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I'm supporting Pep for one day only today. He must beat Spurs or get a draw last last please.

iambabaG:
Wawu..!!
I have my reservations but why will a highly placed man deny his own children access to proper education?
I guess the saying is true afterall.. you can take a man out of the gutter but not the gutter out of the man.
#SavageBeast

This is in Borno. The guy is Boko Haram.

[quote author= post=52992746]“We have a zero-sub mindset. People are struggling over things that they shouldn’t be struggling for[/quote]The phrase is Zero- Sum mindset in reference to Game Theory.

I dey wonder whether our Journalists for Naija go school at all.

Someone is talking about Game Theory, you are writing about Mortal Kombat. Zero-Sub ko! Sub-Zero ni!

Kagawa10:
He still chose to play Abidal etc and brought in the no nonsense defensive player, Mascherano. He also signed Vidal at Bayern.

Of course yes, he loves his defenders to be good on the ball but that doesn't mean they should be abject without it.

TBH, he specialised more in ninny ballerina defenders like Chygrinski

Kagawa10:
And yes, it's Pep's fault for failing to bring in the needed qualities and wasting resources on Stones, Sane etc but it's not his fault that the team is looking as shite as they are!

That's all that need be said but it's his fault the team are looking this shyte because Pellegrini never looked this shyte and because he was confirmed back in January and he has total control of transfers.

He had no problem with his defence so far he got John Stones and sent Mangala away. He thought it was a walk in the park till EPL gave him a rude awakening.

If he had issues with his defence, he wouldn't be focusing on signing Xavi as Goalkeeper as his utmost prority. Goodmorning Fraudiola!

Kagawa10:
All you've admitted is the fact that City's defence is quite poor! On top that, add a midfield of ageing Yaya and the crock, Gundogan and tell me if that should be a team aiming for the title! You already have your answer!

That is a team that has aimed for the title every year since 2011.

Pep had since January to upgrade and even with £67m spent on upgrade, he has made it even worse.

Who do you want me to blame for that? Ernest Shonekan, Pius Anyim Pius or Pep Guardiola?

raumdeuter:
That means City had no full back options under 30. Not to talk of Navas Toure etc

Was Stones and Bravo there when City was conceding the highest amount of goals among the top 4 for 2 seasons back to back?

City was conceding more than Van Gaal in the 2 seasons

I am sure it was Pep's making

Van Gaal was known for tight defence. Their problem was too many 0-0 draws.

I have told you to stop worrying about Pellegrini who comfortably achieved what Pep is finding harder than JAMB question

Kagawa10:
Nope!

Kompany played 13 league games last season (1/3 of City's league matches) and with him, City only lost 2 games and had 9 clean sheets in his 13 games played! Without him, City lost 8 games and kept only 7 clean sheets in 26 matches.

So, don't tell me it was Pep's announcement that cropped in those goals, it was their woeful defence without Kompany to help them out. It was even worse to the extent that Kompany had to play as soon as he was available without giving him enough time to recuperate! They had no win against all the teams that finished top 6 in the league last season to show how awful they were yet you're telling me nonsense?

Whether you like it or not, I've never rated Kolarov, Clichy even when they were young, so what are you going to do about it now that they are a lot older? Anyone who consistently watched Epl matches would know these players are accidents waiting to happen!

You guys need to get your argument straight cos Ayamnotunderstanding.

Kompany is a centreback. The areas you are complaining of old age is at fullback.

Actually I agree with you because 90% of phuckups I see in City defence are from Otamendi and Stones.

So I don't know what Kolarov and Sagna and their age have to do with this.

If Pep like, he should go and replace Kolarov and Sagna and leave Stones and Otamendi as 1st choice. We will see whether they are not bullied to shege next season with 22 year old fullbacks playing beside them.

raumdeuter:
The 2 full backs are old

Where Spurs have Walker-Rose, Bellerin-Monreal, Valencia-Shaw, Clyne-Milner

City has Sagna, Zabaleta, Gibbs Kolarov all over 30

Only two fullbacks play at a time, and only their rightsided full back is old just like Philip Lahm was at Bayern. Infact, that Senegalese boy Sagna is the oldest yet the fittest of then all.

Try another one.

His main problem is Stones, Otamendi and the basket he bought in goal, never mind fullbacks. He thought this is Barca where you could get away with playing centrebacks that can't defend. This is not a place where you play Mascherano, Busquets, Song in defence.

diggz:
Ibime when last you visit manU thread? Bcuz you just enter one chance Molue with no brakes.

I no see any mentions. Wetin dey shele?

raumdeuter:
Pellegrini qualified comfortably with goals aggregates. Ibime these loss of memory is getting acute

Pellegrini qualified with a game to spare.

raumdeuter:
When Lahm won the world cup he played most of the games as a midfielder because he doesnt have the legs to bomb the flanks

You mentioned Valenica, Milner Monreal and Cahill

Tell us how many over 30 are in the Chelsea 11 or Liverpool 11 or Spurs 11 or Arsenal 11 and compare with CIty

City's defence is

Kolarov - 31
Otamendi - 28
Stones - 22
Zabaleta - 32

Yeah, that's really old. Try another one.

raumdeuter:
They bought Mangala and Otamendi yet they still had the worst defence among the top 4 teams in England. Or was this Pep that made City concede the most goals last season?

Pellegrini comfortably qualified City for UCL every season and competed for title most seasons. Pellegrini is the least of your worries. Worry about why Pep is making it look like rocket science, something Pellegrini did with slippers on.

Kagawa10:
Pep was also there when City's defence without Kompany always looked abject with the same defenders under Pelle?

Come up with something else!

Whether you believe they've deteriorated or not, they are basically average set of players who are now old!

Kompany missed virtually all of last season and Pelle was competing for title until Peps arrival was announced. Last last he still made UCL with game to spare.

Pep is making that look like rocket science despite being giving the opportunity to improve the defence, for which he chose to sign John Stones.

You can claim 31 is deterioration age all you want, but that is not the truth. Philip Lahm is 33 years old now. I wonder why he wasn't deteriorated just because Pep was winning. He was the same age as Kolarov/Clichy when he won world cup.

Deterioration is just your crutch to excuse Pep. All these guys are agemate with Antonio Valencia, James Milner, Monreal, Gary Cahill etc

raumdeuter:
Ivanovic was 31 this time last season when you swore he was the reason Chelsea defence was bad

Clichy and Kolarov are full backs where pace and fitness is highly needed

Ivanovic was 27/28 in 2012 when I started telling niggas he is a weak link in Chelsea. Nateevs also. He can testify. It is nothing to do with age. He does not have the tools for fullback, he is a centreback. Ivanovic was no slower or unfit at 31 than 28. Anyone that target Ivanovic would roast him even when he was 25 but teams did not clock on till Moreno roasted him at Swansea. Go and ask Arda Turan the instructions Simeone gave him about Ivanovic in 2012 Supercup. The rãping he gave Ivanovic that day was not funny. Even Simeone came out and said he targetted Ivanovic as Chelseas weakest link.

You guys cannot change modern science to suit Pep. 31 is not an age of decline for a modern footballer. It is at 33 onward that we start to see decline these days. Sagna was one of the best RB at Euros. He did not drink otapiapia between July and August and decline overnight.

When Kolarov was making 100 passes per game and dominating possession at season start, all we were hearing is how Pep has improved him. Now wey yawa done gas, we are hearing of decline. . . at 31 years old, an age where most defenders are gearing up for their best season ever.

Kagawa10:
You also forgot the part that Terry and Ivanovic were actually solid players before their decline, now compare that to Kolarov, Clichy who were actually average players before even deteriorating further!

Clichy and Kolarov have not deteriorated. They are 31.

A defenders peak age is from 28-32.

They have not deteriorated. Pep is just making them look worse.

Kagawa10:
Lmao!

City finished 4th, same point as United and guess what? United added some quality into the team, even Chelsea improved their sluggish midfield with Kante, brought in Luiz, Alonso and re-invented Azpi's role who's like a new signing!

Pray tell which Pep's signings has improved the team? None!

Logic should point that a team which finished 4th with no improvement while other made a lot of improvement to their team will even do much more worse than it did in the previous season!

And let me ask you this, was Yaya not already declining under Pellegrini? How about their defence always looking shite without Kompany, has that changed? Were the likes of Clichy, Kolarov, not looking average for years under Pelle? So what has changed?

Why the outrage when the same thing repeat itself under Pep? I won't even wish their defence on my enemy!

Whose fault is it that City did not improve after Pep spent £180m. Bill Gates?

FYI, the only reason City finished 4th last season was because City board rendered Pellegrini a lame duck by announcing Guardiola in January.

City were neck and neck with Leicester at the time, and were good enough to win the league, until the players gave up on Pellegrini after he was rendered powerless.

airmark:
With present city team, a sound coach would not be conceding goals to juveniles and losing 4-0 to everton, blaming it on the delayed coming of jesus and other flimsy excuses.

Kagawa10:
Until Conte backtracks and builds his success around Terry and Ivanovic, you aint saying anything!

Every Coach needs as much quality in his team even if he's an alien!

Terry was 34 and Ivanovic was 31 when JM used them to win league and put them in PFA team of the year.

Kolarov, Clichy and co just crossed 30. They are still in their prime for a defender. Pellegrini used em last season.

nateevs:
He reproduces it at two different clubs, wins over a dozen trophies while at it but somehow, you think he is wrong and you are right.


This is the part I really need someone to explain. Why do they think he is wrong? Because he chooses to do it the way you are not accustomed to?

What you are not getting is that he did not reproduce it at Bayern. Like Griffon stated, when he met technically superior teams in Madrid and Barca, his limitations were exposed and he was disgraced.

Actually, what he has proved rather is that he cannot do anything unless his players are majorly superior to the opposition.

Any manager can do that.

raumdeuter:
Basically speaking political language

I want to see how he will bring those factory jobs back. Anyway, we live in a post-truth world.

This Donald Trump speech na wa o.

I have never heard so many lies in Presidential speech before.

nateevs:
The bane of contention comes down to this. Regurgitated baseless opinion, being masked as fact, now settling into the consciousness of the ordinary football follower.

One will think that you were in the boardroom. Meanwhile, Nihilist posts a snippet from an article stating that Pep said in the past, that City needs 11 new players. However, your task will be easier if you chose to ignore this. And I understand. Afterall, having an opinion is easy. Having an informed opinion on the other hand. . . . .


I state again. I have no love for the guy but he is damn good at what he does. You want him to do it the way YOU THINK is best. My question is who are you to say so? You have not managed a footballer for one day and you are here criticising a fella who has won over a dozen trophies.

His employers are not complaining. Perhaps they are even waiting patiently to give him his own tools, you don't know. But you are taking Phensic and Alabukun for Headache that doesn't consign you. Weh done Sir!

You're the one taking panadol for Peps headache.

He inherited the best team, spent the most money and is performing worse than Pellegrini. Quit speaking English around it.

Allow us to mock qnd dance jare and quit being a ninny apologist for one season, and let us have our fun.

I'm even thinking of releasing remix of "After the tikitaka, play the blues" by season end.

It's gonna be pure mockery from now till season end.

Omoakinsuyi:
Timi is 45

freshkik:
Oga, timi was doing his basic/cert programme is uniport, before the music, & he was already quite mature for that level self @26/27 .... n besides you look antonio conte wey be 47, Timi be like who conte senior with only 2yrs?

Timi/Donald is a childhood friend. He is 36 exactly, not a day more or less.

Make them dey yarn nonsense about that Messiless Fraudiola. I told them never to compare real managers to someone who has never won with underdogs, and is always disgraced against superior teams.

£180m spent and some ninny apologists are still making excuses about "when he gets what he wants."

Oya take am. . . .


After the yanga wey dem make/ (dem make, dem make)
Talk say Pep go bring the change/ (the change, the change)
Pepi come dey look like fake/(like fake, like fake)
EPL done show him face/ (him face, him face)

180 million wey him spend/ (him spend, him spend)
Still he no fit fix defence/ (defence, defence)
But now crayfish e don dey bend/ (dey bend, dey bend)
Pepi shakara done end/ (done end, done end)

donjazet:
Many peeps have been undermining mourinhos successes with the tag cheque book manager despite his underdog triumphs, what the hell do we call this bald fraud? The fact that many of peps apostles agree that he has to spend at least another 100 million on his defense goes to show you who the cheque-book manager tag should be on.
You don't have to have the best players at all the positions! No!! You coach some to be better, you create a system that plays to their strength or you teach them to adapt to your system. Conte did that at juve, he is doing that at Chelsea, klop is doing that at Liverpool. I mean how do you concede four goals unreplied to a team that had 3 under 21s?? Holgate, Davies and look man
That is evidence of tactical inflexibility and shows his ineptitude in tactical changes and nuances.
Otamendi is not soo poor, kolarov is very decent and technical, stones just needs better guidance. City has a very rich squad and one of the most expensively assembled squad. FIND A SYSTEM THAT WORKS!!

Look at Chelsea, who could have thought Moses would be a very effective rightback? Or azpilicueta would be one of the best centrebacks despite his height? Or matic would also power a two man midfield despite being redundant in a 3 man midfield last season?

Look at Liverpool, who could have thought milner would be an effective left back, or firminho would effectively play the false 9 position? He has turned sluggish players like wijnaldum(spell check) and Anderson into power horses.
Goddammit pep, FIND THAT BALANCE!!! BE RESOURCEFUL!!! prove to your apostles that you are indeed the saviour of English football! No more excuses for these wobbles.

Let them keep making excuses for the chequebook manager.

Nateevs say he will not bend. . . . what doesn't bend must break.

nateevs:
What's hilarious about the whole saga is that this fella might have wholesale changes in the summer, have a rejuvenation, and completely walk the PL. What then will be the new argument?

That he is a chequebook manager who woulda been sacked in any other club long ago.

diggz:
Wait oh!!! Are we saying sagna,zabaleta,clichy and kolarov are right offs bcuz they are 30+?

They are only just 30 for the most part. Peak age for defenders is 28-32. No mind those excuses.

These are serviceable fullbacks for any other club.

How old are Antonio Valencia, Gary Cahill, Monreal sef?

SmartGate:
Truth be told, the mmm ideology is a very good one but a lot of mistakes was done which should be corrected immediately for the scheme to stand a chance. I don't even know if the suggestions of guilders are even considered for implementation on the system. If it is, then please relate these suggestions at your next meeting.

Instead of using your brain for something constructive, look at the utter waste of mental energy you are expending on MMM.

My friend, you cannot cheat numbers. Every ponzi scheme will eventually collapse as no economic value is created, just recycling of money.

raumdeuter:
Man city also need new players but you cant buy all at once, It has to be gradual

He was given £180m and went to buy 5 wingers (Sane, Nolito, Jesus, Moreno, Kapuztkis) and only 1 CM (Gundogan), 1 CB (Stones) and 1 basket (Bravo)

He was given the money and he failed.

Instead of strengthening the spine of his team, he was busy buying wingers to join Silva, Sterling, DeBruyne, Nasri and Navas he already found there. Is he Emenalo in disguise?