka is a fast-developing area in Epe. I didn't deal with all these expensive Estates selling hinterland at extremely exorbitant fee . I wish I had sufficient fund. I would have gone for more than a plot.

Daddy
Pls how is the power supply in epe
Especially poka ?

sonnie10:
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Go back and read that my last post, this time slowly and tell me what you really make out of it.
Can you repost the picture of the external wall again now that it must have been dry. I want to check something.
Do me a favor, place a bottle on the window hood and snap the picture. Thanks.

If I may ask, how exactly were you expecting him to get doors worth almost #200k with #88k deposit other than from the money you would pay him at completion of job.
The subtotal of contract, that is minus the amount for doors is not even up to the cost of doors alone.
How else does advanced fee fraud work?

Are you his mouth piece ?
Is he a kid ?


You are just defending rubbish


why did he collect 88k out of 200k if he knew it won't do much
Why will he collect the money.

Why will he tell his client that job has already started on the doors , then return weeks letter to cancel

Why will he dubiously try to use clients door frames after client already paid for those door frames.

if 88k was not gonna be enough for the doors he has a right to not collect a dime or insist on a higher amount
But you are here blaming client for paying 88k instead of blaming the contractor who collected 88k, lied that job is already ongoing and still tried to dubiously use frames that he collected money for.

Alaye
YOU ARE BIASED

sonnie10:


This here is exactly why I wished luck in his future endeavors here. Not even up a day, he has been quoted out of context.
I fact remains that he said that out of anger for being asked an obvious question.

Sir
You are obviously defending him
It's so obvious


Are you there with him for you to know if he said that out of anger or not.
Pls stop trying to change the narrative

Imagine creating excuse for him

He should defend himself not you.
You are just creating excuses for him.

What do you have to say about the substandard work then
What excuse do you have for that

sonnie10:

In a typical Nigerian voice and manner, how would you respond to someone asking you about doors which was already refunded?
Would you be upset if someone ask you about that again?

There is difference between
did I collect money for door?
And
did I not refund the door money ?

Thank you sir for your time
I am not saying anything again over this issue
Goodnight sir

sonnie10:


Would it not have been easier if you showed where rotech denied any of these claims as evident in the receipt and including where he denied collecting part parment for doors?

It’s a slippery slop to accept every claim just because someone said so first.

Here

sonnie10:

There you go again. “ he said his phone lost” I have said before that we cannot go by words of mouth.
Secondly I believe I must have missed the part where rotecch denied collecting part payment for doors.

Lastly, in any matter it is the accuser’s duty to proof his case.

On a side note, a wise joke I heard somewhere. When you give a condemned person an option to point to where he would like to be buried after execution, he is most likely to spend a whole life time searching for a right spot

Sir
He brought receipts of transactions
People lost chats from time to time.
He brought pictures of the Said building.
Why can't the vendor post the contract and other things to show that he didn't goof here.
I am not trying to paint rotech bad here sir.
But I am not just trying to make us put more pain into the victims wounds.we both should agree that rotech did a poor job of handling this case.
From insults to
I am not saying a dime word on this issue again.

We
I mean we
We
All of us. 99.9999 if us are bad
This is the one and only reason why Nigeria keeps failing.
We are bad as a people
And bad individually.
We are all bad and very bad
We are thieves
And me inclusive.
When I say we are all
I mean 99.999 of us.
Which means virtually all of us.

Yesterday I was in a discussion with some people and we talk on how a civil servant in osun state returned part of his salary to pay for the day he was absent from work(his child naming ceremony). When aregbe heard about him, he called the man to give him a political post, the man still declined the appointment, on the basis that he did what he was meant to do and nothing extra.

We all laughed and insulted this great Alfa.
This is how bad we are.

If not for stories.
Billions would have been flowing through nairaland property section per year.

sonnie10:


Right here sir.
We cannot conclude from just words of mouth.
There must be supporting evidence.
The only time words of mouth can be accepted is in a stituation when both parties agree on a certain fact. For instance, they both agree on the amount that was paid for the basin and doors. They also agree on the amount that was refunded albeit a difference of 5k.

physical job and materials are involved here, so circumstantial edivrnce is not really necessary in getting to the truth.

Did you read the part where he said he lost his phone and WhatsApp chats ??

Did you also read the part where he gave express permission for rotech to post their chats


Initially
Rotech denied that there was even any talk about doors and there was nothing like doors in their discussion
Until the man brought out receipts

day in day out, we keep putting blames, we keep investigating, we keep questioning victims
(I am also guilty of this)
When we should be holding professionals to high standards.
Construction companies should first and foremost be able to deliver on client's needs to almost perfection, if they can't, they shouldn't take the jobs.
They should be able to handle diverse set of clients.
You don't expect everybody to be a sheep
Integrity should never be lacking.

I have seen chats on Reddit where
For example contractor A ask for $5 for a product
And buyer is willing to pay $10 for it.
Contractor A will rather not take the money/job at all than take free money..

Our contractors here don't care about the jobs they are doing as much as the money.

bobkezel:

You are going overboard with @sonnie's.. He is not supporting @rotech neither is he supporting you. He is just as neutral, trying to get the facts right be blames could be apportioned...
He is concerned and is doing a great investigative job so far.
Just calm down with him.

He is.

And now I am beginning to reason with egun
It doesn't make sense for you to pay premium amount to professionals and end up getting the job and attitude of babalatis

Ire ooo

sonnie10:

Go back and read that my concluding post. But this time read it slowing without emotions.

You are been biased sir.

What do you have to say about the poor job rotech did ?
That alone is a big issue.
And it has nothing to do with the client.
He had the option of not doing the job.
But he did a poor job. No defence.

2. Why will he take payment for basin and not bring it for 3 good months?

3. Why will he take part payment for doors, reply with with "work is on going" then come back after weeks with stories.

4 why will he take payment for door frames, and still tell his artisans to make use of existing frames that belongs to client, that is dubious. It has no two names
It is fucking dubious.


It's laughable that rotech claims he doesn't want to upload chats between him and his client, but finds it easy to be abusing his client's father.
That's hypocritical

Hamachi:
Switch to solar system

Boss sorry
Do you live in epe ?

EgunMogaji2:


If you're going to Epe, then just take Ibadan to Ijebu Ode (75% good road), then Ijebu Ode to Epe (95% good road).

Alternatively, Ibadan to Sagamu on Lagos/Ibadan Expressway (90% good road) then Ijebu Ode/Epe road (80% good road).

I think it took me about 2 hours to get to Epe from Ibadan going at around 55mph.

The road from Ijebu Ode/Epe off of Ore/Sagamu road junction is 100% good. I totalled my BMW power bike on there last year.

God bless you for this fine analysis

EgunMogaji2:


I snuck in and out via the Epe/Ijebu Ode route and it was midday during the week.

Every indication makes me feel it would have been a traffic nightmare if I went through Lagos township.

Abeg stay in Murica and help grow my social security nest egg

Good afternoon daddy
Is there a direct road from Ibadan to ijebu then epe
Without having to follow Lekki epe road ? I mean coming from Ibadan

And pls how is the distance like, I mean drive time
And also is the road good.

lordally:


How's the light in Ikotun?

There two lines
One line provides over 18hours light per day
The other transmission line is terrible

DoctorOlasDesk:




The issue is the light. Just come Berger jeje

Abijo and some areas of Addo meets your budget, but the light part I can't guarantee

I used to scout Abaranje for palm wine with my school mates ages back. All those bend bend roads and arena wey be like say na the bottomest part of earth person dey sef.



Except you wan go Igbogbo/Bayeku for Ikorodu, dey fly boat come through Oke-Ira for Ajah. The only wahala be say between Igbogbo/Bayeku and Abaranje, i no know which one mentre pass

Berger light good

But police wahala nko

DoctorOlasDesk:



Abeg comot that Ikotun/Abaranje. You go get affordable house for Abijo. Abijo, some aspects of Addo is 1000 times better than Ikotun

Ikotun wey be say the human beings wey dey there don overpopulate the city.


State your budget and preferences

Total package is 550k
Rent shouldn't be more than 450 per year
And yes na abaranje lol

I have two dogs
I want to stay in a place where there is no police wahala or efcc bursting people's homes.. I dey fear gun die
Lastly
Atleast 15 hours power supply sir

DoctorOlasDesk:



Why don't you experiment before you take the leap. Visit LBS and then Visit EPE. See things for yourself first hand

I reiterate Epe is not a place to stay for the young generation. It's an extremely bad decision for young ones to stay there.

Lbs is above my budget sir
Make I Kuku stick to Ikotun
Abi wetin you reason ?

DoctorOlasDesk:



Don't go to Epe o. Don't let anyone deceive you. You will regret it. It's dulling.

Just instal solar 300k jeje and don't go anything beyond Blenco supermarket. I tell you o. Lagos Business School environs is cool since you work from home. You can easily connect Sangotedo, Abaraham Adesanya, Ajah etc

I am just looking for a comfortable place with good light

I am no looking for night club or anything like that
Just wbere I will get good light and. Work

Jephyard:


House is cheap in epe. What I observe through out my 1 week stay there, was more than 12 hours light is guaranteed.

Pls what part of EPE
AND IS 12 HOURS LIGHT SURE
ESPECIALLY IN THE NIGHT ?

Hamachi:
Epe is the best place for serene environment

How about light daddy
Is the light there good ??

Hamachi:
You will get even 3bedro with your own prepaid meter

I am actually thinking of going to epe
My work is remote and I need a cool, serene place with atleast 15 hours
I don't know if light is good there

DoctorOlasDesk:



Yes. But total entry package good area should be around 400/450 entering after that 300k per annum

Boss
Pls will one get a 2bed flat for say 4
500k total package per year in Berger
A good place with atleast 15hours power supply daily