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Politics / Re: Complete List Of Lagos State House Of Assembly Members by honeyB2018: 11:43pm On Jun 10, 2023
mcquin:

The long post is not necessary. Until you move Lagos out of the South West to anywhere else, it remains the collective heritage of the yorubas.

You've referenced Nigerians going abroad and getting into politics, do these Nigerians go to the UK and desecrate their monarch? How many Nigerians have gone to the UK to call it a no man's land," disrespecting the aboriginals?

If you feel you have contributed to Lagos, they have now asked you to take your contributions elsewhere. Go develop your land.
By the way Nigerians are in Abia, Anambra, South-South especially where you have a mix of many different tribes, nobody disrespects the indigenes. Who born you to talk down the Oba of Benin?

Lastly, whether an Osun man is made a governor in Lagos or an Ekiti man, so long the yorubas allow it, who am I to complain?

Wether the post was long or not, I did it to highlight some critical point you missed.
Nobody in Lagos State, can ask anybody to go to anywhere, as long as there's an entity called Nigeria.
Lagos State, is a collective development, not the development of the Yoruba land. I have told you before, the critical infrastructures that were done in Lagos State, with all the money from all parts of Nigeria, you want other Nigerians to leave it and go to where? It's never and can never be done
The Nigeria constitution gave all, not only the Yorubas the right to contest election anywhere, vote and be voted for. It's just that parochialism and sentiments, will not allow the indigenes to see beyond their nose, otherwise what right has any one from Ekiti to be governor in Lagos State, that any Nigeria from another region don't have?
You lack the power to send anyone out of his chosen place of residence
Which Igboman, said Lagos is no man's land, yet the buy land and are given receipts?
It's just giving a dog a bad name.
This shenanigan you Yorubas are doing, will surely backfire on you shortly.
Mark my words. You think you are smart enough? An end is coming and it will be quite disappointing.
Politics / Re: Behold The Young Man That Own First Indigenous Steel Plant In South-east(photos) by honeyB2018: 5:08pm On Jun 10, 2023
Penguin2:
This is why I want Lagos to implement their anti-Igbo policy in the name of making laws to protect the indigenes.

So that Igbos will go back home and start investing at home.

Athens fell
Alexandria fell
Timbuktu fell
Warri fell

These were cities bubbling of life before indigenes started moving mad. And when the cities became uninhabitable for non-indigenes, they left, and the cities died.

Lagos will die and they will see it.


I don't wish Lagos State bad, but I have warned both Lagos and all political leaders in the South West. The amount of investment not withstanding, you don't threaten investors in your land.
Go to PH, look at Trans- Amadi Industrial Estate, go to Warri, see their sea port, go to NPA quarters, it has all been a shadow of itself.
It all began when investors and non- Indigenes were threatened. Lagos State be wise. Your economy in the next 10-15, will not be pleasant at all.
Politics / Re: Complete List Of Lagos State House Of Assembly Members by honeyB2018: 4:13pm On Jun 10, 2023
mcquin:


My brother, the point is we must stop the hypocrisy. Don't dish out what you can't take. How many states are as liberal has Lagos? Why must other states promulgate laws that favor first their indigenes and Lagos is prevented from doing same? Can an Imo State indigene work in Abia state civil service?

Is it not Lagos' liberal stance that has earned it the slur "no man's land?" Can an Hausa man go to Aba and say it is a no man's land?

Let's stop the hypocrisy abeg. Other states have been doing theirs no be today. I already mentioned Edo indigenes pay lesser amount in Ekpoma than non-indigenes.
mcquin:


My brother, the point is we must stop the hypocrisy. Don't dish out what you can't take. How many states are as liberal has Lagos? Why must other states promulgate laws that favor first their indigenes and Lagos is prevented from doing same? Can an Imo State indigene work in Abia state civil service?

Is it not Lagos' liberal stance that has earned it the slur "no man's land?" Can an Hausa man go to Aba and say it is a no man's land?

Let's stop the hypocrisy abeg. Other states have been doing theirs no be today. I already mentioned Edo indigenes pay lesser amount in Ekpoma than non-indigenes.
[quoted author=mcquin post=123666041]

My brother, the point is we must stop the hypocrisy. Don't dish out what you can't take. How many states are as liberal has Lagos? Why must other states promulgate laws that favor first their indigenes and Lagos is prevented from doing same? Can an Imo State indigene work in Abia state civil service?

Is it not Lagos' liberal stance that has earned it the slur "no man's land?" Can an Hausa man go to Aba and say it is a no man's land?

Let's stop the hypocrisy abeg. Other states have been doing theirs no be today. I already mentioned Edo indigenes pay lesser amount in Ekpoma than non-indigenes.[/quote]


I don't want to be hard on you. People like you sometimes, mislead others thinking they are making a reasonable point. You cannot compare Lagos State, with any other state in Nigeria. This is because it's a state being run by non- Indigenes. The population of Lagos State, is made up of 90% non- Indigenes and 10% indigenes.
We're not talking about Yoruba land here. The civil service of Lagos State, is dorminated by non- Indigenes. If you don't have ancestral home in Lagos State, you are a non- Indigene.The economy of Lagos State, is been developed and run by non- Indigenes, so their politics.
Let me enlighten you bit.
Awolowo from Ogun State played his polictics here.
MKO from Ogun State played his polictics here.
Aregbeshola, Yayi, James Faleke, Obafemi Hamzat, ditto people from other tribes.
The IGBOS have been in Lagos politics and economy and development before independence.
Lagos State, is mini Nigeria, it was our former federal capital, developed with our common resources. The ports (land and sea) were all built and developed with our common resources. Critical infrastructures in Lagos State, after the war were done with our common resources. So how can you compare Lagos State with others? When I mean non- Indigenes, I'm not talking about the IGBOS alone,I mean all Nigerians.
The development of Lagos State, was and still not the development and contributions of the people of South West alone. The problem is that the other states in the South West, don't want to acknowledge the contributions of others especially the IGBOS in the development of the State. Or else what right has anyone who's not a Lagosian, by ancestral heritage in Lagos State from any part of South West, that another Nigeria from other parts of Nigeria don't have?
You don't reap where you never sowed. It's not about Yoruba, but it's about Lagos State. If any Nigeria of South West extraction should invest in the Igboland,the way the IGBOS have invested in their land, why not, they can as well be part and parcel of the good, development and politics of Igboland, no one will stop them
There are Americans and Britons of Yoruba extraction, who have contested and won elections in those countries. I don't think, those people sat down in Ogbomosho, Ilawe, Ikare , Badagry are won the elections because they were Yorubas. They participated in the politics, economy social life and development of those places.
How many companies own by a Yoruba do you find in the South East?. Rano Oil, Indimi Oil, BUA cement companies from the North are in operation in the South East, tell me one company a Yoruba owns that you find there and you are asking wether a Yoruba can be found in the civil service of any state in the South East.
How many people of South East extraction can you find in the civil service of Ogun, Oyo, Ekiti or Ondo States? If Lagos State' s development, wasn't our (Nigerians) collective contributions, why didn't the likes of Awolowo, M K O etc stay in their state and develop it, rather the came to Lagos State
Just of recent, former Vie- President, Prof. Yemi Osinbajo, who came from Ogun State to Lagos State,to study, play his politics, relocated his pulling both, from Lagos State to his own State and town in Ogun State. Why didn't he stay in his state for whatever he wanted politically?
The Igboman, is like the target of all Yoruba tribal attacks and all Nigerians are keeping quiet, they forgot that an injury to one is an injury to all. In 2003, under Tinubu as the governor of Lagos State, the Yorubas attacked the Hausas and Fulanis, what were the offences of those innocent Hausa/Fulanis that were massacred then? Did they campaign or entangled themselves with the politics of their host nation then? Did they say Lagos was a no man's Land, was there any boundary dispute? Did the but lands and never pay for it? These are questions we need to ask and find out.
African China made a song with it, Nigerians laughed over it. This happened in this same Lagos State, in 2023, 20yrs after, the turn of the IGBOS came, tomorrow, it will still be this same Yorubas against another tribe and we all will stigmatize the affected group, till it will get to every tribe, then we know, wether Lagos State, is for the Yorubas as alone after developing it with our collective resources. On the payment of school fees, go to LASU and find out. There are fees non- Indigenes pay that indigenes don't pay. I stand to be corrected.
I rest my case with you.
Politics / Re: Complete List Of Lagos State House Of Assembly Members by honeyB2018: 5:11pm On Jun 08, 2023
mcquin:
I am from Cross River, living in Edo State and never supported APC, my previous posts are enough proof, but you see the issue of SETTING IN MOTION LAWS THAT RECOGNIZES YORUBAS IN LAGOS AHEAD OF OTHERS, I SUPPORT IT."

Agreed, the Lagos government cannot proscribe the movement of non-indigenes to Lagos, it can put in place laws to favor first it's people as other states do. You can't keep cheating the yorubas because of their liberal disposition. What the hell is "No Man's Land." In Edo, indigenes pay far less than non-indigenes as students of it's University, Ekpoma. In Abia, a man from Imo can't work in their civil service unless he alters his place of origin. Nobody therefore has the moral justification to call out the Lagos Assembly as we all are guilty of same tribalism.

With regard oil within the Niger-Delta and the call for relocation of oil coy's HQ, we made the region uncomfortable for experts, kidnapping them and so on. It is left to the private owners to decide where they want their companies situate. Even in real estate development, we use "Youth Chairman and Deve.." money spoil things. Abegi!


You are entitled to your opinion my brother, but understand, that the constitution of Nigeria guarantees every Nigerian the right to live anywhere of their choice peacefully vote and be voted for.
You should know that it's not only the IGBOS that lives in Lagos State, who are the majorly target of this so called proposed law. When it's passed into law and signed. Don't forget, Yorubas are in other places aside their own.
My major concern here's that most members, who wants to promogate this law are not Lagosians.
Obasa himself is from Ogun State, Hamzat Obafemi iis a prince in Ogun State. Most of the head of ministries and departments in Lagos State are non- Indigenes.
Let the law come, then other states Wil also emulate them, let's see where it will take all of us.
Politics / Re: Jaja Anucha Nwachukwu Called Lagos 'no Man's Land' In 1947. by honeyB2018: 4:57pm On Jun 08, 2023
akanke79:
In Nigeria, this phrase was first used in 1947 to describe Lagos by the First Speaker of the House of Representatives and later Minister for Foreign Affairs, Jaja Anucha Nwachukwu. He used this term not because he believed that nobody owns Lagos but because he believed since Lagos was then the Federal Capital Territory, it belongs to all Nigerians. The question is “Which Lagos was Nwachukwu talking about”? Which Lagos was the Federal Capital of Nigeria? Most youths of today are generally disinterested in the history of Nigeria, hence, the profound ignorance about the country and its constituents.

For avoidance of doubt, Lagos State was never the capital of Nigeria. The capital city of the country until the year 1976 when the Justice Akinola Aguda recommended the movement to Abuja was the space between Fadeyi and Victoria Island in Lagos. Any other space from Fadeyi to Asaba to Ondo State to Oyo to Ogbomosho were listed under the Western Region whose Premier was Chief Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo. For example, Mushin is not Lagos, Palm-grove is not Lagos, Ikeja is not Lagos, Oshodi is not Lagos and so on. This was the situation until the Mid-Western Region was created from the Benin and Delta provinces in 1963. It is the Mid-West that has become Edo and Delta States today.

The Federal Capital Territory which Jaja Nwachukwu referred to as “No Man’s Land” has clear and unambiguous ownership. It is important to mention that Lagos Island belong to the Aromire family and this is undisputable and not Benin. Apapa belongs to the Oluwa family, Lagos Mainland belongs to the Oloto family, Tomaro to Onisiwo, Victoria Island belongs to the Oniru family, Ikate is the land of the Elegushi family, the whole of Ijora including Ajegunle belongs to the Ojora family and so on. These are lands that are well documented and anyone who cares to know the fact should search the archives in Nigeria and London in search of the truth.

The uninformed and flippant individuals who label Lagos as a “no man’s land” should know that the ownership of Lagos was settled on 11 July 1921 when the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council in London which is the final Court of Appeal of the British Empire ruled that Lagos lands belong to the Idejo chiefs who are the children of Olofin. Chief Amodu Tijani Oluwa, the Oluwa of Lagos who was the plaintiff in the case took the British Government to Court for stealing his land in the process he won a huge compensation of twenty-two thousand, five-hundred-pound sterling and thirty-nine pence.


Moreover, it is important to mention that it is only one of the five divisions of Lagos State that served as the capital of Nigeria. There is still Ikorodu (Oko Odu) (farm of blackberry) which is an area that includes the entire stretch of the riverine area of Ketu, Owode-Onirin, Itowolo, up to Imota; Badagry (Agbadayigi or simply Agbada) which if from Mile Two to Badagry Town; Ikeja which covers the whole of Bariga, Somolu, Kosofe, Isolo, Mushin, Oshodi, Egbe, Ikotun, Onigbongbo, Ojokoro Ipaja, Ayobo, Ojodu, Orile Agege, Idimu and their neighbourhood; Epe (the forest of black ants) which is from Ibeju to the whole of Epe and its suburbs (Epe shares boundary with Ijebu-Ode). These divisions called ibile were created by Edict number 3 of May 1968.

Lagos as a place has existed long before the country called Nigeria and it is one of the oldest cities in Nigeria. For clear explanation, the Portuguese explorer who gave the name Lagos (Lago de Curamo meaning the Lake of Kuramo) came to the land for the first time in 1472 where he met Olofin and his children (that was 551 years ago) which makes Lagos older than virtually all modern cities in Nigeria.

Let us take a look at the year of existence of some cities. Onitsha (Onicha -mmili ) meaning is a city founded by Benin adventures in the year 1550 (473 year old. Founded almost a century after Lagos had been in existence), Enugu (Enu-Ugwu or Hill Top) was established by the Enugwu-Ngwo and Nike people around 1690). Umuhaia (the Market Place) was established by the British in the early 20th century.

Awka (Place of the blacksmiths) is one of the oldest cities in Igboland and the center of Nri civilization. Sokoto (Seat of the caliphates) was established by Uthman Dan Fodio who used the title Sarkin Musulumi) in 1804. When he died in 1817 his son Mohammed Bello was the first Sultan of Sokoto who ruled the Eastern part of Sokoto while his brother Abdullahi ruled the Western part of it. Kano (Masculinity or Capability) was probably the oldest city in Nigeria as it was established around 999 by the Hausa Bakwai people.

Kaduna (the crocodile city) was founded by Lord Fredrick Lugard in 1900 which is almost 428 years after Lagos has been existing. Abeokuta (city beneath the rock) was founded in 1830 by Sodeke who was the leader of the Egba refugees who escaped from Oyo during the period. Ibadan (near the field) was a war camp created by a group of Oyo warriors in 1829.

We have taken samples of these cities to show that Lagos is older than most cities in Nigeria and therefore it would be childish, naïve and outrightly innocent for anyone to suddenly brand a city that has existed for centuries and adorned with a rich history, an enviable culture and norms with robust traditional administration and a center of Yoruba civilization as a “no man’s land” when the entire civilization of those who are making claim for Lagos was not at all in existence when Lagos was established.

Prof Ojikutu is of the Faculty of Management Sciences, University of Lagos.

https://guardian.ng/opinion/which-lagos-is-a-no-mans-land/



This is not true. I have read this topic before and believed every part of it, until I read another one, where Alhaji Lateef Jankande was credited with that statement.
You need to correct this please.
Politics / Re: Lagos Belongs To Yorubas; Lawmakers Will Pass New Property, Business Ownership L by honeyB2018: 4:50pm On Jun 08, 2023
Ukpaka:
Lagos belongs to Yorubas; lawmakers will pass new property, business ownership laws favouring only indigenes: Speaker Obasa
https://247ureports.com/2023/06/lagos-belongs-to-yorubas-lawmakers-will-pass-new-property-business-ownership-laws-favouring-only-indigenes-speaker-obasa/
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There are plans underway by the Lagos State House of Assembly to make promulgation that will potentially undermine land and property ownership by non-indigenes, especially Igbos in the state, following a declaration by its speaker Mudashiru Obasa to “reverse all the reversible.”

Enterprising and industrious, the Igbos, originally from South-East Nigeria, were targets of several vicious verbal and physical attacks by Yoruba politicians and their acolytes. In the last presidential and governorship elections, many Igbos had thrown their weight behind the Labour Party and its poster boy and presidential candidate, Peter Obi. They were blamed for APC and then-candidate Bola Tinubu’s loss in Lagos on February 25.

“Lagos is a Yoruba land as against the assertions of some people that it is a no man’s land,” Mr Obasa declared. “Therefore, part of our legislative agenda is to ensure the translation of laws passed by this House to the Yoruba language.”

This is targeted at the IGBOS and their businesses. But not to worry, whatever is the law, we shall overcome it.
No one person, have the monopoly of anything. In 2012, this same ApC members, championed the opposition that rose against fuel subsidy removal. 12 yrs down the line, the chicken has come home to roast. 20 yrs from today, those that are rejoicing over this, will bite the dust. Trust me
Politics / Re: Every Nation Is Entitled To Have Laws To Protect Indigenous Peoples - Omokri by honeyB2018: 4:43pm On Jun 08, 2023

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Politics / Re: No Man's Land And The Shamelessness Of Some Yoruba People by honeyB2018: 7:02am On Jun 08, 2023
Raskimonojendor:

Eyha. We don't do OSU and catholic vs Anglican or Christian vs Muslim or Ebonyi ibo vs Anambra ibo in the SW. We in the SW are one.

See picture of an Osun State man and Awori royal fathers below grin


I will respect your views, the day I hear or see a Lagosian elected a governor in any of the Yoruba state aside Lagos. The day a Lagosian will be elected a senator in any of the South West state. You can have similarities, but the fact remains that Lagos State is the only state in Nigeria, where the non- Indigenes are more than the Indigenes. Go and verify. Other Yorubas are just imposters in the affairs of Lagos. But quite unfortunate the real indigenous people of Lagos State have been overwhelmed even in their own land.
They have become second class citizens in their land. So shameful
Politics / Re: Southeast Voting Pattern Since 1999 (picture) by honeyB2018: 11:35pm On Jun 07, 2023
benuejosh:
Brother Bernard… (anticipating a fall)

While Brother Bernad falls down which is a comic relief, permit me to say that Igbos know next to nothing about politics. They play politics with sentiments and emotions, they play politics with hatred and envy, they’re not united and that’s why they’re never at the front burner of National politics in this country. The government at the top involve them in politics at the National level and give them appointments simply because they’re Nigerians and there’s need to carry them along. Which is good.

A typical Igbo man will put money in front first before considering anything else. Imagine the igbo people kidnapping a sitting governor inside his office. They sit at their comfort zone and want everything handed over to them. It is not done like that. For how long did Tinubu start his plans to become the president? It took him years. More than 20years. That’s how it works.

I feel there’s need for my Igbo brothers and sisters to start Planning now. Because after Tinubu comes down as president after 8years, the south east guys will take over. But if they fail in their attempt to come together, then they will fail again and the position will return back to the North.

I completely disagree with you and your views about the IGBOS and their politics.
IGBOS in Nigeria,play their politics according to the way other tribes play their politics also.
You have not been able to carefully analyze state of the IGBOS, to know why it's like they are not getting it right.
In Nigeria politics, the only position they have not gotten is that of the president, others, they have.
Other regions have more states than the IGBOS. Noth West have Seven States with more local governments, South West, have Six, same with South- South and North Central. Only South East has 5 state s, can you compare 5states to 6or 7 states?
Do you know the implications of that 1-2 states difference?
By that 1-2 states difference, you are denied the position of 3-6 senators, 14-21 house of Reps members, revenue allocations, federal presence etc. Realize that politics is a game of numbers.
If with our limitations, we have been able to reach all political positions but one, how can you accuse the IGBOS of playing wrong politics?
We're like disadvantaged now because a new Party took over the reigns of politics, this is natural. When PDP, were in power were was Tinubu and the West? Opposition.
Another sheriff , political party may come tomorrow that will look towards the position of the IGBOS. This life and politics.
Power is TRANSIENT.
Politics / Re: No Man's Land And The Shamelessness Of Some Yoruba People by honeyB2018: 11:00pm On Jun 07, 2023
BentizilL:

Are those you mentioned Yoruba?? If so, they've the right to be anything and claim anything in Lagos...

All Yoruba enjoy equal right anywhere in Yorubaland...
You've no business with them not being from Lagos as long as they're Yoruba and not migrant like Igbo.. kiss


Can anyone of them from Lagos State, go to any other states in Yoruba land and contest election and win, like they do in Lagos State?
Honestly, I don't blame other Yorubas, that are messing up the indigenous people of Lagos State. I blame the real indigenes for not standing up for their rights. Imagine someone from Ogun State, ruling you as governor and deputy, even speaker.
Look at the one who wanted to be speaker, see how he was subdued. This is shameful.

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Politics / Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by honeyB2018: 10:19pm On Jun 07, 2023
EcoBrick:


https://dailytrust.com/no-mans-land-lagos-to-make-laws-to-protect-indigenes/

It's a welcome development. Let it come.
I know the people this coming law will be targeted at. It's the IGBOS, but nothing to worry, we shall at last overcome.
But my concern in all of these is that non- Indigenes will be making laws for indigenous people of Lagos State. This is quite absurd. Mudasiru Obasa is from Ogun State, Sanwo-Olu, Hamzat and lots of them in power today are from states outside Lagos and you want to make laws for indigenes, what an aberration?
For those who will be drafting the laws and reversing the reversibles, know that any law made by any state assembly, in Nigeria that runs contrary to the constitution of Nigeria is already null and void.
We look forward, to seeing them. Good luck.
Politics / Re: LAGOS GUBER & PLIGHT OF IGBO: Law Of Reciprocity Is The Solution by honeyB2018: 8:54pm On Jun 07, 2023
FreeStuffsNG:
LAGOS GUBER & PLIGHT OF IGBOS: Law Of Reciprocity Is The Solution

Background

For weeks leading to the elections till now, I notice a profound tension and apprehension from the majority section of Igbo who do not respect and appreciate the warm reception they enjoy in Lagos. Please note that a minority of Igbo in Lagos are not part of the unappreciative tendencies fuelling the hostility the Yoruba now have against the Igbo in Lagos.

Since 1999, Lagos state government from under Asiwaju Bola Tinubu (1999-2007) till date has been giving free education , free health and employment to our Igbo visitors in Lagos like the Yoruba natives since we are all Nigerians.

This is no longer sustainable without reciprocity before it is too late as real danger looms.

The issue will be fixed now. If Asiwaju Tinubu is blamed for creating the root cause of this socio-political problem then he should be part of those to fix it. Fix it as soon as possible before a 'native warrior' character in the mould of then young Gani Adams, who was barely able to communicate in English, rise up among the Yoruba youths and do it violently like we experienced in the 90s that forced Igbo to flee Lagos in fear and the Idi Araba Hausa/OPC wars . That will be bloody option hanging like sword of Damocles over our heads. Hence, I want us to use reciprocity to solve the problem.

I recall that some Lagos indigenes and notable Yoruba leaders including late Dr Fredrick Fasheun, founder of Odua Peoples Congress, OPC, protested then that the Yoruba who mostly suffered from the pre-1999 broken down Lagos ruined by bomb blasts, filth etc under poor management of successive military governments were not being prioritized in terms of rewards, economic opportunities and welfare needs but these leaders eventually yielded to Asiwaju's pleas that the benefits will go round and the Yoruba natives should exercise patience.
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Today some of those who opposed the all- comers approach of Asiwaju Tinubu leading a subnational government believe that he was the one who shrank the chances for the natives. They blame Asiwaju for giving 'too much' of Lagos oppprtunities to the Igbo and giving less part of the opportunities to them who suffered most. They are angry today that Asiwaju Tinubu sacrificed their yearnings and future for his future presidential ambition. Some of those disappointed Yoruba are tendencies behind clamour for Yoruba nation. They no longer trust Tinubu and Nigeria.

Curiously, most of the Igbo who directly benefited from the free provisions made by Asiwaju Tinubu-led government and still benefitting from these policies sustained by subsequent Lagos governments turned out to be unappreciative and hate Asiwaju most.

They hate Asiwaju Tinubu. They hate his wife. They hate his children and they hate everything about him.

The kind of hate is unprecedented to the point the tension today is the fall out of it.

All the good gestures and liberal policies initiated by Asiwaju Tinubu have been retained by successful governors but are still not appreciated by majority of Igbo in Lagos who have daily influx into Lagos because they have heard of opportunities in Lagos. The competition is now getting more intense and the Lagos state government appear to be pretending that the problem is not real.

Every four years, these Igbo residents in Lagos deliberately gather to promote the politics of lies, hate and bigotry against the dorminant political interest of their Yoruba host. The 2023 the candidate they are backing lost again calls for a foresight on how to stop these deep hate for the Yoruba politics the Igbo in Lagos play.

What solution do I propose?

Law Of Reciprocity

Law Of Reciprocity Is The Solution.

Let me explain.

Reading comments here and on social media, my conclusion is that anyone who attacks, insults , curses the Yoruba and notable Yoruba leaders is the one these majority of Igbo love.

From Rufai Oseni, former radio broadcaster and now Tv host on Arise Tv, is a Television station with a huge Igbo viewership , now to Chinedu Rhodes-Vivor, LP Gubernatorial candidate, who for years openly supported the proscribed IPOB group (linked to the coordinated arson in Lagos in 2020) and reportedly use derogatory words to insult and mock Yoruba and notable Yoruba leaders including Pastor Enoch.A. Adeboye, General Overseer, RCCG worldwide


Other Igbo folks online and offline are openly boasting that their main reason for suppporting LP is because Mr Chinedu Rhodes-Vivor, is one of them , raised to speak Igbo fluently like them and has an Igbo political godfather, Mr Peter Obi, former Anambra state Governor.

The Yoruba are livid and feel completely disrespected. A notable Yoruba leader, Ayo Fayose, former Governer of Ekiti state; described it as insensitive to the Yoruba for a party to present a candidate who can not speak Yoruba to govern a Yoruba state.

What he did not say openly is that the choice of a Chinedu Rhodes-Vivor who can not speak Yoruba is deliberate political mischief. Chinedu Rhodes-Vivor was selected by Igbo who do not speak or understand Yoruba as reward to him for being anti Yoruba and proscribed IPOB of Igbo extraction many believed worked for Mr Obi in the election votes from Igboland were allegedly rigged massively.

Igbo Insensitivity and Arrogance In Lagos.

The insensitive Igbo who derisively regard Lagos as a no man's land can not arrogantly claim to be the host of the Yoruba in their own land and enjoy the benefit of an entitled visitor in Lagos without the Yoruba having a single reciprocity from.the states of origin of these Igbo who mock and insult daily. It is a recipe for serious resentment of Igbo and anarchy by the Yoruba Lagos.

It is fair to adopt reciprocity as a Lagos state and Southwest policy so that all these bigotry and hatred these Igbo show for the Yoruba will reduce if not stop.

I have listened to a few vexed Yoruba and I heard why some stayed away from voting for Asiwaju is because they are angry with him, they believed he traded off the reciprocity in order to advance his personal political interest so they are demanding that if LASG give certain privileges to Igbo in Lagos there should be commensurate privilege given to Yoruba in Igboland too. Until this is done, the Yoruba will not stop feeling cheated and the bigotry and hatred caused by lack of gratitude on the part of some Igbo will not stop.

The Yoruba can be a Commissioner in Igboland too. A Femi should be able to move around to campaign to be Abia state governor like Mr Chinedu in Lagos too and you do not need to kill a fellow Igbo for celebrating the victory of a non-Igbo in Igboland.

Nobody does that to Igbo in Yorubaland. So reciprocity is a fair and just demand.

For 8 years, Mr El Rufai, Governor of Kaduna state kept Yoruba in his cabinet and extended free govt services to non Hausa. Such a state and its indigenes resident in Lagos are qualified for reciprocity in Lagos while states that are hostile to Yoruba and in fact, states without appointment for Yoruba should not recieve political appointments in Lagos .

States with indigenes in Lagos that do not hire and provide free heathcare and free education to Yoruba in their states too should not qualify for benefits of reciprocity. This should extend into streets naming, award of contracts, allocation of shops and hackney permits. These are finite oppprtunities and you must first give it the natives and whatever is left should meet the condition that the Igbo state give same opportunity to Yoruba in Igboland before we give it to Igbo in Yorubaland.

Only in Igbo states do we not have other tribes in their states exco,ministries etc. It is not a balanced relationship and I see reason in the complaint of the Yoruba who feel cheated.

Since democracy returned in 1999, Lagos has given a lot yet not even a single state in Igboland has ever appointed a Yoruba into their exco. It has to stop and reciprocity will stop it. Even property acquisition, especially a finite resource like land, should henceforth be scrutinized and rationed to demand reciprocity from the states of origin of the Igbo resident applicant and justice served.

Benefits

The benefits are too numerous and sustainable.

Jobs will be more abundant to the Yoruba natives at home and away from home.

This reciprocity policy will help provide jobs and social benefits to all Yoruba in other states especially if this policy of reciprocity is adopted by all the southwest states.

It will equally help draw mostly talents and less of lazy or criminal elements to the Southwest from the South East which in turn will help improve the economy of Yoruba states and Yoruba living outside SW, especially in Igboland.

The Yoruba need the jobs here at home too and those resident in Igboland should benefit from jobs in Igboland so that the same privileges the Igbo benefit here in Yorubaland their govts are giving with reciprocity to the Yoruba.

Our economy in SW will grow in leaps and bounds with the policy reciprocity.

The State Executive councils and state Houses of Assembly in the South West should fornulate an effecrive strategy and laws to domesticate the policy of reciprocity in their states like they did with the Amotekun law.

A more radical variant of this pragmatic policy was adopted and implemented by the Alhaji Sir Ahmadu Ibrahim Bello, Sardauna of Sokoto-led Northern Nigeria government in the 1st republic . It was very effective to quickly help Northern Nigeria ramp up human capacity and infrastructural development before the Premier's life was terminated violently on January 15, 1966.

Conclusion

Yoruba should not cheat Igbo and Igbo should not cheat Yoruba. Enough of this politics of lies, hate and bigotry every 4 years.

Reciprocity is the way out.


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Having gone through your sentimental and tribal based topic,I will like to reply in this form.
(1) Before the war, IGBOS, were not inferior to any tribe in Nigeria, neither are they till date . They were active and lively in all aspect of the existence of Nigeria, either politics, economy, social life, education etc. Till the war came that took over 3m souls and some of the brightest mind from them, which Yorubas nor any other tribe in Nigeria experienced. After the war, there was this promise of Reconstruction, Rebuilding and Restoration ( the infamous 3RS) of what was lost in the South East, by the then Military Government in Nigeria, which till date has remained unfulfilled. After 50yrs of the war, the must taunted 2 Niger Bridge, was just commissioned.
Any good discerner, will notice that once you enter into the South East, by the boundary between Asaba end of the Bridge, you will notice a region, denied of any federal presence, no industry, etc.
Therefore,the South East economy, is an economy that was single handedly built by the people of the South East after the war, with little or no help from any quarters in Nigeria, including anyone from the South West.
Therefore,we welcome the presence of the people of South West, into the region, to help us build our economy as we have done in the South West, You must be ready to buy land in the South East, as we do in the South West,
There's no company of note, owned by a Yoruba man in the whole of South East as we have in the South West.
We welcome your companies into South East.
You will not only take political jobs that will only last for 4yrs,max, 8. As I traveled to the South East, I saw three companies owned by the Northerners, namely, Rano Oil, Indimi and BUA in the South East, I was happy, but I didn't see any, owned by any Yoruba man.
IGBOS started investing in the South West since independence. You must do that in Igboland as well. We don't have an issue on reciprocity at all. It's welcomed.
(2) There's nothing an Igboman has in Lagos State or anywhere in the South West, that was given to him on a platter of gold. Lands were bought and paid for, even at the expense of their lives. Some bought lands and lost bought land and money till date. As you call for reciprocity, be prepared to earn your respect in Igboland. There's no free food in freetown.
No one will give you anything free in Igboland, as we gets nothing free here.
After buying your land in the South West, you pay for family receipt, foundation money, roofing money even for soak away, you pay for security, every container of an Igboman that enters any market is paid for. These, you must be ready in Igboland to pay as you call for reciprocity.
(3) In the South East, there's no discrimination in government policies as it concerns education, health, security etc. In the South East, there's no free education, this has been the position for long. As you clamour for reciprocity,be ready to pay what others are paying. In Lagos State, are you aware, that there are positions, that the IGBOS are codedly not allowed to reach in the ministries, because they are IGBOS?
(4) You always use Yoruba land and Lagos State, interchangeably. Please,learn to separate Lagos State, from other parts of Yoruba land. IGBOS have no issues with their hosts in other parts of South West. Lagos, as a state is quite distinct from other states in the South West, though there may be similarities, but it's a State where non- Indigenes are more than the indigenes, which is not the same with other states in the South West.
Tinubu, is not a Lagosian, same as Sanwo-Olu, Femi Hamzat, Obasa, Solomon Olamilekan and many others, but they'll play their politics here in Lagos State, but no one from Lagos State, can do do in any of the South western states
The IGBOS, as critical stakeholders in the development of Lagos State, has the same right as those from any of the South Western states, who are non- Indigenes, because the constitution of Nigeria guarantees every Nigerian the right to live anywhere of their choice peacefully vote and be voted for.
If you can't allow a Lagosian to vote and be voted for in any part of the South West, because they are non- Indigenes, I wonder what your problem is, when any other non-Indigene is taking part in the politics of Lagos State. Mind you, it's not only the IGBOS, that are doing so. Lots of people from Niger Delta and the North are in this now.
In conclusion,we welcome reciprocity at all levels,but you are your people must be ready to earn it.

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Politics / Re: Otti Appoints Ikechukwu Uwanna, 21 Others As Special Advisers (See list) by honeyB2018: 9:10pm On Jun 03, 2023
FreeStuffsNG:
No single non-Igbo appointed. Smh.

No South west State Governor, including my Governor, HE Sanwo-Olu, must ever appoint Igbo or any non-Yoruba except the Governor of his or her state has appointed a Yoruba first.

Since 1999, South East state Governors keep appointing only Igbo of their own but want other states to appoint Igbo. That is a recipe for injustice and kolewek.

For justice, appoint Yoruba and non-Igbo first and the non Igbo states will appoint Igbo, collaborating by reciprocation. Gone are those days of injustice when you hold your own 100% and want to collect that of others in Yorubaland then turn around to meddle in our politics to work against the dominant political aspirations of the Yoruba when they demand you give them from your own.

Gov. Alex Otti , same Alex who was made in Yorubaland, should appoint a Yoruba today if you want an Abian to get an appointment in Yorubaland! If you don't, for justice and fairness, nothing for Abians in Yorubaland too. Gov. Nasir El Rufai appointed Yoruba into his Exco for 8 years yet Mallam El Rufai was not even made in Yorubaland like Mr. Alex Otti. SE Igbo Governors have no excuse!

The cheating will no longer be tolerated. Give us land in Igboland if you want land in Yorubaland. Give us appointment in Igboland if you want appointment in Yorubaland. That is collaborating by reciprocation.

There should be equity and fairness. Open up your Igboland,jobs, appointments and the opportunities there to the Yoruba and other Nigerians same way the Yoruba did and we can make progress together. Alex Otti wants to continue in this clannish nepotic tradition of cheating the Yoruba living in Igboland and continue the injustice against other Nigerians.It must to stop!
Check my signature for free stuffs!


You clearly wrote like the tribal bigot that you are.
You need to check your facts well, before coming to a public platform like this, to disgrace yourself.
Thank God, you said, for justice, fairness and equity. I will like to ask you and your follow bigots, liking your trash how much you have invested in Igboland, to warrant the reciprocacity you are desiring? I'm not against any Yoruba man, who has merited an appointment in any state of South East, getting it. But you cannot stay 1000kms away from the South East, and expect that you will be appointed because you are a Yoruba man looking for justice, fairness and equity. It can never never be done. IGBOS, have been investing in the economy and people of the South West, before the independence of Nigeria, you can imagine the level of investment. How many have the Yorubas done in the South East?
The IGBOS have invested into the people and economy of South West, if they are appointed into any in office in Yoruba land, mingle with their politics, they deserve and merited it.
There are many Nigerians of Yoruba extraction, who resides in the UK, America, who have contested and won elections there and are accepted. Check out their records. They have sown in the land and are known . On what grounds should the appointment be made,where you never invested, because you are a Yoruba man? Ko Le work. It can't work.
Check your records, in Imo State, both Rochas and Uzodinma, have appointed non- Indigenes into their cabinet. A Yoruba was once the spokesperson of one the governors in the South East
So reap where you have sown and stop being a tribal chauvinist. Though, I'm not surprised, because a leopard, can never, and will never change his color.
On appointment by Sawon- Olu, it's quite sure that you don't know truly, who an Igboman is. You think an Igboman has time for government employment and appointments.
If Sawon- Olu likes, let him pick all the Yorubas in Lagos State into his cabinet, it makes no difference to us.
Politics / Re: Heavy Rain Destroys Tinubu's Inauguration by honeyB2018: 1:33pm On May 29, 2023
Rebelutionary:

All this youtube bloggers sef? Destroy abi? Dey play!


Why do we see always evil in anything that didn't favor us?
This is rainy season, the rain feel everywhere in Nigeria today. What's so bad in rain falling today? Is it because it an inauguration day? We should be sensible and eschew bitterness.
Politics / Re: TINUBU Will Not Be Sworn In - Pastor Kingsley by honeyB2018: 1:15pm On May 29, 2023
LosC:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV4AVuMKyHs

This Pastor has been saying this since last year and he repeated the same thing this morning

Ezekiel 14:4.
Therefore, speak unto them and say them; Every man of the house of Israel that setteth up his idol in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his inquity before his face and comment before the prophet; I the Lord will answer him that cometh according to the multitude of his idol.
From my observation, it's clear that in this election, there's already an idol in the heart of this man, and his idol is the name he continues to mention.
Tinubu has been sworn in, you said, that God said he will not. Today, after the swearing in, he became the president, and will sit on the chair meant for the president of the nation.
Ps.33: 9.
The Lord spake and it was done, he commanded and it was done. If God said Tinubu will not be sworn in, today, he has been sworn in, no military personnel was sent against him
Sometimes, it's good to evaluate our messages, and find out if it's really from God and wether the message is for personal or general consumption.
Number 23:19
God is not a man, that he should lie, neither the son of man that he should repent. Had he said, shall he not do it? Had he spoken, shall he not make it good?
We should stop making God a liar and stop ridiculing his exalted name, before the unbelievers.
Politics / Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by honeyB2018: 11:41pm On May 27, 2023
OceanRed:


well said, like i said earlier on, lag has been open to non indigenes since Nigeria independence, it still does, no qualms. The recent squabble between the yoruba and indigbo in lagos was political in origin, twas due majorly to clashing of politicalinterest between the both tribes. the indigbo's choice of gubernatorial candidate was a no no for a state like Lagos. Now election is over and things are gradually returning back to normal, im sure there will be positive changes in other aspect you mentioned. peace

It's an indelible mark, it's like the incident that took place after the war, where the IGBOS were given £20 of your money, irrespective of how much they have in the bank, till now, it's still fresh in our minds. So is the issue of this 2023. It will stink for a long time
Politics / Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by honeyB2018: 8:59am On May 27, 2023
OceanRed:


Lagos is not treating non indigene in any bad way, sw generally is accommodating to non indigene and foreigners, lagos alone has the highest number of foreigners and non indigene . there are non indigene holding political position in lagos same as in civil service!! highest in any state in Nigeria. As long as non indigene do not interfere with internal politics of the state, there will be continuous harmony. buh, the moment a certain group of non indigene take upon themselves to start regarding the host state as a no mans land, and at the same time trying to impose a non desirable political candidate on the state, then they have crossed the thin line between accommodating and hostility!
there are hausas, ijaw, tiv, etc and host of foreign nationals living in harmony in lagos, no one bothers them.
Dangote refinery will not be in lagos today if lagos is treating non indigene badly.


You continue to get things in the wrong way.
What do you mean by not entangling in local politics and you say it's safe?
Is Lagos State, not part of Nigeria? Is Lagos State, not bound by the constitution of Nigeria? Didn't the Nigerian constitution guarantees every Nigerian the right to vote and be voted for? The right to live in any part of Nigeria and be law abiding?
Are their no Nigerians of Yoruba extraction, who live in the UK, USA, who contest and win elections there? Why will it be seen as an aberration in Nigeria and in South West, if a non indigene offers himself in Lagos and anywhere in Nigeria for service to a community, where he has spent more than half of his life aside the state of his origin?
Just tell me that I'm not a Nigerian, so that I can understand my position. No Nigerian is for whatever reason is offering his services to anywhere in Ghana in an elective position. It's understood. He's a foreigner. When you tell me, not to mingle in the local politics, but you can canvass me to vote for you in an elections, ask me to go for my voters card, give me your campaign souvenirs, yet I can't decide who rules me, are you not calling me a foreigner and an Idiot?
If you want to copy others, copy well, if you follow others follow well and not half hearted.
You said Lagos has been fairly good for non indigenes, and investors, understand that investors are in categories, no matter your level, when your place of business, is constantly under attack, what do you call that? When there's constant fire out break and laws are been slammed on you from all quarters, what do you call that? Agberos, with government approval are constituting serious nuisance, what do you call that?. Have you taken a look at the containers and their nuisances on the road? What is the cause and you said it has been fair. Ok
Haven't you heard of investors in Lagos State, complaining of different kinds of tax regime and harassment here and there?
My post, was advisory, like I said, there, the North is reaping there own now, religion, culture, kidnapping, banditry, has taken a toll on their development.
South East, is trailing behind South- South, due to insecurity.
It's left to the people of South West especially Lagos State, to know who to treat non- indigenes. A careful look at investment now in the South West, is gradually shifting to Ogun State, this is what we're talking about
Politics / Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by honeyB2018: 8:16am On May 27, 2023
Fembleez1:


I choose to ignore your calling me a "little mind and small brain." I know you are being emotional already like every Igbo man will be. When other people are civil, you throw the insult and when people reply with the same dose, you start the blackmail game. I believe you all claim to be the most educated tribe in Nigeria but you can't converse without insult. Mehn, such an irony!!!

I would have replied with whatever rocks your boat sir. But my saying still goes that do not be arrogant. A Yoruba man will never say publicly they want to take your land from you and throw your king into the Lagoon. They will never call your state NO MAN's LAND. Why would a Yoruba man want to go to where there is no love? If your region and state Governors were working, you lot will not be leaving in droves to Yoruba land. It is not by force a person must migrate out of their land. Yorubas are not like you guys. And you talk about interactions. The most accommodating people are the Yorubas because they can interact with people of various tribes but still end up minding their own business.

No one pretends to love you in public than Igbos, but hate you passionately at your back. If you put 10 Yoruba people in a spot and ask them to pick between two choices. There is a likelihood you will get 60/40 or 70/30 or 50/50 results. But with 10 Igbo people in the same situation, you'll definitely get a 90/10 or 100/0 result.

You keep saying we must right the injustice done to Igbos. What Injustice Do you not rever a bright mind like Prof. Soludo? He has called out to you people to stop putting all eggs in one basket. But you people will not listen. Politics is a game of strategy. You have to build alliances and negotiate for power. No one can become president in Nigeria without negotiating power with other regions. But you lot always go One party or One Candidate, 90 to 100%. And that will always fetch you nothing.

If you want me to go through history with you, then you will definitely get a beating. Because I am going to educate you on the Bolded above, from 1953 till date. And I am going to let you know you Igbos and your past leaders you rever and still worship so much are the cause of what you face today. To be more blunt. You Igbos are the cause of why Nigeria is what it is today. You are the reason why you can not have the Biafra Republic. You are the reason why States are not in control of their resources. You are the reason why the Federal Government is so powerful. You are the reason why we are not practicing true Federalism or a Federal system of Government like the U.S. Please if you want me to go into history with you on that, let me know. I will look for a time to reveal the truth to you and curse the person who removed history from the Nigerian Education curriculum.

On a related note, I have had good interactions with Igbos right from my whole life in Lagos, through my elementary to Secondary School, and my University. And when I stayed in Enugu while a kid and Ebonyi while I was of reason. I have had good Igbo friends and their parents who love me so much and always prefer their sons interact/roll with me. In fact, these people always come to look for me whenever I do not come around and ask my Grannies why it has been a long time since they saw me. These are the finest and the purest Igbos I have met in my life, and I do not regret still having them as friends. But the way some of you came out in the last election is trying to corrupt my good fellow when I was very in support of Obi right till the election. In fact, I clamour for Igbo presidency or that Nigeria should let you guys leave.

So, sir, I will say again, let love lead. Let us raise kids in love that Nigeria is One and one day we will get it right. And let us build alliances for a better tomorrow.



What ever decision you make out of my choice of words, is your business not mine. My post initially, was advisory, especially to the people and leaders of South West, not to toe the part of destruction that other regions, including my own region have chosen.
I even said that the people of my region, the South East, will reap the fruit of their action in the next 10-20yrs, showing I was liberal in my post, before your tribal sentiments came up.
I'm surprised, you are accusing the people of South East, of lack of respect, full of insult, emotional and blackmailing, like I said earlier, it's another case of a pot calling a kittle black. Do I need to remind you and some of you of how disrespectful, sentimental and tribalistic that you are? You love to give to others, what you cannot take and expect from other, what you cannot give. Go to social media platforms, look at responses from a Yoruba man and judge for yourself, let me take you back to pre- 2015 elections, what kind of innuendos wasn't thrown at President G. E. J, by your people, even from those who are highly read and respected as leaders in Yoruba land. E.g Tinubu, Fashola, Bisi Akande, Olu False etc.
I have live about 50% of my life in the South West, though as an Igboman, within this period, I have met very good, loving, kind and wonderful people of Yoruba extraction, who I respect till date, in my post, I called them the OMOLUABIS. God bless them, for the sake of these people, I will not cast a blind blanket on all Yorubas, just as you can say about the IGBOS, and what is the lesson here?
In every society, there are different shades of people, it will be too wrong to cast everyone from a section of the society as been bad or good. Everyone, should be taken on their merit. For the sake of these Omoluabis, I tune down my tempo.
I have been privileged to go round the entire South West region, by God's grace, I have never seen anywhere, an Igboman call anywhere in Yoruba land, a NO MAN'S LAND. Rather, this is just a phrase used by some Omo Eshu in Yoruba land to cast aspersions on the IGBOS, give them a bad name, to showcase their hatred for the IGBOS. I have never seen anywhere, where an Igboman, said they will throw any traditional ruler in the South West, into the Lagoon, rather it was one of your traditional rulers that threatened to throw a whole tribe, into the Lagoon, if his candidate wasn't voted for. As God will have it, what is the position of the traditional ruler and that his candidate in the politics of Lagos today? How can you say IGBOS said Yoruba land is a NO MAN'S LAND, when there are people who you buy lands from and the family issues you a receipt?
The hatred some Yorubas have for the IGBOS, didn't start today, it has been an age long thing, that manifested in the last elections. I have lived here in the South West, I have moved in the midst of the people of South West, I have eaten their food, drank their water, move into their secret meetings, I can tell you for free, that the hatred is real and not imaginary, forget about the cosmetic approach out side. As a young man in the South West, I have been denied lots of things, like employment, accomodations, good pay because of my tribe, here in the South West, years before this elections, so you cannot tell me any shit about accommodating people and interactions within the South West.
There's this question, that I have always asked people of the South West, which no one has answered me, this is it. If the IGBOS in Lagos are disrespectful, boastful, mingling with the Local politics hence the attacks on them, then what was the offense of the Hausa/Fulani against the Yorubas in 2003, during the era of Tinubu as governor of Lagos State, that brought about the massacre of the Hausas here in Lagos State then?, in a region that is accommodative and interacts well with other people? It then means, something is wrong somewhere.
You can't be full of yourself,hatred, innuendos with other tribes and fight against anything you think that doesn't favor you and claim to be interactive and accommodating, this is the height of deceit.
As per the condition that Nigeria has found itself, that has made the center more powerful than the regions, I'm at loss, as to how this can come from you. I know where you are headed. But be true to your self. What brought about the civil war and what was the Yoruba connection to it?
Go do your research and be truthful to yourself with your findings.
You talked about Proff. Charles Soludo. Soludo is respected Igboman and leader, but he spoke as a politician. He has contested election into been the governor of Anambra State before under PDP, ask him, why he moved to APGA this time? Why did he fail before. APGA, has been ruling Anambra State now close to 20yrs. If IGBO are not putting their eggs in one basket, how could he have won? He had a candidate before the elections, aside the popular candidate from the South East. Having spoken as a politician, we will not listen to him. If he spoke as a statesmen, we will. He had interest that couldn't be accommodated within the South East political spectrum, hence no one will hear him
You talked about my governors not working hard for the development of the region, here again, I begin to look at your Sense of reasoning. For a region that lost about 3m souls, have their economy destroyed, without any practical steps taken to rebuild it till now, people are just talking about the 2nd Niger Bridge, after how many years after the end of the war? yet you can talk about it in this way.
By the way, which state in the South West, can be said to be developed aside Lagos State?
Are Yorubas from other states not trooping down to Lagos, for greener pastures, if your region is so developed? Despite not fighting any war and you think Yoruba land is more developed. Ekiti, the capital of Ekiti state, is like a glorified local government headquarters, I have been there.
You talked about love leading. You don't understand who an Igboman is, Incase you don't know, an Igboman is a builder, hence you see them build homes away from their home, feel free with his hosts and environment. Igboman is a lover of the nation called Nigeria, but his investment in this entity called Nigeria, has never been reciprocated and encouraging, hence the agitation
If you know who an Igboman is, you will understand that an Igboman is a serious competitor, who thrives on an environment, where there's a level ground. The unleveled ground upon which the Igboman is operating in this entity called Nigeria, is not giving him hope of bequeathing to his generation, a society that he call his nation, hence the agitation
How do you want an Igboman, to tell his generation next, that once upon a time in Lagos State, Yoruba land, he was prevented from exercising his civic responsibility, because he was an Igboman, nothing more than that?
How do you tell any Igboman, to believe in a nation, where his personal efforts and hussles and properties are destroyed in a land that is not his, because he's an Igboman, not a foreigner?
These are the issue, you and your people have to address.
After this, I will not respond to your post anymore, it adds no value to me. Bye.
Politics / Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by honeyB2018: 12:45pm On May 26, 2023
Fembleez1:


Yes. I know. The typical Igbo man who only interprets things to suit himself. Nobody forced you to do business in Lagos. Hence, you can go back to your state and pay taxes and rent there. You can petition the International Community and Investors to go to South East to invest. No one is stopping them. Please let go of the hatred. You have to associate with others and stop all this hatred and propaganda. We are supposed to have moved passed the 1960s, I mean as a young generation, we should be moving this country forward, but you guys are hell-bent on the hate theory. You play tribal politics amongst even people who are Igbos from other South-East states and want to Lord over people who accommodate you or where you do business. The same Tinubu you guys hate was the first person to grant you guys a seat at the House of Assembly, and so many other things he did for Igbos in Lagos that I will not talk about presently. Please, Nigeria is not like the USA where anyone can be elected to any political position irrespective of their State of Origin. Nigeria is not ripe for that sort of democracy yet, especially when you guys are calling to have a Biafra Country. I mean that agitation in itself speaks volumes.

I beg you once more, let go of the hatred and arrogance you have toward other tribes. We cannot move this country forward if we are stuck in the past. Thanks and have a good night's rest.


Your case is the case of a pot, calling the kettle black.
I want to tell you, that apart from the Hausas, who are adventurers like the IGBOS, no tribe interacts with people like the IGBOS, which is the reason, you see the IGBOS in every nook and cranny of this nation, so it's disappointing when people like you, will tell a highly mobile tribe like the IGBOS, unlike you and your Yoruba people, who sees the nation only from the prism of your region, to learn how to interact with people.
It a shame, that people like you and your Yoruba people should be telling the IGBOS of playing tribal politics, I keep wondering, if really you know your history. Check your record of politics in Nigeria after the independence, you have always been in the opposition, even from 1999, till 2015, when you introduced sectional politics that saw G. E. J out of power. Before 2015, where were the Yorubas in the national politics of Nigeria?
For your information, my post was that your leaders should learn from what has happened to other regions and comport themselves in the most reasonable manner, to avoid the same mistake.
People of the South East, for now are still Nigerians, and have the right, to reside anywhere in Nigeria, vote and be voted for, without harassment from any quarters, but anyone whoso wishes can relocate, no qualms with that but not by compulsion, as you in your little mind and brain, will want people to believe.
You are talking about a New Nigeria, and letting go the past misdeeds, have you ever asked yourself, if there's any attempt to address the misdemeanor of the past, to halt the agitation? You are talking about letting go the past,can there be peace without justice?
IGBOS don't hate Tinubu as a person, but some of the behind the scene statements and actions, been perpetrated to look as if the IGBOS are loved, but it's a Greek gift.
Did you hear what Remi Tinubu said against the IGBOS, before 2023 elections? If such could come out from her, what do you think goes on in the bedroom?
IGBOS, neither hate Tinubu nor the Omoluabis of Yoruba land, but treacherous attitude of pretending to love me in the public, but hate me in the private, which is more dangerous
2023 elections in Lagos, brought out that indwelling hatred for the IGBOS. This is the point.
Politics / Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by honeyB2018: 9:38pm On May 25, 2023
Fembleez1:


No one in Lagos had ever threatened investors, sir. Why is so it hard for you to desist from intruding in local politics? If the South-West was threatening investors, no one will sell land to them. Please always be objective in your analysis. Do not let the Obi or the last election becloud your judgment sir.

You are the one beclouded by sentiment here.
South West, is in Nigeria and bound by the constitution of Nigeria. By our constitution, every Nigerian has the right to vote and be voted for, where he or she resides. Every Nigerian, who resides in the South West, has the right to mingle with the politics of the region, just as any Yoruba man/woman,who resides outside the South West, has the right also. When you threaten Nigerians, resident in Lagos State, not to vote and ask them to go to their state of origin to vote, but you will not ask them to go to their state of origin to pay their taxes and rents, what do you call that?
The fact is that you don't know that international community and investors are watching.
Politics / Re: President Tinubu Will Commission Lagos Ibadan Expresssway- Fashola by honeyB2018: 9:05am On May 24, 2023
iammo:


Which major road is he not working on in southwest


Lagos- Badagry Expressway.
He started it, used it as a campaign propaganda against G. E. J, has visited the area severally, yet his 8yrs as minister, the road is not nearing completion in the next 1yr.
In my views, Fashola is a massive failure in his ministry.

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Politics / Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by honeyB2018: 8:57am On May 24, 2023
FreeStuffsNG:
Rivers state again. Smh.
Rivers state is not that liberal in things like this.

Ibifiri Bobmanuel, thank you. In one of my previous posts, I have said, that an investor is not interested in investing in a place where the peace of his investment, will be threatened. When the youths and people of Rivers and other Niger Delta areas, were flexing muscles under the name of militancy and oil, we told them, but the couldn't listen.
When the Northerners were using religion and culture to scare away investors, we said,they never listened. With all the arable land in their possession,no serious investor is looking towards that end.
The people of South East, under the guise of agitation for Biafra, are causing lots insecurity, making investment their, very difficult for big time investors. In the next 10-20 yrs, these agitators, will see the negative effect it will have on the economy of South East.
The people of Lagos State and South West, should be careful, the way,the treat non- Indigenes and potential investors. International community and investors are watching. Dangote is neither a Lagosian, nor a South Westerner, but look at the massive investment in Lagos. When you threaten non- Indigenes, you are threatening investors, no matter the class, every investor,no matter the class, has its contribution to both the IGR and employment within the region or state.
Therefore, Leaders in the South West, especially Lagos State, should be careful in their dealings with potential investors. Learn a lesson from what is happening in other regions.
Oil is been produced from the South-South, but headquarters of the multinationals are here in Lagos.
Think and act wisely.

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Romance / Re: This Is The Kind Of Past Women Want You To Forget(pictures) by honeyB2018: 8:04am On May 24, 2023
josielewa:
So many kids here. Some of you are married to brothel hoes and you will never know.. Hoes get married every Saturday... Dey play.. Just pray God gives you wife wey get sense.. I just dey laugh.. I can say 50-60 percent of naija ladies are full time or part time olosho. It's still your sons, uncles, brothers etc that will end up marrying them... Just pray for the one wey the glory still dey connect 4g, make you no go marry d one wey the network dey on gprs...


My brother, every olosho out there, was once a virgin, no doubt.
Everyone has a dark spot, even we the men. But what we are saying, is knowing the past, that they don't want you to know.
If you know that your girlfriend/ wife have had about 9 abortions and your are seriously looking for children and none has come, what will you do, when you know that?

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Romance / Re: This Is The Kind Of Past Women Want You To Forget(pictures) by honeyB2018: 7:58am On May 24, 2023
Queendera:
There's always a sucker somewhere ready to worship her. So whether you forget her past or not, she'll always get someone.

Maybe not you. Maybe not your brother or father or uncle but someone is always ready

So you think? And many are out there seeking for attention and crying for love.
If it's so, lot will not be regretting their past too.

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Politics / Re: President Buhari To Commission Second Niger Bridge Tomorrow by honeyB2018: 1:53am On May 23, 2023
Melezenawii:
President Buhari to Commission Second Niger Bridge Tomorrow

How true is this?
I passed through the Niger Bridge last week, though some works were on going, but no sign of it's completion by now.
What of Lagos- Ibadan Expressway?
These are legacy projects that this administration, ought to have delivered before their exit.
Babatunde Raji Fashola, as both Hon Minister of Works, Housing and Power, couldn't deliver to the nation, uninterrupted power supply, neither could he also deliver the legacy projects, what a shame as a minister
Politics / Re: Oil In Niger Delta, Refinery In SW by honeyB2018: 1:20am On May 23, 2023
APCNig:


There is oil in Lagos too. Ask Igbos why they establish baby factories in Yoruba land. It’s economics of scale


You will die because of your Igbo phobia.
What has the IGBOS got to do with this post?
Thank God for a poster, who said, militancy and community wahala sent Dangote out of Niger- Delta. Let me tell you something, very soon, Lagos State, will soon be like Niger- Delta,if you and your leaders in the South West, don't take time. Investors, go to places where their investments are secured, not in hostile places.
When you threaten non- Indigenes and their investments, you are creating a monster that will haunt you in the future.
Go to Port Harcourt, and see what I'm saying, take a walk along the industrial areas, ask yourself, where the owners are now
Go to Warri, with with seaport, and see wether it's functional. These are the products of militancy and insecurity and restiveness. When they youths were been told then, they were saying my oil my oil, our oil. Today, their employment is taking out from them.
If you don't take time in South West, the Niger- Delta experience, will be small.

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Politics / Re: Oil In Niger Delta, Refinery In SW by honeyB2018: 1:03am On May 23, 2023
Rutherford2019:
What's the logic of siting oil refinery in Lagos but the oil is produced in Niger Delta?
Is there no land in SS and What's the cost of transporting crude oil from Rivers state to Lagos..
My Niger Delta brothers Igbos are better than you people at least if the oil is located in SE nobody can try this shit


Stop your lamentation. Lagos State, also produces oil too.
The case of Niger- Delta, should be a case study to every region, where non- Indigenes and the investors peace are been threatened.
There is a refinery in PH, but restiveness and unfavorable security situation, has sent people away. This will soon be the case in Lagos State, if the leaders, politically don't put their senses into action.
Threatening investors and non- Indigenes have it's price, and it's about capital, human and development flight.
Dangote, is an Hausa man, why Lagos and not anywhere else?
We must all learn
Politics / Re: How Policy Reversal Prevented Me From Acquiring Refinery In 2006 — Dangote by honeyB2018: 12:50am On May 23, 2023
Confirmedzombie:
And Peter was a governor then yet couldn't treat this but feel he is the message now.

Obi wearing only one black clothe to deceive his brainwashed obedients.

Peter obi is finished politically. I love the way he was ignore today like a bird without feather.

Shameless man

But what has Obi got to do with this post?
Sometimes, I wonder how stupid some people are. Just to say , I said something.
Be sensible in your life.

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