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Ranchhoddas:
Are there consequences to this? Is there a hidden price that the user would have to pay?

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TOSIN116:
Don't know,but is it possible that the big bang occurred?

well there’s enough evidence that the Big Bang occurred. But no single evidence for any creator .

TOSIN116:
Again how does this affect what what I saying? I was saying it impossible for our world to be sustained by mere chance.

did science say our universe came by mere chance? Can you show me any peered review paper ?

EmperorHarry:
I'm gonna use an device that's relatable to answer this question.This reply is in no way an attestation of my hypothesis.
If we consider the iPhone from the first to the current iPhone you'd realise that as technology advances,the phones evolve with upgrades on functions,capacity and appearance.The similarities between phones within a particular range is easily recognizable but there's a huge gap between the first and the current iPhone in terms of appearance,capacity and functions.Let's say the human race is no longer on earth and some alien life with the idea of evolution(largely similar to ours) arrive and settle on earth as their new home. They begin to study these devices.They find the iPhone 1 and the iPhone 7.The similarities are vague but it's somewhat evident they're related.The iPhone 3 is then discovered and so on.They start creating evolution theories just like we've done.The iPhone 0(hypothetical) would be most similar to one of the more recent models but not too different from the first models.The first models are only foundations for achieving a more perfect model.

you’re indirectly saying complexity requires a designer. First and foremost that’s a false analogy fallacy. Secondly your logic ignores natural selection: your argument ignores the fact that evolution by natural selection has been proven to give rise to complex designs. We know for a fact that nature has given rise to complex design (you and I are good examples). The reason you recognise how an iPhone is designed was because we already know it was designed. We’ve evidence for millions of iPhone created by a designer and no evidence for an iPhone without a designer. Same way we’ve million’s of life created without a designer and we’ve no evidence for life created with a designer.

The iPhone creator acts as if he created the watch from nothing Ex-Nihilo. The iPhone like any other material is just a rearrangement of matter and atoms which already existed.

The all intelligent designer I'm proposing isn't all knowing if you read my post.It's also not one being and isn't the omnipresent, omniscient,omnipotent and benevolent being you're familiar with.The ID has flaws and limits.The viruses and bacteria could just be flaws that could be created by a different source or a glitch.

Then you should not use the term intelligent in that case. If ID has its flaws then This shows the intelligent designer isn’t really intelligent after all.

Consciousness to me is a gift and a curse(temporarily).The fact that the universe would exist with or without human conscious is interesting.There are innate qualities that are evident in all of nature that separates the conciousness from the physical being.The mind is largely dependent on the body. An ID doesn't have to be the conventional view of god you are familiar with.I also never stated it's a proof,quite frankly it could just be garbage but I feel it would help shape my understanding on certain things.Isn't that what hypotheses are all about?
Now this is one of the saddest things modern day humans including me do.We tend to look at how much we've achieved and condescendingly judge or dismiss much older beliefs cos we feel they were largely limited in knowledge about nature and other phenomenons which is true to an extent but we fail to realise we have no real evidence of what happened or reason why they did what they did.We can only make assumptions which may or may not be true. They were quite advanced than one would assume them to be.They laid the foundation for who we are and what we're achieving today so it would bad judgement to just discard an account about something that has not been proved or disproved currently cos they might just be right.

okay. I was only trying to prove your hypothesis wrong then

Some people claimed he broke the 1st law of thermodynamics since energy can never be created nor destroyed. And god actually created the universe from nothing.

I do not know how true that is because there’s no evidence for that claim.

Okay that’s really great. But what I was trying to say is that your hypothesis might not be correct because of the evidences we’ve now. But I will be ready to listen to your evidence and hopes it changes my mind

EmperorHarry:
Lol..I'll provide answers later today but just so you know it's just an analogy.

TOSIN116:
The second law of thermodynamics states that the total entropy of an isolated system can never decrease over time. The total entropy of a system and its surroundings can remain constant in ideal cases where the system is in thermodynamic equilibrium, or is undergoing a (fictive) reversible process. In all processes that occur, including spontaneous processes, the total entropy of the system and its surroundings increases and the process is irreversible in the thermodynamic sense. The increase in entropy accounts for the irreversibility of natural processes, and the asymmetry between future and past.

 -Wikipedia 

The problem is that you creationists don’t understand science and y’all claim you do. You guys like quoting out of context which is indirectly a straw man fallacy.

For one thing, the Second Law of Thermodynamics says that the total entropy in the universe has to increase. It still allows for local decreases in entropy as long as those decreases are balanced out by an increase in entropy somewhere else. So your freezer can lower the entropy in water by turning it into ice, as long as it increases the total entropy by emitting heat.

In fact, that's usually how it works. Typically, as entropy increases, disorder increases, reaches a peak, and then decreases again.

This is how our universe works too. At the start, the universe had no entropy and was very simple. In the middle, where we live, it's highly complex and has medium entropy. At the end of the universe it will be simple again, but will have extremely high entropy.

There is a huge difference between entropy and complexity.

And no spider man was created by Stan Lee
This discussion does not involve fictional characters so why derailing?
Anyway it slowly becoming another Atheist bashing thread

Spider man is a fictitious character same way what ever god you believe in is.

mekaboy:
Your looking for likes to glorify your frustration. Jumping out to attack people's believe will still not bring you peace. Life is confusing enough, how much more when you don't know or have something greater than you to believe in.

The truth is I’m not attacking your beliefs. The constitution said everyone has a right to believe what ever they want to believe in and I respect that, but, I also think I have the right to ridicule or mock any belief

The sooner you submit yourself to the leadership of the author of your life, the better for u.

To be honest I do not think I’m interested in submitting myself to any cosmic saddam hussein whose concern is who I sleep with and what style. Or who would burn me in hell fire for not believing in him

Nobody will force you to believe in God, but just like every other thing in life is controlled by time, someday your time will be up and you will be rewarded for your actions within time.

the sooner you face the truth that no one is up in the sky trying to help you the better for you.

I just remembered what the bible said about the mark of the beast. How those who will not receive the mark will not be able to buy or sell.

I remembered in the bible when Jesus told his disciples that non of them would taste before his second coming.

So looking at what is going on today, imagine when everything goes digital and the entire world goes cashless. When the Atm machines will be programmed to read data off your forehead or hand. There will be no more cards. Then America will cut off nations that fail to comply.

Are you saying you do not like technology advancement? If you still want to live like a cave man you’re free to live like that. Are they forcing you to use their products? Just imagine atm with finger print as security or eye scanner. Won’t your money be more secured ? Except if the thief is really heartless then he can slice your fingers to steal your money

No more Facebook, watsapp, instagram or even internet for those who fail to switch to the digital data engraved on the skin.

But imagine if there was a law like that. Don’t you think it would be better? Because it will reduce the amount of stupid things we see on the internet

Well your hypothesis is quiet funny and it has been refuted since the mid 19th century by Darwin and Wallace.

1) are you saying if Man was created in the image of god then chimps and other apes are created in the image of god because we are closely related. I read one funny quote saying if we were created in the image of god why aren’t we invisible? .

2) so what was the reason why the all intelligent designer created dangerous organisms like viruses and bacteria?

3) so because we do not know how consciousness evolved so it’s god just be intellectually honest for once and say you do not know.

Stop citing books written by “bronze age peasants who didn’t know the earth orbits the sun” - krauss.

TOSIN116:
My Thoughts On Religion I;
Atheists believe and the way forward.



Over the years there have been several debates on the existence of God.Things look obscure as our brain tends to reason towards the negative path,This confuse and misleads us and affects good judgement.In order to make things more clear to us I have decided to use a mathematical approach, which I believe is easy and straightforward enough.


Now let math things down using probability

Prob. that God exists = 7.5/10 (assumed)

Prob. that he does not = (2.5/10)!

Now lets look at things more closely

Prob. that the Bang occurred = 0

For how can something come out of nothing? it's not only illogical but impossible, it surely will be absurd if such a event happen.

So also can we say it is impossible for the universe to be without a supreme being, as it impractical to have a creation without a creator.Personally I've never seen an iphone just assemble by chances,mere collusions or accidents(if you doubt me you might want to take some crashcourse on entropy or checkout the second law of thermodynamics)


Way Forward

So instead of wasting time proving the existence of God more time should be spent seeking him,even if we feel he has offended us.From findings, the probability of God being the Christian God is considerably larger than others.if we can trust in him depends in the testimonies of true believers and on our experience as we dilligently seek him in our daily lives.


Prob. of God being the Christian God = 7/10

Prob. of God being from other Religion = 3/10

From this we can derive other conclusions such as the prob. that Hell exists since such minor christian groups don't believe in Hell, let their popul. be = 2/10
So Prob. that Hell exists becomes 7/10 - 2/10 = 5/10 = 1/2 (again assumed)

From here we can make careful decisions, if the risk is worth taking or not.

Your own
TOSIN116
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My Concept Of Salvation...

What do you know about the second law of thermodynamics. Because you’ll just shoot your self on your foot .

Have you thought of speaking or seeking help from Spider-Man also ?

UceeGod:
Oh how I wish you really want answers to your questions. But I'm sure you only want to argue on what you have negative understanding about.

The Liberty I enjoy from being freed from the bondage of Sin and being slave to the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus is beyond the understanding of the natural man. Only with experience can you understand.

which bondage of sin ?

And you’re also a slave

FreelanceRebel:
I stop taking atheist seriously when i discovered the owner of this forum is using juju to drive traffic to his website yet claiming atheism.

are you joking or serious? Is there any evidence to back this your claim up ?

Was there no mirror when the make up person was working on your face

What type of God is God? For example, is God Alien like Ancient Aliens theorists believe? Also does God want to be worrisped like Christian or islam God?

well I think god is just a failed hypothesis created by ancient who could not comprehend a lot of things so they had to invoke god (gods of the gaps).

Did God completely created us or just partially modified us? Is God experimenting with us for fun or is he serious?

first there’s is no evidence for any intelligent designer which is a term coined to represent god. Secondly we do not know the first life form but the Abiogenesis hypothesis is working on it and it has shown evidence of how life can arise from non living matter.

Do you believe in the afterlife? If so which type of an afterlife? Do you think the type will be decided by God or our deeds or random or our choice?

I do not believe in the afterlife cause there is not enough evidence for it.

Is it possible to spiritually or physically connect with God in this life? If so how? By praying or other way/s?

is there a way I can communicate with power rangers or Santa Claus

Do you believe in miracles?

no I do not.

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micxwell:
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micxwell:
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We’ve been saying Nigeria will be great since 1960 whats happening now

micxwell:
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KingEbukasBlog:
You are contradicting yourself. There is no afterlife like you previously claimed or that you don't know for sure

I do not know if there is an afterlife or not. But it’s plausible that there is might not be an afterlife because there is no evidence

micxwell:
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Can I see a picture of what you’re talking about?

First of all soul is a religious construct. There is no scientific evidence for it. The answer is we do not know what happens when we die. If you notice the afterlife myth was created so that those who lost their loved ones can reunite
My question is why should there be life after death if there was no life before birth ?

KingEbukasBlog:
Immortality of the soul is arguable. The argument, if the soul continues its existence after death or no, has its foundation in theism. A deist could believe the soul is not immortal and perishes with the body after death. Epicureans who were ancient materialists believed the soul which is made up of fine bundles of atoms ends its existence with the body at physical death.

Neoplatonists who are theists believe the soul reincarnates but loses the memories of its previous life. St Aquinas believed that we have a spiritual desire to pursue supreme goodness but this isn't available to us since imperfect Nature cant provide this, supreme goodness can be found in God when we unite with him - this makes the afterlife a necessity.

If you have any good argument or evidence to support your ***belief*** that nothing exists after this life (no afterlife exists) then you can provide it let's scrutinise it

KingEbukasBlog:
True. They understand the implications of denying God's existence and they are afraid of that reality. To deal with the fear and soothe themselves and express their intellectual superiority , they take positions to fill the gap left by their lack of belief that are self-refuting and irrational. Brilliant move!

no the truth is that you guys don’t want to accept the fact that there is nothing after this life. You just want to stick to your god as a coping mechanism.

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TruthinAction:
There are overwhelming evidences in the Scripture. Take time and read the Bible, you will see them there.

If biblical prophecies on the emergence of successive kingdom from the time of Babylonia Empire has come to pass as predicted in Daniel, Chapter 2, then be sure that all other prophecies of the last kingdom of the world and the final judgment will all come to pass.

Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which MUST SHORTLY COME TO PASS; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

Jesus is coming back. If the devil couldn't stop him from rising from the dead, he certainly cannot stop him from coming back. And the resurrection of Jesus is a proven fact. No one has been able to disprove it. His tomb is empty.[/s]

so those who died and Jesus rose back up did not tell us about the after life.

The truth is that me and you have been on earth, we have the same brain power, and you tell me there is life after death because you read a book written by people who did not know the earth orbited the sun and you want me to believe that ancient book common!

If I tell you that I can mysteriously turn stone to pizza. I am definitely sure you won’t believe me. Then you ask me to give you evidence and I reply go and check my diary will you take me seriously?

Congrats!

TruthinAction:
Even if he did, you will not believe. Unbelief is a terrible state of mind.

you were asked a simple question can you give us evidence for your afterlife?

TruthinAction:
There are several testimonies of those who had died, went to hell and given a second chance. Their stories confirmed the hell story. You can Google them and read the stories yourself.

these are empty claims. Even mr Lazarus in the bible died for 4 days but he did not even tell us about hell or heaven