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Jesse01:
y should he be pained? it is better selling ogogoro dan being f*ck by 50 Italian men in one Night

haha ur girls in bayelsa are been bleeped did i say fu*k i meant raped by ur so called millants brothers who rapes thier sisters mothers when they high on weed and the give birth to thugs or abomination ..

the painfull thing is the ijaw girls here our yahoo boys don vandalse thier kpekus tiya is pirey,otunga,pere omo i don Bleep many personally thier puss sweet thier


our girls do it international and become a citizen over there but ur girks do it locally and become a citizen in a zoo country which is beter

kemelyt:
Are you alright?

omo hahaha e pain am
truth is painfull other president ruled for 8yrs but urs ruled 6yrs because of the pity they had on d ijaws dey allowed him rule for 6yr and he and his wife who couldn't speak English was both kicked out

while he ruled did e even remember bayelsa st what did he do for bayelsa but go check what he did for north sometimes i wonder if he was from bayelsa or the north

his regime was halarious he was the dummy of d century including all ijaws it runs in all ur trait now i geg to see it

owensking:
Bro, u re right!....one word from Oba...will wipe them out of that land...they shouldn't mess with Great Bini king...once they re enemies of the Oba.. that's they re in very deep shit!...it doesn't matter if they got gun ship or weapon of mass destruction..they should go face Oba then if they got ball...when Oba says something it can never be reversed...d king words is final!

omo if one bullet touch oba make i know why ...if he cum be say bullet touch oba then i wont praise anybody on earth again
but i know that not possible na .inshort it is impossicant

omo ijaws go tell the history's give fedral govt and our afonja brothers who get plessure claiming false aligation of our history

but naija delta get mind ooh even boko boys nor get mind cum edo na small terrorist

but 21days too far na abi dem won supply dem gun oba erediawa could have ended this he was just too meek i believe ewuare i and ii

all benin boys should leave church now and pray for osanoubua nu da zi for strength

bounty007:
truth is bitter..but must be said.

if you no like am..Omo go hug Oba.

you really typed rubbish rusing to comment without thinking first

who told you the so called pere has been installed or even have a palace now
or weren't you aware that the coronation was stoped by the governor

scientifically these troubles is been caused by the ijaws from N D A because the old ijaws who have been leaving with the benins for century never thought of taking land that wasnt thiers and they saw it as a favour done to them it has been more than 200yrs the ijaws have been fishing in gelegele scientifically benins would have influence them both in language and culture over the years but they decided to allow d N DA boys come spoil everything is a sorry benin never lost a war except that of the British .and benins is never going to lose it

the date set by the ijaws is risky that is when oba is full of powers i advice the ijaws to take it near if they aint afraid

bounty007:
nigerians una don see am finish..

na Edo bini people start to provoke ijaw..while ijaws are stating history n facts.

no be tomorrow na..when matter don hot..some people with afonja Dna go start to draw sympathy and sentiments.

matter go soon start..

meanwhile..i don't even understand the noise from bini folks..

wetin una dey wait.. will the way unadey hot..
una for don enter gelegele..dispose the new king and burn down his palace..

or make oba of bini make him declaration.

then we go knw say una serious..

don't like all this media noise..
abi make we fry beans with am ni?

omo see person when dey talk fight come ooh u b boy or girl because by your comment u write like a bitch

i think chubby wears ass pad mhen those lsps are too small for those ikebe she carry

like if u see what i see share if u dont

mr1759:
he was chain u said, because no one could killed him can you compare him with your father king jaja who was cremated

my friend benin was conquered by betrayal as a matter of fact he died as an hero wen he got to the prison in clabar after some yrs he got tiyad at 1914 he killed all his guard as he was returning to benin with no food no charms to disapper back home. he was getting weak he saw a river close by and handed over his beads to the goddess of that sea before he died ...after his death the queen england started having nightmares about the benin kingdom d dreams kept on disturbing her for four yrs b4 she later gave up the ghost after so many spiritual and physical treatment for her aid. the man who ordered the exile of ovaramwen died fom madness few months later all this was the result of the last kingdom to be conqured by britsh in africa benin


who is jaja of opopo where history are said does the British know him as an hero or a slave what was he. even nigerians dont recongnise him not to talk of the British am proud to tell you the oba of benin is still been invited to the queens palace

just see king jaja of opopo been killed as a slave

AdaFonju:
Abeg wer was thing when this niggerr was chained like Christmas goat

u talk very funny if it wasnt for betrayal benin would have won the war if ur ijaw wasnt them afraid why did they not say 3days and let count scores omo is even worse the time they put close to igue festival where is powers is on fire omo i like see benin fight again

note u guys will have the best weapon but on that dont be spread ur guns wont shoot d booms wont explode it will then spell doom for the ijaws

AdaFonju:
Wrong, there are many Ijaw communities indegenous to Edo state
gelegele-Ijaw is just one community, channels tv visited there recently


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC7Q_0I3-yw

PEOPLE AND DEMOGRAPHY
The main ethnic groups in Edo State are: Edos, Afemais, Esans, Owans and Akoko Edos. Virtually all the groups traced their origin to Benin City hence the dialects of the groups vary with their distance from Benin City. The Bini speaking people who occupy seven out of the 18 Local Government Areas of the state constitute 57.54% while others Esan (17.14%) Afemai compirising of Etsako (12.19%), Owan (7.43%), and Akoko Edo (5.70%). However, the Igbira speaking communities exist in Akoko Edo as well as Urhobos, Ijaws, Itsekiris communities in Ovia North East and South West Local Government Areas especially in the borderlands. Also, Ika speaking communities exist in Igbanke in Orhionmwon LGA.

http://www.edostate.gov.ng/edo-people/
Stop spreading falsehood

if the ijaws are indigenous to benin why not appoint enogie who can speak both benin and ijaw instead of fight they could benefit more than fighting if they start a fight they wont win

OBA” ORIGIN WORD EDO.
I find it embarrassing when some Edo/Benin historians misunderstand the origin of the name, Oba. I wonder why they have not been able to connect the title to an Edo word and the series of events that took place in then Igodomigodo just as I have done. Sometimes ago, since I have always wondered how the name came about, I ventured into a little research on my own using the stories that took place at that time, and the meaning of Oba in Edo language to arrive at my conclusion.
Firstly, I wold like to let you know the meaning of ‘ba’, ‘O ba’ or ‘Noba ‘in Edo language.
- Baa or ba means ‘to shine’
- O’ baa means ‘it’s shining’ or ‘he/she is shining’
- Noba means the ‘colour ‘red’ or in a phrasal verb N’Oba meaning ‘the one that shines’
The last one N’Oba will be more relevant to the explanation below.
The name, title or word is not an original Yoruba word. After a series of events that led to the death of Ogiso Owodo, the departure of Ekaladerhan(heir apparent) and the emergence of Evian as the temporary head or Ogie of Igodomigodo , the kingdom was going through tough time ranging from the struggle for power amongst different groups . The Kingdom was plagued with famine, sickness and diseases. There was exodus of people from Igodo. The people attributed these to the anger of the gods as regard the injustice done to Ekaladerhan and the activities going on then. This made Oliha to lead a party to bring back Ekaladerhan who was rumoured to be alive in Uhe(Ife). Oliha and is party technically succeeded by bringing back Oranmiyan who was one of the Sons of Ekaladerhan (Oduduwa) to Igodomigodo.
Omonoyan (Oranmiyan) met strong resistance from Ogiamien and his supporters. He relocated back to the land he was used to since he wasn’t able to cope with the ongoing turmoil in his fatherland and left behind a child he had with the daughter of Enogie of Ogida, Eweka.
After Eweka became of age to assume the throne of his forefathers, he was still being challenged by Ogiamien and his supporters. Many wars were fought between them to enforce their authority as the sole head of the Igodomigodo Kingdom. After several years of warfare, Ogiemien finally conceded the head of the Kingdom to Eweka.
Note that during the reign of Ogiamien as the head of the Kingdom, The name Oba was already being used to refer to Eweka by his supporters as ‘omo no do baa n’Igodo’ or ‘Omo n’obaa n’Igodo’ meaning ‘the child that came to shine for Igodomigo ‘ or ‘the child that shines for Igodomigodo’. Then he has not yet adopted the name Eweka as his Kingship name. Some simply referred to him as ‘Omo’ in a short form. So, after the truce reached between him and Ogiemien , the people still referred to him as the child that have come to shine for the Kingdom and brought peace and prosperity to the Land and felt he should adopt the name as his title. The name was finally adopted as his Title for the King of Igodomigodo considering the events that led to his emergence. (omo n’obaa n’Igodomigodo in Edo language and the short form, Oba).
In view of the above, it is logical to say the word Oba was first used to describe the new king to be by those around him and the people of Igodomigodo. This was later adopted and used to refer to the King of Igodomigodo. The name was later changed from ‘omo n’oba n’Igodomigodo’ to ‘omo n’oba n’Edo’ after Oba Ewuare changed the name of the Kingdom (empire) to Edo.
Finally, I hereby conclude that the true meaning of the word Oba is in the literary meaning and the full pronunciation of the sentence ‘Omo n’oba n’Edo’.
NB
• Ukpon Noba (Red Cloth) was adopted to emphasize the significance of the new title of the monarchy.
• Also note that during the Ogiso dynasty, there was an Ogiso named Ogiso Obagodo. Obagodo literarily means ‘he’s shining very bright’. This is to buttress the points raised above as regard the true origin of the word Oba.
• I have come to understand that Edo/Benin history can best be explained in the names given to places, persons and traditional titles and idiomatic expressions which still exist up till date.
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Benin 'Obaship' as a devine essence.
In Benin Kingdom, South South Nigeria, its highly revered monarch, referred to, as Oba, stands alone in the hierarchy of mortals. Within the Benin cosmos, he has no equal. As the royal head of the Benin Kingdom, the Oba has in pl...ace what historians describe as “a sophisticated administrative system with a substantial spiritual component” because the departed Obas and God are consulted as a matter of routine in the running of the kingdom. The monarch’s palace located in Ogbe Quarters in the heart of Benin metropolis is hailed as an architectural masterpiece. It showcases the indigenous civil engineering skills of the Benin people, just as it is said to reveal the creative uses to which the magnetic Ulakpa red soil, regarded as unique to the people of Benin, can be put to.
To people of Benin origin, it is said that the Oba is not only God’s chief representative on earth; all his subjects consider him as ‘god’. “It is for this reason the Binis say: Oba o re Osanubua nagbon, meaning “The Oba is a god man or the god on the human world”). According to High Priest Osemwegie Ebohon, Benin oral tradition says that the Oba has a divine essence and so is the godhead of his people. “Invariably, he leads the worship of all deities in the land whether or not he is physically present”, he added. In practical terms, this means that all traditional prayers in the kingdom said with kola nut begin with the Oba and end with “Long may the Oba reign”. Secondly, when several persons are gathered, the Benin man in the group is spiritually senior to everyone present because he is considered by Bini culture as godhead representative of the Oba. Therefore, the responsibility of offering prayers for the group automatically falls on him.”
In ancient times, the Oba was not just the spiritual leader of the Benin Kingdom. He also had civil, social and political authority over the people. He was the undisputed head of state and government of Benin Kingdom and commander-in-ch
ief of the Benin Army. “Today,” in the words of Ebohon, “even though the ancient glories of the Benin Kingdom are no more, the Oba still commands tremendous love, awe, reverence, authority, power and influence in Edoland. His words are still law in the kingdom and some ancient practices have been carried over to modern times. “One of these practices is the salutation of the Binis. The general salutation is woven around the person of the Oba. For instance, the salutation follows this format: Ob’Owie, a combination of the words, Oba and Owie, literally means “King of the morning” while its ordinary meaning is “Good Morning”. Ob’Avan, whose literal meaning is “King of the Afternoon” and ordinary meaning is “Good Afternoon”, is derived from the words, Oba and Avan. Ob’ Ota, literally meaning “King of the Evening” and “Good Evening” in its ordinary meaning, is coined from the words, Oba and Ota. However, it is not totally wrong to say that some customs and traditions of Bini have been abused as they relate to the Oba of Benin and the Benin heritage. The Isekhure (Chief Priest) of Benin Kingdom, Chief Nosakhare Isekhure, speaking a few weeks ago for the Ihogbe of Benin Royal Family, who is custodians of Erhinmwindu Shrine, from which all authorities emerge, said there are three broad social gradings in Benin Kingdom, which still subsist today.
Chief Isekhure named them as the Benin Royal Family constituting the first family in Benin; the Nobles Family, comprising the Uzama Nihiron, the Ivbie Aronto, (Efa) and Enigie of non-royal descent and the commoners or other subjects of the Oba, excluding the women folk. “In this breakdown, the Oba stands alone as the spiritual head of Erhinmwindu Deity, which is the ultimate shrine from which all other shrines derive their authorities. It is a historical fact that the Iyase title, created by Oba Ewedo, was elevated as head and leader of the commoners (Okao Ovienoba). That placed him as first among the commoners on behalf of whom he can undertake advocacy and make representations to the Oba-in-Council. He is the head of Eghaevbonore chiefs.
Source: http://ihuanedo.ning.com/group/
healtheducation/forum/topics/oba-is-not-a-yoruba-word

BrownRoofRep:
Who is this semi mad bloke?
We are still waiting for the "overlords" to come over to Igboland and make noise.
Na frog-jump will give you the biggest lessons!

biggest tribalitic human being at the time you accept nothing like wazobia in your skul thats when the country will move foward

igbos is actually out is now “wazo" this is a result of ethnocentricism

craze dey like ijaw bioz by olamide

psychatric dey for benin land by osamede


neverthesless am a benin and i really want this fight i want the ijaws to teach the benis lessons because an average benin mans idea is to travel out of the country to go die for another mans land he doesnt see nigeria or even edo state as a place he can succeed u hardly find them in other state even in thier state thier economy is been controlled by non indigenes mostly ibos ...this are d advantages of over migration and lazyness on the benin thats why ijaws can claim gelegele because benins are not fishermen there only the ijaws so they can claim it and even fight for it because they have been there since what goes out and come in .in the river than the real owners Binis ...now they found oil oba whants to come and reclaim it by force aint done that way ...even if is an adopted child the real parents cant come and collect the child easily no it cant work ...it has to be a win -win for both parties and not war ..if is going to be a war sorry my brothers benins won't match with this people they have weapons than we are are they even a good number of youth population in benins presently that can fight for benins...no they aint all are in ghanas and libyas and italy ...

note :even benins decide to drive the ijaws the benin man is still very lazy to even work in the gelegele you will see other tribes dominitating it ..lets not even talk of the benin moat is nothing to write home about

lastly i will support a win - win for both party than war but enacting a king in benin who is not subjecting to the oba is a war already

omo ijaw come dey fear ni ...make them start the fight na why seeking buhari dey never liked omo they should start it since they claim they own the land ...omo i trust awon benin brothers thier jazz nor get part two

ogbonti:
I am from Warri but I attended school in Benin. Your asawana is asawana today becasue there is a reason to have the asawana situation, that is Ijaws were fighting Itsekiris and Urhobos of Warri. Bini people have not gotten any reason to engage in communal clashes, so do not use that as a yardstick to Project the outcome. Yes one thief, one cultist, one agbero acting individually is nothing to be scared off, but collectively, bro you are asking for big big trouble. let me ask you... whenever we had anti-sap or anti-government demonstrations all over Nigeria, go ask, Benin own is always out of control.. i never heard that of bayelsa or rivers getting out of hand. yes, the so called war lords u are talking about are like 1% of all ijaws fighting for their own greed, but IF THE OBA OF BENIN, THROUGH PROXIES DECLARE WAR ON THE IJAWS, hmmmm, i can tell you confidently that 80% of bini youths will heed the call if not 90%, no worry - make dem try am first.. benin is not itsekiri oooo benin people stubborn ooooo hmmmm, dem get mind ooooo. anyways siddon look

my broda tell them d last govnor who had problem brought his families to beg oba when abacha bought is troops to test the powerfull oba half of his men died while going back to lagos ...ogiame took oba to court the case became on hia head and his families brought courpse to beg the obas ...anini was the only criminal who changed nigerian constitution now every held of a police in nigeria cant be from that particular state because of a benin man anybody thats is the enemy of oba is doomed and dont see this as a war only the benin cultist in auchi,ekpoma,uniben,biu etc go finish ijaw

cultism don calm for edo state na make them get mouth but ijaws have mind ooh dem look other tribe cum make problem with benin ha...history will tell d humiliation of the ijaws

BrownRoofRep:
Bro, we don't bury people. It's not in us.
If they make the noise of their useless overlord myth reach Igboland we will flog senses into their empty heads and frog-jump them back to their land.

see d biggest fool for the century always using population inshort both the biafra afonjas and hausas including the propagating ijaws all of you are mad always ranting in nigeria just common southafricans nd Libyan have been dealing with you people you couldnt even fight back soon Ghana will follow just in Nigeria you claim warriors over smaller ethnic grp who was reduced by a bigger nation british nd wonder where you fathers were when benin conquered them


nigeria is bleeped up the three ethnic world one day fight in this Nigeria and it will be the end ...winning a war or election is not by population all is about sense which the benins have

i regreted y i was born in an ethnocentric country i blame the british

God punish wazobia and d ijaw mke una cum beat me you all caused why we are in the mess now ibos aka drug deakers been killed in indian and Europe .afonja(rituslist nd rapist hausa( the biggest fools who think nigeria is thier birthrite nd they are smart
southerners ( i dont care people )

odigbosky:
Last week i was in Usen sef....lol...The Alawure of Usen does not call himself King of Usen kingdom. He is subject to the Oba of Benin. What these ijaws dont know is that In Edo south, the oba can create any dukedom and make anybody an enogie and the person will be recognized by Edo state govt and he will start answering the title HRH. Edo state govt cant create any title in Edo south without the consent of the Oba of Benin. Talking about other parts of Edo state lets sat Edo central where we have Esans...allmost all their Onojies were created by the Oba of Benin. If you go to Edo North we have few of them created by the Oba but by the British example is the Otaru of Auchi yet these persons cannot stand shoulder to shoulder with the Oba of Benin. There is a reason He is the Permanent Chairman of the Traditional Rulers council in Edo state. There is a reason he is the Only one that uses the title HRM in Edo state. If the ijaws really wanted peace they would have met with him to just help them not warning him on newspapers. They should ask the Pere of Gbaramatu to come and make Edo state govt recognize one pere in Olodiama. The Oba would use state resources to deal with them without even starting a tribal conflict. One thing they don't know is that the Oba will not openly fight them or call them his enemies. The Oba doesn't do that, he will just frustrate them that's all. The Ijaws can move and join their kins in Gbaramatu or elsewhere.....The Oba doesn't declare somebody an enemy in the open because if he does...trust me even goats will be your enemy.

i like what you said otemwen nua ama vba agbon ze vbe ewin nota ...


there is this slang the ijaws should know about the oba of benin that the enemy of the oba is the enemy of the land if the oba issues that nobody sells or buy from the ijaw people it will happen and even the government cant stop it ...it will result to the oba arrest and which wouldn't go well with the nigeria government .within days govt officials would have been reduced as they did during abacha and the military govt of bendel state.even after the arrest by the oba for making such statement the benis will so drive the ijaws out of desperation even the federal govt will have to take sides with the ijaws by helping them leave the state if posdible...

many pple feels benin is an over hyped glorious kingdom the world ile ibinu runs in an edo blood .after the punitive expedition a bigger power subjugated them massacring all the benin able men thier nerves became calm ...but the cowardness of a lizard doesnt determine d harmfulness of is bite on an animal ...

during the civil war of nigerians this same anger rosed again but was even more worse that if you couldnt speak your language as a benin person you will be executed when fully well they know youre one...this is the anger of a benin man that led to the invasion of benin by the british because they were the first to start the fight against the britsh this same anger led to conquering the mighty igalas warriors until queen idah saw the kingdom burnt to the ground which made so many igalas scattered all over other kingdoms
so numerous to mention

people will say i am quoting past history because the feel they have guns if wasnt for betrayal by a fellow benin man during the british war against benin those guns would have proved useless to you today


everyone knows ijaws are fighters and angry but when you see benin own even on land and seas you cant fight the war ikoba will fight you in the river, ogba rivers will fight you oba will fight you the skys will fight before the people will later do a little fight ..at the end of the war ijaws vs benin fight will be told by benins to scare other tribes and also adding to their rich history


benin the last strong empire to be conquered in the full africa only people who stood there ground against the british in the whole Africa respect the empire

oba kha to kpere
umogun kha to kpere
ikepende gha to kpere
ominiminimini ,oba nu ogidigan oba no yo tua ya se evbebo

ma ni ivbie edo kpi ise nuhen...ise

thank you once again my brother ur post was an honour to be quoted on

i bet that child was gotten as a result of wedlock ...why not wait till you totally through with your schooling before the baby

nigeria girls lacks ambition and planning they just want to jumb into marriage as soon as they done from school some dont even wait b4 ending school...they forget marriage is another life ur husband as every right over you.he might even decide her not to work.but if she has put a buisness or
even working b4 jumping into marriage her husband will find it difficult to stop her from quiting ..now a baby how can she even start looking for work when she is with a baby stressing her mentally nd physically. thats why u see many Nigerian girls studying masscom nd useless courses in school's because soon as they are done months later they jumb into marriage nd put the burden on the mans head alone nothing to add to his life or her own life apart from babies

i conclude by saying behind every succes
man there is a woman to uphold the glory
i will marry an ambitious w
woman over a slaymama who one day stab me in bed

macof:
Smh. I stopped reading where you said Yorubas didn't wear clothes until the Europeans. I know everything after that just like everything you have posted before that will be bullshit and I'm tired of seeing Africans so stupid, talking in fields they know nothing about

I thought you were a human being worth a decent conversation on History. If you don't even know the Yorubas have had a booming clothing industry how can you understand basic principle of African historical research?

prove it to me your ancestors wore clothes b4 d advent of the white man i can prove to you when my ancestors was started wearing clothes

so prove it to me

Nodogragra4me:
Bishop Oyedepo doesn't know I exist let alone an inconsequential character like freeze ... a man that is scarcely around will have time to read about the opinions of a certain freeze ...this man doesn't even know about the existence of Some reigning pastors.

who is telling you such trash are you is son or brother to know how busy he could be even the God he is serving is not so busy that he doest watch over is people so who is a oyedepo condemnation spread faster than praise my friend mentions with proves

criticism is working thankgod for the lives of daday freeze and fellow nairalanders

nigeria is for everyone not only the government alone we sohuld also criticise fellow big men in the enviroment who will wait for government to come and tire roads

criticism is working thankgod for the lives of daday freeze and fellow nairalanders

nigeria is for everyone not only the government alone we sohuld also criticise fellow big men in the enviroment who will wait for government to come and tire roadsl

macof:
It's not even about ikaledehan or izoduwa as a person. It's about how this ikaledehan can be connected to Oduduwa. Have you ever wondered that they could be two different persons?

1.
Let's look at the name izoduwa- "path of success" as bini says it means. Oduduwa - principle of creation as Yoruba says it means. Clearly the two names don't correlate

2.
The name "oduduwa" is known in Bini. There are traditions and sayings using the name "Oduduwa" or "Oodua". Especially when talking about the Oba or Uhe(Ife)
In the Oba's oriki(The only person in Edo culture with oriki) he is called "ovi'oodua n'uhe" son of Oduduwa of Ife not son of Izoduwa, he is also called son of Adimula

How come bini have tradions of Adimula aka Oduduwa and only connect him with Ikaledehan through stories that are not backed by traditions?



White clothes are sacred in Yoruba culture, Ife especially, it denotes oneness with the spirits, purity so to say. Yoruba traditionally practice a priest-king system and at that time it was even more serious with the likes of Obatala always wearing white, it became an Ife symbol of royalty and spirituality. So oduduwa wore white as well. Coral beads are Yorubawide accessories, long, short, round, straight all over yorubaland. And coral bead making was the profession of Oduduwa's wife. how does that connect oduduwa with Bini?

That staff is a King-priest staff that all 13 Obas before oduduwa carried. It has nothing to do with trekking from Bini. Also the statue of oduduwa you are making all this silly observations from is not imagined from his first time in Ife but long into his reign...you could clearly see the crown, couldn't you?


Do you know where Ooni of Ife goes to collect the crown of Oduduwa? Well...the makeshift, cause the real one was taken by Owa Idanre. That's the same place oduduwa's ancestral shrine is said to be.

Jacob Olupona wrote a book "City of 201 Gods" about Ife where he observed some of the rituals of Oduduwa, nothing about Bini. It is so localized that it is safe to assume oduduwa was of the very land

u make me laff lets take it scientifical historically on this ur quote

white clothes and beads was never in yoruba land b4 the british came as well as wearing clothes these are present adaptating in the 17 and 18century when yorubas encountered the white men who then brought clothes for the yorubas all your ancestors where naked b4 precolonial era unlike the hausas and fulani who LovePeddler clothes to cover thier bodies due to thier religion

back to the benins. the benis where also naked before the encountered the poutuguese in the 14c as a matter of fact tue portuguese brought the white linean to the benin as well as coral bead which was gotten by the portuguese while sailining the coast we traded pepper and rubber as well as non indigenous slaves to the portuguese in return of clothes and guns
thats why you see the benins chiefs clothing like that of a priest

scientifically izoduwa was born centuries afer the Portuguese visit to the benins who got to wear the benin regalia as a prince that is a white clothe and a red round bead and which we know the yorubas dont wear round beads and not even red beads to start with

obatala is joke story a person who is not even revered in yorubas history his story is only brought up to propagate controversy scientifically that is nothing like obatala that his joke story inshort youruba stories as whole is full of lies

a yoruba stories says obatala is the elder brother of oduduwa who was drunk and oduduwa took advantage and became king instead of him

anoda account says he was the first yoruba king who ruled and oduduwa came centuries later

do u know what science will say about obatala he never existed and even if he existed he didnt come from sky and didnt wear white clothes so you dont know ur ancestors you just paste what your father told you in your skull

even benin has a myth of creation smilar to the yorubas but it is dicarded because therw is no scientific back and to tell you the first ruler ogiso who came from was also said that he whor white clothes like that of obatala but we all know is all a myth so we dont add it to history and i believe it was the benin son who took story of creation to ile ife and yoruba adopted it like Christians adopted the story of creation from the biblr

omo bush meat all the way and for those who are supporting western life exclude china those pple even go as far as eating infant

bush meat is nutritious we dont kill something will kill it and if something kill it is waste so why not kill nutrienised our body perhaps the economy is bad meat are expensive to buy when meet become cheap bush meet becomes useless quote me when meet becomes cheap in nigeria

Olu317:
I can see that you guys are so misled by false information given to you all. Funny thing is that Odu'a didn't come from Bini because I am his descendants. My ancestors worship what is called IRUNMOLÈ.....And your ogiso didn't have anything that is linked to any animals in your own account. So get it henceforth that Odu'a didn't come from Ogodomigodo.. Period. Do you even know the meaning of Adimlia /Adumunia, which was his name? So, forget your IDU's claim. Even archeology between ILE IFE and IDU/IBini,showed ILE IFE as being older... You are dealing with a man who knows his ancestors history.... Quit such notion of any link between Odu'a and BINI.

prove this wrong if ure a true descendant of oduduwa and u dont believe ure from benin am sorry ure lost and nd u havnt fiund ur way but if you believe ur ancestors descended from heaven or treaked from mecca den ure foolish needs to be arrrested by the police

this is an image showing a rounded bead in his neck which the yorubas dont use only d benins it shows him tieing a white in his waist showing is also a benin what prove do you want no ones knows oduduwa in mecca

macof:
Recent fabrications also include the bini claim

There is no evidence that Oduduwa came from bini. This is sub Saharan Africa where coronation rites, rituals and traditions, festivals, songs etc are used to tell stories for example; when the owa idanre says he took oduduwa's crown he proves it by showing the crown itself in a festival similar to Olojo in Ife, in idanre there are songs and rituals of how those who came to retrieve the crown have failed

When Ooni wants to show that he defeated Obatala it is proven through a festival. How Moremi saved Ife is portrayed in a festival

What festival exist in bini that portrays oduduwa as a Bini man? What oriki or song? What part of the coronation rites of the Oba of bini portrays oduduwa?
What saying connects oduduwa to Bini?

Some shameless morons who are driven by sentiments and not passion for history came out to say something that has no basis in any their own culture or anybody's culture and more fools like you believe

What is the difference between the Bini claim and Mecca? Both lack evidence and consistency


If you want to know oduduwa's origin, to go Ife...theres an oduduwa cult, there are families who have been tasked for over 800years to pass down stories about oduduwa and keep his groove - the leader of these families is called Obadio.

Coronation rites of the ooni tells us where his origin is, where he first goes to collect a crown (a makeshift crown, his the real one is now in Idanre)

yea ...i get ur point ikaladeran izoduwa known as oduduwa have so many songs sang of his journey to ile ife and he was about to be killed many bears is name in benin names like izoduwa,oduwa,osagieduwa and so on his name is been immortalised in streets in benin he was never a king in benin tho so more would have been documented about him .when you go to the benin musuem you will see other related iteams of him

oromiyan on the hand had a vast history because he strarted a new era he was the one who started the benin prince not seen his father till is death because he was never close to his son eweka .eweka was been trained by his grandfather and other noble chiefs he was only communicating with is dad through telegraphy stool which is still found in d museum uptill now

note: izoduwa wasnt a big figure in the benin history unlike how he is in yoruba land
we acknowledged oba ewuare 1 than him because he made benin what it is .the yoruba decided to document everything about izoduwa doesnt makes him not a benin man a wise mam once said a king isnt respected in his own home that's what happended to izoduwa but that doesnt still gives prove he is not a benin man his dressing has said he is a benin man not arab him wearing a white cloth and rounded coral bead and chains showing he was about to be killed a staff showing he has been treaking in the forest only these will tell u is a benin man

Frankygeo:
I almost took this guy's picture to one baba in our village that year. I am sure you guys know what year I am talking about

lol.keep missing yakubu

2010 wc

helpishere:
That number 2 point made all story about oduduwa fake. Did he fall from the sky like Satan did or Ufo plane dropped him using the chains since there were no parachute in those days. Laudate. The way you mediate in this matter makes me wonder what is really going on. The story about Lagos is being told by the Lagosians and not by us and we don't need to know Bembe'said igiogbe before we believe his story. I know of a carribean girl who wanted to go back to Africa because she wanted to know her roots. People are doing funny Stuff to get to know their roots while the ones who should ask questions about their origin are claiming super power. England colonised India and Pakistan and Nigeria and yet they were not more than 20m. I think our Oba should establish a commonwealth of Benin territories

i think thats a good idea but it wont work at all due to language differences ,tribalism and so on it will go ahead becoming a disaster

Olu317:
You seem not to have read what I sent and you definitely owe me an apology. I mentioned descendants of Olusegun Aganga....... There is a clear difference. Go back and read again on my previous post before the last. Then, Edo people whose historical account contradict the true issue need be corrected. This has been the way at which they distort history. And such need serious correction because of the future. Kindly give these a good thought . If I may ask you, how would you feel, if someone lied about your own personal ancestors history? How would you feel if people send thrash online about your ancestors migration pattern? And how would you feel, if people lied about the name your ancestors call God? You can't understand my purpose if you don't understand my reasons.

benin havnt lied at all far back then benin was so developed that they documented history through art thats how benin still got all the oba faces right from the ogisos to present era. and basic fact of oduduwa are still in benin musuem nd in the palace

for those who believed benin was speaking yoruba language in the olds i wonder how they think .benin was an empire who ruled so many ethnic group and spreaded most of thier words to those of his colonies same as the gods they worshipped

basic fact oduduwa was from benin not from mecca
1. he was dressed in white clothes hunged around is neck just like the late ovaramen hunged is on is neck

2. his beed on his neck was round just like the benin round beeds

3.the chains on his hands which shows he was about to be killed in his hometown

false stories about oduduwa which aint true due to scientific analysis

1.migration from mecca that so wrong during is migration he could have established other settlement along the way but it didnt because it is false story

2.descending from the sky that 100 percent myth even krishna the son of god had to come through a human no historians accept that unproven fact

3.distance from Mecca to ille ife is 1000 of miles which was never possible of him making the journey
to my conclusion the benins have a more valid history of oduduwa than the yorubas

gypsey:
what? even chicken? goat?, lamb and cows? you don't mean it?
this reptileous creature you believe has the right to live as humans, has killed more children in India and pakistan than malaria and HIV.
I think the poor parents who have lost their loved children to these Disgusting snakes will disagree with your sentiments and I concur with them too.

Animals are created so that humans can kill and eat them, anything else other than that will be bonkers! Ciao!

yes is true sir lions ,snakes dont deserve to live what for na unless for food

millhouse:
pythons have the right to eat other animals but we don't have the right to eat pythons?

oga why?

in machel jackson voice. huh...she's black she white yea yea...i cnt imagine this girl is black nd white i so thank god i found her and i dont care if she is black or white yea yea...