Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Deny The Virgin Birth Of Jesus by honourhim: 10:49pm On Dec 13, 2014 |
frosbel: You will be surprised that you and your churches with the infallible MOGs have more in common with SATAN than small people like me who are fighting against a whorish church that has betrayed it's saviour. Do you think God will bless a church that preaches fraud every sunday, steals from their members and preaches heretical doctrine of devils ??
I think not. Do you even know God? Is it not a height of foolishness for one who does not believe that God can cause a virgin birth to believe that that same God could raise Jesus from the dead? That the same God could create such a complex world? That the same God will cause the dead to rise from their graves on the last day? Is it not a height of foolishness for you to believe the bible at all with all the miracles and mysteries recorded in it which are beyond human understanding with such a claim on virgin birth? Honestly you are a pathetic case. If those MOG's you mentioned are agents of satan then obviously you are the chief priest of satan. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Deny The Virgin Birth Of Jesus by honourhim: 10:36pm On Dec 13, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: What rung of the stairs are you on again?  https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Descent_of_the_Modernists%2C_E._J._Pace%2C_Christian_Cartoons%2C_1922.jpg frosbel: A lot of your beliefs are Pagan myths which you hold as idols of worship.
That is why you guys never win any true converts , what you have is mostly hypocrites and holier than thou people following and almost worshipping one man called Kumuiyi.
Stop letting Kumuyi think for you, starting dusting the cobwebs off your brain and THINK , REASON and APPLY TRUTHS.
 When you started this your journey with satan a long time ago, Ola posted these steps and told you thats how you will keep going down but you dismissed him. Now you have gone through the steps as he said and here he has brought it to remind you. You should even be ashamed of talking to him because when he first posted those steps you had not taken them. Today what he said a long time ago has come to pass. Do hide your face in shame. The records are there. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Deny The Virgin Birth Of Jesus by honourhim: 10:27pm On Dec 13, 2014 |
frosbel: Destroy the hearts of people ? By straightening out the true tenets of our faith you call that doing a bad service ?
 Even Satan claimed he was doing a good job when he was deceiving man in the garden of Eden. I'm not surprised at the similarities both of you share. Birds of the same feather. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Songs Sang In Hypocrisy During Church Service. by honourhim: 10:20pm On Dec 13, 2014 |
Number 10- Wherever he leads i will go.
If he leads you to Boko haram hot zone to go and preach will you go? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Deny The Virgin Birth Of Jesus by honourhim: 9:41pm On Dec 13, 2014*. Modified: 9:56pm On Dec 13, 2014 |
frosbel: "They will put you out of the pagan churches synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God." - John 16:2
 Yea just as you are killing the word of God, trying to destroy its truth in the hearts of people and thinking you are doing a great service to God. |
Celebrities › Re: Picture Of Dress Linda Ikeji Bought For N1m, You Like? by honourhim: 9:37pm On Dec 13, 2014 |
Is this supposed to be a testimony of God's goodness in her life or a testimony of waste of resources that would ve been used to support some poor ones out there? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Deny The Virgin Birth Of Jesus by honourhim: 7:30pm On Dec 13, 2014 |
frosbel: And you are right, I am a follower of Yeshua not your Jesus. Obviously you are following satan who has plunged you into an un-ending deceit. Your case is so pathetic. Only God can deliver you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Deny The Virgin Birth Of Jesus by honourhim: 4:35pm On Dec 13, 2014 |
johnydon22: lolz for ur mind.... isaiah said a maiden/young woman not virgin... and their is no way anybody named jesus emmanuel, he was named yehushuah ... oh matthew..smh..  Bro you dont even have a stand. Do you? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Deny The Virgin Birth Of Jesus by honourhim: 4:33pm On Dec 13, 2014 |
frosbel: don't mind them , religion has turned them into zombies.  Now you are still a zombie- 1. if you believe that there is a God that is living beyond the sky. 2. If you believe that he created this world. 3. If you believe that Jesus died and resurrected. 4. If you believe that Jesus ascended to heaven. 5. If you believe that Jesus raised Lazarus from death, opened the eyes of the blind, healed the sick of various diseases. 6. If you believe that Jesus will come back and that when the trumpet sounds the dead will rise. You are still a zombie if you believe in the bible at all. A book you dont know those who wrote it. Now free yourself of this zombie and join atheism. You are a poison to christianity. See zombie wey dey call others zombie. |
Politics › Re: South-East Will Support Jonathan Though He Failed Igbos - APGA by honourhim: 4:11pm On Dec 13, 2014 |
He spoke for himself. Even his party does not have a wide acceptance in the east. How many states in the east are controlled by APGA? How many senators,, house reps members, state house of assembly members from the east are in his party? Noise maker. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor-preneurs by honourhim: 3:40pm On Dec 13, 2014 |
frosbel: What is truth ? Truth is in Christ not your doctrinal idols and church dogmas. Yeshua is the truth, the way and the life.
Coming back to hell, the 'god' that will put his creatures into an everlasting torture chamber while preaching against torture is a hypocrite and sadist, this your 'god' sounds more like satan than God himself.
God is LOVE and the wages of SIN is DEATH , not HELL. Stop listening to your MOG.
 Again your denial in suppression of your fears shows up here. This won't help you. Carving out your own god different from the God that Jesus told us that he can destroy both the soul and body in the bible is a height of self deceit. It is you that is actually in terrible idolatory. You don't even know Christ yet you keep talking about him. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor-preneurs by honourhim: 2:19pm On Dec 13, 2014*. Modified: 3:31pm On Dec 13, 2014 |
frosbel: For educational purposes, not for me but for others.  There's an adage in my area that says - when handshake pass hand go reach elbow e no be handshake again. The effort you ve put in writing agains what you said doesn't exist smacks of fear fear and fear. You are using the denial to suppress the fear it doesn't work that way bro. Embrace the truth. Its hard but it ll set you free. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor-preneurs by honourhim: 2:04pm On Dec 13, 2014 |
frosbel: If I did not agree with the content of the article do you think I would have posted it here , smh. About Hell Fire , take it up on the other thread so that we can educate and de-brainwash you from a dogmatic religious foundation. You may agree with the article but you don't see It as sound doctrine. If you did you wouldn't have asked me to start by preaching sound doctrine. Seems you are confused. I don't need your fear inspired teaching on hell. I ve read it over and over in your various threads and your teaching shows falsehood. It shows you are scared of hell fire. So scared that you engage in denial as a way out. You keep writing against what you said doesn't exist. A mark of self deceit. Why will I waste my time on what doesn't exist. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor-preneurs by honourhim: 10:36am On Dec 13, 2014 |
frosbel: you can start by preaching sound doctrine instead of myth. I guess the OP is not sound doctrine to you? Sound dactrine to you is denying hell fire due to its fear. Park well bro and stop living in fear. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Television In Your Room Is An Agent Of The Devil - David Oyedepo by honourhim: 10:32am On Dec 13, 2014*. Modified: 4:18pm On Dec 13, 2014 |
See dumb people calling Oyedepo dumb. How can a reasonable human being read the tiny piece of information that the OP wrote and draw conclusions?
A reasonable man will wait to get the info in its totality before concluding. All these dumb people that are too fast to call others dumb. Pathetic.
I'm not Oyedepo fan but I can't be dumb to draw conclusion based on the tiny info in the OP. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Way Love Should Be..but Am Also Guilty by honourhim: 9:50am On Dec 13, 2014 |
holatin: I Ve to eat before reading this  |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Way Love Should Be..but Am Also Guilty by honourhim: 9:33am On Dec 13, 2014 |
divAnnie: Hi everyone, was going through a post and I hope it blesses ur day and life as much as it did mine. A bit lengthy but worth it..totally worth it!!
REFLECTIONS:
A CHRISTMAS TO REMEMBER.
This is a first-person account from a mother about her family as they ate dinner on Christmas Day in a small restaurant many miles from their home. Nancy, the mother, relates:
We were the only family with children in the restaurant. I sat Erik in a high chair and noticed everyone was quietly eating and talking. Suddenly, Erik squealed with glee and said, "Hi there." He pounded his fat baby hands on the high-chair tray. His eyes were wide with excitement and his mouth was bared in a toothless grin. He wriggled and giggled with merriment.
I looked around and saw the source of his merriment. It was a man with a tattered rag of a coat; dirty, greasy and worn. His pants were baggy with a zipper at half-mast and his toes poked out of would-be shoes. His shirt was dirty and his hair was uncombed and unwashed. His whiskers were too short to be called a beard and nose was so varicose it looked like a road map.
We were too far from him to smell, but I was sure he smelled. His hands waved and flapped on loose wrists. "Hi there, baby; hi there, big boy. I see ya, buster," the man said to Erik.
My husband and I exchanged looks, "What do we do?" Erik continued to laugh and answer, ""Hi, hi there." Everyone in the restaurant noticed and looked at us and then at the man. The old geezer was creating a nuisance with my beautiful baby.
Our meal came and the man began shouting from across the room, "Do ya know patty cake? Do you know peek-a-boo? Hey, look, he knows peek-a-boo."
Nobody thought the old man was cute. He was obviously drunk. My husband and I were embarrassed. We ate in silence; all except for Erik, who was running through his repertoire for the admiring skid-row bum, who in turn, reciprocated with his cute comments.
We finally got through the meal and headed for the door. My husband went to pay the check and told me to meet him in the parking lot. The old man sat poised between me and the door. "Lord, just let me out of here before he speaks to me or Erik," I prayed. As I drew closer to the man, I turned my back trying to side-step him and avoid any air he might be breathing. As I did, Erik leaned over my arm, reaching with both arms in a baby's pick-me-up, position. Before I could stop him, Erik had propelled himself from my arms to the man's.
Suddenly a very old smelly man and a very young baby consummated their love relationship. Erik in an act of total trust, love and submission laid his tiny head upon the man's ragged shoulder. The man's eyes closed, and I saw tears hover beneath his lashes. His aged hands full of grime, pain and hard labor - gently, so gently cradled my baby's bottom and stroked his back.
No two beings have ever loved so deeply for so short a time. I stood awestruck. The old man rocked and cradled Erik in his arms for a moment, and then his eyes opened and set squarely on mine. He said in a firm commanding voice, "You take care of this baby." Somehow I managed, "I will," from a throat that contained a stone. He pried Erik from his chest unwillingly, longingly, as though he were in pain. I received my baby, and the man said, "God bless you ma'am, you've given me my Christmas gift."
I said nothing more than a muttered thanks. With Erik in my arms, I ran for the car. My husband was wondering why I was crying and holding Erik so tightly, and why I was saying, "My God, my God, forgive me." I had just witnessed Christ's love shown through the innocence of a tiny child who saw no sin, who made no judgment; a child who saw a soul, and a mother who saw a suit of clothes.
I was a Christian who was blind, holding a child who was not. I felt it was God asking --"Are you willing to share your son for a moment?", when He shared His son for all eternity.
The ragged old man, unwittingly, had reminded me, "To enter the Kingdom of God, we must become as little children." Wow...quite a nice one. Its worth reading. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Using The Fear Of Hell by honourhim: 9:18am On Dec 13, 2014 |
truthislight: No no no!!!
You are not making any sense strictly speaking, the things you have just said is baseless.
What can be real about a word that was imported into the Bible via translation and never used by the writers ?
for the word "Hell" is a Latin word with a Pegan Latin meaning.
Jesus never made use of the word Hell, since the word usage in connection with the Bible started when the Greek scriptures was translated into Latin, meanwhile, Jesus spoke koine Greek/Hebrew languages.
How could Jesus A Jew made use of a Greek word to teach his Jewish brothers ?
The word Hell became common to all cause the Latin bible was refused translation for over 1000yrs, hence, the manuscript that became common to translators after 1000yrs was the Latin bible with the word Hell.
So, most translators carried that word Hell to their language translations.
If you wish, I will also Help you to see how Jesus made use of the word "fire" in the Bible.
Peace though. Bro you are just living in denial and self deceit. Here are the various ways Jesus described hell fire. Stop saying it as if its only the word hell that was used. Jesus described it as everlasting fire in Mathew 18:8 Mathew 25:41. Matthew 3:12 desribes it as unquenchable fire. Mark 3:29 jesus called it eternal damnation. Mark 9:47 says hell fire. Mark 9:48 says its a fire that cannot be qenched. Then the story of Lazarus and the rich man in Luke 16:19-31 which you deceitfully call a parable. Stop deceiving yourself. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor-preneurs by honourhim: 8:09am On Dec 13, 2014 |
Beautiful piece. I'm trying to work out something as my own way of helping to save the Nigerian worshippers from this horrible situation. God will help us. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Using The Fear Of Hell by honourhim: 7:26am On Dec 13, 2014 |
truthislight: Denial of what exactly ?
That God will Burn humans in fire for all eternity ? SMH for you.
It's a pity that you have not gotten over this Issue by now with proper research of the Bible.
SMH. You people are using your denial to supress your fears. Too bad. It doesn't change anything. Stop playing your game of denial with the scriptures. It won't help you. Hell fire is very real. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Your Passing Phase To A Higher Grace. by honourhim: 8:24pm On Dec 12, 2014 |
xpac01: Read through and get blessed. You ought to always remember this, 'the devil only fights what he fears'! Contrary to common belief that something is wrong with you when you have many challenges, it may actually be the opposite. It may be that you have so many challenges because there is a great star in you! Let’s take a look at Joseph first. If it were to be today’s world, wouldn’t people want to recommend Joseph for a high-grade deliverance session? Wouldn’t people conclude that the man is cursed and the spirit of retrogression is fighting him? Wouldn’t people want to say that, out of all his father’s son, he was the most unlucky, possessed, black sheep of the family, the one that was rejected and hated and so on? But we later understand that he was actually walking with God! How can someone be sold into slavery and be moved to a strange town by his brothers? Wouldn’t people say that the household wickedness of his father’s house have finished him? Then he became a slave in Potiphar’s house but didn’t last long! He seemingly bleeped up and was soon in the prison. Chai!! Was that not a retrogressive and stubborn demonic attack? What about David? Anointed as a king in his teenage years but only sat on the throne at the age of thirty. Was that not a gang up of demonic delay against his destiny? Saul fought him to his last breath. Was that not royal hatred against him? Wouldn’t he need his head washed? What I want you to see is that, nothing was wrong with those guys, it was just a path they needed to pass through to get to where God was taking them. You see, all they went through was a passing phase and not a parking space! Joseph could have missed it if he got depressed along the way but he kept on helping people and interpreting their dreams and one day, his gift made a way for him. David could have lost it with a bad attitude to King Saul, but he behaved himself wisely and he would not stop praising God! So the most important thing in your going through to a getting through is your attitude and your ability to refuse to react. Nothing is wrong with you. That is the word of the Lord to you! Shalom! Beautiful and inspiring. God bless you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by honourhim: 7:47pm On Dec 12, 2014*. Modified: 8:14pm On Dec 12, 2014 |
frosbel: So what happens to those 85% Muslims who never become Christians, are they forever lost and damned ?
Thanks. 1. salvation is not restricted to the four walls of the church. 2. God can minister his true word and salvation to anybody anywhere and at anytime so you cant conclude that the rest of them who were not opportune to come to church are dying without salvation. The thief at the cross got saved at the cross not in the church. God sees the heart, he knows the muslim(or other religion) man/woman that is earnestly seeking him with a genuine heart and God will never fail to minister the truth to such people. It is only those who do not hunger for the truth, the hypocrites etc that will be damned and this includes both the muslim/other religion and "christians" and every other person. 3. Jesus said "blessed are they who hunger and thirst after righteousness for they shall be filled" (Matthew 5;6). He didnt say blessed are those who go to church, or blessed are they who keep church doctrines and traditions. Being a member of a church does not make one a true follower of Jesus. |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by honourhim: 1:59pm On Dec 12, 2014 |
frosbel: ^^^
How can you be so sure.
Suppose you were born as a Hindu or Muslim or Buddhist , would you say the same thing ? A good number of examples but let me mention a few. Quite a lot of muslims, dedicated muslims, brought up in muslim background have had encouter with Christ and became chriistians. Stood their ground in the face of severe persecution from family members and community because of their conviction. You hardly see a dedicated christian joining islam. Most christians who join islam do so based on marriage, politics or money but none will tell you he had a personal encouter with Muhammed. What I'm saying is that its not culture that determines true religion. Christianity has broken into various cultures and backgroud. |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by honourhim: 1:29pm On Dec 12, 2014 |
frosbel: Lets be honest, we are all born into a culture , religion and tradition. We are a product of these factors plus the additional factor of parental upbringing.
Considering that there are over 50 world religions including the main ones , i.e Islam and Christianity each with a plethora of denominations or sects , especially in Christianity with over 40,000 sects and still growing, how can one be 100% confident that his/her religion and sect is the right one ??
Mr A is a Muslim and can swear with his life that Islam is the one and true religion and without this no one can be saved, Mr B is a Christian who believes that anyone who does not believe in Jesus is forever lost. But they were born into these religions and were tutored from kindergarten that they ONLY worship the true GOD.
Furthermore at a high level , the Sunnis believe the Shiites are hell bound and vice versa, Deeperlife believe they have the right doctrines but so do Christ embassy and redeemed.
We have so many doctrines, teachings, beliefs etc , but HOW DOES MAN FILTER THROUGH ALL THIS CONFUSION TO KNOW WHICH IS THE RIGHT WAY ?
Knowing that 40% of the worlds population will never agree with Islam or Christianity or may not even have heard about them, how can we be so sure that we are right and they are wrong and we are saved but they are damned. What is the premise for your conclusion ?
Please help me here. The gospel of our Lord Jesus christ is the 100 percent true religion. There's no two ways about it. As for denomination, there's nothing like true denomination. Jesus did not introduce denomination to us so it doesn't count. What the bible told us is to assemble. |
Romance › Re: Hilarious: Tells Us What Is Going Through This Groom's Mind [photo] by honourhim: 8:07pm On Dec 11, 2014 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Happy Birthday To Bishop Dr. Goddy Okafor. by honourhim: 7:31am On Dec 11, 2014 |
samcidon: My ppl abeg mak una follow me thank God for adding anoda year to our Father, Friend, Mentor, Motivator, and My Loving Pastor, Bishop Dr. Goddy Okafor. Daddy, we, the people of nairaland luv and appreciate you. You are a father indeed. Happy Birthday our Lord Bishop. He is the presiding Bishop of Glorious Life Gospel Centre aka Peculiar People Min Int'l Inc. At #2 alex onyeador close ogborhill Aba, Abia State, Nigeria and He is also the CAN chairman of abia state. What do you mean by Bishop Dr? You people sound so stu.pid in this your show of shame in your churches. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Of The Atheists In Nairaland So Far by honourhim(op): 7:28am On Dec 11, 2014 |
Weah96: First expose your brothers right here on NL who worship a different WHITE man than your own white male model. Leave me out of it. The slave masters have entrapped your weak brain. There's no need for physical chains and manual chores when you're walking around praying to a Caucasian male every 5 seconds. Foolish brain that says his parents, aunties and uncles are superstitious and foolish. You are truly a pathetic case Thats the madness that comes along with atheism. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Of The Atheists In Nairaland So Far by honourhim(op): 2:47pm On Dec 10, 2014 |
Weah96: Who is we? Speak for yourself. You haven't been able to convince other fellow CHRIST-TARDS here that you follow the correct version of the WHITE man, but it's me you wanna convince?
Oya, keep praying to Jim Caviezel. See how far it gets you. #Pinhead. Me trying to convince you? See dreamer. That's what your small brain tells you. I'm just exposing your foolishness since you always like quoting me. I don't usually care about you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Of The Atheists In Nairaland So Far by honourhim(op): 1:27pm On Dec 10, 2014 |
Weah96: See this one. Your Caucasian male God has corrupted your intellect to the point where sarcasm flies by your brain like the wind.
Commot for road! Shut up and stop hiding your shame. I was waiting for your silly excuse. Today you ll talk atheism, next day you talk flying goat, next day you talk flying spaghetti, now its Allah. What a confused boy you are. Keep messing yourself up and be covering it up with sacarsm. We have always preached Christ to you because we are sure of our stand. We don't have time to engage in useless sacarsm which you hide under to showcase your foolishness and confused state. Meanwhile how are you dealing with your "supertitious and foolish parents, uncles and aunties"(according to you the wise one)? |
Christianity Etc › Re: All Christians Read! Instructions From God! *prophecy* by honourhim: 11:26am On Dec 10, 2014 |
@OP, your link is showing nothing related to what you said here. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Of The Atheists In Nairaland So Far by honourhim(op): 7:43am On Dec 10, 2014 |
Weah96: Only the will of Allah matters to me. Everything else, including your opinion, is secondary.
Embrace your creator, or face the punishment later. Obviously you are a confused boy. An atheist preaching Allah? Shows you don't even know where to stand. The shame of atheism is catching on you fast. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Boycott All End Of Year 2014 Conventions, It's A Scam. by honourhim: 6:34am On Dec 10, 2014 |
@frosbel, What you wrote makes good sense though. It would ve been better if you had put this message in tracts before december and distributed to people.
Pls where is the anti-tithe tract you promised? December is going o.
Again when will complete your stories on your encounter in churches as you promised? December is going o. |