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TAO11:
Here the most you could do even after several hours of tortuous search is to simply attach a picture of a Benin bronze/brass cast, and then proceed to type with your own hands that it dates to the 13th century. Lol!

No, you have to provide an expert, scholarly, academic source which dates these specific attached artefacts.

Moreover, how is the dating of a sword to Ogiso era (although without any dating evidence) supposed to be evidence that beads were used before the reign of Ewuare1??

Once again, are you sure I'm not discussing with a ret@rd?

You see you aint wise i made that statement against of introduction of bronze making to the benins by the yoruba people....

Yea go find it on youtube ....you dont research you just "read links" and forget the write up ...go on youtube go on quora ....tuwn come back and clean your rubbish here ....

iso604:
Come Benin make my iye touch you with one stick if you nor turn lizard nor come Benin again

Stupid boy u aint benin gatway

BoboNkiti19:
The fight was bloody, Yorubas initially had the upper hand over the Hausas, but after destroying their( the Hausas) market wares and stalls, come see vex from Aboki... boys rallied together with more dangerous weapons, chased the Yorubas out and beat shege comot for their body... three yoruba boys were savagely beaten and nearly lynched but for the timely arrival of the police... in all it was a close fight, with Hausas having the slight edge having inflicted more bodily damage to the Yorubas.

on a side note big respect to the Igbos who played the mediator role very maturely, Hausa and Yoruba dey fight... other Yorubas were scared to douse the tension, but na Igbos manage calm things down till the police arrived.

Lol...hmm go use your talent act film guy

TAO11:
Legend says! Which legend? Yoruba legend? No, Benin legend. If you don't trust your own tradition, then provide the alternative which would help your case, but with evidence.

(1) I have shown you evidence of beads production in Ife dating to as early as the 12th century (i.e. the 1100s --- many centuries before European contact) but you've suddenly had a short memory.

For evidence, refer one more time to the academic paper at the following link:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/281149310_Glass_Beads_from_Igbo-Olokun_Ile-Ife_Chemical_Composition_Production_and_Regional_Interaction

This link contains the scholarly academic paper entitled:  "Glass Beads from Igbo-Olokun, Ile-Ife: Chemical Composition, Production, and Regional Interaction"

This paper was presented at an annual conference of the "Society for American Archaeology."

And it states clearly in the Abstract, and I quote here:

"The site of Igbo Olokun in the city of Ife, in southwestern Nigeria has been identified as a primary glass and glass beads production center dating to the “Classic” period (12th-15th c.)"


(2) I have shown you an early 14th-century (i.e. early 1300s) bronze casting of an Ife king (with his Ife facial scarification which you admitted was an Ife thing and never a Benin thing) with rounded beaded regalia. Yet you're now pretending to have lost your memory.

This foregoing two points alone already destroys everything you've made up above concerning beads among the Yorubas.


Furthermore, the photograph you've attached is of Oba Ovoranmwen Nogbaisi of Benin kingdom who ruled from 1888-1897.

How is this photograph of a man in the 19th/20th century supposed to be an evidence that beads were used before Ewuare1 who had reigned in the 15th century (i.e. 1400s)??

Are you sure you're not retarded??

...lol i have no time for this



Someday you would eventually stop lying hopefully, and you would share the testimony of how I helped with your kids.

A picture showing 14c palace and the guards with full regalia i hope this counter your claims

I will revist this your comment one after the other but not today stay on

TAO11:
Provide your evidence for the above first boldened claim.

Provide your evidence for the above second boldened claim.

Every other thing is your usual incoherent and insanely idiotic rant.

Pic one and two 13 century artefact...

And again the benin ceremonial sword is as old as the ogiso era and it is made from bronze far back 4bc

TAO11:
If you're begging me to discard your own Benin tradition which says that Ewuare1 introduced the use of beads to Benin in the 1400s, then there is a big problem within your camp.

Mind you, academia (University of Iowa) also testifies that this tradition which says that coral beads (i.e. Ivie and Ekan) was introduced to Benin by Ewuare1. Refer here: https://africa.uima.uiowa.edu/topic-essays/show/4?start=1

Furthermore, nowhere did I ever mention to you that the later Edo revisionists disagreed with Egharevba on the issue of who introduced beads into Benin.

Yes, the later Edo revisionists shied away from certain facts which Egharevba had already stated since the 1930s (such as the fact that the Edo Ekaladerhan is separate and distinct from the Ife Oduduwa, etc.).

Nowhere have I ever mentioned to you at any time that the later Bini revisionists shied away from EVERY FACT submitted by Egharevba. Please point out where I ever made any statement to this effect.


But if you must insist on rejecting your own tradition which says that Ewuare1 introduced beads' use into Benin (a rejection which is actually shameful of you to start with), you should at least be willing to provide even a shred of evidence to support your imagination that beads were used before Ewuare in Benin.

Please do not say you don't have enough time to provide the evidence.

Benin artefact sculpture shown men with beads wear at 13century eware reigned at 15 century ..

My friend sit down and reason those links that you draw up to counter me am not like everyother guy here on net you can post anything on ...please if you are posting links please review them first stop giving me work to start proving your links wrongs all the time...

If we are to go by all this links you post we will end up getting so many counter claims the yoruba claims they introduce beads to benin the benin oldest artefect is way older than yoruba oldest art works...
Because it a benin website wont make it hundred % correct or because he is a benin man “egharevba" thats were you always get it wrong you keep posting links and you feel satisfied you have made sense and have countered me ...lol...

TAO11:
You're obviously dumber than your kinsman whom I just finished flogging.

You've submitted loads of red herring, straw man and outright irrelevant craps.

Nowhere did I tell you to trust Egharvba ONLY. Moreover, the Bini revisionists did not shy away from every single submission of the renowned Bini historian Egharevba.

The only fact remains of which there is any evidence remain that Benin traditions claim that Ewuare1 introduced coral beads' use (i.e. Ivie and Ekan ) to Benin in the 15th century, many centuries after Ife had already mastered the art of beads.

Find an academic reference to this Benin tradition below:

https://africa.uima.uiowa.edu/topic-essays/show/4?start=1


Every other thing you wrote is without evidence. What I expected is evidence which shows clearly that the use beads in Benin kingdom dates to before Ewuare1. What you have provided instead is a Wikipedia post which says that metal casting was practiced in Benin since as early as the 13th century.

How is this supposed to be evidence for the use of beads in Benin before Ewuare1??


Furthermore, the following comment goes out to your brother Prolog3111 who mentioned somewhere that while the Binis use "cylindrical" shaped beads the Ifes use ONLY "spherical" shaped ones and never "cylindrical" shaped ones.

If your brother really knows even the most basic of solid Euclidean geometry, then he should have known that the beads enclosed in between the two "line" highlights in the attachment below are not "spherical" but "cylindrical".

I guess he (Prolog3111) is even a rookie in his self-acclaimed field of Mathematics. Come and learn some Maths boy, okay?

The attached evidence (including the highlight) shows clearly that the Ifes used both tubular shaped beads (or "cylindrical" shaped beads as he may prefer to call it ) as well as spherical shaped ones.

Cheers!

You really dump and fool of crap because the acedemic reference stated l"engend say's " the beginning of topic

I have checked the oldest picture of yoruba monarchs on net and i found that this yoruba kings seem not to have worn hand bead unlike the sculpture of oduduwa ....not even round beeds too until recently
This are foreign custom to the yorubas ....

Your onni of today is seen fluenting coral beads and even hand beeds the beeds we all knows came from the Portuguese i dont see why the ooni is wearing a coral beads when its not original to them the only yorubas allowed to wear such beeds are the ekitis and ondo which were once under the benin vassal state....back to discussion to all this proves and the benin claim to oduduwa dont you think it maybe correct.....

Here are pics of the ekan beeds and even benin hand and round beed

TAO11:
Firstly:
It's called "logical proof" and not "logical prove". Invest some quality time in grasping the difference between the words "proof" and "prove".

Secondly:
It's shocking that you dared ask him for prove [sic] even when you yourself have consistently given me the crappy excuse that you don't have time to provide evidence, proof, or reason whenever I demand that you substantiate your absurd and ridiculous claims.

Thirdly:
You seem to be either intimidated by my apparently scholarly competence, or you're just outrightly misogynistic, or you're both.

Your fear about my gender did not help the argument you should be constructing. It didn't help you a bit. It only exposed your emptiness and base thinking.


Fourthly:
You noted that weblinks (to papers and writings which are either scholarly or of Bini origin, or both) are not enough for you as so-called "raw proves".

Can you then be bold enough to state clearly, in black and white, that what you would respect and acknowledge as a so-called "raw prove" is a stamped physical paper delivered at your Benin address by DHL, FedEx, UPS, or USPS??

Every logical and right thinking person knew long ago that you've already been punished and messed up by my humble self. You're simply just saving-face by clutching at straws. You remind me of the proverbial drowning guy.


Fifthly:
Anyway, just to avoid not fu*king you up one more time, refer below to the attached sculpture:

This attached bronze/brass casting is an ancient sculpture representing an Ife king, and it was excavated from Ita-Yemoo site in Ile-Ife, Nigeria.

It has been scientifically dated, by experts, to the latest of early 14th century CE. In other words, early 1300s.


This is a hard archaeological evidence (dating to more than seven hundred years ago) showing in black and white that Ife kings of old dressed in the same exact regalia described by Obalufon; that is "beads dressing and wrapper tying".


Please note that this hard and extant archaeological find depicting an elaborate adornment of beads by this Yoruba king dates to a period (i.e. early 1300) when Benin kingdom had not begun the use of beads at all.


According to Benin's own tradition, the use of beads in their own region (i.e. the use of Ivie and Ekan --- both types known as coral beads) was not until the reign of Oba Ewuare1 who reigned from 1440 to 1473.

Whether you hate this Benin account or not is none of my business. What is undeniable and incontrovertible is that it is the Benin account.

However, if you've imagined that the Binis should have used beads prior to Ewuare1, then provide the evidence for such imagination.

Please don't give me your usual crappy excuse that you don't have enough time to provide the evidence.

But something tells me that you would tender the same old excuse of not having time to provide your evidence.

I keep telling you stop posting craps from the internent that lacks proper research and archeological data .....
Lol....ooh now its a benin website not eghrevbas account again i shoukd believe ...so now you choose to post an edo website not eghrevbas works again pathetic ....spit*

And again you have made me go over board to bring valid data from archeological findings just again eweka reigned from about the 13century when beads were said to have originated in benin according to archeological findings no account ever mentioned him introducing beads but he wore beads and all other edo regalia

This findings on the date were gotten from the muesum i will advice you to stop the big grammer and research before you write....

According to account the benin empire still older than the so called oyo empire if it existed

TAO11:
You're only exposing yourself more, by thinking that you will cover up a smaller hole by digging a bigger one.

Your Bini tradition claims that it was Ewuare1 (who lived and died before the first Portuguese delegation came to Benin kingdom) that introduced beads to Benin kingdom. Whether he truly got them from a sea deity or not is not my business, that is for the Edos to reconcile.

No problem if you really want to disown your Bini tradition. But claiming that it was the Portuguese (who arrived after Ewuare1 had died in 1473) that introduced beads to Benin kingdom even makes your case worse.

This is because the gap between beads production in Ife and the use of beads in Benin gets wider.

And in case you had thought I won't be able to re-post the evidence of beads production in Ife, then here we go:

"The Yoruba people have, in fact, been producing beads in Ile-Ife since as early as the 12th century --- that is, since as early as the 1100s. --- that is, some 300 years before the Portuguese would according to you introduce its use to Benin kingdom.

Refer to the academic paper at the following link for enlightenment:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/281149310_Glass_Beads_from_Igbo-Olokun_Ile-Ife_Chemical_Composition_Production_and_Regional_Interaction

It contains the scholarly academic paper entitled:

"Glass Beads from Igbo-Olokun, Ile-Ife: Chemical Composition, Production, and Regional Interaction",

The paper was presented at an annual conference of the Society for American Archaeology."

And it states clearly in the Abstract, and I quote here:

"The site of Igbo Olokun in the city of Ife, in southwestern Nigeria has been identified as a primary glass and glass beads production center dating to the “Classic” period (12th-15th c.)"


Having said that, if you're really desperate to claim that some kind of beads were already in use in Benin kingdom prior to Ewuare1); then do so by the adducing evidence. Don't just simply submit a wishful thinking or your personal word-of-mouth.

Stop giving excuses like:

Although I have time to argue with you, I don't have time to provide evidence for whatever bogus statement I make.

Does such an idea even make sense to you?

If you have the time to make any claim, then you should have the time to defend it with scholarly academic evidence.

Provide the evidence for your imagination.


And regarding your claim that some drawings of pre-Ewuare1 kings of Benin (such as is shown in the following link) show the use of beads:

https://www.edoworld.net/Obas.html

This is the lamest argument I have ever heard. If you really believe this desperate face-saving claim you just made; then you probably believe that Jesus Christ is an American/European just because drawings portray him as such.

Address my arguments (earlier ones and this one, if you believe you can), and if you can't, then simply move on with your delusion.

Bye!


Modified:

You're a shameless liar!

Both Ivie and Ekan are coral beads even according to your Edo website shown below.

In case you want to stick to your Benin tradition, then your Edo website says it was Oba Ewuare in the 1400's A.D. who brought them (i.e coral beads) to Benin kingdom.

But in case you hate to stick to Benin traditions, then even your Edo website below says that coral beads are mined from bushlike formations in oceans, such as the Mediterranean sea and the sea of Japan.

http://www.edofolks.com/html/pub8.htm

But in any case, the keyword is "coral beads". And that comprises of both Ivie and Ekan. Stop pretending like "coral beads" refer only to "Ivie". Your Edo website has already exposed you on that.

I find you amusing ...and intelligent but at thesame time youre not smart... You read wide but alongside dogmatism and bigotry ....i will never step in shoes of ethnocentrism just to save the edo history you should get that fact..
You post links of so many write up full of prejudice and lots of error then you claim you're smart or you won me in an argument...ha ..
Just so you know keep posting those links and i will keep reviewing and get vital information from them to explain possibilities since our ancestors never wrote in words....

Discard that crap of ewaure inventing beads in benin i can tell you so many folktales of ewaure in benin he was the greateat king so much of folklore is expected from him which some are lies ....
The issue am having with you is when a source of info suit you ...you paste the links to counter me discard other sources of links ...you aegued egnrevba works was original against the edo site that claims otherwise but here you are pisting thesame edo site you say is not correct

Am probably looking for all possibilities oduduwa is benin

Obalufon:
what are you saying bro,,, You will say ekiti dress like typical ife people ..Benin royal dressing is ife ...beads dressing and wrapper tying

Hmm....lol....my friend can you come with logical prove...i told ur broda who is hiding under a female account that links are irrwlevant but raw proves ...ao come out with raw fact then i will believe you anyone can claim anything i bet you know that

Fatherofdragons:
Not only did you claim that egusi soup is bini soup but bitterleaf soup (ofe onugbu) is also bini soup?

You even call it black soup, very soon now ofe ǹsàlà which you people call white soup will automatically become a bini soup.

We are watching

Goggle ia ur friend....the last i remember igbo culture started after Independence... All we have in igbo culrure is a borrowed culture which all started as a result of pre Independence interalationship with other tribe

TAO11:
Lol!

I advice that you should change your moniker to "WellKnownLiar".

And that's because I have exposed you again and again severally for what you are.

I have before now beaten you black and blue on all of these claims on another thread from where you quietly exited without uttering a word till date, after much beaten.

But to expose you here one more time:

The dead and buried hypothesis which you're trying to resuscitate is the self-contradictory idea that your exiled prince Ekaladerhan is one and the same person as the Yoruba's Oduduwa.

Let's see how well the so-called evidence with which you want to defend this fiction would fare:

(1) Your thesis is that Ekaladerhan is Oduduwa.

And your so-called evidence is that Ife bronze/brass sculptures show Yoruba kings dressed in a beaded regalia that appears to you to belong to the Binis.

Hence these Yoruba kings (or one of them) is Oduduwa and hence, he is your Edo prince Ekaladerhan.


The Real Evidence:

(a) Premise 1:
Benin traditions, supported by scholarly academic testimony, claims that the use of beads was introduced into Benin kingdom during the reign of Oba Ewuare 1.

(b) Premise 2:
Benin tradition makes it incontrovertible clear that prince Ekaladerhan lived some three hundred years before Oba Ewuare 1.

(c) Conclusion:
Your prince Ekaladerhan, therefore, never dressed in a beaded regalia; hence he could not possibly have been the one represented by any the Ife bronze/brass sculptures of kings in elaborate beaded regalia.


Another Real Evidence:

(a) Premise 1:
Benin traditions, supported by scholarly academic testimony, claims that the use of beads was introduced into Benin kingdom during the reign of Oba Ewuare 1.

(b) Premise 2:
Obe Ewuare 1 reigned in Benin, just before the coming of the Portuguese. He reigned from 1440 to 1473 even according to Benin chronology of kings.

(c) Premise 3:
Ile-Ife already had a bubbling industry of beads production[ (i.e. dichroic glass beads, called "segi" or "akori" and coral tubular beads called "iyun" from as early as the 12th century CE, i.e., 1100s (or possibly centuries earlier)

(d) Conclusion:
Not only are the Ife bronze/brass castings not representative of Ekaladerhan (or any Bini); they clearly are representative of Yoruba kings from the early evidence of beads production in Ife.


Another Real Evidence:

(a) Premise 1:
Benin traditions, supported by scholarly academic testimony, claims that the use of beads was introduced into Benin kingdom during the reign of Oba Ewuare 1.

(b) Premise 2:
Obe Ewuare 1 reigned in Benin, just before the coming of the Portuguese. He reigned from 1440 to 1473 even according to Benin chronology of kings.

(c) Premise 2:
Many of the Ife bronze/brass sculptures showing the kings dressed in elaborate beaded regalia have been dated by archaeologists (after been excavated from Ile-Ife) to latest of early 14th century; i.e. early 1300s.

(d) Conclusion:
The Ife bronze/sculptures representing the kings dressed in elaborate beaded regalia we're produced a century before the knowledge and use of beads in Benin kingdom.


Another Real Evidence:

(a) Premise 1:
Many of the Ife bronze/brass sculptures of kings dressed in elaborate beaded regalia shows the kings to be having the Ife ethnic facial vertical markings which is alien to Edo culture.

(b) Premise2:
There are real photographs even in modern times of Yorubas with such ethnic facial vertical markings (alien to Edo culture).

(c) Conclusion:
Such ethnic facial marking is therefore a Yoruba cultural reality, and thus the kings (dressed in elaborate beaded regalia) represented by the Ife bronze/brass sculpture bearing thic etnic marking are Ife-Yorubas (and not Bini).


I think the foregoing is clear enough to any sane mind that the beaded regalia (of rounded beaded necklaces on longer beaded necklaces) depicted by the Ife bronze/brass sculptures of Ife kings; are of Ife origin and are later introduced into Bini culture during Eware's reign or later on.

Ife never produced beads ...they all got thier beeds from the north in exchange of goods

Saying ewuare brought beeds to benin thats wrong ...collecting beeds from mermaid (B.S)
You believing that scrap makes me wonder you believe the b.s of oduduwa falling from the sky

Ivie : popular red or pinkish in colour was introduce by the pourtuguese this beeds cant be found in any local river but rather in the sea so i wonder how ewuare got to the sea when he had no boat
Ekan on the other hand is a more tiny beeds very tiny and reddish in colur it is a beed won by the benins before the birth of ewaure ...it is the beads edo wore that made the Portuguese offer coral beeds as gratitude to the oba if they never saw ekan beeds with the benin people i wonder why they will just imagine to bring beads to Benin at the first journey

Ewuares only made laws to guide the use of ekan before is death
When you check the images of all kings in benin
You will find beeds in all thier necks are you going to dispute that .
another yoruba site claims yorubas introduce beeds to benins i guess you should have also posted that too

I wouldnt post links i really dont have times for that perhaps most links are means to gather knowledge they are Actually not too correct ....so i prefer not to post. But keep posting am entertained

TAO11:
I know you must have skipped a heartbeat when you saw my comment, because I have already beaten you black and blue on another topic from where you quietly escaped to this one without uttering a word.

Now to your idiotic comment as it is typical of you:

Nigeria was a colony of Britain, hence Nigerians speak English language alongside our indigenous languages.

Tell us which of your fictitious and imaginary so-called "Benin kingdom colonies" speak Edo language alongside its own language(s). Bring your PROOF!!

Nay! On the contrary, Benin kingdom was a colony of Ife as we've seen many evidence of that. One of the most prominent of the evidence been that Yoruba language was spoken alongside Edo language in Benin kingdom. I have demonstrated this above with historical evidence.

The Yorubas emancipated your ancestors from the dungeon and shackles of Igodomigodo. We scrapped your archaic monarchy called Ogiso, we introduced a relatively "modern" monarchy to you, called Oba. We introduced the concept of crown to you, and much more.

I wonder what your degenarating condition would have been today had the light from Ife not shone on your ancestors and liberated them from the shackles and savagery of Igodomigodo.

You're only seeking relevance for your pathetic and frustrated soul, and you do so with lies, after which you always quietly exit when given the adequate harsh and embarrassing treatment which you deserve and always seek.

Lastly, it is only fair that I should assist your case by mentioning to you how urgently you need to see a psychiatrist.

It is obvious from my exchange with you that you're battling delusion of grandeur. I pray that you find help before you're consumed by it.


Mind you, I'm still waiting for you on the other post from where you ran down here.

There is a home-work which you haven't submitted, a home-work from which you fled.

Till then,

Cheers!

There is nothing original to the yorubas....in history most of the yoruba culture today 40% were influence by the northerners 30% from edos 20% from the britsh if you like disprove i will then elaborate for your understanding....

On the aspect of speaking yoruba in the palace will be correct the benins was an empire comparising of different ethnic group such as igbos who was once the military commander in edo, obaseki whos origin could be trace to ondo,
Itsekiris,ijaws,kogis so they were many speakers of tgis various dialect in edo but benin was the majour language

On the other hand Oduduwa sculpture is seen to be wearing a rounded bead on his neck and also hand beads which are is an unusual culture for the yorubas coincidenterly benins claims they lost a prince lets assume benins never found this prince but with this description of oduduwas sculpture wont it be save in a sane clime to believe the benins are correct unlike the story of oduduwa from mecca ....lol

The word oba was popularise to the yorubas by the british because of similarities they found
between some yoruba's monarch and the benin monarchs so they decide to ascribe the Benin title oba to describe all yoruba monarchs still the yorubas never gave up thier original title but instead are making tautology by calling themselves oba(king) and thier original title which also means king to adress themselves

Devgod:
We are in dark times.
We are now in a world where a woman can beat, slap and abuse a man, and the man dare not not retaliate or risk jail term.
Women can beat and assault a man. And she wold get away with it.
Dark times.

Ps: I'm not actually referring to the video.

You be mad man can you compare the strength of man to a woman ....or do you think they are just for sex alone and nothing more
stop this your thinking before you will beat your wife to death.....
Just imagine me beating your sister publicly because she insulted me....

pdppower:
What's the point of singling out their state. Why not just refer to them as Nigerians.

Why would we just refer them as just Nigerian's they are giving accurate data to send messsages acrosss anambra state government of the particular crime coming from the state...my state was mentioned edo so what the Bleep ...
But if its for a better cause we will be hearing igbos amaka ,Yoruba's amaka rubbish bigoted majority tribes

internationalman:
He's also a Muslim pretending to be a Christian.

Plus we the real people of Edo state don't regard them as part of us...

He's a free agent ready to be grabbed by either Buhari, Tinubu or Okorocha's tribe.

Oshiomole is from kwara is a pure yoruba afonja edos dont act like him ....we offerly give him to the igbos if they need him

michelz:
Bro,you're very far from history ( no disrespect meant).
You just swallow anything the popular media hands down to you,hook,line and sinker.
What happened to the black soup and starch that is Benin's traditional soup?

How many indigenes of Edo state even know what is bitter leaf soup?

You guys are just too funny. lol.

As a mtter of fact i nevered disagreed on that.....
Bitter leaf(black soup) is as original to we binis just as eguish ...so stop misquoting me

My friend its not you ...am older than you and have not dated since have been on earth tho i Bleep pussy most times. i have been also been rejected countlessly just like you .that i dont even bother asking a girl for relationship anymore .i ended doing friends with benefit with ladies and fucking those ladies who are dating to the point that even when ladies want to get serious with me it begins to irritate me because am not use to it .more like a datingphobia am
currently having... Over the years of rejection i channeled the energy in so many things that have helped me alot i even go to cinema myself and other ladies guys are bringing start giving me green light without their guy noticing ...but if you insist on still dating make money first and ladies will force you to even impregnate them ....
But i belisve life isnt calling you to date its probably calling you for another cause which female distraction is not needed like i said channel this energy on discovering yourself not babe or dating ...those guys who are dating are over occupied that they cant add anythi g meanifull to thier life at the moment

Pidgin is a mix of foreign language both Portuguese and english with various local dialect which include edo,yoruba ,igbos i doubt delta the earliest contact by foreigner's are the Edo's so we can give the originality and uniqueness to them as for the delta people you all should try and speak your language more pidgin is unique to west african but your language is more unique to your ancestory and your people go back and teach your childreb urhobo.....not pidgin

Since bikes were ban in benin accident has reduce when i went to auchi were they still use bike you will never go a day without hearing bike and trailer accident
All state government should ban bike it is nothing more than a trap for death

MelesZenawi:
After claiming egwusi , u also claim bitter leaf soup...

lolzx, why not pack ur bag and come and live in Igbo land

lolzzz

U don't have argument on bitter leaf soap
The benin traditional food has turn to a general soup in nigeria the benin beads have turn to a general fashion in Nigeria no one care to even try to know or respect thier origin

MelesZenawi:
There are always democratic resolution of every crisis and even UN charter lays credence to that.


The British experiment gone mad called Nigeria doesn't need to have existed in the first instance.


and when a long terrain of lack of trust building up over the years can't be settled then it calls for division so that everyone can pursue their own future.

It doesn't matter if splitted into four or five but the reason remains it must disintegrate for peace to reign.

By so doing the full potential of every individual and sector will be exploited.



So my op, you can choose your fight against us or for us not settlement.


Many potential are dying in this estate and until we pull out we can start making a headway in life.


Igbo amaka.

There is nothing like igbo amaka it should be nigeria amaka we shouldn't dwell on divisionism
I know all reasons gives otherwise but atleast every other tribes have had thier share on injustice not just the igbos or the yorubas ...but we should channnel this hate energy not to fight ourselves but for a better country ...it is sad you guys hijack all comment dish yourselves even other tribes cant even make peaceful comment anymore the N.D.A where once also brutalized with injustice fighting for thier land and nigerians supported it but they don't go around spilling hatred all over nairaland

charleybam:
Good day nairalanders...I am not good at online begging but water don pass garri for this situation nd i no get any other option... I am a student,i am surviving today all because of my hardworking mother but things are really hard at the moment dat i find it very hard to feed in a day nd i cnt go nd start working with an empty stomach,any amount isnt too small for me my fellow nairalanders..who naked no dey shook hand for pocket...help a brother
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U dey mad ....use ur prick for ritual stop disgracing your generation

The tribalism between igbos and yorubas is nothing new anymore but ...but its also something we should also handle with seriousness. it is getting too much all comment on nairalands are been hijacked by this two tribes fooling themselves all over nairaland i wonder if the two foolish tribes know they are also other tribes on nairaland ...can someone also tell them the people who made thier state poor don't even know if tribal hate exist in the country rather they care more on exploiting them
Am just tired of reading hate speech from both tribes
Pls fellow nl help to find solution to the two populous tribes fooling themselves all over nairaland

NaijaRoyalty:
Trash trash trash

Fifth class and Zero in Nigerian politics , but not as poor and unfortunate as the North that has hold on to power for years .

Which Yoruba state is doing well economically apart from Lagos that's obviously a "No man's land"?

Yorubas and igbos una mumu don do you guys are not only the ones on this forum all comment
All comment is full of hate from both tribes

sogodihno:
The only reason I want this country to break up is so that all of u can go back to ur barren erosion ravaged region, u will leave ur mud enclave and come to stay in our land and still be insulting us. Jeez!

And when a Yoruba man become president in 2023, u can go and die .

Yoruba n igbo una mumu don do you guys are not only the ones on this forum for Godsake

Yorubas and igbos mumu sha....una too mumu

Pls all yorubas and igbos spilling hate comment should be banned from this forum both the two tribes will leave thier respective state to survive in lagos and still cause nuisance for the indigenous lagosians....

#Yorubasandigbos una mumu don do

And they are poor people around Nigeria to help instead he keeps giving to rich already... All in a bid to show off

godwinstringed1:
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Does he accept ritual money

Or just tell him to bring ia parents for ritual since they are not usefull am at osun state call me 08133555418

We need you ighalo....

TAO11:
The Itsekiris are a Yoruba sub-group, just as other Yoruba sub-groups.

You again yea itsekiris werw yorubas sub grouped which we colonized just as eko,ekiti,ondo and osun the nupes took care of oyo the same nupes benins conquered at idah renamed the town ida
Yorubas has no history outside been conquered by other tribes the only people who conquered benin was the britsh throughout history

When the word pastors now mean

Tax collectors*

What would you expect