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UniportAgbero:
Maybe we can link up one day.

no problem

UniportAgbero:
Health Centre Road, just opp Nellyville

What about you?

I have an apartment in choba close to the Genesis at that choba road.
and I also stay at iwofe too

Toju200:
yes that's it....
I've been doing some comparisons..And I've been more similarities of a sarplaninac sherpherd than a Caucasian. He's less furier than a Caucasian He's not chubby like a Caucasian. He's coat pattern and type is that of a sarplaninac sherpherd...

if we should go into dogs that resemble the Caucasian Shepherd you'll see that the variety is too much for you to pick sarplaninac as the next probable breed your dog is,
there's the Armenian gampr, karst Shepherd, some European shepherds e.t.c

you actually can't tell without a DNA test, the similarities are so close, most times mere looking at the dog isn't enough.
one thing you need to know is that not every Caucasian is chubby or hairy, the Caucasian Shepherd comes in different sizes,colours and forms.
some don't have black masks, some are small, some have very short coats e.t.c
the one's you see being imported by most kennels are selected for appearance, don't think because a Caucasian doesn't look like them it's not pure bred or it's not a Caucasian.
even in the countries they order them from you'll see various variations but they mostly select the type we see most times.

sarplaninacs are mostly found in the U.S, Greece, Romania and the sar mountains. what are the chances spark's ancestors were imported from those countries and not Russia (which is where most Caucasians come from)?

you actually can't tell by just looking at pictures,and judging a 6 month old dog

Toju200:
Good afternoon hux...
So during the week I was doing some research and I discovered spark isn't a Caucasian,but a breed very similar to it.. Something spla....!!! I don't really know how to spell em.
And also at 5-6 months spark is already breaking chains I need a very strong type of Leash.Chains can't hold him again.Two chains now has been broken by him...

Has anyone's dog behaved like this

you mean sarplaninac Shepherd?
what makes you think so?

UniportAgbero:
Choba.

I'm trying to work on his temperament. Exposing him more to the things he fears. So his fears can be allayed.

aah which side?
you're really close to me

UniportAgbero:
I feed them diamond puppy, pedigree canned food, meat, fish meal, and dry food. The eat very well and I also give them multivitamins everyday to improve their appetite.

Medusa is straight up stubborn, like very stubborn while Zeus is aggressive but more loyal than her. My issue is Zeus fears a lot. I try to socialize them with people but whenever anyone yells at Zeus, he scampers. I don’t let strangers play with them so they don’t get used to it.
I really don’t know how to get him to be more courageous and brave.

they're nice, you need to work on Zeus's temperament tho, his aggression and fear isn't a good combo, if it goes unchecked it can lead to problems.
which side of PH do you stay?

[quote author=Pawsdogaffair post=85643285][/quote]nobody is misleading anyone, it's simply not possible to train an 8 month old Caucasian to behave like how he wants in 3 weeks.
and "a dog is not a dog" different breeds have different response speeds. which is why "trainability" is a section in list of breed traits.
Caucasian Shepherds are naturally stubborn and harder to train, it's a fact.
I've never seen any dog trainer,breeder or owner both online and in real life describe the Caucasian as an easily trainable or obedient dog, it takes more to train one and
ask anybody that owns a Caucasian and a gsd,Mali or dobberman which one responds faster to commands and you'll see the difference
and about what I said about them being stubborn no matter how well trained they are, that's also very true, sometimes they ignore commands they usually respond to when they feel like or obey the command from the person they see as the alpha and ignore the person they feel they are superior to.
even when well trained, some of them still show signs of stubbornness and dominance sometimes.
it's just how they usually are
you can compare their trainability score with other dogs, it's a well known fact

Eveezy:
A quality Gamebred male pitbull available in Benin. Pup was bred by Obeda.

When I say game, he is really game.

Contact me on 07052172800

how did you gamebreed a puppy?
stop using that word anyhow, gamebred doesn't mean quality dog

a Caucasian Shepherd is bigger in size and height than a cane corso.
it can take down wolves so a cane corso shouldn't be much of a problem.
either the Caucasian would win in a fight or if the cane corso is very determined, it'll end in a draw.
it depends on the individual dog, but if we're talking strength the Caucasian is stronger.
don't judge strength based on whether the dog has fur or how mean the dog's face looks.
I've seen caucs showcase their strength doing things cane corsos cannot do.

you guys are making me fall in love with the boerbel breed more

vincentjk:
Sad truth, the reason coomore farm dogs keep improving due to their temperament and looks.

You've heard of coomore dogs (a kinda boerboel bloodline know for it's traditional working ability)?

Check this out https://www.voofla.com/XX/Unknown/474137272664730/Coomore-Farm-Dogs

I just checked it,the work they're doing is nice

vincentjk:
I'm certain he does, mike doesn't look like an overfed boerboel staying indoors all day (they are commonly found in boerboel Facebook groups)

He's a working dog so he should posses some cool temperament as well

that's actually my favorite thing about him, he looks natural.
some huge BB you see are so massive with supplement enhanced muscles and fat but they cannot work anymore, they just become basically show dogs.

jl115:
Mikes around 80kg now.... Thus fully grown I expect him to be around 85kg-90kg

wow please tell us when you appraise him I'd love to know his score, how's his temperament like?
hope he reps his breed well

jl115:
In terms of weight vs age is where i think its an exaggeration, you don't want a 180 pound Boerboel at 13 months, simply because of the weight on the joints.

it's possible tho right? that's why it's on the chart, it's not an average weight, it's more of an exaggerated estimate after 12 months because of the way some dogs grow.
anywaaays....
how much does mike weigh right now?, I'm guessing that guy should be over 170lbs.
have you estimated his full weight when he's fully grown?

jl115:
Definitely possible yes, Afrika Sakabuka( I posted photos of him on the previous page) is to my knowledge the heaviest BB ever appraised in SA at 238lbs, however he was still perfectly balanced, lean and agile!

wow that's huge.
one thing I've noticed is that growth charts usually go off as the months advance because I feel at that point you can say factors can make a dog bigger than usual.
I usually don't follow them after the puppy stage, it's best not to get worked up about it

jl115:
However I totally disagree with the bolded, There is no reason a boerboel shouldn't weigh more than 176lbs IF he is Balanced and still able to work!

sure, what I meant was that it's rare to find on an average not that it's an abomination or something lol.
BBs have weighed more than that

jl115:
Mike was over 70 lbs at 4 Months.....however that weight chart still isn't correct, the weights for from 12 months and up are to heavy to be that of a boerboel.

you'll struggle to find a boerboel that weighs 180 pounds at 13 months

that's rare but possible you know?
odi in SA weighed 230lbs

jl115:
Mike was over 70 lbs at 4 Months.....however that weight chart still isn't correct, the weights for males from 12 months and up are to heavy to be that of a boerboel

obviously they're too heavy, they're exaggerated, a BB shouldn't pass 176lbs.
they're not exact figures

vincentjk:
60lbs at 4months of age for males?? Isn't that kinda too much?
How do you weigh roscoe? Btw

you can use any scale that can carry his weight to weigh him, some vets have scales for that.

I wasn't able to weigh Roscoe till he was about 10months, when I finally took him there we found out the scale was high from the ground (it was the type you have to lift the dog on top to weigh), nobody could lift him so I just left it, I just use my discretion to check his weight now

vincentjk:
60lbs at 4months of age for males?? Isn't that kinda too much?
How do you weigh roscoe? Btw

it's in pounds not kg you know?
60lbs is just 27kg
an adult BB surpasses 150lbs-170lbs sometimes so 60lbs at 4-5 months isn't far fetched.
he'll be over 2x his current size in adulthood so do the math, see how it makes sense?
besides, the chart doesn't really mean your dog must weigh that figure, it's just an average,more like the maximum it should weigh.
its exagerrated most times,a lot of dogs never reach that weight
some dogs weigh lower some weigh higher, some follow the chart some slow down at some point due to either genetics,malnourishment e.t.c.
if your pup is around that weight then he's healthy, if he passes it then he's obese, if he's far from it then he's underweight.
just like that

jl115:
I don't believe this weight chart is 100% correct imo!! and is definitely NOT an official Boerboel weight chart.Looks more like an English Mastiff weight chart to me

lol no it's the boerbel chart, the English mastiff chart was also there.
you can see the title there

vincentjk:
Nice information, Thanks goodness augusto isn't looking fat, obese or too heavy either

that's what I was trying to tell you when I was saying Augusto's weight is good for his age and the mass will come later.
if Augusto should have his adult mass right now he'll be limping or his legs will be shaking while he's walking, his joints will just be a mess.
just feed him well and let him grow naturally, you'll notice the mass increase when he's older.
large-giant breed dogs shouldn't be bulky like adults as puppies, it's very bad for them, although it also doesn't mean your dog should be underweight too.. there's an estimated recommended weight per age and sex for each breed.

here's the official BB weight chart in case you want to monitor his weight

vincentjk:
I8 months, really?? At what age do they attain their peak growth?

2-3 years in mass 18 months in height

MyChoice1:
I decided to try keeping a dog after following this thread, I wanted to buy foreign breed but the price and upkeep made me rethink since this is my first time of ever keeping a dog in my life. When we were kids a mad dog from nowhere bite my kid bro and my family spent a lot on treatment, since then all of us had phobia for dogs. But this thread brought out a hidden passion for this animal within me. I had to buy a local breed to try my hands on taking care of dog right from puppy stage. Amazingly, the experience turned out great. Even my kids were so fond of her.
She's almost two years before giving birth to 4 lovely puppies on 4th Dec.2019 to the excitement of all of us in the family. But we noticed that her appetite went down, only drinks lots of water. Multivitamin was given to her but not much improvement was seen. But she still breastfed her puppies. The worst part of the whole thing was that we were to travel for the Christmas, we had to keep them in the custody of a neighbour, he has dogs too. One day he sent message that the mother was found dead! So he took the puppies. That they were strong. Within the following week, we came back with the excitement of retrieving the puppies from him, but alas, he said 3 of them couldn't make it, and the remaining one died that morning we were to collect them! The feeling was really devastating to all of us...from having 5 dogs to ground zero just within 2wks! Where do we start from again?

sorry for your loss
giving your sick dog and 4 puppies to your neighbour and travelling for Christmas wasn't a smart move...she needed urgent care and the puppies were still young and still being breastfed by a sick mother.
even after she died, there were things that could have been done to keep them alive without a mother since they were in fragile condition.
it's a sad thing to experience, I'm sorry just try to learn from your mistakes and push on.

she's a beautiful dog

jln115:
Mike's grandfather:

Groenberg Rambo(92%) he is also the father of the legendary Middelpos Alpha(97.8%)

Once again you can see the condition and balance of these dogs

this is incredible

Spanishmilf:
Appraised

and these boerbels are south African and the appraisal was done in SA
they are not Nigerian and they are the world's highest, did you really expect Mike to compete with the world's highest appraised?

besides, mikes parents scored 86and 87, that's really impressive and mike is predicted to score higher.
the difference isn't that much

Spanishmilf:
BB dey

let's feed a fully grown mike bullymax and let me snap him you'll see how he'll look compared to these ones.
they are all impressive boerbels I don't get why the argument of better Boerbels is going on

Spanishmilf:
Appraised

bro you know a lot of the dogs you posted aren't that much bigger than Mike?
camera angles and zooming helped a lot of those dogs, if mike was photographed like them he'd appear bigger too.
Mike's pics are just of him having fun at a beach, these one's are advertisements of the dogs, definitely the advert pics will be more impressive.
the one's that are bigger are most likely older than him.

Nigeria has dogs better than Mike for sure but they aren't that much, if mike was in Nigeria he'd be a big deal too, they are all amazing Boerbels

lilbarracuda:
what if I decide not to take the pup for medical owing to the fact that the environment is parvovirus free and not other dogs around let's say a new site

over to you bosses

don't ever consider this, always vaccinate your pups, the risk is not worth taking

[quote author=Spanishmilf post=85554377][/quote]lol please this dog isn't up to 2x Mike's weight or height.
the dog is obviously older than Mike too but the size difference isn't much, don't let zooming and cropping fool you.
mike is one of the best boerbels I've seen, I don't see where the argument is, sure there are dogs better than him in Nigeria but they aren't plenty enough for us to act like mike isn't amazing

jln115:
Took my boy to the beach today:

beautiful