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Nice both we don't consider them africans enough....they of mixed race

OMANBALA1:
"people like me"....sound like you are trying to superimpose an already made structure on me. Madam,easy. You barely know me. Meanwhile, you belong to the mix race category....anything not more than 90% black is not black to me...am I not being fair. I could say 100% like the whites and Asians.

However, miss, I know you can always find a weak minded black man who worships mixed race kids and put them on a pedestal...smile because you will never run out of love...and you know what I meant...init ?

You been to cold on her ....she is african too she is not the cause of our mental backwardness we are ....

I really don't fancy mixed kids ...i just feel they neither here or there ....but they are beautiful ...even if we dont regard her as a black woman we still regard her as human and a pretty mixed lady both race can have...

OMANBALA1:
Ok. But dont misunderstand me because everyday I see black men putting white and mixed race women on the pedestal over our black women and it eats me up...i hate it to my bone marrow!

One love, blood.

Yea....especially the blacks americans who dumps thier black ladies as soon they have made it....

Anyway a time will come when the measure of your dark skin amount to one's true africanism .....if hitler had an idea for the real germans then we will have an idea for the real blacks if you're not dark enough will kick them out .....

That will stop this mental slavery we have with light skin people.....
#iloveitdark

So the yorubas and thier obas have been feeding both the binis and the igbos counterpart lies ....

Intresting nothing is ever hidden in the sun

Where is that popular olu317 guy on culture related news he should come and defend this facts we nigerians have had enough of thier lies and cunny attitude both in political affairs and cultural affairs

OMANBALA1:
Niggaz amaze me...you stood there and told us how much you love black women but as soon as a chic with mixed blood shows up you punked out...weak azz nigga. I put it to you, you will marry a white girl if you have the opportunity. This chic you are shamelessly drooling over doesn't look anything like an ideal black woman. Amara la negra is a black woman!!

Typical black man put ppussy ahead of everything.....and you just saw a face that is probably padded with make up, she could be ugly. Secondly, you haven't seen her physique.....you embody one of the problem of black men....ppussy whooped!

Calm down....am just commencing her beauty regardless of skin colour that wont make go for a white skin girl over a black skin girl ...am just been a man by appreciating her beauty....nothing more

IntrovertedK:
thanks for this. Virtually all ijaw (alepo or so) have yoruba names and speak yoruba fluently though they are well respected in ondo state, the news after english and yoruba language is always been read in their language on our state channel (i.e OSRC) and they have their own separate local government rule and run by ijaw for ijaws. Thanks again

It will be helpfull to them, if they speak benin as thier second language and bear benin names attach to thier other names then the discrimination will be eliminated but bearing an Igbo name to claim anything in the state will prompt thier discrimination the culture of the benin people, frowns at it
From the very beginning. benin people practice a very reserved kind of culture no other tribes practice ....

If they can go with that option they should do thier thing to thier people in delta state since geographical they are not close to benin sice its only politically

MelesZenawi:
They are like Brothers and sisters.

Inseparable twins.

Stop trying to tear such apart with divisive narratives.

I don't like it.

The binis who have yoruba names got thier names as a result of slave trade they had with the yoruba people back in the benin empire and they almost lost their identity untill oba akenzua called for thier return to help him build the fallen city after the British invasion....

Unlike the Yoruba's with benin ancestory is pure conquering and subjugation

odaniel1:
The Binis shd have known and cut them off from the outset. Unless your forefathers had ulterior gains in 'forcefully' acquiring their territory. Simple boundary adjustment. As for the Deltans in general, i blame their forefathers for mixing with the binis and almost forgetting the similarity of their pidgin-ibo and conventional ibo language. Their indecision is the result we see today!

Tell that to thier fore fathers the people who drew the map of edo and Delta smoked some shisha

Thatssobeyonce:
Yup nd my dad is Fulani

No wonder you have a very pointed nose... Despite a nigerian dad....

But we dont like the fulanis over here they have cost us everything

If not for nairaland i for don sell my andriod phone for one plate of ukworbi

Ceoking6:
False, igueben people are a tribe that speaks more Bini than esan, they couldn't be accepted into full Bini but they are accepted as full esan in esanland yet they retain their distinctive language.


Esans are more accommodating to other tribes than you think.

In fact Augustus Aikhomu was VP under ibb when bendel was divided, maryam his wife decided to make her hometown of asaba as capital against the popular warri.

She asked aikhomu to move Edo capital to esan central but aikhomu was more accommodating as an esan

Youre correct my mistake ....

The binins are pridefull people
And love the fact that every edo see benins as thier head regardless of political power kudos to the esan vp

But in my comment i was not talking about forcefully telling them to speak i was only saying that they way the esan speakcthier dialect would had indirectly force them to speak esan if am not wrong

I think the binis in edos have always been politically under the mercy of other edo groups and they are ones who would discriminate other edo people ....
But in they still see all as one

Frankdoz5:
That's why we must continue to push for boundary adjustment, we can't leave igbanke Igbo's to Bini people.

To make things easier they can reside in benin and do thier politically activities towards thier people in delta state if they wont marginalized them too...for the local govt of origin certificate it should be gotten in delta state to make things easier
....the governor may one day restructure you guys to delta state once more

MelesZenawi:
They don't want to be seen as benins.

is it a crime.

Ok....and it is clear they are not we see th as igbake but they are still not satisfy


The cause of remaining igbake had made them recognized but they ard still screaming that they are not represented in the palace or given political appointment when geographically they are in edos but ethnically they are igbankes

So they should shove it thier ass and stop disturbing us we are not putting guns to tell them to speak bini

Frankdoz5:
you made a very good point," what our leaders are doing when igbanke was included in Edo state ", its due to greedines of our leaders, they only care for their pocket but suggesting igbanke should embrace Bini culture is insane. An Igbo man is known to be domineering, so Igbo culture can never submit to that of bini's.

If they simply had been submissive things woukd have been more easier and we will see them as one the coral beads they are wearing is not a benin bead they should pull it of first before they can speak
The wise men would simply summit and stop this forthcoming i still dont know what
Culture at this present tims holds for them

If they are going to fighf it they will still loose because edo are in high places at federal level they better wait for biafra

MelesZenawi:
Sounds like oppression.

Soon they will protest the injustice.

And what will it lead them...political appointment ...you are causing more harm to them simply advice them to migrate or summit after all sowore is an ijaw who bears yoruba name and speak yoruba despite is ijaw....

Thier agitation is simply not going to do them good

Smoke55:
oga No Be Fight Nah,just A Simple Question "is Your Brain Leaking Oil"? And You Are Insulting Me This Early Morning? You Expected An Ethnic Group To Abandon Their Cultural Heritage Just Because They Were Carved Out To Join You? Now They Should Change Their Names? Is It Edo State Or Bini State?

Oga and am also saying your head is full of smoke nor be quarrel ....
Its in your moniker

Mind you. have you had your weed today
If no ,pls dont take it ...its not good for your health

Oga come fight the fight for them minster of culture ....since is speaking ones dialect that is worrying you now or the fallen country

MelesZenawi:
The land is theirs and belongs to them.

Hmm...ok then the should bid to be cutoff from benin and no more the fault isnt coming from the benins they were included to edo state what was thier father's doing when they included them to edo

The peaceful way out is for them to adopt the benin culture and stop fighting it .because there is no way out except they return back to thier original state to join thier clan ...

MelesZenawi:
Let's start here

what is the meaning of eweka in Benin?

Eweka is a benin name it has no meaning it was a coined name

Literally it was one of the oba names in Benin

Smoke55:
is Your Brain Leaking Oil?

No your brain is full of smoke like your moniker you better stop taking weed

Sovereignty in another Man's land you they mad .....

Tunder fire you....

Go back to enugu or were you came from you alll are confused or you all could wait for biafra to be archieved and then cry to them this issues
If thesame people wont deniel they want benins

MelesZenawi:
This sounds more like Idi Amin.

So they should drop their names , answer Benin names and speak Benin and forget about their language?

Ohh yea or they can keep their names and migrate to enugu....
. they really dont know what they want or maybe is the o.p that dont know what he wants ....

MelesZenawi:
So the rumour is true...


How can you guys be maltreating others or forcing them to accept what they don't want?

Whatever they say, they are speaking as language, allow them to be....


Who carved them to yoruba state (Edo state) no try. It should have been delta.

It should have been delta state they should have carved with ....

I dont know how they arrived at edo state self

Benins are benevolent enough if it was the esan part of edo they settled they should have lost thier ethnic identies since inception the benins are known not to force people to thier language
It will be good for them to to loose it and stop disturbing themselves with unnecessary worries because they want to pride themselves with thier own identity at another mans land

Sowore is ijaw but have a yoruba name speaks yoruba but identify as ijaw ...

We are not maltreating anyone they are maltreating themselves
"if you leave in Rome behave like a roman"

MelesZenawi:
I have already disproved that, moreover eko or ondo bears or have similar names with Benin eg Tunde...this shows no matter what there existed an influence here before and I fully agree.


But over here, no such name or anything to show for such relationship, just a make up story believe to be true....Get my point.

If there exist any such influence, the people must have even the tinniest of Benin name here...like eko and others do not just a story believe to be so ...

Obi is kingship is similar to oba
Iweka is similar to eweka

It happened this man didnt migrate from benin directly but from one of ika regions of delta state where the obaship was existing
So he was already having an Igbo name but with an edo monarchy system
The said man never knew benin at all he only happened to have practise the Benin monarchy system which he learnt at his himetown in delta state
So when he got to onitscha he simply blended to the igbo part of delta state and enacted the edo monarchy system

Benin documented alot but no benin document reveal there had contact with onitscha people

Now this were I tell you culture is spread

Make una waka go back to were una come from hmmm...we binis we dont need you ...

There cant be any other ethnic group of origin in benin, than the benin people is either you all accept it or you all takes to you heels to deltastate or any eastern state where you origin can be traced and welcomed, why fight for sovereignty in another mans land when you could easily get it when you migrate to your ownland....

MelesZenawi:
Iweka and eweka are two different meaning....So don't try to bring such logic of name correlarion, that's infatuation of lazy researchers who was just looking were to hook their lapses in finding results.


Before the arrival of said prince as I mentioned, kingdoms have been existing and new yam festival in existence. So is obvious the arrivees integrated and assimilated the culture of new yam festival. As far as kingdoms were existing before such arrival...your proof remains invalid.

Finally staff handed by who to who? Conquest of old might have changed political/cultural equations but not to that extreme.

please limit this your claim of influence and migration.

Why don't these people answer even at least one Benin name in the names...why all Igbo names.?

At Least each name suppose to bear at least one Benin name to show at least a relationship existed here before.

Like the eko monarchs bear a benin name or ondo or england bear a roman name....

Your pride is foolish but before it will be acceptable disprove it first and don't be lazy creat a topic put your reaserch findings outside that swallow the bitter truth....

Because the benin monarch didn't bear a benin name doesn't make him not a benin man ....as soon as he is enthroned he loses is name and bears another different name that he will be known with till he dies

Lastly the coral beads worn by the eastern men does that make coral beads come from the east and not benin ?
or the female traditional marriage wears in the east with red coral beads does it make the dressing pattern come from the east

Am not taking pride in this but if you are feel free to disprove it ...it will help instead of making claims

MelesZenawi:
And here you got it wrong.

Other kingdom has existed and has been practicing yam festival before onitsha came.


Onitsha been vassal to Benin is mere believe or assimilation and more like a sterotype passed on over years.

Benin might have seen such in other kingdoms and borrowed it during their period of conquest.

After all olden days warriors who like others traditions takes it as their own.

Hmm...hmm i see youre an igbo

A prince migrated and became king in onitscha and implementt this cultures in onitscha they are words like
Iweka in onitscha and in Benin is eweka
If you have no tangible prove to disprove the fact then don't try and argue it ,because this

yam festival was born from a rainforest culture culture which happen to be in benin the raining season ends about nov or october then igue commense to celebrate a new yam festival and a new year..
If you want to pride yourself with igbotic ego then feel free to give your account with full prove and will i accept it untill then accept this

I dont see were you're going to argue from when the king in onitscha holds a Benin royal staff

MelesZenawi:
Your research is centered on Benin not stretched.

Igue festival is more of Benin history not purely yam festival.


I might agree ondo, ekiti may have stolen igue or whatever from you but others am sorry to outrightly disagree.

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Culture is dynamic ....someone start it ,and others who like it follow ....just like the coral beads from benin is been worn in nigeria as a universal bead by all royalty in southern part of nigeria ....would you say because onni of ifes wears coral beads then ooni inventeded it .... Onitsha as a vasal state under benin could have spread the yam festival of the benins through social interaction with other eastern tribes then it continues just like that

The bottom line is culture is wide spread in years to come all cultures in nigeria will merge and they will be no distinct from another....

philip0906:
Seun no wan hear word...He seems to be bereft of ideas or just plain stubborn to implement change.

The idiots posting these porn pictures are either spam bots or individuals opening accounts repeatedly...

A few lines of code to ensure that an account must have spent a certain amount of time on the forum (e.g 3 months) before an attachment can be added to any post, will reduce opening a thread filled with porn pictures by atleast 90% (atleast 90% of these accounts that do such, are accounts that have not spent more than 48 hours on the forum)

Very intelligent idea we need more of people who would help us think

MelesZenawi:
Explain more please

Go read igue festival online then do your own research on city's around nigeria that celebrate yam festival.... And its originattion it will help bettet

MelesZenawi:
Are you sure?

Proof or if so that means Benin and Yorubas have so much in common.

Benins celebrate yam festival during december month it is a celebration of new yam after the raining season the oba gets to celebrate it first before the commoners
All other tribes who celebrate yam festival was once under the benin control
Like onitsha ,Delta, ekiti ,ondo
And later spread to other nearby states who likes and adopt the culture

jorniv:
It seems to me that these 'African inventions' are mostly a sad pathetic exercise in Political Correctness. If Africans invented all these things, why they lived in such primitives conditions up until very recently? Besides, Egyptians were not Africans per se. If somebody has dark skin it does not necessarily follow is a Black African. I believe the problem here is simple: many people refuse to face reality and prefer to be Politically Correct mostly in fear of being branded 'racist'. it is obvious that Black people are intellectually deficient. That does not mean that they are inherently evil and that they should be exterminated but that their population growth should be controlled especially in USA and Europe, in fact, around the World including Africa itself. In the last forty years, we have seen how China, Turkmenistan, UAE, Qatar, Thailand and many other countries have achieved great levels of development whereas Africa not only did not move forward, it did not even preserve what they inherited from Europe, it actually destroyed it and went backward! In twenty-twenty five years Kazakstan, Turkmenistan, UAE, Qatar built some of the most amazing cities on earth considering that these are desert countries with limited natural resources. Singapure, S. Korea and even India and Puerto Rico have made great strides in the last sixty years. On the other hand, let's look at Congo(DRC) as an example of your typical African country: With the only possible exception of the Russian Federation, that is five times the size of Congo, it is hardly possible that there is another country on earth with more natural wealth than Congo and they live in total poverty. Their excuses that 'we were invaded, colonized, oppressed, enslaved' is total nonsense to me: many, many countries have been invaded, colonized, oppressed and enslaved and they are moving forward at a faster rate than the completely stagnated African countries.
ENOUGH OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS: BLACK PEOPLES ARE INTELLECTUALLY INFERIOR TO NON-BLACKS, THEY ARE LAZY AND MORALLY DEFICIENT. THESE PEOPLE POPULATION GROWTH HAS TO BE CONTAINED BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE

Thanks for your sincerity not like those who would like go apeal thier ego by attaching blacks to egyptian civilization...
Lets stick to our west african civilization and we will see it is empty and nothing to talk about ....

I believe the negriod race will be supreme one day and not by peddling lies or attaching thsmselves to other peoples greatness

MelesZenawi:
Please when did Yorubas start to celebrate New yam festival?

Since benins introduced it to them

Thatssobeyonce:
Lmao nicki worths $100m o bt me i no reach $100 sef

Lol...do you stay in nigeria

And what tribe is your dad from