₦airaland Forum

@tonybarcanista. I am still wondering how a youth can be so shameless. You are as unstable as a chameleon. So disgusting a character. When I saw your thread condemning PDP to death, I forced myself not to respond cos I know once u are pained, you betray. When paid, you start singing people's praise like a hungry parrot and u have d audacity to talk ill of corruption. You are a shameless guy. You are a burden to any party you belong to. I don't envy PDP for having the likes of you and Sherriff in their fold. You are at best an undertaker but I can assure you that people with unstable character as yours never go far....

so they want to borrow with FOUR TO SEVEN YEARS MORATORIUM meaning Buhari wont have to pay back the money during his regime. He is not only trying to destroy the present economy, he is making sure in case we elect a responsible govt next time, he would have destroyed the future economy irredeemably too. If buhari is not a spy of CIA sent to fulfil their 2015 prophecy that Nigeria would break up, tell me who he is?

OrlandoOwoh:
Senseless Governor. If true federalism is realized and the FG decides that states fend for themselves, what would Ekiti State fall back on?

but when APC was canvassing for true federalism they didn't know it was a foolish idea abi? You just confirmed with your mouth APC leaders were either senseless too or were just liars

mikolo80:
I know enough not to try to feed locusts and keep up with the Joneses
Guess you know more about borrowpose trying to impress ppl you don't know with money you don't have

small boy you have been noticed. i am preparing to enter theater for a major surgery now. can you please allow me to focus?

mikolo80:
it's like you didn't read that he did not invite all of them. Which of your friends or family would you cut from the list assuming you had no good job and have met your missing bone.you will wait till you have billions ba. No my friend it's you that blames buhari for self inflicted problems

just waka pass. you know nothing about life.

mikolo80:
so without him the 700 ppl did not have what to eat that night. The kind Hunger wey de worry you na wa o. So na food you and d 700 go chop not to celebrate with the bride and groom. Who needs enemies with friends like you

I can't even remember this post. But let me ask you, without those 700people won't his wedding hold? So, when they told Jesus in D bibles wine was finished, why didn't he tell them the guest didn't need the wine. What kind of celebration is that? Some people would come from afar and they may not see food to buy so they should go hungry because they want to celebrate with the couple. Your likes will create problems for yourself and turn back to blame Buhari for a failed wedding. Once again, cut your coat according to your cloth

Buhari is not comfortable with the rising profile of jonathan so he is bent on tarnishing his image. Lai Mohammed said the allegations liking Jonathan to Niger delta bombings has refused to go away same way allegations buhari sponsored boko haram refused to go away, same way allegations buhari has no certificate therefore commited perjury which is criminal refused to go away... Hope lai Mohammed will remember to tell the security apparatus to probe buhari too. These tyrants so obviously intolerant of opposition

mufutau55:
Welcome back, my good friend.
And you are in a good thread for a beautiful architectural work. Fippycbk is real good.

Hajji M.

thanks chief. i am already feeling at home

mufutau55:
Doctor Helpee... how can you just abandon us like that? Long time though...

Hajji M.

hahahaha!!! my chairman and elder statesman. i always remain loyal sir. i am getting back to site now so i am back fully sir

This is my survey and a pix of the site. I want to build a standard medical laboratory with a 3 bedroom duplex and four flats together. Is it feasible based on this land size. How much are u doing the design for me ?

brodalikeme:
May God give you understanding in Jesus name-amen

The same understanding he gave you that you cant explain here. keep living in self denial and can you be honest to your God by telling us honestly what percentage of your prayers have been answered since your sojourn on earth?

brodalikeme:
God definitely hears and answers prayer but He won't answer us based on a pre-conditioned mindset, It is not I need a car, he gives you a car, I need chicken in my soup, chicken jumps into your soup.
God answers our prayer with the entirety of our life in view. He will not give us a gift today that will distroy our tomorrow. Let me explain this a bit, our parents did not give us everything we asked for, not because they couldn't afford it or because they were wicked. They understood timing and relevance.
Finally answers to prayers is not just based on what we can touch alone, but also things that you can't touch or even see. On what money can provide and what money cannot provide.
When we pray to God, we should keep an open mind because God ways are different from ours and He sees things we do not see.
God bless you

you are still saying the same thing. so, if i pray to God that i need a car, he may not answer it but if i work real hard, that car becomes less of a miracle because i don't even need to pray to get it again. you are right about parent but your parent will still give you 80percent of what you ask for unless they cant afford it at least once you attain a certain age. But in prayers, we dont understand the ways of God so he wont answer most of our prayers so why PRAY. it is a gamble because you dont even know whether what you are asking for is not what God is prepared to give you at that time so it is better not ppray. Just let things happen naturally and you wont be different from the so called prayer warriors or even be better. The time spent praying can be used to work hard and you wont need to beg for your daily bread in prayers

hungryboy:
The odds that your prayers will be answered by God, is the same with the odds of you winning the lottery,
God and Baba Ijebu dey do remix

lol. based on evidences i agree with the odds but the remix aspect----my hands no dey o

i want to discuss this concept of prayer with an open mind this Sunday morning. There are certain verses in the bible that makes it look certain GOD will always answer our prayers but reality shows otherwise. If you think deeply about all your prayer request in your entire life, you will realise probably less than 10 percent have been answered so far. The funny part is that out of fear, you will most likely deny this reality so you wont be indirectly saying that GOD is a failure. Dont worry, the pastors have created an alibi for you....YOU DONT HAVE FAITH such that when GOD answers your prayer, it is all glory to God and when he doesn't answer your prayers, you are at fault due to lack of faith or Gods time is the best or he knows the best for you. While i agree that Gods time is the best and only he knows that time, why ask us to pray anyway knowing fully well if it is not time he wont answer. The meaning is that no matter your faith, once it is not yet time, God wont answer your prayers. Why ask us to pray then? why not just do things for us when it is time rather than ask us to put faith in something that has failed everybody more than 90 percent of the time? Is he not indirectly weakeaning your faith with such unanswered prayers. Meanwhile, Jesus never gave a condition of faith for answered prayers. in the book of john 16;24, he said UNTIL NOW YOU HAVE ASKED NOTHING IN MY NAME, ASK AND YOU WILL RECEIVE THAT YOUR JOY MAY BE FULL. Two conditions here... 1)ask 2) in my name....no faith prerequisite. why do we have so many poor people in Nigeria? unanswered prayers. There is no single poor people that don't ray for success. why is nigeria so backward with all our prayers in jesus name which is the only criteria for answered prayers yet prayerless countries with gays and other vices are denying us visas because they are more prosperous than us. Dont tell me we don't know how to pray...because even you that knows how to pray probably have less than 20 percent success in your prayers. in my encounter with people, i discovered the same fate befell people wether they pray or not. Infact most people that rely mostly on prayer get disappointed more than people that dont pray. My own conclusion is this,,,PRAYER IS LIKE A LOTTERY. It doesnt depend on you. you cant control it. you cant measure its success rate. you cant challenge because of fear of religious people that will tell you you are blaspheming. If God cant give us a criteria for answering prayers that will always work then prayer is like a lottery. If you know the criteria that makes prayer foolproof, why noot pray it for nigeria to be better? What you will be you will be prayers or not. If you like, lock yourself for fourty nights and pray till death, the chances that God will answer your prayer based on EVIDENCE is less than 20 percent . You may have a contrary opinion based on proofs though

midolian:
I know kids like you will rush to comment on threads like this even when you have not the slightest idea what it takes to impeach the president. You think what it takes ends with the jokers you call Senators?...Now read and be informed!

143. (1) The President or Vice-President may be removed from office in accordance with the provisions of this section.

(2) Whenever a notice of any allegation in writing signed by not less than one-third of the members of the National Assembly:-

(a) is presented to the President of the Senate;

(b) stating that the holder of the office of President or Vice-President is guilty of gross misconduct in the performance of the functions of his office, detailed particulars of which shall be specified,

the President of the Senate shall within seven days of the receipt of the notice cause a copy thereof to be served on the holder of the office and on each member of the National Assembly, and shall also cause any statement made in reply to the allegation by the holder of the office to be served on each member of the National Assembly.

(3) Within fourteen days of the presentation of the notice to the President of the Senate (whether or not any statement was made by the holder of the office in reply to the allegation contained in the notice) each House of the National Assembly shall resolve by motion without any debate whether or not the allegation shall be investigated.

(4) A motion of the National Assembly that the allegation be investigated shall not be declared as having been passed, unless it is supported by the votes of not less than two-thirds majority of all the members of each House of the National Assembly.

(5) Within seven days of the passing of a motion under the foregoing provisions, the Chief Justice of Nigeria shall at the request of the President of the Senate appoint a Panel of seven persons who in his opinion are of unquestionable integrity, not being members of any public service, legislative house or political party, to investigate the allegation as provide in this section.

(6) The holder of an office whose conduct is being investigated under this section shall have the right to defend himself in person and be represented before the Panel by legal practitioners of his own choice.

(7) A Panel appointed under this section shall -

(a) have such powers and exercise its functions in accordance with such procedure as may be prescribed by the National Assembly; and

(b) within three months of its appointment report its findings to each House of the National Assembly.

(8.. Where the Panel reports to each House of the National Assembly that the allegation has not been proved, no further proceedings shall be taken in respect of the matter.

(9) Where the report of the Panel is that the allegation against the holder of the office has been proved, then within fourteen days of the receipt of the report at the House the National Assembly shall consider the report, and if by a resolution of each House of the National Assembly supported by not less than two-thirds majority of all its members, the report of the Panel is adopted, then the holder of the office shall stand removed from office as from the date of the adoption of the report.

(10) No proceedings or determination of the Panel or of the National Assembly or any matter relating thereto shall be entertained or questioned in any court.

(11) In this section -

"gross misconduct" means a grave violation or breach of the provisions of this Constitution or a misconduct of such nature as amounts in the opinion of the National Assembly to gross misconduct.

http://www.nigeria-law.org/ConstitutionOfTheFederalRepublicOfNigeria.htm#FederalExecutive

Its not cheese afterall. The numbers and all. It will be easier to satisfy oliver twist than impeach Buhari.

I am sure even your SP and his corrupt goons don't know what it really takes. You are on every thread insulting the president. I think you have "over-done" this and its hightime you stopped. My brotherly advice for u.

check it well. it is easier than you think. The law didnt tell us how the senators should vote so it can be done using a voice vote and the senate president will determine whether the motion/resolution was supported by 2/3 of the senators. Of course the president will go to court but he would have been embarrassed

Akissani:
after spending @least six yrs in medical school all u do is to come to nairaland and support criminals like fayose... A medical doctor supporting criminals....chai patients done suffer

After spending all the years you spent in technical school, you still support an illiterate that cant even produce his o level. Chai your client don suffer

FOLYKAZE:
You are the foolish person here. Instead of bleating like a goat on public forum, you can simply google the owe aspiration and payment of form processes.

Buhari did not apply for any loan at that period for collecting presidential form. Buhari paid for the APC presidential form with Bank Overdraft.

Falana was rebuffed by Buhari campaign team. Read their statement:



A bank overdraft is designed for customers who have bad credit record. It is a credit facility but not necessary a loan which grant a bank customer to withdraw more than what the customer have with the bank. An overdraft occur when money is withdrawn from a bank account and the available balance goes below zero. The negative balance is draft which will be covered when money is deposited into the said account.

There was no loan parsay. Buhari had enough as people were already donating for him. I can proudly mention here that I am one of those who donated token for his campaign. Buhari was asked to pick up the form right inside Oyegun office when he went there for declaration. It was his manager who granted him overdraft. Overdraft unlike loan does not attract collateral and subsequent payment into that account will pay off the negative balance.

FROM FIRST BANK WEBSITE, THIS IS THE REQUIREMENT FOR OVERDRAFT LIKE EVERY OTHER BANK IN NIGERIA-----This product is designed to provide a structured and controllable mechanism through which FirstBank may provide overdraft to retail organisations with annual turnover of N500 million and below in all segments of the economy to finance working capital requirements of the business.

Features
Maximum amount is N20 million
Maximum tenor of 12 months
Collateral – Legal Mortgage over property in FirstBank acceptable Locations or Treasury Bills/Fixed Term Deposit
Benefits
Accompanying Documents
Next Step
Frequently Asked Questions.

when you finish educating yourself you can come come back to join the forum but for now, we are not inviting small small boys that only patronise microfinance banks or LAPO

FOLYKAZE:
Some people are just daft. You want APC to publish her account details? To convince you? What does this minions take theirselves for?

No political party in the world has ever published their account statement. Fayose hadnt done anything close to that. I dont know why you expect APC which new in Nigeria political sphere to do such. Everyone cannot be daft like you are.

It is a duty of a political aspirant to declare interest for a post and buy form which officially affirm his interest. It is also the party duty to fund the campaign of their candidate.

APC is a national institution and has to capacity to pump billions into the campaign of her candidate. This fund amounting to billions come from due payment, donation, sponsorship from members, fans and families. Buhari with CPC campaigned with vechicles donated to him by friends and close associate. APC has bigwigs and businessmen as members who could pump billions into Buhari campaign. It does not necessary mean Buhari should pay or take loan for his campaign. That is the job of a political party.

Each party chapter contribute lot to national politics.

Donations sprang in from different angle. Some pay in a thousand, some in multiple thousand, some in ten and hundred thousands. Some in millions, ten and hundred million. APC faithful members are up to a million. Even if they donated 1000 naira each, that is a bilion naira. Add up money from non partisan fans. There was a report of a woman who paid millions from her saving. There was a report of a little girl who gave out more than six thousand naira. Adding these donations together is closing up to 10bn.

Buhari did not take any loan. He only paid for his form with bank overdraft. Bank overdraft is not the samething as loan as it does not involve collateral just like the using of credit card.

The entitlements, dues, pension fund he receive before been sworn in is enough to balance his negative balanced account. He only need to sit back and watch the Party doing the remaining job for him.

i dont need to respond to your incoherent rant but just so you may be educated. Bank overdraft is a loan usually backed with collateral in Nigeria. i am not a banker but ive taken overdraft a number of times and i used my C of O as collateral. No bank in Nigeria will give you overdraft without collateral except salary advance and your pay back cant be moore than 33% of your monthly pay usually small amount. Most of you just sit down behind keyboard typing rubbish when you are supposed to be looking for your daily bread because no serious business man or top executive will come here saying overdraft is not a loan. what is it then?. Saying overdraft is not a loan means i don't even need to argue with you because it is obvious you know nothing about what you are saying. All the banks in Nigeria have website. kindly paste the link to any bank that gives overdraft without collateral in Nigeria let us see.

louqas:
Now you are throwing insults has it explained your ignorance? You don't have monopoly of insults you hear , I initially tot you are reasonable but I see I'm wrong . No need prolonging this ,abeg stay off my mention

for emphazy...buharatai bought those ppty when his salary was around 700k per month yet he had properties worth his hundrend years salary and by law, he cant be engaged in any thing other than military. yet he acquired them legitimately. buhari actually surrounded himself with geniuses. if this cant help your ignorance nothing else will. you have no mention on nairaland. it is a public space. if you say rubbish, it is my civic duty to correct it else you infect our unborn generations with lies

louqas:
Read my first reply to you , a candidate is only required to buy nomination form while the party is expected to sponsor the candidate for the elections . Ever wonder why the cost of form is 27million for presidency? it's expected that the party has it's own money generating mechanisms I.e. dues ,levies, fund raising and even INEC gives political parties money . Fayose and zenith never mentioned any loan agreement between them so it wasn't a loan but since we don't know what is between the two keys not speculate.
Buratai declared the houses in his CCB forms so that means he had them before becoming chief of army it's left to EFCC to ask him the sources , no law is against acquiring wealth legitimately , not by using arms money to acquire properties.
Like a comment said GEJ has given you the freedom of information act use it to compel APC to release the details of their campaign funds, dasukigate has revealed how pdp election was funded.

APC has money generating mechanisms but PDP only had dasuki abi? The Apc members are such a genius they had money making skills while PDP members were dummies. I think i am either arguing with a small child or a pauper else what relationship will exist between zenith bank and fayose other than business/loan agreement. Banks dont do charity with their money. They do business with profit in sight. Buratai declared what in his CCB form? you are something else. so now that it is burratai, he could acquire money legitimately doing nothing other than army but every other person cant acquire money legally as long as they are PDP. buharatai is such a genius he could convert his salary to billions while PDP members are dummies. They can never do it except by dasuki. i dont think there is hope for this generation of nigerian youths if the future of this country lies with them. Pls note, buharatai bought those ppty when his salary was around 700k per month yet he had properties worth his hundrend years salary and by law, he cant be engaged in any thing other than military. yet he acquired them legitimately. buhari actually surrounded himself with genius

louqas:
If you can go back to news sources during the electioneering you will find your answers. have you forgitten Lots of ordinary folks gave their little contributions together to aid pmb campaign ,have you forgotten about the old food seller that have her life savings? Have you forgotten the various donations from party members and well meaning individuals both home and abroad? Besides a candidate only has to purchase the nomination form the party sponsors him or her for the election.
This fayose issue is different because by his own admission the bank approached him and pledged to make some funds available for his election and asked him to nominate a person who will receive the money . While pmb approached the bank for a loan and provided collateral (how can you be asking someone here to tell you which collateral approach the bank of you want to know ) and he was granted a loan which is a public record . Is it not now that the bubble has burst that we know of zenith banks sponsoring of fayose.

ok. so why is it so difficult for posterity sake for APC and PMB to publish details of the account showing how the thousands donated by well meaning nigerians amounted to billions used in funding his campaign. How they changed all those kobos into dollars that was used to muscle out atiku during lagos primary. so, who told you zenith bank provided the funding for free without collateral? if i say my bank is funding my business, it simply means loan and nothing more. MY QUESTION...where were those well meaning Nigerians and party members that provided billions for the election when buhari needed common 27million for form. As far back as medical school, friends contributed money to buy me form when i contested as the president of the union.? you are yet to tell me what collateral buhari used? fayose contested against a sitting governor yet zenith had confidence to sponsor him knowing fully well he may lose, do you think they are so daft they wont protect their investment? if i ask you when will EFCC arrest buratai for having houses worth billions in dubai you will tell me it his savings but if i tell you same thing about fayose he must be a thief. look, we are all nigerians. we blindly supporting this govt selective prosecution of political opponents and very soon, it will boomerang. Abacha became abacha only after silencing opposition. IF fayose funded his election via bank and buhari did the same, persecuting fayose only is creating room for chaos. if you support criminalisation of saraki forgery case and celebrate buharis forgery of waec certificate, you are destroying the future of nigeria. Fayose is not under obligation to tell you how he funded his election till asked hence there is nothing like bubble burst. until we see APC campaign fund account, you dont know how buharis election was sponsored, it might have been funded from Iran or even by boko haram for all you know. And if you are a business man with long standing relationship with a bank, they themselves usually approach you begging you to come and take loan. I rejected unsolicited offers at least on two occasions for loans from bank. find out about this

StOla:
Did Fayose file loan application forms for the purpose of purchasing nomination form? Was any collateral tendered for a loan that wasn't even applied for?


I really do not understand why Nigerian youths pretend to be stupid just so they can convince themselves that a crime committed was not a crime at all, while looking for the most irrelevant comparison to vindicate their argument?

Now answer this question, since we know Buhari legitimately sourced loans from a bank to purchase the nomination form of the APC, how exactly did Fayose's bank legitimately sponsored his own campaign?

Some people truly think every Nigerian is an idiot who ought to support the criminal acts of politicians.

on the contrary you are the one pretending to be stupid here. tell me, what collateral did buhari used in securing his loan? if buhari could borrow just 27million to buy only nomination forms( meaning he and his friends could not afford it) tell me, how did he get his own billions to finance his election? most definately he borrowed too. if he didnt have to borrow billions for his election but he borrowed 27million for form, he was either just deceiving his fellow zombies or a bad manager of fund. so, can you tell me how he funded his election? facts pls. when you can answer these questions with facts not with only insults as done by zombies, then we can discuss more intelligently

oyinkinola:
The looters never find it hard like this before, at the begining they think it's a joke but now they know its no longer business as usual!
I never think it will happen in my life time, i thank God for her blessing on this country

you are so pathetic. i cant believe i am even commenting on such a useless thread. Looters like amaechi are really finding it hard . spit on thread

OrlandoOwoh:
These youths keep mentioning Ken Saro-Wiwa; I wonder why they don't adopt his non-violent agitation.

his non violent agitation that led to his violent death. you are funny

aresa:
It's perfectly ok for any leader to eat anywhere and if Fayose feels like spending his days and nights camped out with kponmo seller or ewa agonyin seller, good for him, but leadership is being productive, providing infrastructures to better the lives of the people, creating programs and policies move your people forward which till Fayose is allergic to and can not and can never do.

His brand of leadership is limited to roadside pandering and market runs.

Comparing Obama, one of the most productive and successful American presidents sitting down and conducting interview with the host of travel and food show with a market rat and unproductive comedian like Fayose

You are very comical just like the useless, lazy, unproductive and incompetent Fayose..


The crazy nonsense we read on NL sometimes sef...

governance is about providing infrastructure....name just one infrastructure that buhari has in place since assumption of his presidency one year ago. NOTHING. yet with the meagre incomee of ekiti, fayose dualised roads, lighten up roads and streets, built women empowerment centre. Fayose socialise with his people while buhari junketeer all over the world doing nothing but wasting the meagre forex we have. At least fayose is patronising made in nigeria ponmo. you are equally comical, lazy and as destructive as your mentor buhari who has destroyed nigerian economy over just one year

DaBullIT:
Dasuki did not sell state assets , he diverted funds meant for security for political campaign and selfish gain
Your brain still dey sleep ?

normally i dont trade words with unintelligent zombies but tell me if your own brain is not on sabbatical where they told you amaechi sold state assets from this quote-----He remains in his post despite being accused of misappropriating £338million by a commission investigating the sale of state assets.
he misappropriated funds. the misappropriation was discovered by a committee investigating sale of assets nowhere in the article was it stated that he sold asset for 300million pounds and even if it is state asset....it includes shares, bonds not just physical properties so think before you rush to defend your religion here----zombeism

mars123:
laws are promulgated by a military regime but enacted by a civilian regime...We are in a democracy, correct yourself.

tell me the difference between buhari democracy and military regime....both of them detain indefinately with or without court order

DropShot:
Each state has other mechanism to prosecute and recover stolen assets.

This report is obviously sponsored. If not, let Wike take Amaechi to court. After all, he set up judicial enquiry for that purpose. What has happened to the committee's report since?

Next tori joor.

no. it is not the duty of wike to take him to court. wike has petitioned efcc. let them at least investigate. Afterall they exonerated UMAR without taking him to court. they should do the same to wike. tell me why is efcc disturbing shekarau now. afterall he stole kano money. why not allow the state prosecute him. you guys are something else

DaBullIT:
I am reading and i don't understand


first the writeup says He remains in his post despite being accused of misappropriating £338million by a commission investigating the sale of state assets.

Then the writeup says he bankrolled the president's campaign


Someone please tell me which assets Amaechi sold in Rivers state that is worth 338 M pounds

when you tell us the asset dasuki sold that is worth 2billion dollars, i will tell what amaechi sold to get a meagre 300million pounds

seunmsg:
EFCC is not the only agency with powers of prosecution. When a civil servant steals from the state government, they don't usually wait for EFCC to prosecute him. Tell the ministry of justice in Rivers to do their job since EFCC have refused to prosecute. This is a federal democracy and the federal government doesn't have a monopoly over which case to prosecute or not.

tell me a single case of corruption involving a civil servant since the days of obasanjo that was prosecuted by any other agency other than EFCC. just paste the link to such news here pls