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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Created God, Is God Outside Of Time? by hahn(m): 11:54am On May 18, 2016
mii4u:
we are all entitled to our own opinion, but I strongly believe in the uncreated Creator, the One that was, the One that is and the One that is to come
Can you prove that it exists?
Business › Beware: New Phishing Scam! by hahn(op): 11:49am On May 18, 2016
So, I was going through my email and saw this new method of phishing scam. I will like to note that what most Nigerians refer to as hacking is actually a phishing scam. Check the different definitions below:

Phishing scams are attempts by scammers to trick you into giving out personal information such as your bank account numbers, passwords and credit card numbers.

Hack: gain unauthorized access to data in a system or computer.

So, what is the new trick?

Here is a sample of the email I received from "firstbank, zenith bank and diamond bank. I do not even have an account with them. I only have an account with diamond. However, the emails and the idea behind them are quite similar

According to the email from zenith bank:

Subject: Monthly Bulletin Charge of NGN 12.100:00

Dear Esteemed Customer,
On our records, you registered for our Zenith Customer Digest monthly bulletin and this comes with a monthly charge of N12,100:00.
Please we would like to ask you to confirm this request:
follow the cancel reference below

https://ibank.zenithbank.com/internetbanking/#to Cancel Here

We do apologize and regret all inconvenience es this may caused.

Thank you for choosing Zenith International Bank



Here are pictures of the mails

https://surestakes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/zenithbank-phishing-scam.jpg

https://surestakes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/firstbank-phishing-scam.jpg

https://surestakes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/diamondbank-phishing-scam.jpg

The trick is pretty obvious. According to the email, you have a pending monthly bulletin which you are supposed to be charged N12,100 for and you are asked to cancel it blah blah blah. This is the main point of the trick. They know you will immediately hurry to stop it and so when you click the link, you will be redirected to their mock up website.

Things to note:

1) Even when it SEEMS like the email if from your bank, it is not. as shown in the picture below:

https://surestakes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/diamondbank-phishing-scam-1.jpg

2) The links your are supposed to click on are only masked to look like they are from your bank. You can identify fake links by

a) Rest your cursor over the link. You will notice, if you are using a pc, that the link is totally different from what is actually shown in the pic below:

https://surestakes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/zenithbank-phishing-scam-1.jpg

Normally, the fraudsters will design a perfect replica to your banks web page. Unfortunately, as at the time of writing this, the scam pages have been brought down.

However, typically you will be asked to put in your login details and maybe you bvn number. As soon as you click "login", your account details go straight your the scammers email and they can do whatever they want with your account.

The idea is usually to send as much emails and hopefully, you might just have an account with one of the banks.

Share with your friends and keep your money safe.

Have a nice day smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: For The Sake Of The Kids And Future Generation by hahn(m): 9:37am On May 18, 2016
spicyuzo:
So I was about leaving the chapel earlier on today and then I saw this spectacle.

These kids were kneeling before a statue of our lady of Perpetual Help, making their sincere prayers. I was moved, The little girl was slightly audible, I was tempted to eavesdrop.

These kids were on their way back from school and decided to make a stop at the chapel for a prayer session.


[size=30pt]Dear God, Even if for the sake of the innocent kids and the unborn generation, Please save our country Nigeria and make us great. Amen[/size]


The purportedly knowledgeable folks have successfully made a mess our precious country.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Created God, Is God Outside Of Time? by hahn(m): 10:47pm On May 17, 2016
mii4u:
pls if u have sought the rational answer, pls share with us, so who created God?
Throughout time, man has always created god. That is why you will notice that all gods share similar traits with the culture of the man that creates it. All gods are jealous, have bad tempers, punish and bless when they are praised. These are typical human flaws.

Zeus, Yaweh, Jehovah, Sango, Buddha, Krishna and other 4000 gods are all products of men. Especially those who desire to rule and pursue power.

The only difference is that older religions such as African trad religions, ancient Greek, Indian etc religion all created idols to serve as a representation of their various gods while Muslims and Christians created an "invincible" god. I mean, who would you take seriously? A man bowing down to a stone or a man bowing down to nothing?

At the end of the day, they are all worshipping their imaginations
Agriculture › Re: Why Garri Is Costly by hahn(m): 7:51pm On May 17, 2016
divineappo:
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Lol
Christianity Etc › Re: I Never Knew This!!!(must Read) by hahn(m): 7:37pm On May 17, 2016
nzaghacollins:
are you preparing to meet God @hahn. Jesus is coming soon. Will you be at the super. Decide now
Food. Food. Food. Is that all you live for?

Better remind him that there are millions of kids who die yearly as a result of starvation. THEY need the food undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is There So Much Hate For Islam ? by hahn(m): 7:34pm On May 17, 2016
UyiIredia:
I think its the atheists that are gullible, irrational, deluded and misinformed. And foolish as well, let's not forget that.
tongue

Touche grin
Christianity Etc › Re: I Never Knew This!!!(must Read) by hahn(m): 5:37pm On May 17, 2016
[quote author=nzaghacollins post=45711884][/quote]undecided

Did you take time to compose that or did you write it from the top of your head undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is There So Much Hate For Islam ? by hahn(m): 5:35pm On May 17, 2016
UyiIredia:
The Crusades where a legitimate response to Islamic aggression on European soil. The Slave Trade wasn't pioneered by Christianity though I have no doubt that so-called Christians took part. The KKK wasn't Christian at all but a bunch of white supremacists who hated blacks for NO just cause. Furthermore these things you mentioned were in the past in recent times Christians have not been violent.
That is only because Christianity has already been forced down the throats of the world. In most instances, christianity was spread via the slave trade, tortue, genocide etc

The christians in the US took slavery quite seriously and justified this "business" with quotes from the bible. The bible, Jesus and other fictional characters in the bible have been used over centuries to aid the slave be more "submissive" to their slave masters.

I do agree that Christianity has progressed over the centuries. It is now grown from a witch hunting/burning, ownership of slaves, "divine" rulership to a business any well trained motivational businessman can use to exploit it's gullible, irrational, deluded and misinformed followership.

Islam is on a whole other level of "ignorant". They actually believe Allah itself wrote te Quran undecided
Celebrities › Re: OMG !!! Checkout The Marriage List A Guy Got When He Went To Marry At Imo State by hahn(m): 5:28pm On May 17, 2016
After making this payment, I'm hoping the groom is allowed to tie a chain round her neck undecided
Foreign Affairs › Re: US Congress Man MIKE WEBB Forgot To Close His porn Tabs by hahn(m): 5:19pm On May 17, 2016
Oh, and he's a christian. undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Noahs Ark vs Queen Mary ll by hahn(m): 5:17pm On May 17, 2016
Virginsince1997:
You mean God works in mysterious ways undecided
I would have said confused ways. But mysterious will suffice undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is There So Much Hate For Islam ? by hahn(m): 5:14pm On May 17, 2016
UyiIredia:
There is hatred because Islam is a religion of violence not a religion of peace as some adherents claim.
Christianity was once known as the religion of peace. They went on to pioneer the crusades, the spanish inquisition, slave trade and the kkk.

Op, it is actually the other way round. Islam is intolerant of "human right"s let alone the right to one's belief.

Islam is a cancer and it also promotes a deep ignorance.
Christianity Etc › Re: Noahs Ark vs Queen Mary ll by hahn(m): 5:10pm On May 17, 2016
Yes. But it is only possible in the bible. God is great and mysterious like that grin
Christianity Etc › Re: I Never Knew This!!!(must Read) by hahn(m): 5:09pm On May 17, 2016
Do you have any proof that your god or Jesus Christ exist/ever existed? @ op
Politics › Re: Abuja CCTV Cameras, Still Working? by hahn(m): 5:07pm On May 17, 2016
They work. As decoration undecided
Agriculture › Re: Why Garri Is Costly by hahn(m): 5:05pm On May 17, 2016
I like the way you think smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: What Do You Hate The Most About Church Service? by hahn(op): 2:58pm On May 15, 2016
Freksy:
No human authority can give life, yet, they punish erring citizens by life imprisonment, even by meting out capital punishment. Does this mean human authority, who can’t even give life, but take, do not love their citizens?
Human authority give punishment to citizens when they err. It is simply a question of keeping the citizens in check. Religion IS politics and it is nothing more than a tool in the hand of authority to control the masses. Laws vary from community to community. In the US, you can walk into several stores and buy a gun but you cannot do the same in Nigeria. The question of civil laws vary depending on the culture and people. And there are international laws that apply across borders.

The constitution doesn't claim to be all loving. The constitution doesn't claim you will be forgiven for believing in the son of the judge. The constitution doesn't permit one part to kill the other and say "oh, they are my chosen ones so what they did is for MY glory". The constitution is consistent. If you kill someone in the north, you get the same punishment(unless if you get leg of course).

The bible is inconsistent and it's god is partial, genocidal, narcissistic, confused, incompetent and non existent. All wrapped into one word. Imaginary.

You have spoken, and I have gotten your message. Do I have your picture?
Check my profile or follow add me on fb @ Onassis Hahn undecided

Still waiting for the picture of your god though wink

Money paid to you can be used for you.

They use the money to build, equip and beautify places where he will be worshiped. They use the money to sow his words in many hearts in various ways. …. Etc.
I thought god didn't need anything. All of a sudden, he needs tiny buildings to be worshiped in? He needs private jets, nice cars, bodyguards, mansions etc while millions of children die of starvation? While millions of people die from diseases? Do you realize that

As a result almost 9.2 million children under-five die every year. A further 3.3 million babies are stillborn. Most of the 25,000 children under five that die each day are concentrated in the world's poorest countries in sub-Saharan Africa and South Asia. Source: www.who.int/pmnch/media/press_materials/fs/fs_mdg4_childmortality/en/

and your god need places to be worshipped? Isn't something wrong here? Isn't that a corrupt god? Using money that should be diverted to better things to fulfil it's desire to have songs and praises rendered to it for eternity? Isn't this a pure case of misplaced priorities? undecided

Would you reprimand a child for taking and eating an apple that he knows was not meant for him; in fact, was warned against. Is such a child disobedient because the apple taste so bitter?
Sure I will. But I will not place curses on him and his generation nor burn him and his generation, even the ones unborn, in hell. That would only make me a psychopath. A loving father would spank, forgive and move on. Jehovah claims to be all loving but still has not found it within itself to forgive the devil. That is what is referred as a bad temper. undecided

How? A little substance please. Note that not all believes hell is a place of eternal torment with fire.
Revelation 21:8 ESV / 173 helpful votes

But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

Matthew 25:41 ESV / 95 helpful votes

“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

Romans 2:6-8 ESV / 86 helpful votes

He will render to each one according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury.

Matthew 25:46 ESV / 73 helpful votes

And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

Romans 6:23 ESV / 58 helpful votes

For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Revelation 20:15 ESV / 56 helpful votes

And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

Source: https://www.openbible.info/topics/going_to_hell
Form light and create darkness, create peace (that is, for his exiled people) and creating calamity (for Babylon), …. Read the verses preceding and following 7 open-mindedly and get the import of Isaiah 45:7.

Isaiah 45:1-7New International Version (NIV)

45 “This is what the Lord says to his anointed,
to Cyrus, whose right hand I take hold of
to subdue nations before him
and to strip kings of their armor,
to open doors before him
so that gates will not be shut:
2 I will go before you
and will level the mountains[a];
I will break down gates of bronze
and cut through bars of iron.
3 I will give you hidden treasures,
riches stored in secret places,
so that you may know that I am the Lord,
the God of Israel, who summons you by name.
4 For the sake of Jacob my servant,
of Israel my chosen,
I summon you by name
and bestow on you a title of honor,
though you do not acknowledge me.
5 I am the Lord, and there is no other;
apart from me there is no God.
I will strengthen you,
though you have not acknowledged me,
6 so that from the rising of the sun
to the place of its setting
people may know there is none besides me.
I am the Lord, and there is no other.
7 I form the light and create darkness,
I bring prosperity and create disaster;
I, the Lord, do all these things.


I doubt you realize just how ridiculous the whole statement is. God here sounds like a pitbull in a bad mood.

undecided
Christianity Etc › What Do You Hate The Most About Church Service? by hahn(op): 9:37am On May 15, 2016
I remember when I still used to go to church to serve my imagination(god). What I hated the most, and eventually pushed me away from religion generally was the fact that you cannot ask the preacher questions while he is preaching.

Questions like:

Preacher: And John 3:16 says, that for god so loved world he gave his only begotten son. That whoever believes in him shall perish and not have ever lasting life.

Me: What is god's gain by burning people who he created? If god is all forgiving, why can't he just forgive them and move on? Who everlasting life epp?

Preacher: God told me......

Me: Do you have a record of the conversation? Do you have a picture of god?

Preacher: Do not rob god of his money. Pay your tithe.

Me: How do you intend to transfer god's money, after we have paid it to you, to him? Which bank account does he use? What does he use the money for?

Preacher: We are sinners because Eve ate the apple!

Me: If apples are that bad, why do they taste so sweet today?

Preacher: God loves you

Me: Then why is he thretening to send me to hell

Preacher: Satan is evil

Me: But god created evil. Isaiah 45:7, I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things.

Etc.

Add yours grin
Events › Re: Aso-ebi Palaver: See What The High Cost Of Being A Bridesmaid Has Caused by hahn(m): 9:29am On May 15, 2016
This is why I will always love my wife smiley
Politics › Re: Ambode Meets The CEO Of Yamaha Motors In Lagos (photos) by hahn(m): 8:44pm On May 13, 2016
ichommy:
grin nah Japanese Olodo cheesy
All na Ching Chong grin
Islam › Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by hahn(m): 8:08pm On May 13, 2016
Newnas:
Sorry, but the Quran and sunnah are both from Allah.

Surah An-Najm, Verse 2-4:
مَا ضَلَّ صَاحِبُكُمْ وَمَا غَوَىٰ

Your companion (Muhammad SAW) has neither gone astray nor has erred.

وَمَا يَنطِقُ عَنِ الْهَوَىٰ

Nor does he speak of (his own) desire.

إِنْ هُوَ إِلَّا وَحْيٌ يُوحَىٰ

It is only an Inspiration that is inspired.
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

Surah An-Nisa, Verse 115:
وَمَن يُشَاقِقِ الرَّسُولَ مِن بَعْدِ مَا تَبَيَّنَ لَهُ الْهُدَىٰ وَيَتَّبِعْ غَيْرَ سَبِيلِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ نُوَلِّهِ مَا تَوَلَّىٰ وَنُصْلِهِ جَهَنَّمَ وَسَاءَتْ مَصِيرًا

And whoever contradicts and opposes the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) after the right path has been shown clearly to him, and follows other than the believers' way. We shall keep him in the path he has chosen, and burn him in Hell - what an evil destination.
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 31-32:
قُلْ إِن كُنتُمْ تُحِبُّونَ اللَّهَ فَاتَّبِعُونِي يُحْبِبْكُمُ اللَّهُ وَيَغْفِرْ لَكُمْ ذُنُوبَكُمْ وَاللَّهُ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ

Say (O Muhammad SAW to mankind): "If you (really) love Allah then follow me (i.e. accept Islamic Monotheism, follow the Quran and the Sunnah), Allah will love you and forgive you of your sins. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving,

قُلْ أَطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَالرَّسُولَ فَإِن تَوَلَّوْا فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يُحِبُّ الْكَافِرِينَ

Say (O Muhammad SAW): "Obey Allah and the Messenger (Muhammad SAW)." But if they turn away, then Allah does not like the disbelievers.
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran


Surah Al-Hashr, Verse 7:
مَّا أَفَاءَ اللَّهُ عَلَىٰ رَسُولِهِ مِنْ أَهْلِ الْقُرَىٰ فَلِلَّهِ وَلِلرَّسُولِ وَلِذِي الْقُرْبَىٰ وَالْيَتَامَىٰ وَالْمَسَاكِينِ وَابْنِ السَّبِيلِ كَيْ لَا يَكُونَ دُولَةً بَيْنَ الْأَغْنِيَاءِ مِنكُمْ وَمَا آتَاكُمُ الرَّسُولُ فَخُذُوهُ وَمَا نَهَاكُمْ عَنْهُ فَانتَهُوا وَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ إِنَّ اللَّهَ شَدِيدُ الْعِقَابِ

What Allah gave as booty (Fai') to His Messenger (Muhammad SAW) from the people of the townships, - it is for Allah, His Messenger (Muhammad SAW), the kindred (of Messenger Muhammad SAW), the orphans, Al-Masakin (the poor), and the wayfarer, in order that it may not become a fortune used by the rich among you. ]b]And whatsoever the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) gives you, take it, and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it), and fear Allah. Verily, Allah is Severe in punishment.[/b]
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

So what do you say about the above verses.
It is full of threats. I will never serve something that applies the use of threats and coercion to gain worship. A simple "hello" would do. undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: The Untold Story of Job By Johnydon22 by hahn(m): 3:54pm On May 13, 2016
Amberon:
The God obsession by the atheists might soon degenerate into dementia and schizophrenia.
Yes. That is why we go to church every Sunday, repeat the same prayer requests and starve ourselves in the name of fasting undecided
Celebrities › Re: Ronke Shonde: Joke Silva And Kate Henshaw React by hahn(m): 3:34pm On May 13, 2016
Omonigeriarere:
But divorce favours woman more than you, especially if you are flamboyantly rich.
In Nigeria? You must have your facts wrong. In Nigeria, the woman gets nothing. undecided
Politics › Re: Lai Mohammed's Loan Of N13million For China Trip by hahn(m): 3:33pm On May 13, 2016
How is the ministry going to pay it back? Are they going to make profit on the trip? undecided
Islam › Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by hahn(m): 3:20pm On May 13, 2016
Newnas:
Don't beg the question?

Do you want to leave the sunnah of Allah's messenger alyhissolaat wassalaam?
It is not as important as the word of Allah. If Allah didn't say it then it doesn't count. Or do you mean to say that Allah didn't know enough about those things to have penned them in the Quran? undecided
Politics › Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal – The Biggest Losers And Winners by hahn(m): 3:19pm On May 13, 2016
OgbeniAnonymous:
Nairaland no go loose?
No electricity + no fuel = phone off + Nairaland loss.
I tire o undecided
Islam › Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by hahn(m): 3:11pm On May 13, 2016
Newnas:
Do you want to take the Quran and leave the sunnah?
The Quran is Allah's word. Is it not?
Celebrities › Re: Being Single In These Times Is Rough - Toke Makinwa by hahn(m): 3:07pm On May 13, 2016
I'd love to see her walk down in the street under this sun grin
Politics › Re: Okupe: "Obasanjo Forgave Me And I Kissed Him" by hahn(m): 3:03pm On May 13, 2016
Kissed him and sucked his dick abi? undecided
Islam › Re: Mispronunciation Of Muslim Names by hahn(m): 3:01pm On May 13, 2016
eitsei:
what I mean is that I can't remember the exact verses in the Quran.. All what I said are from the Quran and the sayings of the prophet... Don't worry I will get back to you later on it later
Waiting smiley
Politics › Re: Ambode Meets The CEO Of Yamaha Motors In Lagos (photos) by hahn(m): 2:50pm On May 13, 2016
ichommy:
The CEO Bow.
Olodo. He is Chinese tongue

You still dey this country so?

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