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ammyluv2002:
I don't need evidence to know my Creator exist...

My dear God bless you. I don't know why some christians waste their precious time discussing whether God exist or not instead of preaching the gospel. We all know for sure that there is God. Those who want to doubt can go ahead but it doesn't change anything. Even if all of us decides to disbelieve in God it will still not make God to stop existing. He has been there before creating us.

Dapo777:
Tag: theunusualmoon, Honourhim

Before i make my submission i want to be sure that you will keep this discussion free of insult and abuse of any kind either to me or to God. You can disagree with any point i make but not with insult or abuse. Note that i called it discussion not argument. I disagree with atheists like Kay17, Davien, Dataman yet we dont bring insults into our disagreements. If you cant control yourself we can leave the discussion. Thanks.

@Gombs,
This is december, have you seen the anti-tithe tract? Na wetin dey delay am na?

Dapo777:
That is my father someone I have seen and I know very well. I am talking about a sky daddy you have never seen,don't know what he looks like etc,Why do you defend someone you have never seen,someone you don't even know he looks like,what he sounds like. The only answer is, YOU ARE GOD. THAT IS WHY YOU GET HURT WHEN I TALK BADLY OF HIM,YOU ARE GOD. YES YOU ARE GOD. IF YOU WEREN'T GOD WHAT I AM DOING NOW SHOULDN'T GET YOU ANGRY AT ALL.

Irrelevant post.

Dapo777:
It's funny how christians cook up excuses for god,now I am convinced that they are the God they serve. That's is why they always defend God,fight for God,get angry at those who ridicule God because they are God,if God exist he would do what the Christians are doing on his behalf.

This thread just confirms this thread

https://www.nairaland.com/1987558/now-believe-god-real-evidence

And if somebody abuses your father before you, you will be happy and even be clapping for the person? You reason so foolishly. Honestly you need serious help. I pity you.

johnydon22:
bro if i start pointing out all the evil the bible attributed to God in the bible. . u might loose ur faith. its better we leave it this way. . . hold on to ur belief since it works for u

My point is that if God did evil its not out of place with his person. He said he created good and evil. Its not as if he presented himself as one that has no hand in the creation of evil. He never also told us that we will receive only good from him. Job 2;10 confirmed it. When we say he is an all good God and therefore should not allow evil on people, then he is being misjudged i think.

Dapo777:
Argumentum ad hominem, answer my question. Where is it in the Bible that Adam and Eve later got used to each others unclothedness. If you can't show me where it is in the bible ,then it means you are shameless liar,the best thing you can do is attack me (Argumentum ad hominem) rather than prove your show us the liar that you truly are. One would think this man moves about his room naked because he is used to his wife seeing his unclothedness. Ode.

If you cant find the answers in what others have found answers then it shows how foolish and shameless you are.

honourhim:
Still blame your low brain for not seeing the answer in that thread. I gave you all your answers but quite unfortunate your low brain couldnt see it but those around saw it and even confirmed they ve understood me. You are really a disgrace to atheism that claims intelligence.

Dapo777:
2)Why does God give me sexual urge as early as the age of 11 and forbid me from exercising it before marriage, why can't God make man/woman have sexual urge like after the age of 21 So that by then we would be matured enough and fornication won't be as high as it is now.

Does marriage solve the problem? How about married men who commit adultery. How about single guys who sleeps around with girls even when they have a girlfriend who is giving them se.x(including you)?

Dapo777:
5)Why does God get angry when I sin,he is omniscience, whatever I do shouldn't come as a surprise to him So I see no reason why he should be angry when he already knows I would sin.

God does not get angry when you sin rather when you sin and refuse to repent or when you enjoy sinning and make it a way of life.

Dapo777:
6)God made women beautiful and sexy,So why does he instruct me not to be lustful,he should have made them ugly and unappealing if he didn't want me to lust in the first place.

If your sisters are created ugly would you be happy? If your daughter is ugly would you be ok with it? Again how would you define ugly without beauty. If all women were created ugly, you would ve still seen them as attractive because there would ve been no beauty to define the ugly.

Dapo777:
10)If God created the universe why is he So wasteful,he created millions of galaxies, our galaxy inclusive,with each galaxy having millions of planets
,just because he wants to create an earth with humans occupying an insignificant place in the universe, is he So wasteful?

You are the one calling it a waste. To God who created them, they are not a waste. They have purposes they are serving. That you are not aware of the purposes they are serving doesnt mean they are a waste.

Dapo777:
Ohhh shutup, tell me where it is in the Bible that Adam and Eve were later used to seeing each other unclothedness then we would know who the unrepentant liar is

Still blame your low brain for not seeing the answer in that thread. I gave you all your answers but quite unfortunate your low brain couldnt see it but those around saw it and even confirmed they ve understood me. You are really a disgrace to atheism that claims intelligence.

Idrismusty97:
Says a theist. Which of these two is really on a journey of self deceit? Look at it critically. Well atheism isn't. Just like mynairatime said "You would have peace within yourself". The existence or nonexistence of god doesn't make any difference in the world. Then why waste your time believing on a useless being? Now you see who is "on a journey of self deceit"? As an atheist you don't have to blame the devil for your failures or say stuffs like "It happens for a reason" blahblah...You don't have to credit a sky daddy for your success either. You create your own heaven on earth if you so wish, We only have one life to live...Make it count!

I am not expecting you to tell me that atheism is a horrible choice. You answered what i expected from you. You can carry on with whatever you want. At the end you will see if you were right or wrong.

Dapo777:
No I won't,because it's only a stupid person that would say the Zoe tribe are all sexually close to each other that's why they are unclad,and you agreed with him. This is one of the reasons why I am against religion.
[size=15]religion completely kills the common sense [/size]

You must always lie to drive your points. How foolish. Instead you to blame your stu.pidity on your low brain that lacked understanding of what i said you resorted to lies even when some other people there had already understood my point. You are really a pathetic case.

Dapo777:
You are living in self denial, there is no afterlife you only have one life to live,the concept of afterlife is a pagan practice borrowed into Christianity ,open your life and live your life to the fullest stop denying yourself the enjoyment of life,once you die you won't even remember a thing,you won't be conscious of anything,from non existence you came,to non existence shall you return,that's the sad truth.

I pity you. When you die and see how you have deceived yourself, you will remember you were warned but you refused to heed to the warning and you wont have any excuse to give. Repent now before it is too late. May God help you.

theunusualmoon:
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You still havn't given up on this Zoe tribe thing?

He is acting out his age. I'm not surprised. He cant do better than this.

Idrismusty97:
Being a theist doesn't solve it either. Not everyone who are angry at god are atheist. You may call them Apatheists.

I agree but being an atheist is rather a horrible choice. A journey of self deceit.

Dapo777:
Yes it has to me. Realizing there is no God reduces the confusion.

This hasnt solved any problem. You are just living in self deceit. At the end of the day you ll still face God.

Dapo777:
1)Why do we have So many evils in this world. But God is a good God why does he allow evil,why can't he just end all this sufferings once and from all?

2)Why does God give me sexual urge as early as the age of 11 and forbid me from exercising it before marriage, why can't God make man/woman have sexual urge like after the age of 21 So that by then we would be matured enough and fornication won't be as high as it is now.

3)Why don't God communicate with everyone instead of using the Bible that is long boring and difficult to understand, why should there be Bible anyway when he(God) can tell us whatever he wants to tell personally.

4)why don't God answer all my prayers after promising to answer all my prayers in the Bible,he didn't give any conditions for answering prayers So why isn't he?

5)Why does God get angry when I sin,he is omniscience, whatever I do shouldn't come as a surprise to him So I see no reason why he should be angry when he already knows I would sin.

6)God made women beautiful and sexy,So why does he instruct me not to be lustful,he should have made them ugly and unappealing if he didn't want me to lust in the first place.

7)Where did God come from? Who created God since nothing can come from nothing,God must definitely come from something, God can't create himself,it's impossible So who created God,and who created the entity that created God,and who created the entity that created the entity that created God,and So on like that.

Does this universe have end,how does the end look like? If not,how come? Is it possible to have a container with endless volume,what is outside the universe if it has an expanding end.

9)what does God look like? Does he take the shape of a human? Is he shapeless? Where is the spiritual realm? Is it outside the universe?

10)If God created the universe why is he So wasteful,he created millions of galaxies, our galaxy inclusive,with each galaxy having millions of planets
,just because he wants to create an earth with humans occupying an insignificant place in the universe, is he So wasteful?

Then you got angry and became an atheist. You think you ve solved the situation?

johnydon22:
ok since all your knowledge amd definition of God is narrowed on one book bible, lets go from there. . . u pointed out the bible didnt say he was all good, that exactly must mean that he is not all good right

Until you or any other person here point out in the bible where he said he is all good, he remains good to the extent i ve seen in the bible. At least Jesus called him good. However if you have seen what counters mine in the bible pls show me. I'm just speaking to the extent i know. my submission and views are not final. I may be right and i may be wrong.

johnydon22:
so i make out to say that you mean God is not all good and all merciful... then why worship a being that claim to be holy but still yet not all good...

Bro its not you and me that will define whom God is, the bible contains all that we need to know about him thats why i told you earlier on that i look at God from what the bible said about his person. Thats also why i asked you if the bible said he is all good. Are you judging him from what pastor said about him or what you and other people think about him? Thats not it na. The bible had already told us his characteristics. As long as his actions corresponds with any of his attributes that are written in the bible then thats it.

johnydon22:
... if you say he is not all good then he is not holy, if you say he is not all merciful, then whats the point in all this shiii... no let other christians catch u saying God is not all holy and merciful... lmao cheesy grin

I know that God said he is Almighty but i ve not seen where he called himself all good. He said that his mercy endure forever, that is to say that mercy cannot cease to be his character forever but how he carries out his mercy is a different thing. I ve not heard him say that he is all merciful. Again being good does not mean holiness. Note that i'm not arguing God with you rather i'm pointing out what the bible said about him, i'm also open to whatever you point out in the bible about him. I'm not defending God like i said.

Misogynist2014:
You? Do you have proof that God doesn't exist?.

Bro ignore people who engage in foolish argument.

MzNelly:
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I advice you avoid people who come here to ask foolish questions or make foolish statements. Answer the Op as much as you can and ignore noise makers that will want to distract you from the issues at hand.

johnydon22:
so if God had another alternative hw wouldnt have sacrificed jesus... hmmm and i even thought he was all powerful. . .

I said no better alternative. Jesus was the highest and best sacrifice for our sins. He gave us the best. Hebrews 10;4 "For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats will take away sins".

johnydon22:
you are asking whether what i said is in the bible, are you by any chance trying to tell me he is not all good and all loving...

I asked because i ve not seen where he said he is all good and all loving but i ve seen where he said that he created evil and good. I have seen where he talked about his wrath, his love. His mercy etc. I ve also seen where we are told to give thanks in everything. But if you have seen where he said he is all good then let me know. Learning is a continuous process.

Job 2:10 says

shall we receive good [/b]at the hand of God, and shall we not receive [b]evil?

So what happens after this? Will she not grow old again. Will she live forever young? Nonsense.

hercules07:
You are asking the wrong questions, the question should be, why the heck do I care what Adam did, I am not related to him and I do not believe he is my ancestor, the stories in the bible are mostly fables garnished with some truths.

Says who?

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nobilis:
I'm waiting for the christians and Jews to tell you that the Supreme being isn't Allah but Yahweh

The major issue between christians and muslims is not about two different Gods but the true worship of God the creator. The Koran recognized Jesus as the prophet of God whom God has taken to heaven, also some other characters in the bible were mentioned in the Koran as God's people. Some biblical accounts are also recognized in the Koran. The case is not about different Gods pls.

Obviously this shows that the Koran copied the bible and made adjustments to it. The information in the Koran is second hand info because it came out many years after the bible so it cannot be trusted more than the bible which is the original. The Koran is simply the adulterated version of the bible. Original remains original.

johnydon22:
ok now i get it God's characteristics also includes demanding for blood before he can grant remission for sin... ok good one... he is all good and all loving indeed

As hard as it may sound bro, that's the truth. Hebrews 9:22 says it. Also If there was a better alternative, God wouldn't have sacrificed Jesus.

johnydon22:
.ok good one... he is all good and all loving indeed

Are you sure what you said here is in the bible?

johnydon22:
lol that same question i am asking... must he have a blood sacrifice before he can forgive and grant remission. . . so God must sacrifice his son to himself before he can grant humans remission... wow am loving it

Bros, when God himself declared that he changes not, what do you think he was saying? I'm not trying to defend God but I always try to look at him based on what he said about his person. Let's look at it this way:- you have your attributes or characteristics as a human being. Your creator also has his attributes and characteristics as God. Those attributes/characteristics of him are unchangeable hence what you are asking about must go the way it did. It just has to go in line with his attributes/characteristics. It may not sound pleasing to human ears but God will always operate in accordance with his person. That's the way I look at it.

davien:
Pity because for someone to believe a man could walk on water without being the tiniest bit skeptical,is very shocking.

Its more shocking for some people to look at this world and everything in it and still claim that there's no creator(God). Quite a pity.

oluferry:
Hot or not?


: http://oluferry..com/2014/12/toolz-o-shows-off-her-perfect-hour.html

I can only see a remix picture of barney here. Ugly version of barney for that matter. Barney will surely win her in a beauty contest.

davien:

plaetton:
Ahh.
Your myopia and short attention span prevented you from comprehending that I was merely using same rhetoric, same logic to ridicule the post I was responding to.

Carry your exlanation and park one side. Suffer your ridicule alone abeg. .

plaetton:
I am glad that you agree that it is a ridiculous statement.
That was the point I was trying to make.
Thank you.

Hahahaahahahaha see desperado. Hahahahaha. Thank you for accepting that you ridiculed yourself. Haahahahaha.