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Politics › Re: How To Succeed As A Politician In Nigeria by hahn(m): 8:18pm On Jul 03, 2016
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Christianity Etc › Re: Myths About Human Disappearance, What Has Science Got To Say? by hahn(m): 8:08pm On Jul 03, 2016
People disappear everywhere in the world. It could be as a result of kidnaps or accidents where the victim is unable to get identified and his family contacted or simple cases of the person running away.

Some people will choose to investigate, others will rather attribute "spiritual" reasons to the disappearance and do nothing about it.

undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Nairaland Atheists make shocking approval of Incest by hahn(m): 10:13am On Jul 03, 2016
Farmerforlife:
Please point it out to me.
KingEbukasBlog:
God is the lawgiver and at that time , He permitted it . Simple

Answer my simple question . Why is consensual sex with a sibling or parent for the sake of pleasure wrong ?
Or are you cherry picking? undecided

You omitted to mention traditionalism, which I clearly included. African culture and tradition also relied on religion and religious taboos... or do atheists believe in traditional religions? Do you have more evidence for the existence of Amadioha or Sango than you have for God?
Maybe you do not know the meaning of traditionalism.

traditionalism
trəˈdɪʃ(ə)n(ə)lɪz(ə)m/Submit
noun
the upholding or maintenance of tradition, especially so as to resist change.
historical
the theory that all moral and religious truth comes from divine revelation passed on by tradition, human reason being incapable of attaining it.

Source: Google
So, your claim that The reason why in.cest is frowned upon in society, is due to past religious influence on culture, whether Islam, Christianity is void and can't include the word traditionalism because culture IS traditionalism

It is for this reason that I expected you to use 'logic, fact and evidence' to answer the original question, rather than resort to a personal attack on the op and his God's tenets. A personal opinion based on hot air alone is going to be subject to ridicule, or so atheists like your good self claim. Hard evidence is everything, or there is no belief, you tell us. Atheists have morals too, and based on something more concrete than Santa Claus, you indignantly assert. This is the time to show us that basis.
You need evidence for my opinion? You need to google the meaning of the word "opinion"

Ok, so no science in your individual case. What then is the logic, fact or evidence behind your opinion, whatever that is?
Read your comment again undecided

Here we go again, resorting to personal attacks. My opinion is irrelevant here, since I am not an atheist, and the question was directed at atheists. Please just answer the question and leave Abraham alone. He was not an atheist either.
Yeah. And neither did he exist undecided


Ok, you are right. When you are through venting, I hope you finally find your way to answering the actual question asked of you.
Your questions are myopic and half thought to say the least

Oh really? I do have my opinion, but it is based on my Holy Book, which you inform me is a fairy tale far from reality. Please help me to replace my deluded opinion with one based on 'logic, facts and evidence'.
It is simple. Use your brain smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Nairaland Atheists make shocking approval of Incest by hahn(m): 10:04am On Jul 03, 2016
malvisguy212:
God did not sanction it that time and God did not condemn it as of that time. Not until the genetic defect in their DNA are weak, then God command moses to numbers the isaelites, and He set a law condemning inbreeding.
God is supposed to be all-knowing, didn't it know that inbreeding will eventually lead to a genetic defect?

God is supposed to be perfect, why did it create and sanction something he new would lead to imperfection?

God is supposed to be the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, why did it change it's mind?

undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Nairaland Atheists make shocking approval of Incest by hahn(m): 9:37am On Jul 03, 2016
malvisguy212:
Adam married his clone and you use it as an attack of God sanctioning inbreeding ? You atheist like to challenge religious people to use their brain, were is us ?

Yes jacob married his cousin, but did God sanction it ? Verse please.
God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of homosexuality.

Lot's daughters slept with their father and got pregnant making him a grandfather to his own sons. God didn't punish them.

Using your brain, does it mean that god supports incest or not regardless of it said so or not?
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Nairaland Atheists make shocking approval of Incest by hahn(m): 9:17am On Jul 03, 2016
Farmerforlife:
No, I didnt. But it should not have been pertinent to any response given by an atheist to the main question, since after all, you do not believe in God, and it was evidently wrong to respond to the main question by saying "shebi your God permitted it" when you are an atheist.
That one dey. But you can still say say something regarding his statement

Atheists pride themselves for only believing things with REASON. The reason why in.cest is frowned upon in society, is due to past religious influence on culture, whether Islam, Christianity or traditionalism...
Lol. This is wrong. Even before Africa was invaded by Europeans or the Saudis and had Islam and Christianity forced upon us, many Africans traditions frowned upon it.

none of which atheism approves of. Also, the question did not ask specifically about you as an individual. It asked whether it is considered right or wrong by atheists, and the rational atheist reason(s) for making that choice.
Atheism is not a thing. It is only a word used to describe people who do not believe in god. We do not attend any "fellowships", we do not have any "holy book" that guides the way we reason. We only depend on logic, fact and evidence. Putting this into consideration leaves us with the fact that we do not necessarily share the same views. Each atheist is entitled to his own opinion unlike theists who have to do as they are told and let the "holy spirit" or pastor or imam or holy book guide them

I was not the one that asked, but I entered expecting some highly rational, scientific explanations as to why it was right (or wrong) to sleep with one's mother or sister. Instead, I only saw bitter counter accusations by atheists; using all the 'nasty' styles of argument that they accuse fundamentalist Christians of using.
Not all atheists are scientists. I am more of a businessman myself. All the guys above were doing was putting Bubu in his place since he said that "since god approved it, it is fine. Simple".

I am sure you agree with him and that is why you seem unable to tell him he is wrong. That also means if "god" told you to kill someone you would, just like the psychologically challenged Abraham.

THIS is the problem with religion. The absense of independent though and the reliance of blind followership.

Grow up and make your own decisions. You are an adult undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Biblical To Say "Develop A Personal Relationship With God"? by hahn(m): 8:48am On Jul 03, 2016
Iseoluwani:
Hell isn't a nice place but your PMAN JUST TILD ME HE Z THERE AND CRYING BITTERLY
The guy na idiot before sef. Abeg help me tell am say make him cry well well. Shebi him and your own momsi dey share the same bed. I heard they fell in love grin
Politics › Re: Two Die In Stampede As Tinubu Shares Ramadan Gifts In Lagos by hahn(m): 8:33am On Jul 03, 2016
SeverusSnape:
BIG Shame.
undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Biblical To Say "Develop A Personal Relationship With God"? by hahn(m): 8:32am On Jul 03, 2016
Iseoluwani:
Hmm!! ! I can see how wise you are from the BACK!! !


Hell doesn't exist? ??

[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]Tapa
Do you have pictures of hell? Have you visited there before? Do you have any family members that live there? undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Nairaland Atheists make shocking approval of Incest by hahn(m): 8:30am On Jul 03, 2016
Farmerforlife:
What disappointing answers. I really expected to see lucid responses backed by scientific research, instead of counter accusations (your God allows it too), deliberate misrepresentation of the question (in.cest is different from inbreeding) and appeals for mercy (stop attacking atheists).

Come on guys, surely you can do better than THAT?
So you missed where Bubu said God is the lawgiver and at that time , He permitted it . Simple abi? undecided

KingEbukasBlog:
God is the lawgiver and at that time , He permitted it . Simple
Answer my simple question . Why is consensual sex with a sibling or parent for the sake of pleasure wrong ?
Why is it wrong? The question of right or wrong differs from society to society.

I found this write up interesting after reading this thread

I'm only aware of one country (Sweden) that will knowingly marry siblings, and only half-siblings at that. That will change as full marriage equality sweeps around the world, so that an adult is free to marry and any all consenting adults. There are many other countries and a few US states where there are no laws against adult siblings having sex or living together, but they still don't have the freedom to marry.

Keep in mind, though, that not criminalizing it is not the same thing as protecting it from bigotry.

Source: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130324194742AAhgiIV
Personally though, I wouldn't sleep with a relative because I was born here in Nigeria and we frown upon such things and it doesn't make any sense to do such. That doesn't mean people do not do it in our country though.

Why do you ask?
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Biblical To Say "Develop A Personal Relationship With God"? by hahn(m): 8:16am On Jul 03, 2016
DesChyko:
You're trying to rile me. But I'm in my best teacher impression today. After having to deal with lots of students with differing personalities, I think I've met your kind at some point in time, and I know just what to do to put you in your place grin, unlike the inexperienced fellows you banter with tongue
You already did so by not making any point wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Biblical To Say "Develop A Personal Relationship With God"? by hahn(m): 8:16am On Jul 03, 2016
Iseoluwani:
Which means ur hell is certain


Ode
Lol. Wise man. Hell doesn't exist undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Biblical To Say "Develop A Personal Relationship With God"? by hahn(m): 8:12am On Jul 03, 2016
DesChyko:
For years, it has been hammered that a subsection with a profession of faith should be placed for Christians and this plea has been continuously ignored. For years, we've still had to make do with these kind of blasphemous posts. It's not like we will go violent over such, but the way western civilisation is raping our culture may be likened to what these fellows mean for Christianity.

Lalasticlala, Seun, OAM4J
The same exact way some people feel the religious section should be banned altogether. We do not need people spreading lies and truth and promoting "faith" instead of logic and reasoning. Whether you have a section or not, your religion will also be criticized. Do you even realize that it was because of the insults towards Islam coming from Christians that informed the decision to create a separate section for them?

Now that your own religion is under scrutiny, you are crying like a baby. Awon ti imaginary friend undecided
Family › Re: People Exchange Kids, Clothes For Food To Survive Hard Times by hahn(m): 8:09am On Jul 03, 2016
dearpreye:
Sure some smart folks will exploit the situation but the vast majority of us won't.

Longest time sir.
Yep. Business first these days smiley
Autos › Re: .. by hahn(m): 9:11pm On Jul 02, 2016
Pinshure?
Politics › Re: Buhari Without School Cert Is Better Than Jonathan With A Doctorate Degree by hahn(m): 9:09pm On Jul 02, 2016
PUSIDRILA:
Let me look for rizla to wrap ma cool weed first before I comment.
Puff and pass bro. E be like say na to home grow and sell Mary remain. Men must console themselves wink
Family › Re: People Exchange Kids, Clothes For Food To Survive Hard Times by hahn(m): 9:04pm On Jul 02, 2016
dearpreye:
Unfortunately it will get to us. As it bites on our friends and relatives, we get to feel the heat. I'm already feeling the heat. A couple of mine guys have lost their jobs.
Apparently, we are all in it. sad

But it is also the perfect time to exploit the situation wink
Politics › Re: PHOTOS: Rotimi Amaechi Celebrates His Birthday In Style by hahn(m): 8:56pm On Jul 02, 2016
Steal maggi and get burnt in the market square. Steal big and become a king wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Are There Still Africans In Africa? (PICS) by hahn(m): 7:47pm On Jul 02, 2016
UndisputedBosom:
OP no be force to accept Christianity or Islam...is just a matter of choice that we are all making freewillingly without a pointed gun to our heads.


But if you want to go back in worshipping oracles or idols....fine nobody is hindering you and stop making a thread out of it...









Hope i made myself cleared grin
Lol.

The only difference between African religion is that Africans make idols out of wood and stone and worship them while muslims and christians worship thin air.

Christians even take it a step further by eating "bread" calling it flesh of Jesus and drinking "wine"(I swear I have tasted zobo in a church grin ) and believe they are drinking the blood of Jesus. undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Are There Still Africans In Africa? (PICS) by hahn(m): 7:41pm On Jul 02, 2016
CAPSLOCKED:

BRO... THESE DAYS EVEN NATIVE DOCTORS ATTEND CHURCH SERVICES ON SUNDAYS! undecided
Don't forget to add corrupt officials. Especially undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: The Epicurean Argument On Evil And God by hahn(m): 7:35pm On Jul 02, 2016
Touchnot01:
There you go, ive bolded your illogical statements. When you really choose to be open minded, you will see how much those claims are devoid of evidence and logic.
You might as well cal the bible a science textbook or point out where God commanded humans not to work. Even luke was a physician.
I dont do this but all you and others show here everyday is obsession and hate for a non-existent God. Most of these threads are just weak, pathetic and immature noises. You all make it obvious why people hate God. Its never logic.
Dont bother quoting me.
undecided
Crime › Re: Shocking! Parrot Set To Testify In Court Against The Person Who Killed Its Owner by hahn(m): 4:58pm On Jul 02, 2016
Not in Africa undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: The Epicurean Argument On Evil And God by hahn(m): 4:36pm On Jul 02, 2016
Touchnot01:
Exactly!!! Somehow they think the lives of humans will be better without religion. Other irreligious countries may be doing fine but irreligion is not atheism. Many irreligious people are spiritual and believe in a Creator. Hardly can one mention an atheist country (not irreligious ones) that has not been sick in their pursue for dominance. We can also see atheists countries such as north korea. History has proven that suppression of religious freedom has to retain brutality. These atheists are no different, the level at which they dedicate their lives to God and religion is enough proof that they would do anything to make it go away.

Besides, atheism has done absolutely nothing for humanity. The progress of science and technology has been largely due to religious minds. I then wonder where they got this craze to preach that getting people to be atheists means a better society. Billions of people find meaning with God, this fact disturbs atheists. Instead of spending their time to help humanity, they prefer to invest heavily in criticizing christians. At least we know that no one this much time on a lie.
Atheism is not even a thing. It is only a word used to describe people who do not believe in the existence of a god and the primary reason for that is the fact that there is no proof for any god.

Imagine there is a bus full of people and they are involved in an accident. Let us assume no one dies. The Christians in the bus will attribute it to Jehovah, the muslims to Allah, the Buddhists to Buddha, the Hindus to Krishna etc assuming all religions are represented even though no one can prove it.

There are lots of people who contributed to science who were theists but also do not forget that a lot of scientists were killed by Christians for saying simple things like stating the earth was round when the church insisted it was flat. Also, many of the scientists all used scientific processes to come to their conclusions. Not one single Christian scientist who ever made any reasonable finding or accomplishment did it by having "faith" or by reading about it in the bible. Likewise with other religions. They achieved what they did by following the scientific process. Remember that all other religions are represented in the science world. Which of the gods will we now attribute their successes to?

The cure for malaria wasn't in the bible and despite millions of people that died(and are still dying) and none of the gods did(or are doing) anything about it.

People are bad not because of their religion or lack of it but because of natural human tendencies. For every atheist you mention that is sick in the head, one can go ahead and mention 100 theists who are also sick. ALL our corrupt leaders are theists but that didn't stop them from looting funds and even pastors and imams have gone to endorse this obvious looters in their "holy" houses.

It is so sad that people choose to defend obvious lies.

Tell people that there is a god in the sky and they will believe. Tell them that paint is wet and they will have to touch to confirm.

It is plain ridiculous undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Farewell To Nairaland. by hahn(m): 4:12pm On Jul 02, 2016
Mediapace:
You are wrong brother,jesus existed and he is still existing!!!
Lol. Only in your imagination grin

If you don't believe jesus exist then you mustn't believe :
*There is anything like moon
In the night, look up in the sky you will see the moon

*There is anything like Seun
Lol. Without Seun there will be no nairaland

*Anything like jupiter,pluto e.t.c.
Lol. Buy a good telescope

*There is anything like death
Close your eyes and walk in the middle of any expressway close to you

since you haven't been to/experienced/seen any of those listed above
undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Farewell To Nairaland. by hahn(m): 3:53pm On Jul 02, 2016
Mediapace:
Any prove ?
There is no proof Jesus ever existed aside from the bible. Just the same way Spiderman only exists in movies undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Farewell To Nairaland. by hahn(m): 3:38pm On Jul 02, 2016
Mediapace:
Seun a day will come for me and you to tackle ourself on this atheist issue

i'll make sure i convert you back to chrisTIAN And destroy all the thought of atheist in your heart

JESUS IS COMING SOON BE READY
JESUS NEVER EXISTED undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Farewell To Nairaland. by hahn(m): 9:08am On Jul 02, 2016
Unique04:
I am a Christian, I cannot be in a forum where my God is being ridiculed by some persons including the founder of the forum. My Bible teaches me that, blessed is he who is not found in the company of the ungodly. I registered in nairaland last year after many years of visiting because I thought it was a forum to meet and interact with fellow Nigerians. I have suddenly come to realize that there is a conspiracy to ridicule the Christian faith and turn young Christians into atheists. I am a solid Christian and nothing can derail me from my faith, but I can't stand the number of baby Christians who get confused and carried away with all this Atheist and anti-christain posts I find on front page.
*modified*
I came to this conclusion after reading some of seun osewa's posts on Christianity.
With this I say farewell to all nairalanders.
Tell your god to create an account on nairaland and prove itself already undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: I Am On The Verge Of Giving Up by hahn(m): 8:13pm On Jul 01, 2016
lordnicklaus:
Scholar8200, it is quite surprising you think I am actually posting this due to unanswered prayers. Though things are going fine with me but I write on behalf of others who suffer in this vast globe..... Because things go well with me and not with others doesn't make me satisfied. Infact it pains me when some theists say people who suffer and die are more righteous than I am but God loves me even as a sinner. The question that goes on in my mind is, doesn't God love those who died?
Also, you quoted from that primitive text called the bible which is actually a contradictory ideas of people who claimed they were inspired by the infinite boss of all knowldege yet there are inconsistences and discrepancies in a self acclaimed holy book. It even amazes me that there are similarities between bible text and earlier works such as Enuma Elish, Epic of Gilgamesh, Wisdoms of Amenemope e.t.c.
It shows that the bible was a borrowed idea and not independent as people claim. Besides, what makes you think there are no other gods existing? What would you do if you found out that Zeus or Enki was the true God? Besides, El which is the Hebrew for "God" is a Canaanite deity likewise Yahweh. So, the Jews picked a favorite God and dumped the others (Baal, Ashtoreth, Ashima). I am also disturbed by the ignominies and opprobrious acts commited in the Old Testament, all in the name of Jehovah.

My friend it is time we seek truth outside the bible. Before us is a world with hidden treasures. We just have to summon courage to dig it up.


Cc johnydon22 hahn lepasharon Scholar8200 cloudgoddess sweetcocoa IamDiabolic herzern nobilis
Bro, keep reading the bible and keep asking questions. The more you read it, the more you realize it is full of shit_
Jokes Etc › Re: 13 Things That Are Just Too True About Nigerian Parents And Phone Calls by hahn(m): 8:03pm On Jul 01, 2016
bqlekan:
[/quote][quote author=Smellymouth post=47113554].... cool
giftybae:
......
iykekelvins:
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Agbayas undecided
Politics › Re: Iara Oshiomhole Covers Vanguard Allure Magazine by hahn(m): 8:01pm On Jul 01, 2016
HungerBAD:
APC winning everyday.

Now our "Wives" are on magazines for their beauty and brains. To my friends the WAILERS here,take a look at this beauty.

Then print her pictures, put the pictures somewhere in your bedroom so that you can wake up to it everyday,and when you see it,tell your self this is how success looks like.
"Beauty" is not putting food on our table undecided
Business › Re: Hilarious Phone Call Between A 419 Scammer And A Woman(audio) by hahn(m): 7:57pm On Jul 01, 2016
Viktor1983:
Chief Hahn , as adenuga, Jim ovia and elumelu them networth reduce, na so my own reduce too...
These days we don't eat to belle ful but to have something in the stomach..
e go better sha..

Seun has been posting a lot of interesting topics lately, you should check em out
Lol. You billionaires too like to dey code grin

Yeah, I noticed. Been busy with my biz o jare. Season go soon start wink
Food › Re: Are There Vegans/ Vegetarians In The House?? Lets Meet Here!! by hahn(m): 7:56pm On Jul 01, 2016
Sky777:
More land and forest is destroyed for animal agriculture than anything else.
Good point

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