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A hausa man became a mayor in Enugu cos prior to colonalism, igbo is the least organised of the 3 tribes that made up the Nigeria. Hausas have a well organised caliphate, yorubas had a replubican type of govt headed by kingship. Igbos were decentrlised into several clans without leadership. So naturally they were not leaders. They needed somebody to take the initiative for them. So it was suspect why ZIK would say igbo would lead africa if not for his tribalistic instinct. Igbo that coulnt lead itself?

cjrane: Hehehe,
Before 1957, a Hausa man had been a Mayor in Enugu. Yoruba men had many positions and businesses in the eastern region.Everyone knows that in 1957, Eyo ITa was the Premier of the East and Nnamdi Azikiwe defeated Awolowo to become the Premier of western region. Awolowo then played his trumph card of tribalism to force the then "detribalised Yorubas" that had voted for Zik to cross carpet overnight. That singular act resounded across Nigeria that you cannot become a premier in a region other than your tribal area. A situation which has continued until date. It is tragic that Awolowo killed the chance of Nigeria ever being a true country out of his inordinate ambition to become premier in the western region.

[quote author=Ded. For example, there was nothing known as Nigeria from 1900 to 1960. False! Nigeria did not come into existence after independence. nigeria came in2 existence since almagamation in 1913. Lack of independence has nothing to do with existence.

During the indicated times in the article, the people of the protectorates were socio-politically identified through their ethnicity or provinces and rightfully so because there was no country named Nigeria. Of course, Zik was perfect in his choice of words in the phrase alluded by Femi. Did Femi expect Zik to say that God of Africa has created the Yoruba nation to lead the children of Africa from the bondage of ages ....'' in July 8, 1949?
to be honest, there was a country named Nigeria with constitution as far back as 1949. And what was the basis for ZIK saying the Igb o would lead. Zik was a nationalist not a tribalist. Are u saying Zik couldn't have said that the yoruba would lead simply because Zik was igbo? If that is your position then fani kayode is right that Zik was tribalist. I don't have to be igbo to say the igbo would lead if they have the attributes unless or otherwise I am a tribalist.

It is unfortunate Femi Fani-Kayode could not correctly spot the important dates in the history of Yoruba as it relates to the formation of ''Egbe Omo Oduduwa'' and the inauguration of Action Group as a political party in the protectorates later known as Nigeria talk less of deciphering who started tribal politics in the south.[/quote]I leave that for historians

Femi Fani-Kayode
Uche, I give you my word that the yoruba fear no-one, least of all the igbo. Find out what 3rd Marine Commando (a yoruba unit) did to the Biafrans during the war.

Femi Fani-Kayode
@Uche, we in the south west dont need the oil to develop. We never did and we never will. That is the difference between us and you. You can laugh as much as you like but that is the reality. Even after the igbo were killed in their hundreds of thousands by the northereners for their intransigence and their bloody and violent grab for power in Jan 1966 and after the rest of us tried to make them see good reason and accept the terms of Aburi they still said ''no'' and attacked the mid-west and yorubaland. Sadly for them they were worsted for it, driven back and defeated and ever since then they have been broken. Biafra died then and will only rise again when the yoruba and others allow it to. This is bitter but true. Live with it and learn the importance of appreciating truth in history and the generosity and compassion of your friends. Stop seeing other southerners and other Nigerians as your mortal enemies and stop blaming your collective igbo woes on everyone else but yourselves.

Femi Fani-Kayode
@Uche, Isaac Boro fought against the igbo during the civil war as did most of those from the mid-west and south south. Nzeogwu was not the real person behind the Jan 1966 coup. He was just it's acceptable face that they presented after it failed. The real people behind it were Ifejuana (Zik's cousin), Okafor and Anuforo. They were the inner circle and they were all pure igbo. Sanusi's comments have no place here and I have responded to him on many occassions both publically and privately. The discussion about the role of the fulani and his forefathers in Nigeria are not for today but for another day. We have discussed the north and it's excesses on this wall in the past on many occassions. We have even discussed the yoruba, the mistakes they made and their v complex history here manyt times. I have been accused of being anti-north and anti-yoruba on many occassions simply because I have spoken the truth which no-one in Nigeria wants to hear so ur attempting to label me anti-igbo too is neither here nor there and it does not move me. Today it is the igbo and the advent of southern tribalism that we are discussing on this wall and nothing else matters to me. Sanusi and his ilk can say what they want. It is what you say that is more interesting to me than Sanusi's words. And if you think that he is your friend or a friend of your people then I feel sorry for you. I have tremendous respect for your position and your contributions but I also feel that your inability to indulge in self-criticism of your own people sometimes weakens you and does not do justice to ur intellectual vigour. You are far brighter than that. And by the way I dont doubtr the fact that the igbo have done well in Nigeria. I just believe that had it not been for the civil war and for the longstretch of military rule that followed it both they and Nigeria would have done far better.

Dada Solomon
@ chief, thanking you for reminding me that i was born yesterday. However, the present volatile situation of our state of nation dos not call for this history at this present time rather to me i would say you are repeating the same thing pa Achebe did in his book except you are telling me that is a payback to him and the igbo nation, having said these i think the problem of tribalism is as same as racism in the world so far we are human the issue of class as seen in the capitalist world will continue to appear in any form or watever disquise cos is part of every human being as rightly describe by george orwell in Animal farm

Femi Fani-Kayode
THE GREAT DEBATE- WHO INTRODUCED TRIBALISM INTO THE POLITICS OF THE SOUTH, THE IGBO OR THE YORUBA?

''Igbo domination of Nigeria is only a matter of time''- Charles Onyeama, a prominent igbo lawyer and member of the Central Legislative Council, 1945. (Pg. 204 ''Ethnic Politics In Kenya and Nigeria'' by Godfrey Mwakikagile).

''It would appear that the God of Africa has created the Igbo nation to lead the children of Africa from the bondage of ages ....'' - Dr Azikiwe, President of the Pan-Igbo Federal Union. (The West African Pilot of July 8, 1949).

The first statement from Charles Onyeama, which was made in 1945, was the first overtly tribal and divisive comment that was made and recorded in the politics of southern Nigeria in our history. That is where and when tribalism in the south actually started. After that comment and as a direct reaction to it, the yoruba established the ''Egbe Omo Oduduwa'' to further and protect yoruba interests and after that came the formation of the Action Group in 1948.

The second statement from Zik, which was made in 1949 (and which clearly shows that the great Zik of Africa had forgotten that the NCNC was not an igbo party at the beginning and that it had in fact been established by an upper class and very well educated yoruba man by the name of Sir Herbert Macauly, one of the famous ''Black Victorians'' from the Lagos Colony, and who, at his death bed, was gracious enough to hand over the leadership of the party to him even though he was igbo) confirmed that tribalism was here to stay in the south and that ever since that time the igbo had an agenda to dominate others. This sentiment and this unfortunate igbocentric attitude is what cost Zik the Premiership of the Western Region in 1953 when the NCNC narrowly lost to the Action Group.

It is clear from this that if you want to know who started tribalism in southern politics and the politics of the southern protectorate of Nigeria it was not the yoruba or the southern minorities but the igbo. The excesses of the Igbo State Union and their treatment of the southern minorities and the yoruba from 1943 till 1967 was completely unacceptable. The rest of the south were prepared to accept the igbo as equals with open arms but they were not prepared to be politically dominated or conquered by them.

Worst still the first coup in the history of Nigeria, which was the Jan 15th 1966 coup d'etat led by Major Ifejuana and Major Kaduna Nzeogwu, was essentially an igbo coup and an igbo grab for power. I say this because 95 per cent of those that took part in it were igbo and 99 per cent of the political and military leaders that were brutally murdered during it's execution were non-igbo. It was this coup and it's sheer brutality that led to the even more brutal northern officers counter-coup of July 1966 (in which 300 igbo officers were killed in one night including the igbo Head of State, Gen. Aguiyi-Ironsi, and his yoruba host, the Military Governor of the Western Region, Gen. Adekunle Fajuyi who sought to protect him), the pogrom of igbos in the north (in which over 100,000 igbo civilians were killed in a few weeks) and the Nigerian civil war (in which 2 million Nigerians and Biafrans died).

These are the facts of our history. Live and learn. If you want to know who introduced tribalism into southern politics, it was the igbo. If you want to know who carried out the first coup in our country it was the igbo. Having done the painstaking research over a numberof years these are my findings and this is my conclusion.

I will open my wall for a robust discussion and debate on this issue and I will accomodate contributions from even those that are not my fb friends just for this debate. I will accomodate all shades of opinion and contributions from anyone that cares to join in the fray and I want to encourage those that disagree with my findings to state their case. We are all still learning but please take not that any rude or insulting comments will be deleted. This is a historical debate and I would encourage all those that seek to qoute anyone or make any assertions to mention their sources so that we can cross check the facts. Thanks.

Memphis357: Seems you guys ain't getting the picture here. Stop posting comments on her sh!t and ignore this attention seeking social media ho!!!!! Dang!!!!

u just did what you said we shouldn't do. U posted a comment and said we should ignore her so the cycle continues.

If only people can upload pictures of robbery scenes for you, you will rather sign petitions for better things. That killing will be brutal if you have never witnessed the brutal killings by robbers. Educate young men to live within their means.

U are right my brother. The people they killed are part of the trophy for peace and I pray that peace will elude you until you are also used as a sacrifice for peace. Then and only then can the peace be total.

MuhMubRaj: Good!the movie was a deliberate act to trigger d anger of d muslims. Has any muslim made a movie insulting another religion??damn no! We have respect for other peoples religion...if we the muslims don't get violent,such acts will continue. The innocent who die should see it as d price 4 peace...PEACE!!!

Niseamaka: SEEMS I`M ONE OF THE FEW NAIRALANDERS THAT IS VERY
SUPPORTIVE OF THE CONTROVERSIAL INTRODUCTION OF
5000 NAIRA NOTES.I JUST CAN`T WAIT TO PUT 500K IN EACH OF
THE BACK POCKETS OF MY JEAN TROUSER.A MILLION BUCKS IN DA POCKET.

and what will u buy with the million buck in your bucket? You don't get it? The million bulk in your bucket may not buy you more than a pair of shirt and probably shoes with serious inflation

Shut up! You ignorant fool. The man had been hovering between europe and america for medical check up and only recently returned to Ghana from a medical trip to USA. If not for emergency, he would have been flown back to europe so get ur facts right before u come to a public forum with ur ignorance

Are u for real?

So sudden...even TB joshua no see this ONE! May his soul rest in peace

I am using this a two edged sword...to thank God and to encourage my people. Though I am a professional, a medical doctor. After medical education, I decided to acquire a lot of skills medically even with a meagre pay and learn the rudiment of private hospital business.I started less than two yrs ago and today, we make more than a million per month with most of it profit. I was carried away though...after one year, I bought an expensive car to the tune of 4million and my landlord got jealous, gave me a quit notice but my tenancy won't expire in a year so I am negotiating for a property in the vicinity and my God will buy it for me. Mind you...I do only legal medical cases with thorougness, no abortion just my God. I started with a loan I took on my salary while working for anoda hospital two yrs ago and I stayed with them for one year after to complete the loan but I insisted on only night duty. I deceived my oga I wanted to write exams so he should put me only night. My story may look different cos I am a professional but if you know I am 32 and most of my mates are still begging fashola to top up their moni above 200K then u will know its not easy. Bottomline; courage and dare the odds!

Boy...I bought O7 xterra since january. I only seviced it once.hope I no go spoil am sha. Cos as I am talking, I no get mechanic or even rewire till now cos the car no give me problem at all. Maybe I should go and service and change the break pad sha.and if u see my road...menh! The car good sha at least up till now

ihebrooke: another view

what is the cost estimate for this project? Minimum land size?

We need highly experinced registered nurses preferably MALE but experienced females will be considered too. Call 08090718554. Hospital at baruwa, ipaja

Can u ask jeremiah where he got all his negative prophecies from? Xtians that don't read their bible. Ask amos where he got all the negative things God told him about isreal? It is logical that most prophecies are negative.they come as a warning so we can either pray against it or get prepared. Ask jonah what God told him about NinevehM ask isaiah wether God told him hezekiah would die. But they prayed and it was averted. Some are so stupid asking hinm to tell us precise date when it will happen. That will be a false prophecy cos it has no foundation in the bible. Anyway most people here actually knows the truth, they just choose to (biased

preshuzpearl: What i can't accept is the fact that he only prophesies negative things. God is not a God of deaths and calamities. His thoughts towards us are of peace to bring us to an expected end.

It's satan who always causes bad things to happen (looking into the life of job in d bible, for example). So am just wondering, where does he (t.b joshua) gets his revelations from since it definitely does not come from God?

I don't pity the poor masses with the senseless comments being posted here. So,the doctors are callous for demanding their right while fashola is an action governor for breaking a 3yr old agrreement. Let both the FG and LASG go ahead to import new doctors from abroad. If the masses are tired of the strike and they can't talk to their proud governor they should turn to the willing hands of oko oloyun and co.

Whaoh. Boko haram is becoming more sophisticated than you can imagine. So they want to start coordinating their attacks using BBM now. It will be so easy to upload videos of bombing now. If the SSS are up and doing, this thread should have been locked and the OP tracked and charged for trying to recruit suicide bombers

Can people stop blackmailing doctors with the so called hippocratic oath! So doctors are supposed to be charity workers while the society milk them dry? Patients prefer a doctor they can give one thousand naira tip after treatment while they ride in their own assorted range rovers. Tell me...what are they doing in shell that low cadre workers can afford luxury yet doctors are struggling to live. Why should the doctors consider the poor masses? The doctors are part of the poor masses so they should tell their elected officials who spent one billion on the birthday of a chicago trained(forged) politician. Doctors can't continue to be important only when lives are being lost. They must also be important when houses are being bought, when cars are being bought and if the society can't appreciate a doctor for saving lives they should not condemn when such lives are being lost. Risk allowance alone should be above a million naira per annum. If a doctor mistakenly contact HIV in d course of his work, he infects the wife and the children risk being orphaned without any govt support. You spend most nights working while the rich politicians are busy sleeping with your at home. We were in school when virtually all our mates were already using cars and getting married and now the society want doctors to consider them to the detriment of the doctors life and welfare. What a selfish society! Doctors...u better continue the strike till the govt knows you are very serious this time around

You mean you want to sell half plot at itele for 800k. Can't agree less. You are a joker

Why should I buy a plot of land at igbo ilogbo for 4.5 million? An average plot in that area is far less than one million. Do you mean 50million or 550million still?

Why are people here saying unprotected sex is not worth it all. Such a statement is not from matured minds. It is not only the unmarried that can use postinor. So because u are married you must be getting pregnant everytime you meet your husband hen? Every drug has its side effect. The most important information you need to know about postinor is that it is an EMERGENCY contraception. Meaning? Its not meant to be taken everyday. You were down with your husband with no condom and you are not ready for a baby then you can take postinor the following day. So, once you accept postinor as an emergency contraceptive the risk of cervical cancer is eliminated cos u need to take it daily for a very long time to expose yourself to the risk of cancer. So, postior is not and should not be used as a means of regular contraception. Go for the injectables, iucd, condomn and when you are occassionally unprotected and your husband can't hold himsef till condom is available, go for postinor. For more medical advice ping me
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What is the estimated cost for this bungalow with a penthouse. I am of adapting it to a hospital with the penthouse as the doctors quarters. What is the minimum land size? My e mail is damie2u@yahoo.co.uk

Wetin be score now?

@lagosshia. Ordinarily I don't respond to foolish threads like this and I can see that most knowledgeable xtians have rightly avoided the hatred you are spreading about. If you have any sense of shame you people should be organising crusades and telling your illiterate muslims all over the world to bring back sanity to your battered image worlwide. A religion known only by violence, terrorrism, hatred etc. So even xtianity is false, you think I will come and join a group of blood suckers and vampires and sexual peverts whose fastest route to heaven is suicide bombing? Let us assume that these people are celebrating easter by nailing themselves to cross, have you considered the stupid stoning of your man made devil in during your pilgrimage as not only laughable and barbaric but also depicts how unintelligent most muslims are? To say that you even have confidence to quote your quaran to defend something shows how shameless you are. If it were to be a sane world, they would have sued your dubious mohammed for infringing on the copyright of the bible by copying the bible in and out and then inser some chapters to accommodate his lust for women and blood. You say that book you called quaran came from God then I tell you that God must be a pirate and desrved to be jailed. Idiots.