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BabyApple:. no i am an evidence of natural selection Do you think you came into existence by chance ? Can science explain where you where before you were born and where you will be going after you leave this earthno, we do not yet understand where we came from. but this is not an evidence for god. yet you keep using what philosophy calls god of the gaps theory. and can science explain how soul gets into your body and where will the soul go after you die and i will give you evidence from the Quran that was revealed thousands years ago even before scientist could think of it.when you say soul do you mean consciousness? if that is it then we do not know how matter evolved with consciousness. but definitely it does not need god for any explanation Evolution is a scientific fact |
BabyApple:can you give me any evidence for god creating any living thing or the universe? scientist have taken decades to study living thing and you came here to talk about creationism |
babyapple do you think believing in allah is more sensible than atheism ? |
BabyApple:you believe this in the 21st century ? |
well like lawrence krauss said " forget jesus, the stars dies so you can be here " alexander developed penicillin which is used to fight bacteriological diseases. But most people who worship jesus do not trust jesus to heal their diseases, so they needed science out syphilis used to be a curse from god before until fleming came and god stopped cursing us ![]() |
why should they preach against one's sexuality ? I do not know how someone will read an ancient book written by people who did not know that the earth orbited the sun. is your god so jobless that as big as the universe is he chose to associate with humans amongst all other living things, and he is more concerned with what you do when you are naked ![]() |
BabyApple:do you actually believe mohammed splitted the moon , he rode a winged horse to heaven. |
There are alot of reasons associated with people going to church. But i believe most people attend church services for basically 3 reasons firstly, some go to church to speak to their god. This set of people believe that their god listens and answers prayers. secondly, people who attend church services due to external factors. This set of people go to church probably because their family members force them to church or they do not want their neighbours to think they're immoral, because there is this stereotype about non-believers "once you find someone who does not attend church they start judging. and finally people attend church like any other social gathering, prolly to look for a relationship partner, business partner, need counselling from the pastoral department or just to go and show off their latest properties. |
1)I should keep my atheism to myself but you cannot keep your church to yourself on sunday or friday in the middle of the night to yourself 2) I should keep my atheism to myself because your fellow believer would keep making noise in public transport 3) I should keep my atheism to myself because every 5 am muslims keep making noise 4) i should keep my atheism to myself if not i will burn in hell fire. |
Bossjakande:common you do not need to threaten him about burning in hell fire. the first question i might ask is how do you know about this hell fire ? any evidence for it ? |
ABCthings:no i am not denying the creator. there is more evidence for the creation of the universe without a creator. the universe has the characteristics of a universe without a creator. evolution is as real as the heat from the sun |
obie3rixe:you do not understand evolution.. i cannot spend my time explaining just get journals. its mostly scientifically illiterate people who do not understand evolution ABCthings:at least the evidence points to a singularity, but no single evidence for your intelligent designer |
hopeforcharles:still waiting for you |
NotBeenPaid:and people who do not understand evolution will think we were created specially by an intelligent designer |
grandstar:natural selection you mean ? |
OpenYourEyes1:yes for now its still a mystery to us. but i do not think god is necessary for the creation of life |
titigenius:well let me give you one example 1) plantiris muscle which is useless in our body. but it was useful for our ancestors who lived on trees millions of years ago 2)laryngeal nerve. and many more... maybe i will create another thread on evidence of evolution |
I know evolution happened. Evolution is a scientific theory. Same way gravity is titigenius: |
Yes we found monomers but we do not still understand how the monomers turn into protein yet. Monomers are the building blocks of life OpenYourEyes1: |
OpenYourEyes1:well Einstein's theory of general relativity is much more accepted in the scientific community. Newton gave the formula ( gravitational attraction) that all objects in the universe attracts each other. Einstein explained how gravity works |
OpenYourEyes1:https://www.britannica.com/science/Miller-Urey-experiment |
titigenius:yes but not modern chimpanzees, bonobos or human. |
you are mistaking evolution for abiogenesis. but muller and urey performed an experiment that showed life can arise from non-living matter OpenYourEyes1: |
titigenius:evolution does not work that way. We did not come from monkeys. Rather about 3 million years ago we had a common ancestor with chimpanzees and bonobos |
EmperorHarry:yes I would still support but for now there’s no evidence for any.. nature does the job better |
EmperorHarry:well, evolution said there was no need for any intelligent design |
Good day guys. As the topic says “science refutes God”. This is a debate between hopeforcharles and I https://www.nairaland.com/5166360/im-confused#78073126. Anyone is free to join as far as you do not derail the thread. As the speaker speaking for the motion. I start by saying I have the advantage of winning this debate because I have evidence reason, logic empirical method and rationality on my side, where as hopeforcharles has nothing but vague hopes, fears, and not to forget “FAITH”. I think I should first clarify the nature of the motion. The motion says “science REFUTES god” not “DISPROVE”. This is very important because you can’t disprove something which has not been proven. As Carl Sagan says “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”. And today I am here to tell you with over 500 years of science, god (whatever you define it as) is not relevant to this universe. It is actually irrational to believe in god. Now to refute god is to refute several assertions made by theists. Here is just some of the major assertions 1. That god Is necessary for the creation of the universe and complex life 2. There is evidence for god 3. Believing in god is rational. But with the progress of science, it has shown us that there is no need for any intelligent designer for what so ever. A lot of creation myths have been created throughout our history and science has come out to tell us they are false. I am sure my opponent is surely going to come up with this point that the universe is fine tuned for life, so it must require an intelligent designer. That is blatantly false! This was the same type of reasoning people thought that made us think we were created specially from other animals before Charles Darwin came up with Evolution (the theory of natural selection). But what Darwin showed us was that there was just genetic variation among the population combined with NATURAL selection means that you do not need any intelligent designer. That all the living thing on earth came from the same ancestors (theory of modification by descent) by natural law. Darwin never knew anything about DNA but he knew it was plausible. Now with the invention of DNA more evidence for evolution has come to light and the only people who do not believe in evolution are scientifically illiterate people. Evolution is a scientific theory same way Gravity is. Now Darwin has removed the need for god the next evidence was the creation of the universe. Back to the argument that the universe was finetuned for life. I am sure hopeforcharles would say that if there is a little change is any of the given laws of nature that we would not be here today. I am here to tell you that it is an illusion. What we are seeing here is an example of cosmic natural selection. The universe was not created for us but rather we evolved to adapt to this universe. Most of the universes are not even conducive for life. There is a plausible explanation for how a universe could come from nothing. Hopeforcharles could also argue that the multiverse scientist talk about was created so as to do away with god because scientist don’t like god, because it’s the same characteristic that god is supposed to have. To be honest I do not like the idea of the multiverse but our calculation and observation has shown us more outside our universe. There are still a lot of unanswered questions but god is not required in the answer And now` to conclude science has taught me that 1. We do not need god to create the universe 2. We do not need to believe in god 3. It is irrational. So clearly you should become and atheist. |
hopeforcharles:well this is just a sign you do not understand evolution. i cannot waste my time trying to explain it to you. we can create a thread to argue this out |
hopeforcharles:but with the evidence evolution has shown you " that there is no need for any intelligent designer" you still say there is god you are the type of fool other fools are jealous of |
hopeforcharles:a bigger fool says in his heart there is a god, when there is no evidence to back up the claim |
modelling a rectangular water tank with hydrostatic pressure staad pro CE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysZ3jludMZs |
hahn:He was busy preparing hell for people who did not believe in him |
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