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There is no way you are going to.twist this.

Next failed to redeem his image with somehow project.
He failed totally in all areas.

All these back and forth is just constituting nuisance on this thread.
He should either pay up as soon as possible or somehow stops dragging feet with whatever he is planning

n3xt:
Yes it’s part of the Contract.
That’s why I’m wondering why you had to request for another quote amidst the contract for electrical pipe works.
It wasn’t as if we negotiated each stage of work separately. It was a turnkey project.



I never had to review my contract with you but you came with option quotes for the electrical pipe works and chose the least bid submitted by the subcontractors contacted.



The job was awarded to the contractor with the least bid.



Am I supposed to sound stupid?



Noted but I’m not the one who had to review a quote vetted by a QS amidst a project and chose to accept the least bid.



I rest.

Who fixed those conduit pipes
Was it you or a subcontractor ?

Forget about wiring
Who fixed the conduit pipes

If you
Why were the pipes blocked?
And why were they inferior

Or did somehow bought the pipes himself .

IamWonderful:
Epe and iraye side are sharing light, but odomola, Poka, imokun light is good, the Nord factory is around imokun, 2 bedroom is around #200k to 300k

Boss
Pls what area do you live.
I am looking for her I can get 18 hours minimum light for my business
Is like in imokun up to 18 hours sir ?
I am so sorry for disturbing you once again

adeememman:
This is only applicable to woods that is left in the open
Used motor oil can perfectly preserve the wood. This is because used motor oil cannot completely dry. It keeps sipping deeper into the wood. This action will stabilize the wood by making it strong and durable. On the flip side, you cannot use this method to preserve indoor wood.

Using used motor oil is only best for outdoor woodwork.

This is wrong

My dad used black, used engine oil on one of his build up north.
It been over 17 years now
As a matter of fact last two years
I went up there to the roof
Abi na inside the roof.
I was walking on those woods
Trying to hide from kidnappers
Lol.

I did same thing to my school build.
That's basically what everyone does in North.
They use engine oil only.
Nobody uses chemical.
Atleast around builds that I have seen
I am praying and hoping this thread comes back to normal.

IamWonderful:
Epe and iraye side are sharing light, but odomola, Poka, imokun light is good, the Nord factory is around imokun, 2 bedroom is around #200k to 300k

Thank you boss
God bless you abundantly

IamWonderful:
Amen, The light is divided into two side, side A is horrible, let me say disaster, the light is like 5 hours in a day, but side B is awesome, they enjoy about 15 to 18 hours light if there is no grid collapse

Pls sir
What area is that ?
Poka ?
How is rent like there (2bedroom)
And lastly
What part are you or should j say what part is Nord located

IamWonderful:
The Epe company

God bless you boss
I have been looking for who lives in epe
Pls sir
How is light in your area.
How many hours per day do you guys get power supply

IamWonderful:
Their company is close to my house

The epe factory or the one in lekki boss ?

sonnie10:
Did I say it is mine?

No vex
I read meanings to it

sonnie10:
Hotels and Suites
Location SE


If you don't gerrit, 4get about rit

Sorry
How are you able to manage this hotel remotely

n3xt:
Smiles bro. You don’t believe it?

As shocking as it is, it is still outside their lying on the floor even in murky waters. Yet unperturbed.

Well, I believe you can carbon date the wood to confirm how long it has been sitting on the floor.
I took possession of the woods on the 6th August 2011.

I’m also confident it is not only dullards that fill this place. I’m sure there are scientists, physicists and archaeologists here too.

I have samples of the woods to test.


__________

When I read comments of many people here, it shows the level of their ignorance..

This is the beauty of fundamental research.
When a research pick up an object from a dig site, he first question he asks is “How old is it?”

Oh well, I forgot we are first Nigerians (Giants of Africa)

#carbondating #uraniumdating

2011 to down is over 10 years bro
And you are saying for over 10 years
You didn't use these woods for anything on earth
Just left them wasting.
I have personally kept my sch bench outside for 3 years and till date
That bench is rock solid.
However the bench is as heavy as anything on this earth
It's fucking bends nail
But 11 fucking years
Haaaaaa

n3xt:
Just thinking aloud. What if the guy has no ulterior motives?

I went the bush wood route in one of my personal build and I can still tell you some of the woods supplied to me are still lying on the floor unperturbed after many years.

I had to reward the supplier 7 years later when I realized I wasn’t cheated.

The woods
7 years on the floor or. Under the roofing

If on the floor
Did you put them in a shade away from weather elements.


Tori
7 years no be 7 months ooooo

erico2k2:
We don talk say make dem take the matter go court,howver if you talk 2much you support fraud.But I go soon nor come in peace.

Exactly what we have been saying here sir.

Kingdemu:
I'm beginning to think with the way Somehow is going about it, that money isn't really his. It's begining to look as if he's just a front to some rich politician who was lied to as to where the money entered during the construction process. That is why he really doesn't want to go all out for fear of making too much noise to avoid his arse being busted. Cos I wonder why you'll have legally hustled hard for N2m and a guy with 2 balls like you will collect it, and directly and indirectly show you he will not refund you, yet you stay online for months boasting to whoever cares to listen about how you'll soon nail him in few days yet turn around to stylishly beg him. Something is wrong somewhere. Guy might just be scared of going through the law to retrieve it for fear of the source of that money being investigated.

I really don't want to dwell on this
So it won't make it look like I am supporting or not supporting him.
2m is not 200k.
But mmortimo mentioned something's that pointed a direction to some things.
I won't say more than this.

This country is damn hard

Like damn hard
Except you are some fucking billionaire

You can't just forfeit 2m like that
When you have the address and number of the person involve.
Even people from diaspora don't take that shit.

Like n3xt is inflicting emotional pain on him and he has not don't shit about it.
Haaaaaa


Also
There is a possibility n3xt knows something that we don't know. And he is banking on that.
Cos n3xt is posting here with his full chest.
Imagine what nx3t wrote today,
his soon offers hope in an almost hopeless situation
Haaaa

EgunMogaji2:
Above all, you have a right to post whatever you want as long as it doesn't violate the TOS of this site. You're going to forget that I wrote this.

But the bolded is why someone that is currently being owed might take an issue with it.

Just own your full throated reach around, it's your right but don't pretend that you don't know why someone doing defrauded might take an exception to it.

Hope you understand.

PS: I won't personally do business with someone that supports an alleged fraudster when there are other clean businessmen to deal with.

PPS: I don't come in peace at all and I poke violence directly in the chest. I joke, not on Hajjis thread.

egun he has a right to post whatever he wants, but those that keen the client that was defrauded has a right to defame him and damage his business ? Even when he (blessed Sunday) has not been accused of fraud before ?
You can choose to not do business with him sir, but it doesn't make sense if you choose to defame him and his business, especially when he has not commited any fraud.

Few days ago ragpaput accused rotech here, and Sonnie came to his defence, should ragput because of that go about damaging sonnies business because Sonnie didn't support his claim ?


We can't be attacking people's source of living because they are not in tune with our beliefs, or position or what we stand for. Especially when they have not committed any act of fraud.

I feel somehows pain.
The over 2m is damn painful
But I won't be blinded to him publicly try to defame or destroy another innocent man source of livelihood.
Ps.
Me self no fit fight you sir.

somehow:
PayPal fund?

Kindly read his message that I quoted because I can sẹe you're trying to paint a narrative never shared by me.

You have come to mock me before now, so I know your gimmicks.

You don't expect me to lay bare my plans which would make me foolish.

I don't need your plan
You shouldn't lay it bare.
But you are accusing someone of been a criminal only because he choose not to condemn n3xt.
And because he happened to next supplier.

The narration you shared is what I quoted and added ink to.
You saying show me your friend is clearly marking person out as a criminal.
If you choose not to have business with blessed Sunday. It's your cup of tea
But your writing that is defamation and damaging to his business.

Like I said earlier
You are a perfect example.
Your bank account was used to commit fraud (mmortimo pointed it out) by your narrative. You are equally involved
Sellah

somehow:
And you read the reason I said so I believe?
And did the fellow tell you I called him the names you listed there?

These people you listed above didn't claim ignorance of what is happening.

First of all
You were bullying him because he didn't condemn next.
Secondly you tried to deny bullying him
Now you are giving reasons for bullying him.

The people choose to condemn next. If the decide not to, you can't force them to it.
People like you will condemn electorates who choose to side with a particular politician, just because they are not supporting your fav.
It is a free world. Anyone can choose side.

I don't know blessed sunny from any where.
But you can't just come out and associate people with criminality when they have never been found guilty..

You are a perfect example.

sometime ago someone here pointed out how you were involved with defrauding a member of this forum, with PayPal funds. You came out to defend yourself that your account was used but you were not involved. She allowed the case to rest because you were not the fraudster, your bank account was only used.
Same thing here. If someone has supplied next paint here or gravel or doors or even wires
They shouldn't be branded thieves like next, irrespective of whether they condemn or don't condemn next.
Like I said earlier
You are a perfect example.

somehow:
Go and read my message to that fellow again but with an opened mind if you care.

Read the marked parts
Is this not bullying him because he didn't condemn n3xt openly ?
His only fault been that he supplied materials to n3xt ?
Seems you are not getting me right.

N3xt is a thieve and it is so obvious he defrauded you and not willing to bal your money.

But my issue here is that you are calling others thieves because they are not publicly condemning him.

I am sure next must have at one time or the other receive supplies or stuffs from the likes of gbadesky, topsy, twinskenny etc.
Will you now call them thieves despite them having an unblemished reputation here ?

I hope you understand now.

somehow:
Don't worry about what I should do.

I am here to make sure he doesn't get any new victim for the time being.

That's good.
But pls don't paint other artisans bad for associating with him or been his supplier.
Everybody is looking for food in this jungle.

somehow:
I owe you no response having known where you stand from the start.

The rooster will surely come home to roast.

Unlike you
I don't need your response.
What you are doing is bad.
You are bullying someone just because he supplied n3xt.
It's as simple as this.
If your wife has a case with police men.
They have no right to punish or detain you, so long you are not involve with said crime.

Next defrauded you. Take him to court, take him to police station, take him to ijebu.

if all members of this forum start typing fraudster at any of next post, bro that won't make him to pay you. He has done that before, he will just leave the forum and come back after some years. you can't fight someone like that with same method.
You need to go hard and hard enough on him.
But your subtle begging won't help.
If with my last post you are still been emotional and not seeing the truth in it.
Then I wish you the best

somehow:
You asked him then the whole truth was posted here and trashed here?

Did you not read the conclusion or what is there to ask privately again?

Were you expecting him to say otherwise in private?

All the same, people are watching those associating with dubious elements.

Show me your friend and I will tell you who you are is an evergreen adage.

You're an adult, so I won't tell you what to do, but there's a reward for every action /inaction.

Have a nice day.

There are so many ways to go about this
And your money will come out in less than a week.

First of all
Your lawyer will write a letter to him, giving him 7 days notice.
Secondly you contact instablog, Tunde ednut gistlover and paste those notice to them to post for you. Shikini money, then take him to court. Your lawyer can lay emphasis on the fact that this is not the first time he has treated people that way with solid examples.
If your lawyer is good.
Your money will come out. Ensure your lawyer puts in interest for days he won't pay.
Let the court or police men be the one to collect your money for you, or let him pay to your lawyers bank account..
If all the above no work.

Travel to ijebu ode or ijebu Igbo
And do the needful there.

Listen to your lawyer sha.

somehow:
As long as your own belly is full, you don't care how the "recommender" acted or who he hurt in the process right?

You have never called him out even after seeing everything laid on the table but when you're ropped with him, you start denying like you did before.

Money is not everything, people are watching everyone and seeing beyond our posts on this "not-so-faceless" forum.

You are behaving like a kid.
Not everyone will do your bidding bro.

There are associates of anini who have benefited and still see him as a Messiah.

You can't rope anyone into supporting you or following your claim.
You are either too emotional or just been a kid.
At this rate it looks like you are begging him to pay your money.
Your claim is very very valid.
You have his address and his number.
He has shown you times without number that he is either not willing to pay or will delay your payment till you forget. Or the money becomes useless.

I hope you know that your 2m naira as at 6 months or so is not same amount now.
By the time he even pays you the money would have become useless.
You just come online and rant daily that you are working on something offline, then turn back to beg him stylishly to pay your money.
You can't have 2m outside and be begging from it from someone that has a bad history and reputation.
Policemen will be damn happy to retrieve your money for you.
Lawyers will jump on your case.
You only need to waste max of 300k to retrieve your money. If you are lucky, court or police station will even make sure you get the money you wasted in the case.

But coming online, pleading for your money is not going to bring it out.
The more time you waste stylishly begging for the money that belongs to you. The more you lose your chances of collecting it back.
Shalom

folmus:
I might help you ask those living there 24/7.
We do see light most time we go there.

Thank you
Pls I will be waiting for your reply

folmus:
I think electricity is not bad in the area, of course you can't rule out the Nigerian factor.

I understand you boss
I just wanna have an idea of how many hours per day.
Like in some areas
You can get 12 hrs daily.
Other areas 18 hrs daily.
I am so sorry if my questions are too much

folmus:
Hahahaha.

To be honest, Poka is a fast-developing area in Epe. I didn't deal with all these expensive Estates selling hinterland at extremely exorbitant fee . I wish I had sufficient fund. I would have gone for more than a plot.

Daddy
Pls how is the power supply in epe
Especially poka ?

sonnie10:
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Go back and read that my last post, this time slowly and tell me what you really make out of it.
Can you repost the picture of the external wall again now that it must have been dry. I want to check something.
Do me a favor, place a bottle on the window hood and snap the picture. Thanks.

If I may ask, how exactly were you expecting him to get doors worth almost #200k with #88k deposit other than from the money you would pay him at completion of job.
The subtotal of contract, that is minus the amount for doors is not even up to the cost of doors alone.
How else does advanced fee fraud work?

Are you his mouth piece ?
Is he a kid ?


You are just defending rubbish


why did he collect 88k out of 200k if he knew it won't do much
Why will he collect the money.

Why will he tell his client that job has already started on the doors , then return weeks letter to cancel

Why will he dubiously try to use clients door frames after client already paid for those door frames.

if 88k was not gonna be enough for the doors he has a right to not collect a dime or insist on a higher amount
But you are here blaming client for paying 88k instead of blaming the contractor who collected 88k, lied that job is already ongoing and still tried to dubiously use frames that he collected money for.

Alaye
YOU ARE BIASED

sonnie10:
This here is exactly why I wished luck in his future endeavors here. Not even up a day, he has been quoted out of context.
I fact remains that he said that out of anger for being asked an obvious question.

Sir
You are obviously defending him
It's so obvious


Are you there with him for you to know if he said that out of anger or not.
Pls stop trying to change the narrative

Imagine creating excuse for him

He should defend himself not you.
You are just creating excuses for him.

What do you have to say about the substandard work then
What excuse do you have for that

sonnie10:
In a typical Nigerian voice and manner, how would you respond to someone asking you about doors which was already refunded?
Would you be upset if someone ask you about that again?

There is difference between
did I collect money for door?
And
did I not refund the door money ?

Thank you sir for your time
I am not saying anything again over this issue
Goodnight sir

sonnie10:
Would it not have been easier if you showed where rotech denied any of these claims as evident in the receipt and including where he denied collecting part parment for doors?

It’s a slippery slop to accept every claim just because someone said so first.

Here

sonnie10:
There you go again. “ he said his phone lost” I have said before that we cannot go by words of mouth.
Secondly I believe I must have missed the part where rotecch denied collecting part payment for doors.

Lastly, in any matter it is the accuser’s duty to proof his case.

On a side note, a wise joke I heard somewhere. When you give a condemned person an option to point to where he would like to be buried after execution, he is most likely to spend a whole life time searching for a right spot

Sir
He brought receipts of transactions
People lost chats from time to time.
He brought pictures of the Said building.
Why can't the vendor post the contract and other things to show that he didn't goof here.
I am not trying to paint rotech bad here sir.
But I am not just trying to make us put more pain into the victims wounds.we both should agree that rotech did a poor job of handling this case.
From insults to
I am not saying a dime word on this issue again.

We
I mean we
We
All of us. 99.9999 if us are bad
This is the one and only reason why Nigeria keeps failing.
We are bad as a people
And bad individually.
We are all bad and very bad
We are thieves
And me inclusive.
When I say we are all
I mean 99.999 of us.
Which means virtually all of us.

Yesterday I was in a discussion with some people and we talk on how a civil servant in osun state returned part of his salary to pay for the day he was absent from work(his child naming ceremony). When aregbe heard about him, he called the man to give him a political post, the man still declined the appointment, on the basis that he did what he was meant to do and nothing extra.

We all laughed and insulted this great Alfa.
This is how bad we are.

If not for stories.
Billions would have been flowing through nairaland property section per year.

sonnie10:
Right here sir.
We cannot conclude from just words of mouth.
There must be supporting evidence.
The only time words of mouth can be accepted is in a stituation when both parties agree on a certain fact. For instance, they both agree on the amount that was paid for the basin and doors. They also agree on the amount that was refunded albeit a difference of 5k.

physical job and materials are involved here, so circumstantial edivrnce is not really necessary in getting to the truth.

Did you read the part where he said he lost his phone and WhatsApp chats ??

Did you also read the part where he gave express permission for rotech to post their chats


Initially
Rotech denied that there was even any talk about doors and there was nothing like doors in their discussion
Until the man brought out receipts