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helpee: google the woman's case and come back to apologise you fool. It was debated at the house self. For ur information, anytime I come to UK I give people like you pocket money so don't think cos u are trapped in ur slavery in UK u know more than others. I've been to UK to attend at least three medical conferences in the last six months.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2192694/Nigerian-woman-needing-Caesarean-immediately-flies-Britain-operation--costing-UK-taxpayers-10-000.html |
coogar: you're a fool.....google the woman's case and come back to apologise you fool. It was debated at the house self. For ur information, anytime I come to UK I give people like you pocket money so don't think cos u are trapped in ur slavery in UK u know more than others. I've been to UK to attend at least three medical conferences in the last six months. |
@coogar. See yourself. You are saying you are not supposed to be paying for patient but Govt should do abi? So it is the doctors that should be paying for them. What an hypocrite you are. |
coogar: that was an exceptional case.....keep shut. This woman ran back to lagos else she would have been arrested. So u think it is normal for nigerians to use NHS without paying? So if u do the same back home in our private hospitals who pays? I just ignored u since because u are not reasonable in ur argument. We are talking about a case that even th PM of UK commented on. Wait till anoda sharp nigerian run away without paying bills and see wether they won't start demanding for deposit b4 accepting u |
frosbel: The UK citizens were enraged because it is abnormal, in Nigeria no one is enraged, in fact , they even make excuses for this type of behaviour because it is normal.so to an average nigerian it is normal to run away from hospital without paying hospital bills...and u are here blaming the doctor for demanding for deposit b4 treatment since it is normal for them to run away after treatment if I may quote u. So? |
frosbel: In the UK no one gets billed for emergency treatment , I say great !!u must have been sleeping when the whole of UK was annoyed that a Nigerian woman took advantage of NHs to do an emergency CS and ran away witout paying. U know how much the money cost? Millions in naira just for CS that I do for 60K and people won't pay. And u know what? If such should happen again, NHS will start demanding for deposit from nigerians b4 treatment. Just one case and the whole of UK was enraged. Imagine this is what they do to me everyday |
thegoodjoehunt:for the doctor to start treatment of what? Why are u like this? U think doctors are magicians? This man only had 5K and so if the doctor even want to find out the cause of the problem he can't cos the money is too small. If the doctor misdiagnose the patient now u will run back to the internet and start saying nigerian doctors couldn't diagnose a common ailment. With 5K. What u call a common ailment may need an MRI to diagnose which will cost more than a 100K. Stop deceiving yourself...these guys were fair on this family. Walk in2 st Nicholas hospital with such an emergency and u will deposit nothing less than 300K. Get this right...it cost money to save lives. Even if they will pay later once the hospital can't afford the treatment u can't blame them the same u can't blame the husband that couldn't afford more than 5K at that moment. Govt don't stock drugs for us. U don't pay ur tithe to hospital but to pastors and we still pay tax and our children school fees. So if u think health is important, give hospital grants, tax breaks etc. Until then don't blame me if I reject ur wife in labour cos of bill |
thegoodjoehunt:has it ever occurred to u that for this woman to eventually die it must have been a serious case and the doctors are only trying to help by demanding for 20K? So it is not about the 25percent pf the deposit. For ur infrmation, some cases require investigations b4 u even start treatment. Assuming they want to check the electrolytes and creatinine of this woman with ultasound scan and ECG and lipid profile. U are already talking about money in excess of 25K. Assuming they have to send it to a nearby laboratory to do it, don't u think they will pay 4 it? So in that situation, they should use their salaries to take care of it abi? Be reasonable for once please. 20K is too meagre a deposit for the family 2 complain in a life threatening situation |
frosbel: Pal, if you were my brother and the doctor who refused to treat this woman, I will disown you , honestly.if you can do half of what I've done for patient in my practise as a doctor, u will be fulfilled my brother and that is despite the fact that I reject a lot of patients. I am not God and I don't pretend to be one. Let me tell u a story. They brought in a man with heamorragic stroke to my hospital unconscious two weeks ago, cos of the need for CT scan, I took the patient immediately in our hospital ambulance, gave a detailed referral note and accompanied it with an experience nurse and referred to LASUTH. They rejected the patient cos of lack of bed space in the emergency ward and we said they should admit in ICU but they insisted we must deposit 350K first. The family only had 40K and they refused. After like 5hrs the patient died infront of the A and E at lasuth and the family used the 40k to transport him to the east. So even Govt hospital in Nigeria reject patient cos of deposit. The man I am talking about is yet to be buried so if u don't understand how the system works in Nigeria keep salivating in ur hallucination that a doctor is wicked cos he demanded for deposit |
frosbel: Any doctor who refuses to attend to an emergency life threatening medical situation because of common 20k Naira has no business being a doctor, he should be fired and prosecuted.this man go and sleep. So if the 20K is meant to buy blood the doctor should keep attending to patient without having the neccessary to save life. I will rather tell them to take the patient elsewhere if I can't help. The 20K may be needed for drugs. You should be ashamed of ur country self. So u think 20K is what is needed to save life in an emergency situation? They are even demanding for such a meagre amount and u are running mouth. Check most US hospitals. It cost an average of 10K in dollars per day in ICU. That over a million naira. If the hospital don't have insurance that wil cover their back u think they will take u wtout deposit? 20K that can't buy more than a pint of blood |
thegoodjoehunt:keep deceiving yourself. Why did u wait till it was an emergency before u started rushing in with your so called SUV. Maybe they didn't start treatment too late, u got there too late. Look...stop expecting doctors to treat u for free even in emergencies unless the Govt or the insurance is willing to cover the back of the doctor in case of default. People are owing me millions in fees and I dare not owe pharmacist that supply me drugs. After the death of ur twin how much did u pay them for their effort? Rather u will be blaming them that it was because they started treatment late meaning u didn't want to pay and cos they don't have mortuary they will allow u to go at loss to them and next time u think they won't rather demand for deposit than risk it again. U either believe it or not but that is what they will do. |
@frobel. Rather you are the one not getting the point. Doctors are not trained to act on emotions. A life must be saved? How do u know? For all u care, that woman may need an emergency tranfusion with blood that you may have to buy from the bank with 30k. So the doctor should dip his hand in the pocket and pay. And he may even want to do that but for how many people? The woman may need an emergency surgery that u need to call another specialist to come and do. So u will give the specialist stories that they are yet to pay? A life must be saved but doctors are not under the illussion they can help everybody so don't blame them if they can't save a life due to something beyond their power. For ur information, a thousand lives need to be saved not just a life per day in our different hospitals so how many of them do u want to do charity for. We are the one on ground and we are telling u what is happening you are still saying a life must be saved. U think u have more human feelings than I do? Think again |
Fr0sbel: You are still not getting the point. |
Nigerians will never see the issue as it is. If u are blaming the doctors and the hospital, this problem will always occur and it can be anybody. Private hospitals don't just wake up to start collecting deposits. I have operated several people without deposit and they will never pay afterwards. The only time u can get money is when the issue is still hot...the moment u finish treating them, they will not pay and if you don't allow them to go they will call u wicked. For ur information, I started my hospital with a bank loan, I pay exhorbitant fees from lawma to nepa to ministry not to talk of staff, drugs, equpments, consumables. I have patients yet I was accumulating debts cos I don't collect deposit. Medicine is not charity. It cost a lot of money to save lives. Ask people that travel abroad for medicare, they pay in millions. We only get to hear of cases like this once it has happened but the ones the doctor did without collecting deposit and who eventually didn't pay none of u will hear. Until nigerians start to be reasonable and faithful, if I know that after treating you you will pay my bills why won't I do so? Assuming this hospital treated that woman without deposit and she still ends up dying, they may not pay again. So who bear the cost of the money spent. As long as nigerians assume that health is charity and doctors should work for free we will continue to travel out before we get good medicare |
@frosbel. Let me dignify some of ur points with a response. U said u follow jesus and not church and u owe allegiance to only jesus. U mean the same jesus u have never seen in person? So easy to state ur allegiance to jesus while condeming everything that the same jesus stands for. The same jesus said upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. So even jesus is interested in his church. You can't throw away everything that has to do with jesus while claiming you love him. If jesus were to be alive today, you will never follow him. You are too critical and too. Pharisee minded to accept the person of jesus. The same jesus that allowed a woman to rub expensive perfume on his feet, that rode on brandnew horse which was the most expensive means of transportation during his time, whose cloth the roman soldiers were fighting over. Do u think the roman soldiers were so poor they would be fighting over a rag assuming jesus was wearing one. U can't exist in xtianity as an island. You will only be exposing urself as an ignorant in the thins of God. Why do u think the bible says we should not forsake tha assembly of the brethren? Is it by chance that jjesus wrote letters to the different churches in revelation. He didn't tell anybody to abadon those churches...he only told them to ammend their ways except the philadephia church. Even at that the philadephia church had a NAME! So u can't tell me u don't have a church and u are a xtian. Apostle paul was writing the epistles to churches with a NAME. Corithian churh, ephesian church etc. U are just like elisha when he was at his lowest state spiritually and he told God that all brethren had forsaken God except him but God told him he had reserved at least ten thousand saints. So while hypocrites like u assume that every church is a fraud, jesus is fulfilling his promise that ON THIS ROCK I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it |
4get this @frosbel. He is filled with hate for everybody. At best a confused bible apologist but will make better sense being an atheist. Deeper life and its false doctines...frosbel! Mohammed is a fraud...frosbel. Catholics are demonic...frosbel. Oyedepo and adeboye are fraudsters cos of tithe...frosbel. Isrealis are demons...frosbel. Ultimately, you will start a thread saying you just discovered that Jesus is fraud. Cos u were once a catholic and now u realise they are demonic. U were once in deeper life and now u know they practise false doctrines. U were once paying tithe and now u realise that they were robbing u instead of u robbing God. Very soon...u will soon realise that even Jesus is a fraud and so will end up as an atheist. |
eggheaders: who called for it?? murdering a innocent 13 years old boy.what is jabari offence for crying out loud.is it an offence to go to negociating table with the Zionist hypocrites.you muslim terrorist always play the victim. You are here on nairaland spewing rubbish. By the time isreal descend on them now, you will come back here start shouting genocide and ur stupid boko haram brothers will start their usual allahu akbar in the name of protest after your usual hatred preaching in the mosque. This was the way one stupid was talking in 2006 when isreal descended on hezbollah. After a few weeks the same stupid guy started saying isreal was guity of genocide. Get this fact in2 ur skull...islam and not zionism is the problem we have in this world. Wherever you are unlucky to have islam there must be violence |
Logicboy03: Where did this brainwashed zionist christian come from?better be brainwashed as a zionist than a terrorist. Boko haramist in the making |
And he did not start the tradition of using your smartphone to post jargons on nairaland. |
@frosbel. U are one hell of a disillussioned guy. I studied your different posts from trinity to pastors to tithes and I discovered that you were probably once a xtian and now confused and instead of u to admit it, u come to nairaland to justify your lost glory with God. While the isrealis may not be completely saints they are at least more civil that hamas whose purpose is to wipe out the state of isreal. Forget the person with superior power. The palestinians are hiding under the status of underdogs to fire missiles and u kept ur dirty mouth shut. Now the isrealis killed a military man, that heads the military unit of an organisation that fired 700 rockets in2 isreal and are here saying the hamas could be our brothers and sisters...the same way BOKO haram is also our brothers. So, the isrealis would have been nice to keep quiet while their enemies acquire enough missiles to send them to extintion the way hitler tried to do while bigots like you keep telling us palestinians are the saints. U said the article demonise palestinians but ur own response almost painted the terrorist as saints and the zionist as demons so u are no better as an hypocrites. I stopped responding to ur confused post a long time ago but ur confusion keeps eating deep in2 ur miserable xtian life. U can't even name ur church that associate with yet u criticise every church and every other religion. Don't tell me that God is not interested in ur congregation otherwise he wouldn't have sent messages to different churches in revelation and he called them by their names and descibed their xteristics and told them their faults. I don't support violence but their will always be violence as long as a group of people don't believe that isreal should exist and if u are supporting such people then u are anti God and at best a non xtian |
234GT: Hamas should just call on their allies and attack Israel. I am sure Iran and other anti-US nations will be ready to join hamas.I hope you won't start shouting genocide on this forum by the time isreal descend on them. Go and ask hezbollah and lebanon in 2006 |
seanet01: Israel makes Hitler look like a Saint.what is wrong with u? Who else should isreal kill? They killed the head of a military arm of an organisation whose purpose is the extinction of isreal. If they kill children now u go talk. If they kill civilian u go talk. Now they killed somebody that masterminded thousands of rocket fired in2 isreal annd u still have guts to talk. Use ur brai b4 u type next time |
nne3870: Come to think of it, does he really need a private jet? May be to supervise the activities of CAN all over nigeria.... Whereas there are alot of christians who have no place to lay their heads as a result of the flood yet his overwhelming church members did not think of donating such money to them.... Let he who has give unto those who lacks. My opinion thoughplease kindly post the teller you used in making payment in2 the account created to help flood victims. U probably don't even know the account existed. You could have made a difference by depositing as little as 1K in2 that account but instead u prefer to pay 3K MTN subscription 4 blackberry in order to bash a pastor that bought a jet. Has it occurred to u that u are not different from that pastor. Do u and ur husband really need car despite the fact that all your family members are so poor and many of them living under brigde. Why can't u sell that car ist and use it to help them before u come here to start saying rubbish |
Muffy2912: What an Irony?Check the church memebers they claimed to have purchased the jet and you will see poverty written over them.Its is a shame.if you indeed want to practise xtianity, you are not supposed to be online using ur smartphone especially since u have so much experience in identifying poor people. Jesus told that rich man to sell all he has and then give them to the poor. By now, you should have sold ur smartphone and use the money to feed the poor. That u are going about with smartphone and probably a car instead of emulating jesus who never had a car shows that you are a shameless xtian who can only identify poor people but can't help them |
playcharles: Its a gift... From were, who and how... Parking the jet.. From were wud the funding come from...shaaarap! Did they seek ur opinion about where to park it? Or they asked your father for funding? |
But the same El rufai gave land gift to his relatives in abuja. So BH na PDP branch, CAN na PDP branch and if na xtians talk am now, them go carry arms say they don insult islam. So na only caliphate be the branch of CPC abi? I hope this mallam is jailed for his land deals |
What is the idea behind this thread? U don't post any design, u just keep promising us that good design awaits us. Why should we believe when u don't post prototype of ur designs here. Why won't I go for iheboreke and other guys on this board who post beautiful designs every week. I think I will trust them more cos they have confidence in what they are doing. Stop promising us what u can do, start showing us by posting good designs regularly and u will be surprised about the patronage from nairaland |
U guys are funny. Only haters. Why now? Pastors buy jet u dey vex. MTN promise to give out jet, u dey vex and now, congregation buy jet for their pastor, u dey vex. What is ur problem? Bunch of hypocrites. If I say u are all afflicted with poverty now some of u will start attacking me saying u have made all the monies I can't make in a lifetime. Afterall, na anonymous forum so u fit say u be dangote self. But if you are not poor, you are probably riding an average SUV. My own moderate SUV cost me 4million and gulps a lot of money in maintenance. If u fall in2 the same shoe as myself then u are not better the pastors. Why not sell ur SUV, use it to buy okada and use the rest to feed the poor cos there are many poors among us. Better go get a life instead of joining a bandwagon crowd of poverty accursed group of people always willing to join the train when a pastor is being mocked |
Stop posting on ur thread unneccessarily. 90percent of people following ur thread are not interested in ur word of wisdom. We are following u to see beautiful designs. Each time u post I rush down here thinking u have posted a new design only to start reading daily nuggets. Learn how to post only when u have a good design to post or when u are relpying a query. There is a guy called iheboreke on this forum. He post very wonderful designs and each time he post I know it must be a new design. If u keep posting things that are not relevant to this topic it will eventually become boring and people won't follow u. This thread can last for several years if u post only quality designs. I will call u this week to book an appointment on my project |
You are the one that don't really understand the purpose of education. Need I remind you that akingbola that became the managing director of intercontinental bank started as a cleaner? So u think you just start something from space. Let them start it, gather something from it and then start up their own business. |
What is the fuss with graduates applying for dangote's job as drivers all about? To be honest with you, this will not make news in america. Colonel sanders started kentucky fried chicken by moving from door to door with his chicken recipe. Havard schooled Bill Gate started microsoft in a garage. The most important success stories in america started from the garages. Why is it so convenient for doctors, lawyers of nigerian origin to go to america and be sweeping streets in cold weather but when they do it back home it becomes an abberation. Americans are proud to do dirty jobs and be considered hardworking and let us imbibe such spirit here. That a graduate started as driver doesn't mean he won't end up as MD later. We should rather be happy that more nigerians are beginning to take hardwork as priority no matter what name u call the work. Wether driver, cleaners. This is the spirit that built america. Let us imbibe it please |
I am following u already. I will need u to design a hospital 4 me. I just bought a two 3 bedroom flat uncompleted to lintel level. I want to restructure it to a hospital. I am in lagos. Can u send me some prototype designs. And if I want to bring you on site for the design how much will u take? For the design and for coming to see it yourself on site |
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