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Greatihex:
i still stand my ground and wl continue to preach it that kdb was afraid of competition. That is why he ran away.

If martial is afraid of competition, he would have ran away during the summer. Bt, look at him nw fighting strongly 4 the shirt. Anyday that rashford bleeps up nw, he wl grab it final.
If kdb had stayed to the end of the season, or gone on loan, he would hv by nw cemented his place in the team if he had worked harder and improved like he has done. Since schurrle nd willian hv proven to be average players.

Nobody cn tel me otherwise abt kdb's journey at chelsea. I was alive.

You have no point. Stop comparing apples with oranges. You are probing the depths of inanity with your foolish comparisons.

Martial makes 40 appearances per season and has ample opportunity to stake his claim. De Bruyne was treated like an academy player and given 3 EPL appearances in half a season. Why should the best young player in Germany return to Chelsea and subject himself to treatment that is more akin to the likes of Ola Aina or some youth player. DeBruyne at that point was better than Martial is now, and was already Belgiums main man even over Hazard. You think he is one small boy that would come and sacrifice his career for political hogwash like he is some youth player that should be waiting for injury crisis before he can play.

You never watched DeBruyne in Germany, and saw DeBruyne in Chelsea and thought you are dealing with some Ola Aina youth here to be happy to play 1 or 2 games a season and wait for his chance, that's why you are yarning opata. Anyone who saw DeBruyne week in, week out in Germany knows that was the equivalent of sending Dele Alli to Real Madrid only to treat him like some 17 year old academy player. Someone who just outshined Gundogan, Gotze, Kroos etc that were running UCL that year. You must have knocked your head.

There is no way Debruyne will make the same amount of appearances as Martial does and will not be crowned the best AM at Chelsea. This is equivalent to Paul Pogba situation at Manure where they would rather call Paul Scholes back from retirement than allow him play. He knows he is better than all Manure midfielders and there is a game being played, so its better he bounces.

Greatihex:
Pls, i am nt sure abt kdb winning d official motm against hull.

Everytime KDB started a match, he was a crack.

Maybe you attended training sessions to form opinion that he wasn't good enough?

We have simply told you that KDB was sacrificed for the midfield being weak and for bigger names. Jose was not supplied with a functioning midfield so had to patch-patch the last wing position and play a workhorse that can cover the midfields deficiencies ie Willian or Schurrle.

I am sure about KDB winning MOTM against Hull. No one can tell me KDB did not show enough at Chelsea.

Greatihex:
Mourinho did not remember politics when he gave KDB first two starts of the season ahead of a more expensive schurrle and an established mata?

This is where we caught your lie.

You came here to type trash about KDB flopping at Chelsea, then in the same sentence told us that KDB made assist in the 1st match JM gave him. Not only did he make assist but he was voted MOTM. And in his 2nd match, he also did well. After that he was not handed start again. So when we tell you it is politics, you can take that to the bank.

You made a rubbish post about KDB flopping at Chelsea to fit your 2017 Hazard vs KDB argument that has nothing to do with the reality of how KDB played in 2013 so sensible people have to pull your card on it.

As for the other stuff you typed about JM not playing politics, let Lukaku go 5 matches with no goal and see whether Rashford will pick no9 shirt, then come back and talk about politics.

KDB was the best player on the pitch with the little opportunity he was given in 2013. Don't come here to tell us lies to fit your other arguments.

Greatihex:
After a successful loan spell in the Bundesliga with Werder Bremen, De Bruyne was linked with a move to stay in Germany with either Borussia Dortmund or Bayer Leverkusen . Incoming manager José Mourinho , however, assured De Bruyne he was a part of Chelsea's plan for the future, and the player officially returned to Chelsea on 1 July 2013. [30]
De Bruyne injured a knee while scoring his first goal for Chelsea, in a pre- season friendly game against a Malaysia XI, [31]but was fit to make his competitive debut on the opening day of the 2013–14 Premier League season against Hull City , and made an assist for the first goal in a 2–0 win. [32]





If Mourinho wanted to play politics with KDB, the above wouldn't have happened.

So you are showing KDB actually did well in the 2 opportunities he was given? Yes KDB was presented with the MOTM in his first game. In his 2nd game, he performed brilliantly at Old Trafford. How does this relate to your assertion that KDB flopped at Chelsea?

At the start of that season, Mata was injured and Willian wasn't signed till deadline day. JM was also starting Schurrle as a striker. In the space created by these absences, KDB grabbed his opportunity with BOTH HANDS, but the politics of the situation is that Willian was bought for £32m (not by JM) on deadline day, and KDB was returned to the place always designed for him which was to be squad fodder. Intelligent people will recall minutae detail of past events and will tell the full story, not some average intelligence bloke that will come telling us stories in 2017 of events that are beyond his recollection.

Greatihex:
whenever this KDB's issue comes up, the only thing you bring up is politics. Something that has no proof.

Why did politics not chase hazard, schurrle, willian and co out.

KDB like many other Chelsea young players over the years had the potential (just like musonda now) but thought he should be starting when he has done nothing to prove that he deserves it. Oga, if you are good, you are good, no politics can stop a good player from playing.

Hazard came to Chelsea and immediately hit the ground running. No kind of politics would have stopped hazard from playing.

I will just ask you these questions and I will end this issue ever.

If KDB had hit the ground running like rashford had done at United, would Mourinho had benched him to test schurrle and willian?

If Mourinho played politics on KDB's issue, why did he start him for Chelsea's first matches of the season?

If KDB had not started well at Manchester city, would pellegrini have benched him for an alternative or not?

Was Mourinho playing politics with mhkitaryan when he started out to bench him last season?

Was conte playing politics with fabregas when he was benching him last season?

Oga Ibime please answer the following sincerely.

You are talking nonsense. Rashford hit the ground running and JM brought in big names like Ibra and Lukaku to replace him. If JM had brought Solanke to replace him, will that go down well with the fans?

In football, there is something called status. Hazard came in with £32m of status, an investment to be protected. If Hazard had come through youth system, he will definitely chop bench while the club seek returns om their £25m players. It's the same reason why Torres £50m was being protected at the expense of Sturridge and Lukaku who came in for peanuts.

You typing nonsense about hit the ground running. If KDB was bought from Germany for £25m instead of being a loan returnee, no politics will be played with him. KDB first match he won MOTM providing a sumptuous assist, 2nd match he played well at Old Trafford. . . . and that was it. Did you expect him to score 2 hattricks to prove he has hit the ground running?

If you did not how to watch football in 2013, you should kindly shut up in 2017. KDB did exactly what those who know football know he will do from the minute he left Chelsea.

airmark:
I blame mourinho for selling kdb. However, lampard defended mou for the sale, saying kdb wasn't as good as he is now. What you gon say about that?

What do you expect Lampard to say about his mentor? What would Gary Neville say about Sir Alex concerning Pogba in the same regard? Pundits are there to smooth things over.

In 2013, DeBruyne was already better than any U-23 player in Germany. Any other yarns na politics.

elrony:
Uncle Ibime Have you blamed Mourinho today?

E remain diggz !

If you check closely, my criticism of Mourinho is limited and more weighted to Emenalo. I am an old school Chelsea fan who doesn't criticise JM readily. My memory is longer than that. I supported the move to kick out Mata cos I was never a fan of his, though I woulda prolly done it with KDB and to hell with Oscars profile and the media backlash. The other two points I made are what most managers would do if handed the same squad.

cstr1000:
No matter how you want to play it, it all bores down to Mou.
KDB is a special talent. I already knew it right away.
What Mou or any decent manager should have done was to include a buy-back clause after he went to wolfsbug. Even if it means Overpaying, it would have been worth it.

Conte would have managed the situation much better. I am certain of that.

Greatihex and anyone who liked his post are fools. Just because they did not know how to watch football in 2013 does not mean some of us didn't. KDB arrived here as YPOTY in Germany, rated higher than the likes of Draxler, Kroos, Gotze, Alaba etc. He arrived a top footballer and left a top footballer. He started 2 EPL games for Chelsea only of which he was MOTM in one, the other a good performance in a creditable draw away at Manure. What drove KDB out was politics and poor squad planning just like Lukaku and Sturridge. If KDB was bought for €35m he would have been treated fairly. The 3 political issues that drove KDB out of Chelsea were

1.) Mourinho was trying to get rid of a club legend Mata and needed a star name like Oscar to do it. Mourinho already set the political play in motion before season start by saying "Brazil no 10 is my no 10". It was pure politics. KDB did not have a big enough profile to be used for such political play.

2.) The club pursued Emenalo policy of buying too many £20m+ wingers. A manager is immediately under pressure to protect such assets and justify the club purchase of those players. There were 6 wingers/AMs competing for 3 positions. Whether you like it or not, your price tage determines the consideration you are given in such scenario. Now consider that Hazard is already locked in and Oscar is already locked in because of the political play with Mata. That leaves 4 players competing for 1 position (Mata, Willian, Schurrle and KDB), of which JM has to keep the fans onside by giving some minutes to club legend Mata even if he doesn't want to start him

3.) The final reason was partly political and partly tactical. The club had pursued a policy of understaffing the midfield due to Emenalos favouritism of Mikel and Ramires. In such a situation, JMs 3rd AM had to be Willian so that his workrate can help balance a midfield unfit for purpose. Willian became the chosen 3rd AM due to deficiencies on other parts of the team ie midfield which further squeezed out Debruyne.


Those who know how to watch football knew Debruyne was a crack player. Me and Nateevs have been raving about him before he returned to Chelsea and anticipating his return. I already had him as one of my favourite AM back then. Debruyne was a star in Germany before he returned and he was a star again the minute he left Chelsea. Greatihex is just typing nonsense to suit his argument. That summer he left Chelsea, Debruyne was one of the best players at the World Cup.

Below is one of only 2 EPL games Debruyne started at Chelsea. He was doing the exact same things he is doing now, the exact same things he did the season before that had him crowned best young player in Germany, a league that was crawling with the worlds best young talent. If you say Debruyne did not know how to play ball in 2013, then you are a newcomer to football.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcVLtUigc7Y

Arsene Mugabe

I've been regretting since the day I sold Morata in FPL

PDPGuy:
Yes, he is left-footed, according to his club coach. He can even play as a CM, right back, and a winger.

See versatility!

I'm just catching up on his history now. The guy na confirmed player according to all the Russian websites. They are surprised he never got called up for Russia sef.

I see say one Dutch guy even got called up for RB today. Naija defence done turn to real United Nations

EvilMetahuman:
do you speak russian?

No but the speed the guy dey take speak am, you go know say he be native

Just found out them born that Brian Idowu for Russia sef. No wonder the guy Russian dey flow like native.

Come see Naija man (Brian Idowu) dey speak Russian like say dem born am there.

FBS, is that you?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BgZxo77wpY

PDPGuy:
Yes o

Idowu is a natural LB. And you’re right, Echiejile no dey go World Cup because the two LBs will surely be Idowu and Aina.

Are you sure he is left footed? He took that goal so well with his right foot.

I found out he has been playing Russian topflight since 2012. If so, what have we been doing with Echiejile all this while?

Anyway, I think Rohr will still take all 4 of Shehu, Aina, Idowu and Elderson cos Ainas natural position is still rightback and he will be backup to Shehu on the right if Idowu takes the LB position.

I just enter youtube go catch highlights now. Nice play by Iheanacho and Iwobi. That last goal by Iwobi too sweet. Abeg make Rohr go beg Enyeama sha, we can't be taking this kain keeper to world cup.

bakynes:
Mumu am talking of his accommodation and Maintenance. Can't you see where he said he is depending on friends for food and shelter.

Mumu someone is talking of school fees you are talking nonsense. The guy already said he is working the maximum allowed 20 hrs per week and you are opening your mouth to yarn opata. Have you ever lived abroad? Which accomodation and living expenses will 20 hrs a week of unskilled labour purchase? Mumu.

bakynes:
Na Laziness dey worry this one, UK wey work plenty, wey Citizens no fit do put will fetch you good money at least they gave them 20hrs/week to work. My own time I work as I was schooling and I made good money and also made a good result.

My friend shut up. Did you ever have to find £24k to pay 2 years school fee outstanding? Can 20 hrs/week get you anywhere near £24k?

When asked about not being selected by Didier Deschamps, Bakayoko told French broadcaster Canal+: “I’m disappointed.

“I feel [Adrien] Rabiot, Kante, [Blaise] Matuidi, [Corentin] Tolisso are not better than me.

raumdeuter:
Sprint towards the 5th page. You don kukuma get excuse this year. Blame it on CFA exams

You wey dey below me get mouth?

Nihilist:
Usually ipukulu warriors. I've not seen his team on the first page this season so I don't know if he's still in the game.

He also has a previous history of deactivating so there's that...

I dey kampke on 2nd page. Sifan Hassan tactics, I only sprint on the last lap.

No WC for Ivory Coast. Morocco flogged them 2-0 in Abidjan. Blood of Drogba.

Egypt, Tunisia and Morocco all qualify, only Naija and Senegal representing subsahara.

nateevs:
Two young players leave the club and within 5 months, they get a National Team call-up. Yet some of us still hold the notion that the youth are not good enough.

Make that 3 cos Chalobah got called up as well to the last squad

odizeey:
how can i get it.

I'm sure exams can be sat in Nigeria cos many Nigerians have it. Just go through the CFA website. Its 3 exams - June every year you can write one exam only, although you can write the first exam in December. You'll need 300 hours revision time to dedicate plus £1.2k fee for each exam. They only pass the top 40% of people in each exam so it's something you have to be totally ready for.

Elnino4ladies:
I can't believe we won champions league with this team.

Jose Bosingwa, the best centreback the Camp Nou ever saw.

odizeey:
bros chartered financial analyst right?

Yessir

raumdeuter:
It should be easier for you with a mathematics background than even those with just accounting backgrounds because there are many calculus involved

You done do am before? Regardless of background, there is plenty left to do in a short time. Only time can defeat me cos Im trying to fit a 6 month process into like 7 weeks.

raumdeuter:
All the best in your CFA exams. Is this the first level?

Yes oh, I was due to start last year but the baby took too much time off my hands. Even this one I booked quite late cos I wasn't sure I would have the time commitment. I have to find maybe 150 hours of revision time between now and Dec 2nd.

raumdeuter:
ibime see all these sexy mails winking at you? MatheMATIC

I have not been too active online for the last month due to CFA exams upcoming, and everyone on this thread confessed with their own eyes that Bakayoko is an awful midfielder without Ibime on his matter every game.

The whole threads opinion on Bakayoko the last month must have bruised Nihilist into this level of desperation to be pulling up articles on Mikhitaryan that has nothing to do with nothing.

It is not by force to win argument. One cannot force an opinion down grown mens throat that they can see with their own two eyes.

Let Bakayoko speak for himself on the pitch. I will never support a wastepipe in Chelsea team just because I was foolish enough to compare him Yaya Toure when wiser, more experienced people had warned that he is a wastepipe.

West Ham fans already want David Moyes sacked. Kai, e no go better for them this season.

PDPGuy:
Emenalo has reigned!!

Ibime, where are you? It’s time to pop champagne

I have not had issue with Emenalo these last two years, but I will never forgive him for signing everyone but replacement for Mikel and Ramires in 2012 and 2013.

Emenalo must have finally fallen out with Marina. Fall out with Conte will never be enough for him to leave cos even Conte is not committed long term as shown by his refusal to extend his contract.

Raumdeuter abeg what is your view on Texas shooting vis-a-vis 2nd amendment rights.