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raumdeuter:
Homesteady can you replace Terry with iniesta in this post and show this to Ibime

"UEFA and FIFA will take them into consideration and restate awards that 200 coaches voted on.

When we talk about Iniesta, we talk about Balon dor runner up, 6 times FIFPRO 11, 5 times UEFA 11, One time FIFA World Cup 11, 2 time Euro cup 11, Euro player of the tournament"

In comparison to Boateng, of course the fact that Boateng has not been nominated for any award after 5 years of making finals shows that Terry is the better player. Defenders are not AMs that we look for stats to check their contribution.

Iniesta though has many fraudulent awards. Compared to Alexander Hleb who has never won any award, he can flaunt those awards. Compared to likes of Xavi and Lampard who have won numerous awards and even rated higher than him in WPOTY, we will call out the fraudulent awards when we see them, like every award he won in 2012.

Terry is Iniesta in this case while awardless Boateng is Alexander Hleb.

raumdeuter:
The same Ibime that was hailing UEFA awards is now telling us they are irrelevant

Nope, I said if your team is winning like Boateng and you can't make nomination for UEFA, then you are crap.

It is only players that win or reach semifinals at least that get nominated for UEFA awards. If you are in semifinal or final every year like Boateng and cant get nominated, then you must be crap.

It doesn't mean there are no frauds in UEFA award like Iniesta or even David Luiz in one year like that.

homesteady:
Wow! You are not even worried that your sweetheart Lampard is not on the list! Is he that irrelevant?

Lampard was named EPL player of the decade. It is not by 6 games every 4 years that I judge players.

All I know is that Iniesta on that list is a fraud when Xavi has infinitely more contribution in Euros than him.

homesteady:
Are you asking me? See me see wahala!
You are the person that have refused to bow down to Don Iniesta greatness! So figure it out by yourself! I gave you a possible answer before, he is using Juju!

I have answered the question myself below:

There are those who get chosen as the face of a team, not for their individual contribution. Iniesta is one of those players ever since 2010 World Cup final. Iniesta was chosen as the face of the Spanish team not because he was even their best player. . . like Cannavaro in 2006

homesteady:
Mr Man shut the hell up! So Iniesta hype has infected millions of people around the globe, even people who live and breath football? You are the only person(I don't count those dogs following you upandan as people) that was wise and knowledgeable enough to resist the hype! Well-done, Mr Albert Einstein of football!

What did Iniesta do in 2012 to even put him in the top 3 Spanish players let alone EPOTY?

No league trophy, no UCL trophy, 5 goals and 10 assists for the season. . .and 1 assist in Euros group stages - that is the summary of his season.

This is actually one of the occasions Ronaldo genuinely got robbed because he scored 60+ goals, won La Liga and only exited Euro 2012 on penalties in the semifinal.

There are those who get chosen as the face of a team, not for their individual contribution. Iniesta is one of those players. Iniesta was chosen as the face of the Spanish team not because he was even their best player. . . like Cannavaro in 2006.

homesteady:
Oh well! Guess Who's on this list?
https://www.uefa.com/img/apps/Articles/Infographics/AlltimeEURO11list.jpg

Any alltime Euro 11 without Xavi who has 3 final assists but including Iniesta who has 16 appearances with no goal is a fraud.

homesteady:
Messi - 73 goals
Ronaldo - 60 goals
Lampard - leading Malouda and Ramirez to UCL glory
Iniesta - 1 assist in Euro 2012!

But guess what?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/805353_Iniester_jpge79db276602a1fdd587ff6a91d465bf9

Iniesta is truly a magician ohh!

This is the hype around Pius Eunuch Iniesta that we are talking about. Someone who was not in the top 3 Spanish players that year.

Wingback:


Just look at this, Teams recognize the importance of Iniesta that's why they mark him like Russian hit squads.

My friend sharrap. Show me his contribution in that final, you are showing me pics of Pius Ikedia dribbles.

Others are battling with stats and figures of real contributions, you are battling with pictures. This pic must be one of the holy artefacts in the cult of Iniesta, because one UP BARKA clown showed me this pic as evidence before so I showed the clown a pic of Hazard surrounded by 5 men also, as if na pic we go take chop.

Debroslink:
Iniesta

Euro 2008... Member of the all-star team

Euro 2012... Player of the tournament.

IFFHS Best Playmaker of the year 2012

How many matches did the Eunuch win for his team in all of these? Pius Iniesta.

Xavi assisted 3 goals in the 2008 and 2012 final(s) and several more over the tournament(s), David Silva the same. Pius Eunuch Iniesta was just dribbling himself.

elrony:
PRO of Up Barka movement,beating UTD twice doesn't make ya legendary AM less than a footballing eunuch!!!


As far as goals and Assists is involved Andreas Iniesta is a eunuch!

Pius Eunuch Iniesta!

Debroslink:
We are talking about impact, you are giving me useless stats.

Iniesta didn't depend on Messi, Eto'o, Henry, Suarez and Neymar to impact on the world stage.

Iniesta

16 European Championship matches, 0 goals.

Of course he wasn't relying on Messi and Suarez. He was relying on Villa, Xavi, Torres, Alonso, David Silva to actually win matches whilst dribbling himself like Pius Ikedia.

elrony:
How can you be an AM and not score a goal in almost a year?



Tufiakwa! !!!!!

When we say Iniesta will carry Chelsea to midtable as an AM, they think we are joking.

Do you think such impotence would be acceptable from an AM at any top club outside Barca where others are providing the telling difference?

Iniestas best bet if he come to Chelsea is to find a place in the deeplying midfield. Iniesta and the word AM have nothing to do with each other.

Debroslink:
We are talking Iniesta, you dey yarn Deco and Veron.

I said show me the impact of Lampard at Westham and England. Thank God for Abramovich's billions sha...

You must have been born feet first. Has Iniesta ever scored double digits in his life, something Lampard did twice at West Ham?

Lampard scored 14 goals in a season for West Ham, Iniesta born in silver spoon of Barcelona cannot even hit 10 in 12 years with Barca.

Lampard scored more goals at West Ham and before Abramovic than Iniesta has in his whole phucking career.

We know the difference between those who carry their team and the impotent Pius Ikedias who get carried to places by their team.

Debroslink:
Cover and surround Iniesta with Abramovich's billions, and Chelsea would have knocked out Liverpool on numerous occasion and won at least 3 UCL titles.

Abramovics billions yet playing with Malouda and Kalou while Iniesta was playing with Messi, Xavi, Ronaldinho, Eto, Alexis etc

No be only cover and surround with Abramovic billions, na with blood of Jesus.

The same thing that happened to Deco and Veron when covered with Abramovics billions is what would happen to Pius Iniesta.

Most of Abramovic millions were wasted on Shevchenko, Mutu, Crespo, Torres etc if you don't know. Na Malouda and Anelka dem wey Lampard dey win with.

Debroslink:
Iniesta in Chelsea colours, then Chelsea would have won all the 5 European finals plus club world cup with his wonderful displays and assists.

Chelsea would not even qualify with his average 3 goals and 10 assists per season.

chic2pimp:
I think He along with Pirlo had the most MOTM awards in the tournament so He must have done some good things to get the nod three times. I'll watch the games again though just for good measure.

My friend watch the games again.

When Xabi Alonso scored twice to defeat France 2-0 in QF, I don't know what contribution they thought Alonso brought to the table. He completed the most passes in the tourney, and had the telling end product to win that QF.

Semifinal was 0-0 with Portugal.

Final was 4-0 in which Xavi made 2 sumptuous assists and Pius Iniesta was just dribbling ole upandan with no assist.

David Silva also contributed to 5 goals (highest of the tournament) vs Iniestas sole assist in the group stage.

Player of the tournament was Pirlo, followed by Xavi, followed by Alonso. Iniestas name was just popular because of World Cup golden goal and Pius Ikedia dribbles.

If you rewind to Euro 2008, it was the same thing. Xavi copped all the assists throughout the tournament, including the final and was rightly honoured for it because Iniesta had not become popular from World Cup winning goal yet.

raumdeuter:
nd Iniesta quintupled Lampards goals in World cup finals

Last time I checked Iniesta only has 2 World Cup goals so I'm sure you mean doubled.

Iniesta 16 European Championship games, 0 goals

Lampard 4 European Championship games, 3 goals

Any number divided by zero is infinity.

Lampard infinitupled Iniesta Euro finals goals.

Chelseafan1:
like his new name, Pius Iniesta.

Imagine Pius Iniesta in a team like Chelsea all these years,na die we dey be dt.

Pius Iniesta contributing ZERO goals and ZERO assists in a team of Maloudas, Kalous and Joe Coles will lead Chelsea to relegation. FACT!

raumdeuter:
Iniesta in a CL quarter
https://giant.gfycat.com/SpectacularConcreteHorsechestnutleafminer.gif

Ineista in a CL semi
https://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/2699177/iniesta-goal-chelsea-o.gif

Yet Lampard has double his contribution in UCL Quarters and semis.

That PSG assist was his first goal or assist in 5 months of football and one of his only 4 assists and ZERO goals in a calendar year.

What better describes a Pius Ikedia than that?

Debroslink:
No one cares if you score 10 goals per match in group stage. If you cannot perform in big stage, you are nothing.

Fabregas has more goals than Xavi, Ozil has more assists than Xavi and Iniesta combined in Spain. However, both of them were sold because they disappeared in big games. Ozil was sold, and Madrid started winning continental titles.

A player's impact is known by his influence in the biggest games. Go to NBA and see how LeBron James was almost a nobody in regular season, but made the biggest impact in playoffs. He almost singlehandedly destroyed GSW in the best of 7 series final. Today, LeBron James is the face of NBA.

So it's an insult to pitch a player who has Zero assist in 5 major European finals with a Don who is a multiple MOTM winner in major competitions.

My friend sharrap.

Lampard UCL final that he played when he was 30, he scored.

When he was 34 and 35, he was leading Bosingwa and Ramires to finals with a team impotent Pius Iniesta can never dream of leading to anything. His last 4 European finals were played when he was 34 and 35 as a DM. When Iniesta is 34 and 35, he will be playing in Qatar.

Where was Iniesta when Lampard was doing all of these against Barca?

If it is to score one of your only 50 goals against Edson Braafheid and John Heitinga, you will be making noise.



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Chelseafan1:
It depends, end result of dribbling is to score goals, end result of goals is to win trophies eventually.
Hazard disgraced ur legends in an important final match to score a beautiful goal just like Iniesta dribbled to get an assist. No??

The end result of dribbling is to make goals and assists, which Pius Iniesta knows nothing about.

Pius Iniesta will be dribbling himself all over the pitch while his teammates are scoring and assisting to win matches, then he will be lucky enough to score in the final and take all the glory.

raumdeuter:
WHen I talk about the impact of obesity people think I am exxagerating, Is there a separate world cup for obese people? 1986 world cup final had 5 goals but to obese people 5 normal goals = 1 goal. Just like to obese people 5 normal meals = 1 meal

Actually what you meant to say was that for every goal Iniesta has scored, Lampard has scored 5 (actually more like 6)

1 Iniesta goal = 6 Lampard goals.

That is why Lampard has almost 3 times the amount of Iniesta goals in UCL knockout stages despite playing less games.

chic2pimp:
Well Imo Pirlo had the better tournament with Iniesta a very close second. However I have no problem with Iniesta being given the award. No let"s talk about Terry and his awards. Feel free to list them and tell me which ones were not deserved.

Iniesta was not any close 2nd.

Xavi was way above him in that tournament, as well as Xabi Alonso.

Check the QF vs France to see Alonsos contribution, and the final to see Xavis.

We saw Pirlos contribution in the semi against Germany.

Ask them to show you Iniestas contribution, they will tell you to watch some dribbles.

raumdeuter:
You can only beat whats in front of you. Those Koreans are the reasons Italy, Spain and Portugal went home early and Ballack did it for them

When Lampard faced COsta Ricans in 2014 world cup if he had the balls and clutch of Ballack maybe Engerland wont be home from group stage

In 2010 world cup why did Lampard not make this final vs Heitinga, Braafied and co? Lampard lost to a group of young players most with less than 10 caps each

Why did Lampard not make the Euro final in 2008? He couldnt qualify in a group of Russia, Estonia, Israel and Andorra. If you are looking for wastemen stats padders check with Lampard

Iniesta delivered in a world cup final, Lampard cant even make a semi

Lampard has twice as much UCL QF to Final goal contribution than Iniesta.

Lampard actually equalised against Germany in WC2010, and that goal was responsible for the introduction of goal line technology.

If it is to claim that one of the only 50 goals he scored in his career was in the World Cup final, then Iniesta must be God, like Lars Ricken who scored one of his few goals in UCL final, or Jorge Burruchaga the impotent Argentinian striker who scored the only goal of 1986 WC final.

raumdeuter:
World cup winning goal
[img]https://cdn1.lockerdome.com/uploads/5881357685497106_3f001241d9c0bdfc8b0127045a4c2d35f37fdd40900db661166fbe2d1a89d8fe_large[/img]
https://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/193/b/6/G_o_a_l_Andres_Iniesta_by_DaShiR.gif
Hidden Ikedia Hazard nko? show us his own World cup semi or CL semi goal or assist

Lampard nko? Show us his own

I'm sure Mario Gotze is saying the same thing after his teammates have produced all the end product to get him there.

World Cup or not, na still the 10 man team of luminaries like Edson Brafheid, John Heitinga and Joris Mathijsen that he is scoring against. That aint nothing, like Ballack scoring against Egg Foo Yung, Dim Sum Park and Pork Fried Rice at WC 2002 semifinal.

raumdeuter:
I am telling you in that team of Ballack and co Terry is the only weak spot that Hidden could have replaced if he can play defence.

What of Malouda, Kalou and Joe Cole who were starting wingers for many years?

Wingback:

Iniesta retains the ball better than many players in LA Liga, without him those assists and goals would never happen...SMH for all these chest beating thugs whom fail to realize Soccer is more than a one man circus.

I'm glad you know he retains the ball better than many, but not all. There are quite a few who retain the ball better than him.

Possession hogging, he is good, but not near the best.

Creating goals and assists, he is impotent.

If it is dribbling without end product, I'll give him that one. He is the GOD of it.

That is why he is Pius Iniesta.

homesteady:
How pathetic can you be!
After been caught barefaced lying, you still have the temerity to post trash!

How pathetic can YOU be telling us that Hazard has no end product to his dribbles yet proudly beating chest that Iniesta had ZERO goals and 4 assists in one calendar year, with ZERO assists in LaLiga. If we are crowning God of dribbling without end product, Iniesta would be first on the list.

Godstraight:
lol the question is how

Pull out their total club career goals and do the maths, lets see if your intelligence is limited only to arguing nonsense about religion.

Godstraight:
1.how does zidane has 125% more goals than iniesta

I didn't even know I was quoting Godstraight if not I wouldn't have bothered.

Sorry, I meant to say that Zidane has 150% more goals than Iniesta. I have corrected myself.

In Euro 2012, Spain scored 12 goals.

That means Pius Iniesta had 24 opportunities to have a goal or assist.

He only assisted one in the group stage.

Yet you see the worshippers hailing him claiming Euro final MOTM in a match he provided no assist, a match Xavi bossed and provided 2 assists in.

His teammates were working, providing vital end products to win games, he was dribbling himself all over the pitch.

Pius Iniesta.

Godstraight:
iniesta is s playmaker not a scorer,barca and spain depend on him to provide passes open up plays with his dribbles,link up other equally briallant teammates,his pitch perfect passing accuracy make him function legendary in his position, if he was flawed why didn't successful teams like Spain and Barcelona diss him,by the way how many goals did pirlo and zidane had during their careers?why am not hearing nairaland moguls and local champions ridicule them, riding along EPL populated sentiments that seem to reign here

We asked you to explain why Terry has more goals than Iniesta, you are rambling nonsense about him dribbling without end product like Pius Ikedia. You even went to call Pirlo (a DM) who has 50% more goals than him, and Zidane who has over 150% more goals than him.

Pius Iniesta.