₦airaland Forum

Governors wey sabi.
One would imagine that the northern state governors would be at the forefront of agitating for this measures because of how hard hit their states are by terrorism. But no, they won't. They blame the Federal government while seeking more security allocations. Zero proactive measures or advocacy for such measures.

advanceDNA:
False??
As usual...y'all lie a lot ...u can't even answer the question...because the fact is y'all can't even preach what u claim u are...

Is ur prophet who started it a lie...
All the caliphate spreading violence all the way to Europe....is it a lie...
In Africa is Usman dan fodio a lie ...
Isis and Alqada .in the middle east...are they all lies.....well done sir.....

U don't preach but u want to spread Islam... Through......civilization will eventually end y'all because there is really no place in the world for a religion that results to killing for any small thing.....

Fact:
Islam has spread more through non military conquest than through military conquests. These efforts were led by muslim saints, scholars and ambassadors who voyaged or journeyed into other countries and regions. No amount of posts on Nairaland can change this.

Fact:
Wars were fought against rulers who prevented God's word from reaching the people. It is necessary practice in Islam to deliver its message to the people. So those confrontations were inevitable during the eras of fiefdoms. There are many muslim centres and outreach posts today all over Europe and America who are responsible for the increasing spread of Islam in these continents.

Terrorism is a different thing entirely. Terrorists only seek forceful control. It doesn't help any faith to spread. We know the sources of the terrorism agenda into Islam. The face they want to give of it for Islam and the evil hands behind it.

advanceDNA:
Muslims evangelism...?? Lol... hahahaha!!!

When was the last time u or ur friends or any Muslims u know preached the gospel of Islam to anyone or an unbeliever for that matter??
U have no missionaries that preach...u don't preach in campus, u don't preach on streets, ...y'all are not even taught to do so in ur Islamic schools or mosque ...but y'all want Islamic state..

The truth is ....y'all leave the establishment of Islamic state to the hands if radical Muslims among you who do it by force.....u codedly want the lesser jihad but pretend u are not a party to the violence...

That's how ur prophet did it till.mecca fell ....that's how ottoman caliphate did it until he was stopped at the gates of Vienna in 1683...its the same force and violence Usman danfodio did it.....
Y'all can't achieve anything without violence....look around Europe.....u have tried to use immigration and birthing to increase ur number to force laws in ur favour ....when it ddnt work ..y'all have started violence.all over France, Germany, etc....those peaceful nations are regretting they allowed Muslims through their borders......Poland literaly said they will never allow Muslims immigrants into their land because y'all come in and start asking for laws that will oppress ur host...m

As far as the historical facts show that Islam has spread more and durably so through non military conquests than through military conquests, then much of what you have written there is false. Trying to sound correct does not mean being correct.

wellmax:
So why are you worried.

Sorry how did I express worry?

Nobody is trying to Islamise you, focus on your church jor. Islam doesn't need terrorists to appeal to peoples hearts neither are these terrorists helping Islam as well. If anything, they have constituted the major stumbling block to true muslim evangelism.

Besides ipob, the other extremist groups he is pointing out largely subscribe to the radical interpretation of Islam that he (this Gumi) and his late father (Gumi) had helped championed in Nigeria.

So this is not a tribe categorisation problem, rather it is a radicalisation problem that he himself is complicit for. Psy op being attempted here by this man.

franchasofficia:
I still wonder what young, educated and enlightened people are doing in Islam.


That religion is for the lowest grade of humans who are born savages with no progressive thinking and mindset.


In 2025, no young, educated and enlightened person should be proud to call himself or herself a Muslim

Why do you say so when in 2025 top intellectuals or achievers from around the world (including Nigeria) who are at the summit of enlightenment are turning to Islam and finding peace of heart and reconciliation with raison d'etre of human existence?

This is very low coming from Peter Obi.
If we truly want Nigeria to get better then the influential people should not let terrorists take cover behind their backs when their own people is involved. By this, he is no different from the people in the north that are being suspected to be terrorist sponsors or sympathiser. This is all so wrong.

Thank you oga kperogi
This piece could literally be converted into a national action plan against insecurity and it shall work with a surgical precision.

This governor has been asking the right questions.
Let's uncover the saboteurs within our security system. From there we shall know their collaborators as well. I commend him for having the guts to challenge the defence system openly with frank questions.
Thank you Sir dear governor.

This pattern of attacks and kidnappings show that there is a command structure to these attacks coordinating the next targets in order to send a message out there. The current Nigeria security architecture is demonstrably incapable of dealing with these kinds of crises. I think there are too many points of failure in the current response design:

A location is about to come under attack, the local government chairman in that location notifies the governor perhaps after inhabitants have notified him of the imminent dangers due to unusual movements around the area or the area is already under attack also. The governor notifies the military command that is closest to his state, the senior officer in that command notifies the command at the federal level. The command at the federal level decides whether it should give the military command closest to the state the order to act or not and the command closest to that state decides to act or not depending on several factors that affect readiness. As a result, the points of failure is just too many. Besides the cumbersomeness of the process which could jeopardise the urgency that is needed to address an attack on defenceless civilians, a saboteur at a point along this disjointed chain of commands can render the whole process worthless of delivering an effective counter response.

So why not put the security of the people in their own hands?. So that the people themselves can go into execution mode immediately in the event of the breach of their peace instead of waiting endlessly for a flawed and disjointed structure. Call it whatever you want to call it: state police, regional security, this or that guards etc. Let the people themselves be empowered to take care of their own safety wherever they are. Isn't it so evident to the blind to see that this is what these terrorist are happily taking advantage of. Empower the people to put these urchins under a counter-attack and watch them vanish into thin air!!!

Flows001:
You all will ALWAYS defend the indefensible 😅😅

"No compulsion in religion", yet Sharia Law still practices APOSTACY?? Explain that CONTRADICTION!

How comes you claim that you allow freedom, and yet still turn back and kill anyone who tries to exercise such freedom by leaving??

Not surprised, you call yourselves "Peaceful" after all..


Meanwhile, here are two SURAS from the quran for you, more to come..

SURA 9:123 of the quran says:

"O believers! FIGHT the disbelievers around you and let them find firmness in you. And know that Allah is with those mindful ˹of Him˺.


In the same light, SURA 2:191 of the quran says:

"KILL them wherever you come upon them and drive them out of the places from which they have driven you out. For persecution is far worse than killing. And do not fight them at the Sacred Mosque unless they attack you there. If they do so, then fight them that is the reward of the disbelievers".

Come and pour out more taqqiyas😃

But isn't it only fair that regions where Islam has become the official law of the state to have their own rules? It is, of course. Because that is a step above being just a personal law now. It only apply applies where the sharia is the highest authority of the land. In that case, if you want to openly recant your muslim faith under this system, you are required to move out of the place and do so. It doesn't prevent people of other faith from living in that muslim adjudicated land. In other words, it is a faith based treason to openly renounce your faith under such a system since it will have to be done or shown openly for it to be known anyway.

Quran 9:123
O believers! Fight the disbelievers around you and let them find firmness in you. And know that Allah is with those mindful ˹of Him˺

As the muslims face mounting challenges from far and near, they were, as a matter of strategy advised to focus on the near enemies. It has nothing to do with showing aggression toward people.

Quran 2:190
Fight in the cause of Allah ˹only˺ against those who wage war against you, but do not exceed the limits.1 Allah does not like transgressors.

Did you cleverly omit that?

Quran 2:191
Kill them wherever you come upon them and drive them out of the places from which they have driven you out. For persecution is far worse than killing. And do not fight them at the Sacred Mosque unless they attack you there. If they do so, then fight them—that is the reward of the disbelievers.

Isn't it abundantly clear from these that the muslims were forbidden from being the aggressor? And that they were only commanded to stand firm and fight against their persecutors? Why do you people like twisting up the Quranic verses?

Flows001:
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SURA 9:29 of the Quran says:
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If you read scholarly articles, you'd realise that sincerely speaking these wars were fought along the line of defence. Before that, the muslims had practically been on the run: from ostracising them to them having to emigrate to ethiopia and then to medina. So they were now being commanded to stand their ground and fight if war arrives on their doorstep. Scholars have also explained that this particular verse was revealed before the battle of Tabuk which played out as follows: the christian army who started the battle maneuvering and advanced toward the northern fringes of Arabia but chickened out when they realise that they were up against a formidable opponent. As a result the muslims only won an influence advantage in the region and they didn't use the advantage to kill even a single christians population that lived around the theatre of the war. Yes, in the verse, reference was made to previous wars fought against idolaters, which again were along this defensive lines. Because even after bouncing the muslims about, up to Medina, it was still the polytheists, who sent an army to fight the muslims for those wars.

The position of Islam is that there is no compulsion in religion. Maintain your lane and I maintain mine. Terrorists can never define Islam.

Why do some government official always go to the media to give terrorists an update of the status during an ongoing rescue effort. Shouldn't there be a sanction against this apparent breach of the code of conduct of military operations?

You need to understand the governor clearly so that you do not judge him wrongly. That is, nobody comes to you ask you are you Fulani and if not kills you. Equally too, nobody comes to you and ask are you a muslim and if not kills you. This is this the interpretation people of hidden agenda against the Nigerian state want to bring into it instead of addressing the issue as it is, which is, some deviants who want to force their ideologies on others albeit wrongly and people involved in armed conflicts over land and resources.

Thank you dear governor.

Phenomenal!

But getting a 404 just to try and land on the veefin website...
https://www.veefin.com/

osuofia2:
Which are Allah? The same people committing the atrocities are foot soldiers of the allah

No they are not foot soldiers of Allah Almighty (if that's what you meant to type). Neither is their actions intended to help or expand Islam.

May Allah guide the President with the insights to unravel and resolve the security challenges in this country.
I believe in your abilities dear Jagaban and I believe you occupy a unique spot in history to be able to handle this.
You will not fail! Insha Allah!!

Ameen.

This yoruba soup that people like to mock, gbegiri and ewedu, is actually a super affordable lifestyle that manages this condition. I think their elders somehow discovered this in the past and made it a staple. Wise people.

advanceDNA:
Oh ..so religion must get to the people??

Yes.

advanceDNA:
so violence and force us is the next thing by physical jihad??

No.

Here is how it works: if the earthly kings and rulers allow the message to get passed to the people, no problems. And when the message get to the people, that's all. No forceful conversion. If the rulers did not allow the message, then there is a problem. Because the message must get to the people because it is God's plan for the people. That is why Prophets are appointed by God for this purpose. The Prophet (or his deputies) will put the earthly kings and rulers in their place (with divine assistance) and get the message to the people.

advanceDNA:
Christians go and preach..pple refuse....do they start physical jihad??

The people did not stop there: they wrote their own book and gave it to the church.


Several countries with large Muslim populations, particularly in Southeast Asia and parts of Africa, had Islam introduced primarily through peaceful means like trade and the work of Sufi missionaries, rather than military conquest.

Southeast Asia:
Indonesia: Home to the world's largest Muslim population, Islam spread throughout the Indonesian archipelago largely through the influence of Arab and Indian Muslim traders, who established communities in coastal areas. The local rulers converted for economic and political reasons and their subjects followed suit, a process aided by cultural assimilation and the efforts of scholars and Sufis (such as the Wali Songo on Java).

Nine Saints of Java:
Wali Songo, "Nine Saints" in Arabic and Javanese, refers to the group of revered saints credited with spreading Islam in Indonesia, particularly on the island of Java, during the 15th and 16th centuries.

Malaysia and Brunei: Similar to Indonesia, Islam was introduced through trade and intermarriage. The rulers of key port cities and sultanates (like the Sultanate of Malacca) converted, which facilitated the spread of the religion throughout the population without major battles.

Africa:
Mali, Senegal, Ghana, and Nigeria (initially): In West Africa, Islam was primarily spread by Berber and Arab trans-Saharan traders. The local populations and rulers, such as those of the Ghana and Mali empires, adopted Islam through peaceful interaction and trade benefits, often integrating it with local culture.

Swahili Coast (East Africa): Along the East African coast, cities like Mombasa, Zanzibar, and Dar es Salaam saw Islam flourish through centuries of maritime trade and the establishment of merchant colonies, again, without significant initial military conquest by outside Muslim armies.

In these regions, the spread of Islam was a gradual process, characterized by commercial contacts, intermarriage, and the preaching of Sufi scholars, allowing for local adaptation and a unique form of Islamic civilization to flourish.

Ottoman caliphate
The majority of Bulgarians did not convert to Islam under the Ottoman Empire primarily due to the Ottoman state's official policy of religious tolerance towards non-Muslims, the autonomy of the Orthodox Church, and the nature of Bulgarian society, which was predominantly rural. Conversion to Islam was a choice for individuals, not a systematically enforced policy across the general population. Considering that this is a country where the Ottomans rule over for ovr 400 years. So where is the forcefulness? Then in Romania, close to Bulgari, read about saint Sari Saltik Babadeg and how he spread Islam to over a quarter of that country

I can see much of your opinions are formed by conflicts in recent years (though unfortunate) and not by genuine historical facts.

They didn't at least demand that other faiths can not have music and they didn't directly call for its cancellation. This implies that they don't want the music classes for their wards. The word 'cancellation' was used as an opinion of the media house, which could be right when you consider that the ministry dropped the positions. Perhaps the education board could have reduced its scope to the less than 10% who may want it. Either way, the muslims have not coerced any entity as you had painted it.

advanceDNA:
there was no islamic law any where in Nigeria before or after independence until 1992

Before Nigeria's independence, Islamic law (Sharia) was a functioning legal system in the northern parts of the country, particularly within the Sokoto Caliphate, which applied to both civil and criminal matters. Following the British conquest, a hybrid system was created, where colonial rule maintained Sharia courts for civil matters like marriage and inheritance, but the British penal code replaced criminal aspects under the "indirect rule" system
(Simply googling this can help you here)

advanceDNA:
Striving to be a better self as been translated to making any state they are an Islamic state.....it is believed u cannot be ur better self unless u have shariah and the country is an Islamic state like Saudi...

The "greater jihad" is a concept from a famous hadith where Prophet Muhammad distinguishes between the "lesser jihad" (military struggle) and the "greater jihad" (the internal spiritual struggle). According to this tradition, the greater jihad is the more important and difficult struggle against one's own ego, passions, selfishness, and evil desires. It is a way to emphasize the importance of inner spiritual warfare over physical conflict.

Where this path has been followed, muslims have been a lot more successful and influential. Take senegal for example. No extremism, no radical ideologies, no controversial scholars, no war mongers etc. The result: peace and excellent people and tolerance yet stronger Islam. This is the same thing in many muslim locations around the world. In fact, Nigeria was like this before. Largely peaceful co-existence among the faiths. Those who are sensitive to these issues knew when things started getting skewed. The result is what we are witnessing today.

advanceDNA:
Religion should be a personal thing btw u and God....

But that religion needs to get to the people to start with. And obstacles were posed by the power holders of those era to religious (information) dissemination. This was the reason for the physical jihad during that era. In fact, scholars are of the opinion that once there are no obstacles, then physical jihad is not necessary. Those battles emanated from these obstacles.

advanceDNA:
Sir.......U are still trying to justify Islamic oppression and force.....and this is why we have problem all over the world where there are muslims ....
because it's the same pattern of wanting only your own views to stand......your own court despite existing courts, your own Islamic law despite existing state law....your own shariah police despite existing country police

The country is not an Islamic state...even if there are more Muslims....it is still a mixed state covered by democratic laws ....how will u feel if other pple come asking for cancelation of Islamic studies...?? jihad(struggle) will start and beheading

No they didn't say that only their own view must stand. They only said that they don't want it for themselves. Perhaps, the board thought it wise to not deploy resources for it again given that the popular view is against it.

I assume you are referring to Nigeria for the other points. But come to think of it, these Islamic laws have been with the people in those areas before the arrival of the laws backed by the colonial powers. So whose values was getting pushed aside?

jihad, as correctly put is struggle (striving to be your better self). But it does not mean beheading. That is terrorism. In reality, jihad is more personal than confrontational. Terrorists gave it a whole new meaning.

advanceDNA:
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Please answer truthfull.. Can't Islamic studies and music co exist in the school........u pretended as if u ddnt see where they call another subject anti-islam??
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Of course both studies can coexist in the school technically. But this is a country of predominantly muslims, over 90%. So their laws are bound to be influenced by Islam, which disapproves of music. So if over 90% of a country's citizenry does not approve of learning it, of what use is putting it there and making them learn it? If muslims were making this demand in a place like in the UK, then of course it is out of place for them to do so.

Ever8090:
there is nothing spiritual ...
There was a moment he killed a woman's husband, her father and brother and married her, ...

Small advice na im you go dey write project? Well, my only prayer is that may God guide you if you are indeed a sincere seeker.

But just to pick one out of the several flaws in your writing.

"There was a moment he killed a woman's husband, her father and brother and married her."

Facts:
Her relatives got kpaid in a battle which they had willfully participated in and which their army had preplanned with over 10,000 ground forces. It's not like muslims invaded their homes and kpaid them.

She chose to marry the Prophet (s.a.w.) of her own free will.
She was taken captive after the battle but during profiling her noble status became apparent at which point she was offerred to go back to her people freed or convert and marry the Prophet. She chose the latter option. This was actually a risk for the Prophet (s.a.w.) but it proved to be beneficial in the long run in rebuilding the relationship between the two parties as it ended further wars that could have been fought.

Ever8090:
Omo...I almost joined this religion some time ago ooooo...chai.... God thank you for saving me...thank you lord Jesus Christ

If you attach yourself spiritually to the true teachings of Jesus and his lifestyle, it will lead you back to Islam again. The enemies of Islam have placed a smokescreen on it through evil machinations such as misrepresentations, outright lies and devious state manipulations with active collaborators from within. That is what you are seeing now because that is what they want you to see. But in there (Islam) is the ultimate truth.

The lady that was killed is a muslim.
The soldiers she was supporting through her work are muslims.
So don't the Islam of these people count too?
Why are people taking the actions of others who have lent themselves to terrorism and who could be under foreign sponsorship, as Islam.
Have people really lost the ability to connect the dots due to hate?

SIRTee15:
This is the story from a Bangladesh news agency. Both PE and music were banned.

I understand if u are ashamed of your religion but don't deny the truth that comes out from your religion.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dhakatribune.com/amp/bangladesh/court/396053/hc-questions-legality-of-scrapping-music-physical

May be you need to reread the news once again to understand it better.

The school board introduced more positions under music and physical education in a single communication. The people protested against that release on the grounds that schools were lacking in enough religious instructors but instead of addressing that issue, the ministry is adding extra position for music teachers.

"Various religious and political organizations raised objections, demanding the creation of religious teacher positions instead of music teachers, and launched protests."

Then as a result of these protests, the communication was withdrawn.

So the people's grouse was against the bringing in of more music teachers and not particularly against physical education which was contained in the bulletin as well. The people know what they wanted and they know where their distaste was. But when the enemy wants to attack and smear Islam, they know how to deliver the combo to front their mischief. Only discerning eyes are able to see through most times and there's nothing to be ashamed of.

Apparently it is music that is getting banned.
They are only using the physical education aspect to spice up the story.
Islam prohibits unbridled mixing of males and females and not physical education. You guys always looking for a way to misrepresent Islam.

Russia simply bowed to the power that prevails in the world as at now. They have no choice but to accept the visit when Sharaa had met Trump with approval several times before meeting Putin and has now visited the white house and France and Saudi prior. What options do you think that Putin really has? So whoever thinks America is going to fall soon will need to rethink it again, They may be ailing but they still possess the far reaching and superior influence than any country in the world. A country that has other countries as their foot soldiers will require more than just ailing to fall. That is the advantage that they have to make others fall in line. But at the end of the day, they are an evil country anyway.

Turkey/Istanbul doesn't tolerate his kind of perspectives on Islamic matters.
This is more of a photo ops for image galvanization.
Hope he doesn't cross the lines while there.
Infact, he could be getting himself exposed for easy pick up as it stands.

That is an example of how the west's deep state operate in full cycle. They will raise terrorists to give Islam a bad name. Have the media trumpet to the high heavens their devilish ideas which they attribute to Islam errorneously but deliberately. Use the terrorists to cause havoc in muslim lands and project that image to the world in order to turn humanity (high percentage of gullible people) against muslims. If these devils succeed they are rewarded with the muslim lands and you won't even see anything indicative of Islam in them again thereafter, same people that were hitherto shouting "Allahu Akbar" while harming innocent people. If they did not succeed or renege, the west will move in themselves to start taking them out one after another.

At the end of the day the goal is the same, destroy the only standing religion that gives humanity morality and purpose and turn humanity into money worshipping capitalists devoid of any sense of morality.