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PoliticsRe: Buhari's Bank Sponsored His Election And It Wasn't Corruption. by helpee(m):
louqas:
Read my first reply to you , a candidate is only required to buy nomination form while the party is expected to sponsor the candidate for the elections . Ever wonder why the cost of form is 27million for presidency? it's expected that the party has it's own money generating mechanisms I.e. dues ,levies, fund raising and even INEC gives political parties money . Fayose and zenith never mentioned any loan agreement between them so it wasn't a loan but since we don't know what is between the two keys not speculate.
Buratai declared the houses in his CCB forms so that means he had them before becoming chief of army it's left to EFCC to ask him the sources , no law is against acquiring wealth legitimately , not by using arms money to acquire properties.
Like a comment said GEJ has given you the freedom of information act use it to compel APC to release the details of their campaign funds, dasukigate has revealed how pdp election was funded.
APC has money generating mechanisms but PDP only had dasuki abi? The Apc members are such a genius they had money making skills while PDP members were dummies. I think i am either arguing with a small child or a pauper else what relationship will exist between zenith bank and fayose other than business/loan agreement. Banks dont do charity with their money. They do business with profit in sight. Buratai declared what in his CCB form? you are something else. so now that it is burratai, he could acquire money legitimately doing nothing other than army but every other person cant acquire money legally as long as they are PDP. buharatai is such a genius he could convert his salary to billions while PDP members are dummies. They can never do it except by dasuki. i dont think there is hope for this generation of nigerian youths if the future of this country lies with them. Pls note, buharatai bought those ppty when his salary was around 700k per month yet he had properties worth his hundrend years salary and by law, he cant be engaged in any thing other than military. yet he acquired them legitimately. buhari actually surrounded himself with genius
PoliticsRe: Buhari's Bank Sponsored His Election And It Wasn't Corruption. by helpee(m): 11:15am On Jun 26, 2016
louqas:
If you can go back to news sources during the electioneering you will find your answers. have you forgitten Lots of ordinary folks gave their little contributions together to aid pmb campaign ,have you forgotten about the old food seller that have her life savings? Have you forgotten the various donations from party members and well meaning individuals both home and abroad? Besides a candidate only has to purchase the nomination form the party sponsors him or her for the election.
This fayose issue is different because by his own admission the bank approached him and pledged to make some funds available for his election and asked him to nominate a person who will receive the money . While pmb approached the bank for a loan and provided collateral (how can you be asking someone here to tell you which collateral approach the bank of you want to know ) and he was granted a loan which is a public record . Is it not now that the bubble has burst that we know of zenith banks sponsoring of fayose.
ok. so why is it so difficult for posterity sake for APC and PMB to publish details of the account showing how the thousands donated by well meaning nigerians amounted to billions used in funding his campaign. How they changed all those kobos into dollars that was used to muscle out atiku during lagos primary. so, who told you zenith bank provided the funding for free without collateral? if i say my bank is funding my business, it simply means loan and nothing more. MY QUESTION...where were those well meaning Nigerians and party members that provided billions for the election when buhari needed common 27million for form. As far back as medical school, friends contributed money to buy me form when i contested as the president of the union.? you are yet to tell me what collateral buhari used? fayose contested against a sitting governor yet zenith had confidence to sponsor him knowing fully well he may lose, do you think they are so daft they wont protect their investment? if i ask you when will EFCC arrest buratai for having houses worth billions in dubai you will tell me it his savings but if i tell you same thing about fayose he must be a thief. look, we are all nigerians. we blindly supporting this govt selective prosecution of political opponents and very soon, it will boomerang. Abacha became abacha only after silencing opposition. IF fayose funded his election via bank and buhari did the same, persecuting fayose only is creating room for chaos. if you support criminalisation of saraki forgery case and celebrate buharis forgery of waec certificate, you are destroying the future of nigeria. Fayose is not under obligation to tell you how he funded his election till asked hence there is nothing like bubble burst. until we see APC campaign fund account, you dont know how buharis election was sponsored, it might have been funded from Iran or even by boko haram for all you know. And if you are a business man with long standing relationship with a bank, they themselves usually approach you begging you to come and take loan. I rejected unsolicited offers at least on two occasions for loans from bank. find out about this
PoliticsRe: Buhari's Bank Sponsored His Election And It Wasn't Corruption. by helpee(m): 10:40am On Jun 26, 2016
StOla:
Did Fayose file loan application forms for the purpose of purchasing nomination form? Was any collateral tendered for a loan that wasn't even applied for?


I really do not understand why Nigerian youths pretend to be stupid just so they can convince themselves that a crime committed was not a crime at all, while looking for the most irrelevant comparison to vindicate their argument?

Now answer this question, since we know Buhari legitimately sourced loans from a bank to purchase the nomination form of the APC, how exactly did Fayose's bank legitimately sponsored his own campaign?

Some people truly think every Nigerian is an idiot who ought to support the criminal acts of politicians.
on the contrary you are the one pretending to be stupid here. tell me, what collateral did buhari used in securing his loan? if buhari could borrow just 27million to buy only nomination forms( meaning he and his friends could not afford it) tell me, how did he get his own billions to finance his election? most definately he borrowed too. if he didnt have to borrow billions for his election but he borrowed 27million for form, he was either just deceiving his fellow zombies or a bad manager of fund. so, can you tell me how he funded his election? facts pls. when you can answer these questions with facts not with only insults as done by zombies, then we can discuss more intelligently
PoliticsRe: One Year Of Buhari In Office Is A Bad Year For The Looters by helpee(m): 6:31pm On May 29, 2016
oyinkinola:
The looters never find it hard like this before, at the begining they think it's a joke but now they know its no longer business as usual!
I never think it will happen in my life time, i thank God for her blessing on this country
you are so pathetic. i cant believe i am even commenting on such a useless thread. Looters like amaechi are really finding it hard . spit on thread
PoliticsRe: Nobody Can Arrest Jonathan, Ijaw Youths Tell Buhari by helpee(m): 8:51am On May 27, 2016
OrlandoOwoh:
These youths keep mentioning Ken Saro-Wiwa; I wonder why they don't adopt his non-violent agitation.
his non violent agitation that led to his violent death. you are funny
PoliticsRe: Who Did It Better:governor Fayose Or President Obama???(photos) by helpee(m): 5:39pm On May 25, 2016
aresa:
It's perfectly ok for any leader to eat anywhere and if Fayose feels like spending his days and nights camped out with kponmo seller or ewa agonyin seller, good for him, but leadership is being productive, providing infrastructures to better the lives of the people, creating programs and policies move your people forward which till Fayose is allergic to and can not and can never do.

His brand of leadership is limited to roadside pandering and market runs.

Comparing Obama, one of the most productive and successful American presidents sitting down and conducting interview with the host of travel and food show with a market rat and unproductive comedian like Fayose

You are very comical just like the useless, lazy, unproductive and incompetent Fayose..


The crazy nonsense we read on NL sometimes sef...
governance is about providing infrastructure....name just one infrastructure that buhari has in place since assumption of his presidency one year ago. NOTHING. yet with the meagre incomee of ekiti, fayose dualised roads, lighten up roads and streets, built women empowerment centre. Fayose socialise with his people while buhari junketeer all over the world doing nothing but wasting the meagre forex we have. At least fayose is patronising made in nigeria ponmo. you are equally comical, lazy and as destructive as your mentor buhari who has destroyed nigerian economy over just one year
PoliticsRe: Amaechi Accused Of Stealing £500million - Dailymail Uk by helpee(op): 2:49pm On May 15, 2016
DaBullIT:
Dasuki did not sell state assets , he diverted funds meant for security for political campaign and selfish gain
Your brain still dey sleep ?
normally i dont trade words with unintelligent zombies but tell me if your own brain is not on sabbatical where they told you amaechi sold state assets from this quote-----He remains in his post despite being accused of misappropriating £338million by a commission investigating the sale of state assets.
he misappropriated funds. the misappropriation was discovered by a committee investigating sale of assets nowhere in the article was it stated that he sold asset for 300million pounds and even if it is state asset....it includes shares, bonds not just physical properties so think before you rush to defend your religion here----zombeism
PoliticsRe: Amaechi Accused Of Stealing £500million - Dailymail Uk by helpee(op): 12:27pm On May 15, 2016
mars123:
laws are promulgated by a military regime but enacted by a civilian regime...We are in a democracy, correct yourself.
tell me the difference between buhari democracy and military regime....both of them detain indefinately with or without court order
PoliticsRe: Amaechi Accused Of Stealing £500million - Dailymail Uk by helpee(op): 12:24pm On May 15, 2016
DropShot:
Each state has other mechanism to prosecute and recover stolen assets.

This report is obviously sponsored. If not, let Wike take Amaechi to court. After all, he set up judicial enquiry for that purpose. What has happened to the committee's report since?

Next tori joor.
no. it is not the duty of wike to take him to court. wike has petitioned efcc. let them at least investigate. Afterall they exonerated UMAR without taking him to court. they should do the same to wike. tell me why is efcc disturbing shekarau now. afterall he stole kano money. why not allow the state prosecute him. you guys are something else
PoliticsRe: Amaechi Accused Of Stealing £500million - Dailymail Uk by helpee(op): 12:18pm On May 15, 2016
DaBullIT:
I am reading and i don't understand


first the writeup says He remains in his post despite being accused of misappropriating £338million by a commission investigating the sale of state assets.

Then the writeup says he bankrolled the president's campaign


Someone please tell me which assets Amaechi sold in Rivers state that is worth 338 M pounds
when you tell us the asset dasuki sold that is worth 2billion dollars, i will tell what amaechi sold to get a meagre 300million pounds
PoliticsRe: Amaechi Accused Of Stealing £500million - Dailymail Uk by helpee(op): 12:16pm On May 15, 2016
seunmsg:
EFCC is not the only agency with powers of prosecution. When a civil servant steals from the state government, they don't usually wait for EFCC to prosecute him. Tell the ministry of justice in Rivers to do their job since EFCC have refused to prosecute. This is a federal democracy and the federal government doesn't have a monopoly over which case to prosecute or not.
tell me a single case of corruption involving a civil servant since the days of obasanjo that was prosecuted by any other agency other than EFCC. just paste the link to such news here pls
PoliticsRe: Amaechi Accused Of Stealing £500million - Dailymail Uk by helpee(op): 12:07pm On May 15, 2016
DropShot:
If Amaechi actually stole from Rivers state and the current governor cannot prosecute him, he is an Ineffectual Buffoon.

Buhari is to FG what Wike is to Rivers State. EOD.
so you agree that EFCC is being used by buhari abi? maybe each state should promulgate a law that will set up their own state financial crimes commission such that as EFCC is exonerating UMAR the state will be indicting him
PoliticsRe: Amaechi Accused Of Stealing £500million - Dailymail Uk by helpee(op): 12:05pm On May 15, 2016
seunmsg:
This useless UK dailymail again? Instead of investigating their stories properly and getting the facts of the matter, they just copy unsubstantiated lies from PDP propaganda sites and publish to unsuspecting British public.

If any commission in Rivers state is so sure that Amaechi misappropriated £338million, the Rivers state government through the Rivers state ministry of justice should charge him to court. He has no immunity from criminal prosecution, they should charge him to court and stop making wild allegations.

Buhari is already prosecuting those who stole at the federal level, state should please join the fight against corruption by prosecuting those who stole state funds.
now that it is amaechi, EFCC should keep quiet while ministry of justice should take over. so, essentially, EFCC is now the prosecuting arm of APC. for your information, it is the duty of EFCC to investigate and prosecute financial crimes whether it involves husband and wife or state or federal govt.
PoliticsRe: Amaechi Accused Of Stealing £500million - Dailymail Uk by helpee(op): 11:57am On May 15, 2016
bigboss80s:
I think Buhari should go easy on those who stole money that was meant for bribing INEC officials for GEJ's reelection since his election was funded by dirty money as well.
The truth is that it is close to impossible to become Nigeria's president without making certain compromises but that doesn't mean that we can't change things.
but buhari should compensate those that dollarised lagos with bribes, matching atiku dollar for dollar using state funds. That one is not dirty money...it is clean OIL money.
PoliticsAmaechi Accused Of Stealing £500million - Dailymail Uk by helpee(op): 11:45am On May 15, 2016
Is Nigerian leader's pal 'fantastically corrupt'? Friend of African president accused of stealing £500million

* Muhammadu Buhari seen by some as leading the battle against corruption
*But worrying allegations swirl around one of Nigerian leader's close allies
*Rotimi Amaechi accused of misappropriating £338m commission probing sale of state assets
*Also accused of diverting £140m of state funds into Buhari’s presidential campaign


When David Cameron was caught on camera last week before an anti-corruption summit describing Nigeria as ‘fantastically corrupt’, the African state’s president rallied to the Prime Minister’s defence by agreeing with him.

But although Muhammadu Buhari is seen by some as leading the battle against corruption, worrying allegations swirl around one of his close allies.

Rotimi Amaechi, who travelled with the president to the summit, is Nigeria’s transport minister and is said to have bankrolled Buhari’s presidential campaign.

In the Nigerian press he has been dubbed ‘ATM’ – the American term for cash machine – because of his ability to produce vast sums of money at short notice.

He remains in his post despite being accused of misappropriating £338million by a commission investigating the sale of state assets.

Some of that money is likely to have come from UK taxpayers, who gave the country £1billion in aid over five years to 2014, including £248million in 2014 alone.

Separately, Amaechi is accused of diverting £140million of state funds into Buhari’s presidential campaign, with reports he paid for media, consultants and private jets.

The allegations come as the president stands accused of enjoying a lavish lifestyle while many millions suffer in poverty.

A leaked draft budget for 2016 showed the Nigerian government earmarked £16million for the refurbishment and maintenance of the president’s official residence, Aso Rock Guest House, in the capital Abuja.

There was also a request for £13million for building a VIP wing at a hospital used by families of the president and his ministerial team.

Mr Amaechi has denied the allegations against him.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3590934/Is-Nigerian-leader-s-pal-fantastically-corrupt-Friend-African-president-accused-stealing-500million.html

EducationRe: Exam Question For 500Level Lautech Students by helpee(m): 11:35am On May 14, 2016
CACAWA:
Lol
[size=18pt]so if we are only to do No 1 and 2, what about number 9 that says SUBMIT? Or would he come and collect it by himself?[/size]
the answer is in the first instruction which says you must read it carefully before you start. so, you are expected to finish reading te instruction before starting so you wont ever need number 9 before submiting
RomanceRe: My Boss Or My Boyfriend -- Who Do I Choose ? by helpee(m): 6:36am On May 14, 2016
Who are you deceiving? Naturally your boyfriend should be happy your career is progressing but you know the truth....you are fucking your boss! That is why you are the only one qualified to do the job. The four day presentation in southie will be done by the two of you inside hotel room. Your boyfriend has warned you about the relationship. That is why you know telling him will end the relationship. Dont create another SHONDE pls. Let go of the guy so you can enjoy your project in peace. Truly, your boss promised you a cut from the project but he is just deceiving you using a new investor stuff to Bleep you during his trip to SA. Make your choice. Bleep him, collect your share if any and forget your BF or forget the trip. if your oga fails to fulfil his part of the deal dont tell us another story that touches the heart
RomanceRe: My Boss Or My Boyfriend -- Who Do I Choose ? by helpee(m): 6:30am On May 14, 2016
Who are you deceiving? Naturally your boyfriend should be happy your career is progressing but you know the truth....you are fucking your boss! That is why you are the only one qualified to do the job. The four day presentation in southie will be done by the two of you inside hotel room. Your boyfriend has warned you about the relationship. Truly, your boss promised you a cut from the project but he is just deceiving you using a new investot stuff to Bleep you during his trip to SA. Make your choice. Bleep him, collect your share if any and foeget your BF or forget the trip but if your oga fails to fulfil his part of the deal dont tell us another story that touches the heart
BusinessRe: The Nigerian Naira Failed To Respond To The Euphoria That Came With The Signing by helpee(m): 7:21am On May 08, 2016
shevon:
A budget that was signed when? How long did it take for NGN to slide from N218 to the present rate? 3 days?
I keep saying this and I always will, I don't belong to any party but we Nigerians are the architect of our present predicament. We always want magicians as policy makes and if Professor Pella had contested for any political office, we'd not have cast one vote for him.
This write up is premature as far as I'm concerned.
there is nothing magical about it. Simple economics. It just shows the investors dont trust the budget . When news break, currencies all over the world react either positively or negatively. For example, if they believe the signing of the budget will strengthen naira against dollar, speculators holding dollars will want to sell in anticipation of rise in naira. Investors can inject money into the system in anticipation of govt spending for their products and services. This can happen in minutes self. It has nothing to do with implementation. So, if the naira is not excited the budget is signed, it means investors dont believe in your budget and that is not too good a news
PoliticsRe: CCT Trial: You Have No Power To Try Me – Saraki Dares Tribunal Judge by helpee(m): 7:42am On Apr 28, 2016
Dakad:
I'm neither for Umar nor for Saraki. I'm for justice. My point is clear, Umar might not have moral justification to preside over any case if he's been indicted by EFCC. However, Saraki doesn't have moral right to ask him to handover the case. Reason being that in a sane society Saraki should have resign long ago to clear his name. Though any accused person is innocent until proved guilty but he shouldn't have dragged that highly exalted office to such a mess. Moreover, Saraki is not being prosecuted by EFCC as you claim. Rather Saraki is being prosecuted by the Federal government over asset declaration. So I don't see how EFCC can influence Umar in any way.

Honestly, I rather prefer Saraki defend himself and clear him name since he claimed not guilty instead of using all these delay tactics.
while i dont want to keep arguing over this issue but tell me, how do you want saraki to clear his name when he is telling you that the judge is already biased against him? Meaning no matter how he proves his case, the judge body language shows he is only going to go against him. You dont clear your name before your enemy. You clear your name before a neutral person. Who is prosecuting the case before CCB? Is it attorney general or EFCC yet you say it is federal govt. Efcc is under who? State govt i guess. You guys should leave politics aside. You want to force saraki to defend himself before a court he knows he will be surely pronounced guilty and you think that is justice. Delay tactics? Do you know it is better for a guilty man to escape than for innocent man to be punished. Justice must be seen to be done and if saraki says this judge is biased against, change him. That is the way the law operates. Like i earlier argued, saraki may orr may not resign but that is a moral issue since he cant use his position to alter justice directly anyway but umar case is not a moral issue, he must give way for justice. He is the one presiding over this case so his resignation from this case is statutory for iustice.
PoliticsRe: CCT Trial: You Have No Power To Try Me – Saraki Dares Tribunal Judge by helpee(m):
ikwubaba:
Police can investigate and discharge you. That is a fact. The court only comes in if you are charged.

I still ask, if a police ever arrest and discharge you even the previous day, does that mean you cannot preside over a criminal case brought by police again? Assuming a judge is wrongfully accused of a crime, arrested and discharged, he should be perpetually disqualified from entertaining a criminal case? you just answer

If the chairman now disqualifies himself, who continues the case? Another chairman to be screened by the same senate?

People like you who want the perpetuation of corruption will not see the impending conflict and lacuna. Or, actually, it is what you want, so Saraki (I'm sure he is your mentor) can go Scot free.

Mba ohhh!!!
For your information, police cant discharge you. you are probably mistaking dispute resolution especially in civil cases which occurs daily at the police station to mean you are being discharged and acquited. They may not press charges against you for lack of evidence in criminal cases but they can never discharge you. And when they are not sure, they refer to DPP in the ministry of justice headed by attorney general. In this cas, the attorney general advised that umar should be prosecuted, Efcc said they are discharging him. you guys want to stand law on its head. For your information, i hate traitors so i hate saraki. But i dont want him persecuted just because he offended tinubu or buhari,. Even you can offend tinubu tommorrow so they can stand law on its head just to get back at you. That on its own is corruption. If a judge is being investigated by a police officer, the judge will naturally excuse himself if such a police officer has a case under him cos the police can use evidence gathered during investigation to blackmail the judge so stop writing like a novice
PoliticsRe: CCT Trial: You Have No Power To Try Me – Saraki Dares Tribunal Judge by helpee(m): 5:28pm On Apr 27, 2016
Deen77:
Umar will judge Saraki and Senate will Judge Umar. Nigeria is bigger then d two.
senate dont have the powers to judge. They make laws and the judiciary interpret it. so, senate cannot judge umar and for the sake of justice, umar should not be allowed to judge saraki.
PoliticsRe: CCT Trial: You Have No Power To Try Me – Saraki Dares Tribunal Judge by helpee(m): 5:15pm On Apr 27, 2016
adanny01:
Use your God given head, think harder!

Why do you think Saraki wants Umar gone. There is only one reason.

A new CCT Chairman must be screened by the senate. In which case, Saraki and his cohorts will only approved any judge who promises to throw the case away. Imagine judges lobbying Saraki to become the CCT Judge, what do you think is at stake? JUSTICE!

It is impunity waiting to happen and every right thinking Nigerian must reject it. No one should be allowed to appoint the very judge that will dock him. That is a prerequisite for complete bias and impunity.
you are right. no one, including the EFCC should be allowed to have a hold on the judge that will preside over his case. The fact that EFCC can decide to prosecute Umar tommrrow means he must do whatever they want to evade prosecution. Saraki can excuse himself from the plenary when it is time to confirm the new judge. It is still buhari that will send the name of CCB chairman to senate and senate cant just say we are not confirming this person for no reason
PoliticsRe: CCT Trial: You Have No Power To Try Me – Saraki Dares Tribunal Judge by helpee(m): 5:10pm On Apr 27, 2016
ikwubaba:
Nice logic. In other words, if you have ever being arrested by a police. Even if you are finally discharge and acquitted, you can never preside over a criminal case again. in short, no need to continue with you law programme. And if you have graduated, you go look for something else to do abi. Because, they can always reopen your case if you do not jail every accuse brought to your court.

Common sense no common atall.
my guy this your comparison is too shallow and your illogical reasoning definately confirm that common sense is so uncommon in your so called logic . Who told you umar can never preside over a criminal case again? normal logic says you cant preside over a case between parties if you are entangled with one of the parties? By the way, is umar the only judge we have in nigeria? Who acquitted umar? EFCC. Tell me when did EFCC become the prosecutor and the judge at the same time? How can EFCC discharge you? Police dont discharge and acquit people. only the court of law does. Police only investigate and they leave the court to acquit.
PoliticsRe: CCT Trial: You Have No Power To Try Me – Saraki Dares Tribunal Judge by helpee(m): 3:59pm On Apr 27, 2016
Dakad:
What you said is absolutely correct. However it should be raise by same Saraki who is still presiding over the senate despite being alleged. Moreover, Umar had been cleared by EFCC. Saraki does not have a moral justification for what he's asking for
saraki being the senate president cant use his position to alter justice in this case but the position of umar can either obstruct or mar justice. if he goes against EFCC, they can reopen his case so he has to do whatever they ask him even if it is not just so UMAR can not preside over a case involving EFCC since he has a case with them. Infact, we can claim he was cleared by EFCC on the understanding he must convict saraki in return. so, saraki is right. Umar must excuse himself from this case not from being CCB chairman. nobody is asking him to resign as CCB chairman based on allegation but excuse himself from this particular case so it has nothing to do with wether saraki resign as senate president or not
PoliticsRe: Resign, Saraki: Protesters At National Assembly by helpee(m): 1:54pm On Apr 26, 2016
ok but if they have any sense, they will rather lock down the ASO ROCK demanding for buhari's resignation for culpability in the wanton destruction of lives and properties by fulani herdsmen. this is more paramount now and especially since buhari himself rear cows so some of those murderers if properly investigated may be rearing his cows
PoliticsRe: Saraki Presides Over Plenary Session by helpee(m): 1:06pm On Apr 19, 2016
Firefire:
The criminal Senate President should resign immediately, what is he waiting for ? DISGRACE bah ? Bukola Saraki, you will surely be disgrace out. Ole buruku.

As many supporting looters of our common wealth in Nigeria, may your destiny be looted. angry
AMEN. i hope you dont support TINUBU, AMAECHI and co because if you do, that prayer request will start from you.

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