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Christianity EtcRe: Counter: Pastor David Ibiyeomie Vs Kemi Olunloyo: Forgiveness Is Unnegotiable by hotwax(op): 10:37am On Apr 01, 2017
ScepticalPyrrho:
Fasterwell

Your presence is needed here.


Hotwax,

The bible actually implied that christians should be sitting ducks.

I'm sure you know it is the truth but christians have a way of cherry-picking what part of the bible suits their egoistic morals.

Bible attests that jesus was beaten, stabbed, and crucified without putting up a fight.

Mathew 5:39; "But now I tell you: Do not ta revenge on someone who wrongs you. If anyone slaps you on the right cheeks, let him slap the left too." GNB

There's no way you can twist this without being an hypocrite.
Guy...there is difference between revenge and survival.

Prayer can't stop Kemi Olunloyo, action will stop her. You have to perform action to survive.

The pastor is not revenging.

Its a case of the devil working against a ministry of God.
Christianity EtcRe: Counter: Pastor David Ibiyeomie Vs Kemi Olunloyo: Forgiveness Is Unnegotiable by hotwax(op): 10:33am On Apr 01, 2017
ScepticalPyrrho:
Why are you bring hypocritical about this.

Are the bible teachings meant for Olunloyo or christians?

Do you mean your pastor is playing god because Olunloyo didn't beg for forgiveness.

Is she the one who should obey this passage or the christians?

The bible reference was a teaching of christ instructing his followers(not Olunloyo) on how to pray.

Except you think your the pastor is perfect and shouldn't pray for forgiveness as instructed by the bible.
When you said your Lord's prayer, you ask God to forgive you your sin, just the way you forgive others.

Why are u asking God for forgiveness? Why can't you ignore God and say its your responsibility to forgive whenever I sin against you.

For that fact that you are praying for forgiveness means you actually know you are a sinner.

The big question now is:

Does Kemi Olunloyo know she has sinned or offended anyone? No. She is unrepentant.

Dont you understand the meaning of Lords prayer? Its a complete prayer.
Christianity EtcRe: Counter: Pastor David Ibiyeomie Vs Kemi Olunloyo: Forgiveness Is Unnegotiable by hotwax(op): 9:03am On Apr 01, 2017
Danhumprey:
Mtcheeewww! make una continue countering unaself and making Christianity look like a horrible joke of a religion. isn't worrying that Christianity is divided instead of united, with different opposing views?
Christianity is not like Islam that some people teach you what they think is right and you obey it without doing your own research. Thats why I love christianity.
Christianity EtcRe: Counter: Pastor David Ibiyeomie Vs Kemi Olunloyo: Forgiveness Is Unnegotiable by hotwax(op): 9:02am On Apr 01, 2017
ise82:
The pastor is dumb. He's has made the lady popular thru his actions. By their fruits you shall know them. Fake pastors everywhere God will expose them all.

Kemi is great already. God bless her!
Making popular or not, Kemi is already popular negatively. People know what she is made of when it comes to negative journalism.

The pastor is just putting her in her place.

The so-called powerful online blogger that can destroy anyone online is cooling off in prison. She is really popular
Christianity EtcRe: Counter: Pastor David Ibiyeomie Vs Kemi Olunloyo: Forgiveness Is Unnegotiable by hotwax(op): 8:59am On Apr 01, 2017
psucc:
Op. you absolutely have know idea of what to write. Whenever you say the Lord's Prayer, do you actually took time to meditate on this line ". . . forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us..."

If you do, you would've understood that nothing or no strings are attached to forgiveness.

The Pastor should look inward into his own life and the profession he holds.
"forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us..."

That line shows you are actually asking for forgiveness from God. Is Kemi Olunloyo asking for forgiveness.

I guess thats why people are dumping christianity lately. Lack of knowledge
Christianity EtcCounter: Pastor David Ibiyeomie Vs Kemi Olunloyo: Forgiveness Is Unnegotiable by hotwax(op): 8:29am On Apr 01, 2017
This is counter thread to "Pastor David Ibiyeomie Vs Kemi Olunloyo: Forgiveness Is Unnegotiable"

I first read through the post and decided to ignore the post, but I couldn't. This ignorance will continue until someone starts speaking up.

Although I have replied the post, but I want it to be more than that.

The writer claimed the pastor should forgive Kemi Olunloyo even though Kemi is unrepentant, and given any opportunity she will still attack him with unverified fake allegation.

The bible does not teach christians to be sitting duck for the devil to use as target practice.

Jesus made sure he died for the whole world, he was trying to pass a message, he wanted his death to pure, thats why he told peter not fight and he told God to forgive them, because they know not what they are doing. Its not that Jesus decided to be a sitting duck.

You can call yourself a christian now because Christianity still exists. Our Christian forefather fought with sword to preserve christianity. That is why when Ottoman Jihadi force came close to invading Rome, Romans did not play chicken in the name of forgiveness and allow Jihadis take over Rome. The momen they take over Rome, christianity will be wiped out of the world. Rome was the last strong hold of Christianity.

Romans made right the decision to fight and thats why we still have christianity today. Thats not all, Christian don't chicken out when they face the devil, thats why we have exorcism. This is to let you know we are not to forgive the devil.

But modern day liberal financial christianity has eroded all these and thats why Islam is taking over Europe.

The bible did not ask us to be cowards in the face of adversary. If your adversary repents you can forgive. If your enemy pursuing your life still wants to kill you, you run or defend yourself. Forgiveness has nothing do with survival.

Prayer and forgiveness will not stop Kemi Olunloyo, action will stop. The pastor has taken an action. He should not be blamed for that.

Its not against the bible for a church to fight a case in the court. E.g. someone attempting to steal a land belonging to your church. You dont sit and pray, you call the police and head to court.

Christians are reading the bible without common sense and knowledge.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Snake, Grass Cutter And Antelope Killed By A Small Boy & His Brother (Pics) by hotwax: 4:52pm On Mar 28, 2017
ARe they living in a jungle?
CelebritiesRe: Why My Mother Apologize To Apostle Suleman -stephanie Otobo by hotwax: 1:55pm On Mar 28, 2017
She is sounding desperate by the day.

You claimed your mother was arrested and threatened ...

The money they gave u will soon finish.
ProgrammingRe: I Want To Create A Malware (spyware) by hotwax: 12:03pm On Mar 28, 2017
I can help u target any windows version.

I write system apps.
PoliticsRe: Name Four Best Performing Governors In Nigeria by hotwax: 1:28pm On Mar 27, 2017
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SportsRe: MTN, Super Sports TV, Big Church Foundation Support Kick Against Rape Football by hotwax: 9:54am On Mar 27, 2017
Olosho United
RomanceRe: "Nigerian Girls Are Not Worth Your Time" -twitter User by hotwax: 7:52am On Mar 27, 2017
Its true. I enjoyed my stay in Kenya...Those kenyan girls are out of this planet.

Then I came back to Nigeria and Gosh those boring Nigerian girls again.
CrimeRe: Man Murdered By Armed Robbers At Buruku Lagos Road (Graphic Photos) by hotwax: 11:19pm On Mar 23, 2017
This is not an armed robber attack, this is a police shooting. He might be stopped by the police to collect rebate on the food he carried.

Police are desperate when it comes to collecting bribes on food trucks. He was shot by the police. Wetin concern armed robbers with pepper ?
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CelebritiesRe: Actress Rosaline Meurer Shows Off Hot Figure In New Photos by hotwax: 1:16pm On Mar 16, 2017
Oh boy...see pomo...My third leg feels like swimming.
PoliticsRe: Ife Clash: Afenifere, OPC Kick Against One-sided Arrest by hotwax: 12:30pm On Mar 16, 2017
Dear Ife people. be prepared. Whenever Fulani/Hausa want to strike back, the SSS first make arrests to weakens you. They do this to ensure their militants face no resistance when striking.

Its the only trick they have in the book.

This is an indication that they are actually planning for a revenge.
PoliticsRe: Crisis Brews In Edo As Benin, Ijaw Youths Flaunt Placards Claiming Gelegele (pic by hotwax: 12:13pm On Mar 16, 2017
nonsobaba:
But d fact is dat afonjas were conquered by their fellow countrymen(fulanis) who also seized ilorin from them. Afonjas are cowards for ever. P*ssy a.ss grown-ups who begged for their lives as Dan Fodio's sword shone in the afternoon sun. Cowards who drank dirty water washed off d koran as their fulani masters ordered.
So what are you saying? Afonja people adopted Islam and joined Fulanis against their Oba.

Thats the power of Religion. Christianity also conquered Ondo resistant.

Grow a pair of brain. Islam ran over Ilorin just like Europe is now being taken over by muslims.

Does it mean powerful world powers like France, German that are becoming Islamic nations are weak?

Dont try too hard to be an illiterate.
PoliticsRe: Crisis Brews In Edo As Benin, Ijaw Youths Flaunt Placards Claiming Gelegele (pic by hotwax: 11:48am On Mar 16, 2017
YonkijiSappo:
Ehhn! don't say that again.
We are not their brothers... Not anymore.
I know Benins are always stabbing us at the back due to jealousy. But they still remain part of us.

You don't expect me to support Ijaw or Igbo over benin. Benin should have our back.
PoliticsRe: Ife Clash: Afenifere, OPC Kick Against One-sided Arrest by hotwax: 11:42am On Mar 16, 2017
If this is true, then its totally wrong.

You are giving Ife militias reason to kill more. You are going about arresting innocent people and you can't arrest NURTW and Ife militias.

You are creating a ground for a future war.

Remember Ife-Modakeke, Police and Military ran away.

You will soon run away
PoliticsRe: Crisis Brews In Edo As Benin, Ijaw Youths Flaunt Placards Claiming Gelegele (pic by hotwax: 11:35am On Mar 16, 2017
Go Benin. Yorubas your brothers are with you.

We are watching.
IslamRe: 2 Christian Ladies From Imo Convert To Islam (Photos) by hotwax: 11:26am On Mar 16, 2017
Money speaking. Muslims can spend money sha.
RomanceRe: At The Sight Of n1pples My Heart Skips Why? pics by hotwax: 10:41am On Mar 15, 2017
You are sick...its psychiatric
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Believe Stephanie Otobo Is Lying Against Apostle Sulieman by hotwax: 10:12am On Mar 15, 2017
She claimed to have bank log in UBA.

The money came into her account right?

Let her request for her statement of account and show us the entries showing transfer from Suleman.

I refuse to believe all these media image marshing.

I know what media are capable of.

I have learnt my lessons from Donald Trump and maionstream media.

Do not let anyone brainwash you.
Christianity EtcRe: ​Stephanie Otobo Holds An Interview With TVC News, Exposes Apostle Suleman More by hotwax: 10:08am On Mar 15, 2017
She claimed she is a musician. I went to youtube to watch her music videos. Meeen those are not musinc, those are incantation.

She is not a musician...She is a scam.
AgricultureRe: Fresh Tomatoes Arrive Lagos From Kano By Train After 58 Years. See Photos by hotwax: 9:34am On Mar 15, 2017
MoltenMagma:
Call them _aboki, call them animals, call them worreva but we need them. It shows that every section of the country is important and should not be underrated. Truth
Lets shut up. They are liability. Every land in Nigeria can grow rice and tomato. Northerners have access to Agriculture loan more than the rest of the country. Buhari made sure of that.

Let the north break away, all other tribes can grow tomoatoe. Enough of this hype.
PoliticsRe: Buhari Signs Treaty On Establishment Of Abidjan-Lagos Corridor by hotwax: 3:37pm On Mar 14, 2017
This will Benefit Yoruba nation further.

Yorubas are known to have many relatives in Abidjan
Christianity EtcRe: Muslim Lawyer Faults Apostle Suleman's Media Trial, Raises 10 Posers by hotwax: 8:36am On Mar 14, 2017
solid3:
This lawyer is an attention seeker.
Christianity EtcRe: Queen Esther, An Usher: "Apostle Suleman And I Were In Sexual Relationship" by hotwax: 7:36pm On Mar 12, 2017
Just because of speaking out against Fulanis?
CrimeRe: Fleeing Hausas Lament On Ile Ife's Massacre "Only Our People Lost Their Lives" by hotwax: 1:02pm On Mar 12, 2017
jamislaw:
40 Heardsmen is enough to finish Ife
You mean Enugu, the cattle grazing land...LOL

Those 40 fulanis are killing them in Enugu like Suya meat. LOL

Prayer and fasting tribe
CrimeRe: Fleeing Hausas Lament On Ile Ife's Massacre "Only Our People Lost Their Lives" by hotwax: 12:58pm On Mar 12, 2017
I will tell you this. If you treat Hausa/Fulanis with Jelly arm, they will intensify their massacre. Give them fire for fire, they will seek for peace.

Same happened in Ede, Osun state years back. Thats when I knew Fulanis are not invincible and fearful as people put them.

Ede Youths weap their bumbum. They cam back to beg for peace.

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