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sweetrace:
What you described above is not a Christian. Christianity is not about repeating some words after a pastor. It is about a relationship with Christ. It is about walking and talking with Christ on a daily bases. Christ Jesus said to invite him in and he will dwell in us. The Bible talks about a demon sent out of a person. If it comes back and finds the place empty, it will bring back more demons even more wicked than it is. If Christ dwells there, how can a demon also dwell there? Do they share space?

Your are not quoting Jesus well. Jesus said, when a demon is cast out, he walks about in the desert, then he decide to return back to the vessel. When he comes back, he meets it clean and garnished, then he comes back and enter the person again with 7 worse and dirtier demons. Jesus never included the word "empty".
What is with all these misquoting of scriptures self?
This is Luke 11:24-26. To give us the idea behind this saying of Jesus, he said something in verse 28 " Blessed is he that hears my sayings and keep them". This is telling you that to keep the deliverance, you need to do the words of Jesus.

alBHAGDADI:
The Bible didn't say only 12 remained after those unbelievers left. Stop injecting your foolish words into the Bible. Jesus was only speaking to his inner caucus which are the 12. Or were the 72 always mentioned alongside the 12?

Stop arguing foolishly.

Read verse 67. Then Jesus said to the twelve, Do you also want to go away?

alBHAGDADI:
You are beginning to sound annoying with your unfounded claims.

Those people didn't leave because they stopped believing. Jesus said they believed not i.e they never believed in him just as Judas.

John 6:64
64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

Those people who left are different from the 72 disciples whom Jesus sent two by two to go preach in Luke 10. Or where did you see that they are the same people who left because they never believed?

Where did I say Judas was never a disciple? I only quoted verses which showed me never believed in Jesus. Same way a satanic person goes to church but doesn't believe Jesus and is opposing Jesus.

They never believed.. good. Not because they had demons. Fine.
The 72 was not among these? Hmmm. The Bible said only 12 was left. It will be trying to say the Bible was wrong to say 12...there were other 60 or 72 the Bible didn't count. Please I hope you take the Bible as not having errors?
Ok. So u accept that Judas was a disciple? Then you must also accept a disciple can have a Devil. Thanks

alBHAGDADI:
Look, Saran never entered Peter. It us not possible for Satan is demons to enter a believer, which is what the OP just proved. Now, let me prove it to you clearly.

Jesus had so many followers before his death, burial and resurrection. While preaching in John chapter 6, many of those followers/disciples left him because they found his words outrageous. They left simply because they didn't believe him. They were just following him just as Judas did. Read the passage below.


John 6:64-71 King James Version (KJV)
64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?
68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.
70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.


As seen above, the 12 disciples remained with Jesus while others left. Why did they remain? Read verse 68 & 69 which shows that they remained because they believed in Jesus. But Jesus knew one of them didn't believe in him, and that was Judas whom he said is a devil. Read verses 70 & 71.

Why was Satan able to resume in Judas? Because he didn't believe in Jesus. Satan could enter him and go out as he pleased. That's what happened on the night Judas sold Jesus for 30 pieces of silver - Satan entered him.

Luke 22:23
Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.

Satan can only enter an unbeliever. He can't enter a believer. All he can do is use his agents to influence believers wrongly.

Satan didn't enter Peter. Peter only said something in a sincere manner which unfortunately aligned with Satan's agenda. In order to let him know the statement t was satanic, Jesus had to rebuke the satanic message. Note: Jesus never casted Satan out of Peter. So how come you still believe Peter was possessed by Satan hismelf?

Bros, you are just quoting scriptures up and down out of context. They left because they did not believe, or because they stopped believing? Where did it say they had demons? Do you know they have cast demons out before? Their names were written in the book of life?
Jesus did not cast out the Devils from Peter. Really? What is get thee behind me?
Judas was never a disciple? How wrong are you? So if the Devil had succeeded in killing Peter you would have said he was not a disciple?

alBHAGDADI:
If Jesus had not looked at Peter buy looked at the direction Satan was standing while influencing him, Peter won't have known he said something inspired of Satan. But to you, because Jesus looked at Peter while rebuking Satan, it now means Satan was inside Peter.

Hmmm. So you expect me to buy this crap. Come back later with a better explanation. I am very sure you can do better.

Let me tell you what I believe.
1. Jesus have delivered all that believe in him
2. Jesus have healed all that believe in him
3. Jesus have blessed all that believe in him.

I believe all these three.
However, I don't see every one that believe experiencing these. There is a need for them to be ministered to all that believe. To ignore anyone that is sick, and not minister healing is not the best thing to do.
God help us all

alBHAGDADI:
So Peter was Satan?

No? Hmmm. I hope you even understand this topic in the first place. Peter was never Satan. He was being influenced.
Let me rephrase the question. To stop peter from being influenced, Satan was rebuked. Now the question. Who or where did Jesus look at to speak to Satan?

alBHAGDADI:
Submission is different from salvation. Stop mixing them up. Demons bow at the mention of the name of Jesus. This doesn't mean the person they possessed has experienced salvation.

Submission does not mean salvation. That is interesting. Anyway, I am not arguing for argument sake. I hope we will ponder on the thoughts we have raised in this discuss. Please keep preaching the gospel and hold on to your beliefs. My care is for all to make heaven. We are all brothers and sisters in the Lord

alBHAGDADI:
If a cultist whom you are friends with lures you into cultism, will you say he possessed you before he could do such?

Matthew 16:22-24 King James Version (KJV)
Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.


As seen above, Peter thought he meant well for Jesus because he didn't want Jesus to die. However, he didn't know the statement he made was against the assignment Jesus came to earth to do, which is to die for our sins. Satan also didnt want to see Jesus die for the sins of mankind. Therefore, Peter's words were in line with the agenda of Satan. That's why Jesus rebuked Peter by letting him know that he just uttered a satanic agenda.

Good point. Where did Jesus look to rebuke the Devil influence Peter? The space or Peter?

alBHAGDADI:
Are you really expecting me to start taking you about? Did I ever tell you that I cast out demons? Look, the Bible is our guide, and so we do things according to how it teaches. In Mark 5, Jesus first of can't out the demon from a man before anything else. But your foolish self expect him to be preaching to an insane ma. cutting himself with knives. You also foolishly expect Christians today to do the same.

Please child of God, cease from calling me or anyone else foolish.
Jesus said you should cast out demons. So I wonder how you will ever implement it.
To you, the mad man fell down and called Jesus Lord. Everyone one that Jesus ever delivered appeared to first submit and called him Lord. In fact, you cannot force deliverance on whoever will not submit and corporate with you. So salvation first seem to be true

Let me tell you what happens to this heavily possessed people that make them come to salvation.
1. They were going for operations and were defeated by a higher power, so they willingly submit to a higher power
2. They are tired of been evil so they come for help
3. Some have fulfill their earthly assignment and are about to be killed by devil
4. Some are sent to kill someone they love and do not wish to obey the command

For case 1, most defeats result in deliverance. In few cases, there may be only partial deliverance and they need prayers to be further free. In some cases, confessions will suffice.

For case 2, tiredness does not produce deliverance. They need to be delivered.

One thing is certain, they all needed to first submit to the Lordship of Jesus to be delivered

You need to be in this ministry to know this better

alBHAGDADI:
You can't get a demon possessed person saved. The person can't even hear you because the demon has taken control of his senses. That's why you see a demon possessed person often use sharp objects to cut themselves and even break heavy chains, something they would not normally do.

That is why Christians are to cast out the demon so that the person can regain his senses. That way, he or she will be able to hear the gospel and understand it. If he accepts the good news of Jesus, he will immediately receive the Holy Spirit. In so doing, no demon can ever possess him again. The one that left can't return again. But if he rejects Jesus as his saviour, that's when the demon that was cast out returns with seven more wicked demons than himself and they all possess the man.

Can you show any Christian you know today, that was cutting himself with knifes and was first delivered before he accepted Jesus? In fact, can you show me anyone you know that was first delivered before salvation?

alBHAGDADI:
The devil didn't enter Peter. He was only influenced by it. Influencing is different from possession. Funny you, you even said Satan entered Jesus. What nonsense junk.

Ok. Explain where the Devil stand to influence someone: inside or outside? Please provide evidence

Most of these Bible verses that you quoted, you explained them out of context. You are actually making the Bible to say more than what it says
You quoted Luke 8:26-36 as what it means to be possessed. This is very inconsistent. Jesus delivered several other people and no one else what shown to behaved this same way this mad man of Gadera did
You also said the Devil cannot coexist in the same place as the Holy Spirit. When Jesus was been tempted, was not the Devil speaking from His mind? When Peter spoke from the devil, 2 persons of the Trinity was around there namely the Son and the Spirit and the Devil could still enter Peter, are you not seeing something big here? In Job, when the sons of God came to give their reports, the Devil was among them. Think about these.
2cor 6:15-16 is also out of context. Was Paul taking about demons possession here? No. He was talking about Christians not mixing up with Church and Juju house. You cannot worship God and Juju at the same times. Try and be separate. Nothing about demon possession was mentioned here

It is easy to be swept away by this beautiful message.
But help me answer this question: If a Christian cannot be possessed by demons, then why the need for Jesus telling Christians to cast out devils? Is it so as to prepare them to be saved? If yes, then why don't skip the stress and only have the person accept Jesus Christ? And if no, why taking out the demons and opening the person up to be possessed by 7 times more demons?

The bible mentions the word Spirit, Soul and Body in 2 Thessalonians 5:23.
This verse shows clearly that there are three components to a man.
Differentiating should be our pursuit and not dismissing it

God bless u

May God never make me a member in Jesus name. Amen

filleSouriante:
The same way she sees no big deal in wasting the eggs is the same way she will see no big deal in smashing the TV screen, Car wind screen n other valuables over little disagreement. Ladies like that are the proverbial lepers that cant make cheese but can throw it away. Men in support of her action be careful, it's a gradual process, a well cultured, mannered and decent lady will not do that. Ladies in support of her action, #wehdone ma's we know ur type; Alakadas (wannabes). For me it's a no no. I cant even eat more than one egg in a day, 4 eggs is way too much, that's no longer protein, thats excess fats. Moderation is the key abeg

Nice one. God bless your mama.

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Sit up guys. No time.

What's ur experience?

Well this is a sad story. I feel for her because she is working very hard in prayer to stop it from continuing. if you can, please stick around for a little longer. show her some love and promise to protect her secret. She may belong to some secret thing or she is just being under attack. either ways, her prayerfulness shows she wants out. May God deliver her.

Advice - not all prayer warriors are really high or growing. they may be down under captivity and are praying for freedom.

I see that our tomorrow may not be better than our yesterday. Look at people are showing how empty their skulls are! Ngozi is by farrrrrrr a better minister of finance to Kemi. Kemi has not idea how to fix the economy of Nigeria. Ngozi got Nigeria Economy to be the first in Africa. Kemi got us to recession. How much is your data now compare to then? Yeye dey smell.

I also notice that it is the same people that has been making comments over and over again. Guys, get a life. Shit.

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Why was not this letter written in Arabic? Why is he not addressing Nigeria in Arabic? When you speak English in Nigeria, you are speaking to all Nigerians. When you speak Arabic, you know who you are addressing.

Finally, What is the Language of Christianity? English? mumu dey for this world o.

QueenSuccubus:



U play it cool like u wanna juz hit it & quit it...MUMU!


Some men eeehnn...their brain is on their dick..

My dear, I don't know your age or experience level in relationship. If you date someone and you find out later that he has 10 kids and 5marriages will you continue? God and Devil have read this your post. I hope they will not arrange the same situation for you to see what you will do.
As for me, I approve of what that guy is doing. I am not perfect, but I still have a price.

Marriage is bigger than the wedding. Dude is still a small boy

Who is a mature lady?

About Rich Guys Dumping Broke Ladies, It Depends on The Type of guys. Non Educated Rich guys will marry a broke ass poor girl so long as she has a B.sc.

There are cheaper ways to have a wedding nowadays.

Court only
Court + Traditional only
Court + white only

White + traditional same day. Use church venue for reception.

Serve basic food and drinks.

See, your guest really don't care about all of these funfares. They are just so so happy for the two of you.
And they wanna go home and rest.

yomifowe:
Trance is one of the synonym of dream as have been clarified by google search.

Stop This Synonym nonsense. There is a big difference between a dream and a trance. I am beginning to think Christ Embassy members don't experience trances. Yes trance is exactly like a dream; it is in between vision and dream. In vision you are fully awake suddenly a picture or video will just play out in front of you. Is flashes in a second, but when you are narrative the events and activities, it may take minutes. For trances, there is first an overwhelming influence of sleeping that overtake you; just when you are about to fall into sleep, u will see a video (as aforementioned). Dreams,,,,,, we all know that.
So yes it is synonymous, but no it is not the same thing. Build your faith on something surer and firmer.

Anybody can make any analysis of the scripture and come up with his or her own conclusion. Eating in dream in itself is not the issue that determines whether it is good or not; it is other things that determines it.
If you are hungry before you sleep, your soul will still be looking for food for you. That is common sense. But when you are in a coven of witches and you eat food there and come up with some junky interpretation, then you can as well consider dreams to be nothing.....just cream it.
God told you you in your dream to repent of your sin of robbery because you will soon get killed in your next mission and you cream it.
You are shown vision of an accident in your journey and you cream it.
Just be careful of some theorists that cream their dreams and still their testimonies are full of down down stories. God must have forewarned them, but they chose to cream it away. Even when the spirit is telling you to take it up in prayers, you will still continue.