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If Christians claim that he died for ours sins why are Christians still sinners today?

@Mpele

@ Horus
Where did U get u're information! South Africa's unemployment rate is 24,9% which is normal for a top developing nation! Most people are now employed in the construction sector! Get your facts straight before U open your black mouth!

Educate yourself!!

The information that you provide are just global only for south africa. The information that I provided to you make a distinction between blacks and whites. What is your concern?. Is it not better to have informations that show you unemployment rate for blacks and compare it with the unemployment rate for whites?. Are you going to tell me that blacks and whites have the same unemployment rate?. This is not serious, if you are concerned about the well being of blacks you will try to look at the unemployment rate of blacks first, and then ask yourself the question of why the two groups have a different unemployment rate?. I dont give a Damn about whites. Now you are telling me to go and educate myself or all I did was to give you the difference between the unemployment rate of both races (black and white). What is your purpose here?. Are you not concerned about the well being of blacks?. So why are you not interrested to know the rate of unemployment rate of Blacks first. Your are giving us a global information information only in your statistic of unemployment rate for south africa. Where are the numbers of unemployment for black?. Why you didnt show them? Do you think that whites care about you?. F**k all whites south africans !!. The only person here on this forum with Imperialistic Tendencies Towards Africa is YOU. The statistics that I showed you come from a south african website and you are are here insulting blacks, and you seem even more racist than the whites when you are telling me to shut my black mouth (read your own insult in your own post). Is your mouth not black too?. You dont care about blacks this is why you use insults against blacks here. All I was trying to do is to give you some informations about blacks unemployment, at least I care about blacks. All you can do is attacking blacks and show YOUR imperialistic tendencies towards African on this forum. Get rid of the economic Apartheid FIRST in your country. Your are still economicaly under whites rule, so wake up and do something about it instead of coming here with arrogance.

This is the question that plagues the Bible. Christians know that their "god" killed more people. Anyone familiar with the scriptures will note that this "god" has no reservations about ordering the deaths of heathens. In the Old Testament he is not a God of Peace. Even the Laws of Moses, given to ensure man lives in harmony, includes death sentences for certain violations. The Flood is the most obtrusive example of his mass annihilation tactics for those who have strayed from his direction. The destruction of the cities of the plain is another. Furthermore, god's own actions are far from exemplary. He lies to Adam and Eve regarding the poisonous state of the apple and curses the serpent for telling Eve the truth about the apple. He approves of Noah's animal sacrifice after the flood because the burning flesh has a pleasing smell. He orders Abraham to sacrifice his son on an altar as a test of loyalty (although he stops the sacrifice just before it occurs). Certainly this would place an impact on a father-son relationship. Later in the Bible he torments Job to prove to Satan that Job is loyal to him and won't turn away. This is hardly admirable conduct from a divine being. We always have a way of justifying our misbehavior don't we. What better way to explain our aggressions against others, "its Gods word", or "its Gods will". The Old Testament is filled with admonitions from the God Jehovah to break down the walls of the city, pillage, loot, kill all the men, keep the virgins for yourself and on and on. The amazing thing is that to this very day, people flock to churches and admire the "God" who ordered the raping, looting, genocide and pillaging.

But how South Africa can have time for imperialistic tendencies towards Africa, when the unemployment rate for black South Africans is 41.2 percent, among the worst in all of Africa. White South Africans have an unemployment rate of 5.1 percent, among the best in the developed world. White settler colonialism in South Africa still exist, white settlers continue to control 87 percent of the land while African workers are forced to live in the squalid shantytowns.

And why not create and African economic unity?.

According to Isaiah 45:7 the Lord that you go to church and worship every Sunday created evil:

"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [things]."

There is news on the internet about a US swine flu spray plane shot down in China.

Why the christians on Nairaland are not puting any comments about Child Sex Abuse comited by their leaders.?

If you don’t control the industry, your development will be in the hands of the foreigners.

Only Nigerians should control the industry.

I think that it is very pessimistic to think that there isn't much that Nigerian bussinesses can do in South Africa. Nigerians should never have doubts about their capacity in the business sector. There is place in South Africa for Nigerian Import-Export businesses that can work hand in hand with importers, exporters, sellers, wholesalers, and sourcing services from all over Nigeria.

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This is just the tip of the iceberg. The Christian doctrine is nothing less than a license to commit crimes. It tells them they can commit every kind of despicable act and sin, even as Christian priests, continue to sexually molest young boys and girls, as long as they repent just before they die and believe that Jesus already took all their sins away when he died 2,000 years ago. So blatant is their attitude about child sex abuse and molestation that these priests have named their place of living and molestation as a 'seminary' and a 'rectory', alluding unashamedly to the rectum and the depositing of their semen.

BADLEE:
Are you saying that sin is what is controlling their wills ?

No, what I am saying is; Why they cannot use their "free will" to just stop doing sins.

The presidential fleet currently boasts of 8 aircraft – including three jets – but the types of the proposed purchases were not stated in the budget. The individual costs were also not stated, presumably because of state security secret.

Why 8 aircrafts for just one President?
I didnt get it yet. Any explanation?

Breaking News !!: Yar'adua  Successfully Resuscitated.

Christians do not seem to have free will, because they cannot stop doing sins.
Do you know a christian who stoped doing sins?
If christians have free will why they keep doing sins again and again?

Isaiah 40:22 - "It is HE that sitteth upon the CIRCLE of the Earth. . . "

Case closed.

No the Case is NOT Closed, because here the bible mean that the earth is a Flat Circle

Nellychari:
God was watching. God did everything to stop the war but the people choosed the war. Before the war, God had set before them life and death, and then asked them to choose life but they refused and choosed war instead. So don't ever blame God for this. God is not to be blamed.

Are you sure that your god did everything to stop the war?. So you are telling me that this god do not have free will too and the capacity to stop the war if he really wanted to?. Is this "god" a wimp?.
It seem that the situation was like this: And God said, let there be Fight and there was Fight

GOD EQUALS GHOST AND GOSPEL EQUALS GHOST SPELL

What most of our brothers and sisters do not do, is go into the etymological dictionary when looking up the roots of words. So when eye say, GOD MEANS GHOST, they say, “it doesn't mean that, that is just something your teacher made up” as eye have heard since my posting this 9 knowledge liberation information among my kith and kindred. Here, we will see the root of the word GOD and GOSPEL. As to show and prove that GOD=GHOST and GOSPEL= GHOST SPELL.

god
O.E. god "supreme being, deity," from P.Gmc. *guthan (cf. Du. god, Ger. Gott, O.N. guð, Goth. guþ), from PIE *ghut- "that which is invoked" (cf. Skt. huta- "invoked," an epithet of Indra), from root *gheu(e)- "to call, invoke." But some trace it to PIE *ghu-to- "poured," from root *gheu- "to pour, pour a libation" (source of Gk. khein "to pour," khoane "funnel" and khymos "juice;" also in the phrase khute gaia "poured earth," referring to a burial mound). "Given the Greek facts, the Germanic form may have referred in the first instance to the spirit immanent in a burial mound" [Watkins]. Cf. also Zeus. Not related to good. Originally neut. in Gmc., the gender shifted to masc. after the coming of Christianity. O.E. god was probably closer in sense to L. numen. A better word to translate deus might have been P.Gmc. *ansuz, but this was only used of the highest deities in the Gmc. religion, and not of foreign gods, and it was never used of the Christian God. It survives in Eng. mainly in the personal names beginning in Os-. [LIKE OSIRIS]


ghost
O.E. gast "soul, spirit, life, breath," from P.Gmc. *ghoizdoz (cf. O.S. gest, O.Fris. jest, M.Du. gheest, Ger. Geist "spirit, ghost", from PIE base *ghois- "to be excited, frightened" (cf. Skt. hedah "wrath;" Avestan zaesha- "horrible, frightful;" Goth. usgaisjan, O.E. gæstan "to frighten". This was the usual W.Gmc. word for "supernatural being," and the primary sense seems to have been connected to the idea of "to wound, tear, pull to pieces." The surviving O.E. senses, however, are in Christian writing, where it is used to render L. spiritus, a sense preserved in Holy Ghost. Modern sense of "disembodied spirit of a dead person" is attested from c.1385 and returns the word toward its ancient sense. Most IE words for "soul, spirit" also double with ref. to supernatural spirits. Many have a base sense of "appearance" (e.g. Gk. phantasma; Fr. spectre; Pol. widmo, from O.C.S. videti "to see;" O.E. scin, O.H.G. giskin, originally "appearance, apparition," related to O.E. scinan, O.H.G. skinan "to shine".


spell (n.)
"incantation, charm," O.E. spell "story, speech," from P.Gmc. *spellan (cf. O.N. spjall, O.H.G. spel, Goth. spill "report, discourse, tale;" Ger. Beispiel "example;" see spell (v.1)). Meaning "set of words with magical powers, incantation, charm" first recorded 1579. Spellbound is attested from 1799, from bound "fastened."
"The term 'spell' is generally used for magical procedures which cause harm, or force people to do something against their will -- unlike charms for healing, protection, etc." ["Oxford Dictionary of English Folklore"]

So here, we see undeniable evidence that the word God is Ghost. Every time you use it, as you can see by definition, you are “invoking” GHOST FORCES. As explained, this Ghost force is 3 Ether which is the death of 6 Ether as 6 Ether is the death of 9 Ether. In Nature, the Caucasian is the personification of this GHOSTATIONAL FORCE. So when you hear people saying “God help me” he/she is inadvertently conjuring up Ghost Forces. These Ghost forces are the death in the universe as explained in the earlier blogs. Every time you hear a 5%er says that “he is god”, he is possessing himself with these 6 Ether Forces. This makes the adherent of this doctrine sound silly to those who know their forces, those meaning Caucasians. So in that, one knows the nature of god by knowing the nature of Caucasians. And in their Holy book which is the book of the dead called the BIBLE, God does more destructiion than Satan. God lies to Adam and Eve in the garden, it is the first lie told in a book of many lies.

The etymological and original name of JESUS is GASES – CONSCIOUS FIRE GASES. In other words, Jesus is SIX ETHER, and was called Bal, Elyon, Marduk, Dagon, Bel, et cetera, in western Asia; Amen Ra, (not Re), Osiris, Harmachis, Horus, Sobek, et cetera, in Egipt; Sol, Jupiter, Zeus, Lord, Bacchus, et cetera, in Europe; Buddha, Krishna, Rama, et cetera, in other parts of Asia. Jesus (Leviathan) in its Moon, that is, Ghost manifestation is called Thoth Anubis, Hermes, Sin, Siva, God, Christ, et cetera.

Jesus (Six Ether) produces Ghost (God) and this is why it is written that Jesus is the way to God, because without Jesus to produce Ghost, meaning through worshiping this force named JESUS, there would be no god, meaning, there would be no GHOST SPIRIT to represent 3 Ether in this cycle on the Space Matter and Time circle that we are in now. Originally and spiritually, Jesus is the spirit creator of the Phoenician People and, physically, it is the Phoenician People – this is one reason why most Jews disclaim and reject Jesus.

Most other Caucasians accept Jesus because (1) They found out it produces Ghost and Ghost is their sustainer and creator (2) Jesus gave the other Caucasians a chance to get back at the Jews for refusting to share riches and universal knowledge with them (3) Jesus, (as Phoenician People or their spirit Six Ether) is not friend of Woolly-Haired People, and this is why Africa today above the Sahara Desert is mostly in the hands and control of people other than the Woolly-Haired Africans and (4) the man called Jesus was the saviour of the Caucasian Race, because they saw him as someone God had sent them as THE GOAT GOD (Pan) by whose sacrifice would keep Caucasians in ruling power by deflecting justice from the guilty until the end of the Moon Cycle. Therefore, Jesus is not friend of the Woolly-Haired ETHER UTOPIAN Race and the first major slave ship was called THE GOOD SHIP JESUS. So remember, everytime you say god or Jesus, you are opening up a vortex of all types of spirity beings to enter you and cause you to think in adverse to Nature knowledge and your own 9 Knowledge forces.


LET IT BE REMEMBERED ALWAYS, AND LET IT BE KNOWN! USE REASON!

GOD EQUALS GHOST AND GOSPEL EQUALS GHOST SPELL

What most of our brothers and sisters do not do, is go into the etymological dictionary when looking up the roots of words. So when eye say, GOD MEANS GHOST, they say, “it doesn't mean that, that is just something your teacher made up” as eye have heard since my posting this 9 knowledge liberation information among my kith and kindred. Here, we will see the root of the word GOD and GOSPEL. As to show and prove that GOD=GHOST and GOSPEL= GHOST SPELL.

god
O.E. god "supreme being, deity," from P.Gmc. *guthan (cf. Du. god, Ger. Gott, O.N. guð, Goth. guþ), from PIE *ghut- "that which is invoked" (cf. Skt. huta- "invoked," an epithet of Indra), from root *gheu(e)- "to call, invoke." But some trace it to PIE *ghu-to- "poured," from root *gheu- "to pour, pour a libation" (source of Gk. khein "to pour," khoane "funnel" and khymos "juice;" also in the phrase khute gaia "poured earth," referring to a burial mound). "Given the Greek facts, the Germanic form may have referred in the first instance to the spirit immanent in a burial mound" [Watkins]. Cf. also Zeus. Not related to good. Originally neut. in Gmc., the gender shifted to masc. after the coming of Christianity. O.E. god was probably closer in sense to L. numen. A better word to translate deus might have been P.Gmc. *ansuz, but this was only used of the highest deities in the Gmc. religion, and not of foreign gods, and it was never used of the Christian God. It survives in Eng. mainly in the personal names beginning in Os-. [LIKE OSIRIS]


ghost
O.E. gast "soul, spirit, life, breath," from P.Gmc. *ghoizdoz (cf. O.S. gest, O.Fris. jest, M.Du. gheest, Ger. Geist "spirit, ghost", from PIE base *ghois- "to be excited, frightened" (cf. Skt. hedah "wrath;" Avestan zaesha- "horrible, frightful;" Goth. usgaisjan, O.E. gæstan "to frighten". This was the usual W.Gmc. word for "supernatural being," and the primary sense seems to have been connected to the idea of "to wound, tear, pull to pieces." The surviving O.E. senses, however, are in Christian writing, where it is used to render L. spiritus, a sense preserved in Holy Ghost. Modern sense of "disembodied spirit of a dead person" is attested from c.1385 and returns the word toward its ancient sense. Most IE words for "soul, spirit" also double with ref. to supernatural spirits. Many have a base sense of "appearance" (e.g. Gk. phantasma; Fr. spectre; Pol. widmo, from O.C.S. videti "to see;" O.E. scin, O.H.G. giskin, originally "appearance, apparition," related to O.E. scinan, O.H.G. skinan "to shine".


spell (n.)
"incantation, charm," O.E. spell "story, speech," from P.Gmc. *spellan (cf. O.N. spjall, O.H.G. spel, Goth. spill "report, discourse, tale;" Ger. Beispiel "example;" see spell (v.1)). Meaning "set of words with magical powers, incantation, charm" first recorded 1579. Spellbound is attested from 1799, from bound "fastened."
"The term 'spell' is generally used for magical procedures which cause harm, or force people to do something against their will -- unlike charms for healing, protection, etc." ["Oxford Dictionary of English Folklore"]

So here, we see undeniable evidence that the word God is Ghost. Every time you use it, as you can see by definition, you are “invoking” GHOST FORCES. As explained, this Ghost force is 3 Ether which is the death of 6 Ether as 6 Ether is the death of 9 Ether. In Nature, the Caucasian is the personification of this GHOSTATIONAL FORCE. So when you hear people saying “God help me” he/she is inadvertently conjuring up Ghost Forces. These Ghost forces are the death in the universe as explained in the earlier blogs. Every time you hear a 5%er says that “he is god”, he is possessing himself with these 6 Ether Forces. This makes the adherent of this doctrine sound silly to those who know their forces, those meaning Caucasians. So in that, one knows the nature of god by knowing the nature of Caucasians. And in their Holy book which is the book of the dead called the BIBLE, God does more destructiion than Satan. God lies to Adam and Eve in the garden, it is the first lie told in a book of many lies.

The etymological and original name of JESUS is GASES – CONSCIOUS FIRE GASES. In other words, Jesus is SIX ETHER, and was called Bal, Elyon, Marduk, Dagon, Bel, et cetera, in western Asia; Amen Ra, (not Re), Osiris, Harmachis, Horus, Sobek, et cetera, in Egipt; Sol, Jupiter, Zeus, Lord, Bacchus, et cetera, in Europe; Buddha, Krishna, Rama, et cetera, in other parts of Asia. Jesus (Leviathan) in its Moon, that is, Ghost manifestation is called Thoth Anubis, Hermes, Sin, Siva, God, Christ, et cetera.

Jesus (Six Ether) produces Ghost (God) and this is why it is written that Jesus is the way to God, because without Jesus to produce Ghost, meaning through worshiping this force named JESUS, there would be no god, meaning, there would be no GHOST SPIRIT to represent 3 Ether in this cycle on the Space Matter and Time circle that we are in now. Originally and spiritually, Jesus is the spirit creator of the Phoenician People and, physically, it is the Phoenician People – this is one reason why most Jews disclaim and reject Jesus.

Most other Caucasians accept Jesus because (1) They found out it produces Ghost and Ghost is their sustainer and creator (2) Jesus gave the other Caucasians a chance to get back at the Jews for refusting to share riches and universal knowledge with them (3) Jesus, (as Phoenician People or their spirit Six Ether) is not friend of Woolly-Haired People, and this is why Africa today above the Sahara Desert is mostly in the hands and control of people other than the Woolly-Haired Africans and (4) the man called Jesus was the saviour of the Caucasian Race, because they saw him as someone God had sent them as THE GOAT GOD (Pan) by whose sacrifice would keep Caucasians in ruling power by deflecting justice from the guilty until the end of the Moon Cycle. Therefore, Jesus is not friend of the Woolly-Haired ETHER UTOPIAN Race and the first major slave ship was called THE GOOD SHIP JESUS. So remember, everytime you say god or Jesus, you are opening up a vortex of all types of spirity beings to enter you and cause you to think in adverse to Nature knowledge and your own 9 Knowledge forces.


LET IT BE REMEMBERED ALWAYS, AND LET IT BE KNOWN! USE REASON!

Nellychari:
It is good to have an identity in life but many don't know about this. The man is a role model. Try to create your own identity and stop criticizing people. Be an actor in life not a commentator. I guess you are one of this mad atheists.

A man who gel his hair Cannot be a role model for African.
A man who gel his hair suffer from a lost of identity.

mikoas:
Hello friend,
I say good day to you.
I had been wondering since all these days for the level of corruption, injustice, murdering, kidnapping, etc in our great nation. Despite that churches are increasing daily, pastors were every where, vigil and many others spiritual activities are so on all the days, yet all these evils are increasing daily. What are the cause, what can we do to end these in order to re-brand Nigerian for the vision 20: 2020. Thanks for your quick reply.

Corruption is also in the church. Today churchs are business and your pastor is a businessman. Money is the concern, not the salvation of your soul.

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What about the trial of Georges Bush?
9/11 Was an Inside Job.

Atheists:
When over a million people died in a period of 100 days where was god ? Why didn't he protect them ?

This is a very good question that you are asking. But as you can see on this forum, stupid religious people are trying to find many reasons to avoid to answer your question.

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michelin89:
It's annoying when you are arguing with a Christian and they start to throw insults at you calling you all sort of names. What happened to their 10 commandments?

They are always rude, arrogant and extremely ignorant reason why they have to belittle you with their insults to win a debate.

Their 10 commandments have been replaced with their 10 sins

How will be called their new common currency?