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chelseabmw:
How come no one is talking about Kante?

Because we know what to expect from him. He played well, and his contribution is guaranteed.

lordfalcao:
Oscar is good.. The only thing I know he lacks is good passing technique and vision... He is a very much needed player.

You just don't like him that is it.

What more is there to talk about in the position he plays?

Add to that poor strength and poor ball control and what you have is a useless player. That's why the worst Brazil team in history have written him off completely.

pamcode:
How did Oscar get to this low point sef.

Oscar has always been able to shoot.

The Juventus game was just Christmas for him in that he had two headline grabbing shots.

He hasn't sunk. He was crap then and is crap now. Nothing has changed.

His shooting and crossing ability remains intact. Everything else that defines a midfielder, he doesn't have and has never had.

Nihilist:
– All previous Chelsea managers sought out to get the best out of John Terry hiding his weaknesses at various points. When he was an out-and-out English defender (his technical prowess developed very late, around when he was 29 actually), they paired him with technically and tactically intelligent defenders (Carvalho). Then, when he became that defender, they paired him with an older version of JT – Alex, Cahill etc. (Luiz being the exception).

The person who wrote this piece is clueless with his statement that JT only developed technique at 29.

I have been going to Stamford Bridge since 2000 and JT always had the best technique since back then.

A ninja that can bring down a long ball on his chest under pressure and ping a pinpoint left footed ball to another player.

JT has the best technique of any Chelsea defender in the last 20 years. There is a reason why JT was chosen to be on the left side of the centre backs and not Desailly, and that's because he is more comfortable on the ball.

Carvalho does not have technique comparable with JTs. He had the pace to cover and good technique himself, but not compared to JT.

raumdeuter:
How many people dey down? Can I stake my food stamp voucher?

Ibime oya put your lean money where your fat mouth is.

Werrey pataki the money you earned from pole dancing come stake it here.

Airmark shebi dem dey give you disability allowance as a retarded citizen oya come stake am

I don't gamble. . . and if I did, I would gather the most points like last season and take it all

lordfalcao:
"So I would have had very little playing time. Conte advised me to leave on loan

This is the talk of a player who knows who sent him on loan, not Nathan Ake who has never spoken to the manager, and who is guessing about whether the manager is speaking to the TD about him, meanwhile the manager is at Euro 2016.

Even Victorien Angban, Adrian and Kasey Palmer would like to believe the manager sanctioned their loan and is excited to watch how they develop. . . but the only person they ever spoke to is Emenalo.

There is one young Braxilian DM that Chelsea is reported to have bid £15m for and the guy doesn't even look half the player that Chalobah is.

Some people need to go for laser eye surgery.

Nihilist:
Admit it- Sterling is a 50m pounds of poopoo

Oscar should bring us £50m of poopoo. All money is money.

Sterling just had his worst season ever, his only truly awful season, and was still ahead of Oscar.

Oscar could not break into a team fighting relegation.

Nihilist:
That was that guy not me.

Sterling earned WHAT?

Are you flipping kidding me?

Well that guy was wrong and everyone who supported him.

I clearly said at the time that I can name 25 AMs under 23 that are better than Oscar.

They asked me to name just 10 or so and, I named Aaron Ramsey, Gotze, Draxler, Sterling and a few other names I forget. They just picked on Sterling and turned into another matter.

I wanted to name Coutinho and DeBruyne but I said lemme leave them out cos these niggas will argue that Oscar is benching them for Brazil and Chelsea.

But I clearly said there are 25 niggas better than him. I only chose the niggas I chose because they would find little room to manouvre as they were popping statistically and would leave those niggas little room to tell stories.

There is almost no decent AM I consider Oscar to be better than. Even right now, MVG is better than Oscar.

I'm not a Sterling superfan, they were the Oscar superfans. Sterling is only one of 25 ninjas I considered to be better than Oscar.

I told y'all ninjas back then that Oscar ain't shyte, and today he still ain't shyte.

I clearly won that argument hands down.

Nihilist:
I actually posited that day that Sterling was not better than Oscar...which is a #fact.

You were arguing that Sterling's transfer to City was proof of his godbody flow.

I can dig up the posts if you like.

Sterling earned his club £50m.

What has Oscar done for Chelsea?

I don't usually talk about Sterling except in relation to Oscar.

Na una claim say Oscar is in the top 5 under 23 players in the world. Sterling was just one of many names I threw out as being better.

nateevs:
From where I stand, there is no use for the Rahman loan. I don't believe he is going to be much better than he is right now, neither do I believe he will sell for a higher fee than we paid for him.

The loan is not a development loan. It is only Nihilist painting it that way.

The loan is strictly a "recover your money" loan with a buyout clause in it for Schalke, no doubt less than what we bought Rahman for.

It is a desperate attempt to claw some decent money back from a failed project, just like the Cuadrado and Salah loans were designed to do.

Up until yesterday, both clubs hadn't shaken hands on the loan with Chelsea still wanting an outright fee. They were so desperate to get rid, they allowed Baba to go and do medical with Schalke having not agreed whether it would be a loan or outright sale.

Nihilist:
What a diplomatic way to put it. Sterling will struggle for game time.

I no get power to talk too much today...all I can say Nihilist told you so.

Almost 700 days ago.

You ain't told me nothing. The ninja is still better than Oscar which was the debate.

I was told Oscar was top 5 Under-23 player in the world, and I said there are many ninjas better than him. I was asked to list players, and I listed them, of which you niggas picked Sterling to argue about.

I listed many others better, and would have listed many more, eg I wanted to list Coutinho, but I didn't want ninjas to sart argueing that why is Oscar ahead of Coutinho in Brazil NT.

It was you ninjas who claimed Oscar was a God at Under 23 level. I didn't claim anything about Sterling except that he is better than Oscar. . . . which he still is.

Nihilist:
LOL

You don start again.

What's up with Sterling? I heard Leroy Sane don sign for City too. With Nolito sef.

Golden boy Sterling

He go struggle for game time.

Still better than Oscar though.

nateevs:
Going by the minutes all players have had in the pre-season so far, it's safe to say that along with Baba, Mikel and Oscar will leave.

You mean all of Nihilists favourites are leaving?

Well Mikel ain't going nowhere. We have to endure that parasite for one more year. His Russian billionaire babymama is well settled in London and won't be taking her newborn twins to Erdogans Turkey which is a no go area for Russians. . . nor is she taking them all the way to China. Those are the only two countries that will entertain that parasite.

London is a lifestyle choice for Mikel, one which his brother Emenalo has helped him to maintain. That parasite is not your regular footballer that moves clubs in search of playing time.

Na Leicester Square he dey.

He get luck say I no jam am. Bullet for enter him head that day.

raumdeuter:
There is a Man Utd fan with tongue ring can you find a role for him too

Dopejemi, you see the kain insult Dayo just kposa you with now?

This cannot go unanswered o

Nihilist:
Of course I did and I even still said it last week. And I will say it again today. Baba is a better LB than Ake

But I did not give that as a reason to justify his loan. If we stick to the #facts, you will remember that my opinions on Baba vs Ake was tangential to the original discusion on whether Emenalo sent out Ake without Conte's approval or not.

Ok so I lied( ) about Lukaku, but it's still around the same ball park as the Baba fee which s what I was driving at anyway.

Aiite, you good my nigga.

I enjoyed the comedy show.

Nihilist:
baba was bought for 14m...which could rise to 22 in addons.

Lets stick to the facts only bruv.

That's more than everybody you named. How was Lukaku more expensive than him? Stick to facts.

One thing I agree with you is that Baba did not cost the full £22m because that is contingent on him making 100 appearances. . . and Baba is too utterly shyte to smell 100 appearances for Chelsea.


Now swear to God you didn't tell us Baba is better than Ake 4 weeks ago.

Nihilist:
We bought Courtois for just a few million less than Baba and loaned him out. Courtois aged 22 was on loan. Lukaku aged 22 was on loan and he cost more than baba. Victor Moses cost roughly around the same as Baba and was sent on loan at 22. Mo Salah cost roughly around the same price as Baba and was loaned out at 22.

Please how much was Baba bought?

I know the following:

Courtois - £7m
Lukaku - £13m
Victor Moses - £9m
Mo Salah - £11m

And Baba Rahman for £21.7m

So wetin the above come mean?

Nihilist: Ake loan is justified because Baba is better than him

4 weeks later. . . .


Nihilist: It is only right for Baba to go on loan because Azpi is better than him. Ola Aina can take the RB spot and can even play right-back (but Ake is not ready to get minutes )

Nihilist: Baba is a good player. Defensive side of the game doesn't matter.

Nihilist: Nobody can compete with Azpi on the left side. The nigga is just too good.

diggz:
Hope you realise azi is not known for his attacking prowess? He is known for not letting people pass him on the left flank. However, just because you desperately wanted to justify the shyyyytttie ghanianmans position in the team, you claimed defensive duties are secondary.

It's a good decision to send Ake on loan because he won't get minutes but Chalobah is already getting minutes in Ake's midfield position, and Ola Aina is getting minutes in Ake's fullback position.



How those LMFAO singers put am. . . .


Wiggle, Wiggle, Wiggle, Wiggle, Yeah!


This nigga sabi wiggle ehn


#factsonly

Nihilist:
This one isn't even up for debate.

Azpiliueta is our best left back. He has seen off competition from Ashley Cole, Felipe Luiz, Bertrand and now Baba. In pre-season, He has been playing at LB with Aina at RB, and this is despite the fact that Aina can play left back o.

As usual you would refuse to answer any question that threatens the Anti Emenalo narrative - Is Filipe Luiz as rubbish as Baba? Why did he not move Azpi to the right.

You're the one who keeps making things up bro.

We do facts only.

Facts.

Ivanovic had a good season on the right so no need for Felipe Luis to push him to the right.

Who do we have on the right this season?

Nihilist:
Your story is interesting of course, especially because it requires you disbelieve the words that came out of Nathan Ake's own mouth.

We are talking about football here, not a Jame's Hadley Chase novel. Your conspiracy theories put even The DaVinci Code to shame.

WT actual F?

Even IF we kept Ake to play at LB, he would have only been a backup player. Azpi is our best Left Back. Sadly he doesn't appear to be as good on the right meaning that the only open space right now is for right backs.

Baba has to play to get minutes. Ake has to play to get minutes. With Azpi around they WON'T get those minutes. That's just the fact. Even if you argue that Baba was rubbish, can you reasonably say without prejudice that Felipe Luis is rubbish as well? If Felipe Luiz cannot displace Azpi, or push him to the right, doesn't that tell you how good Azpilicueta actually is?

The only space available at LB is for a benchwarmer, a left back equivalent of Mikel, someone who is willing to just stagnate on the bench for most of the season and be content with a couple of run outs a year. That's just the simple fact. And the club is unwilling to waste neither Baba nor Ake in that position.

Facts only

I have already showed that Ake has not spoken to Conte, and the only communication he had was with Emenalo.

I showed that Ake knows nothing about whether Conte sanctioned his move or not, Ake said he BELIEVES Emenalo will speak to Conte.

No need rehashing the old argument.


Please tell us who is Chelsea's current right back, Chelsea's current left back and their back-ups, and stop telling us stories.

When Ake was sent on loan, you told us it's because Baba is better.

Now Baba has been discarded, you are telling us it's because Azpi is better, and we only need a Mikel at left-back



Keep making it up as you go along.

As you keep digging, your hole is getting bigger!

Baba Rahman, a £22m signing needs to go on loan to get minutes.

Nathan Ake, who proved himself last season also needs to go on loan and get minutes.

Do we have to spend another £20m on a leftback as backup to Azpi? Great logic there!

Azpi who incidentally is also needed at rightback in the absence of a decent rightback?

Nihilist the more you keep talking, the less sense you keep making. Sometimes you just have to sit back and take the L. . . .


The Real Story is this. . . .

As reported last season, some Chelsea board members are starting to question Emenalo, pointing to the fact his last two big money signings (Cuadrado and Rahman) have been mega flops. You should have seen how touchy Emenalo got when questioned on Cuadrado last season.

A TD is judged on his signings. If you make too many big money duds, you eventually lose your job.

Emenalo tried to play a fast one to park Nathan Ake away from Chelsea, to give his big money signing Baba Rahman ample opportunity to recover his value, so he doesn't look bad.

What Emenalo didn't reckon with is that Baba Rahman is utter shyte, and it only took 2 weeks for Conte to figure it out and spoil his plans.

In the meantime, the club have lost the use of Ake, who could have either served as back-up to Azpi, or potentially taken the position himself, allowing Azpi to take the rightback position.

That is the story, simple and plain. Emenalo strikes again.

Baba is a car crash footballer.

You watch him and wince, and hide your eyes behind your hand.

How anyone can see anything good in that clown is beyond me.

Nihilist:
This is just giving a dog a bad name to hang it.

The same Conte that sent Baba away on loan is the same guy that sent Ake away on loan.

Ake went away to go and learn his trade at central midfield. He is not a leftback.

Nathan Ake: "I can play in different positions. I like to get on the ball defensively play hard, with tackles and things like that,"

"I think I am a holding midfielder, when I came to Chelsea I played as a centre back but then was told I was too small. So I changed to left back and then to midfield, I’ve been going around in circles! But last year I played left back, although my preferred position is holding midfield."

Eddie Howe(Bournmouth Manager): "He was used predominantly at left-back by Watford and also played for them at centre-back. His favoured position is as a central midfielder."

Nathan Ake on Conte: "To get an eye on how I cope, I think he[Conte] wants to see me play a season there[Midfield] in the Premier League," Ake said.

"The manager has been in discussions with the technical director (Michael Emenalo) at Chelsea. After this season, we'll see how I get on,

This is what happens when facts direct from the horse's mouth are not allowed to get in the way of a popular narrative.

No need rehashing what we've already been through.

Emenalo na big phuck up.

A former leftback wey no fit scout leftbacks. Incompetence is his middle name.

afrodoc2:
....if you are waiting for this "22 year old" Ghanaman to get better as he approaches his "peak" you are on a long thing.

lol. . . the keyword being Ghanaman

Sergio Ramos caught on camera discussing with Costa after the Real Madrid game.

"Why don't you go? They don't let you? Ahhh... Gamiero coming... Ufff."

Please let the WWE wrestler leave.

I hope Inters enquiry about Oscar is followed up with an official bid. . . that nigga need to GTFOH.

Chelsea apparently seeking £30m.

Asked if Oscar has a future at Chelsea, Conte said: “All 29 players are Chelsea’s players at the moment. After this period I speak with my club.

“I agree after this tour to see all the players and then to take a decision. When we finish this period I will take the right decision for the player and for the club.

“There are players who will stay and others will go. This is football. It is important to be clear with all.

Baba Rahman signs on loan at Schalke. . . . better than Ake. . . yet we're now looking for a leftback.

nateevs:
I was going to touch on the Winger issue yesterday. Suddenly, at least based on pre-season so far, Willian and Pedro will take a back seat. It looks like that this formation is perfect for Cuadrado and Moses - two players I cannot stand because of their final-ball decision making.

Now, if Cuadrado and Moses are going to be our first choice wingers for the season, then we have a serious problem. We might as well cancel Musonda's loan and bring him back. Or it might just explain why the rumours surfaced of Chelsea's interest in Mahrez. We really lack scary quality in front.

None of our wingers have the profile of a 4-4-2 winger. They are all inverted wingers.

The ones that do - Moses and Cuadrado are not good enough, or haven't shown it so far.

The one who could profit from this is Kenedy on the left wing but I can't see him in preseason so far.

Conte should tread carefully with any radical shift to 4-4-2, lets not turn the wings into another crisis position to add to leftback, rightback, centreback, CM and striker. We have enough on our plate.

Marco Van Ginkel or Pasalic as AM in a return to a traditional 4-3-3 is an option I would explore. Van Ginkel has goals in his boots, forget recent attempts to shovel him into a pivot.

raumdeuter:
Mourinho came back in 2013, He could have pushed Lampard back into AM or was it Emenalo choosing the team also?

Mourinho gave reasons for dropping Lamps and it makes sense. You cant think of a year and sacrifice the clubs next 10yrs. WIth Lamps, One of Matic Fabregas or Mourinho favourite 10 Oscar would be dropped or their growth into the team stunted

With the Matic, Fab-Oscar midfield he won the league.

So if you think Lamps was pushed out of the club prematurely then Mourinho should be the one you hold responsible

Are you still struggling to add?

Who relegated Lampard to a pivot player when there was still strength in his legs? You want Jose to undo all the last 3 years direction the club has chosen and promote him back to AM at age 35? Even when he still needed him in the pivot which had been left understaffed to the point Lampard was his best pivot player with Luiz? You are right. Jose cannot change direction for 1 year only and undo the direction of the last few years. I would have done the same as Jose.

So what is your point and how does it relate to my initial statement that 2-3 years of Lampards attacking prowess was wasted by wrong decisions including those of the TD? (Mind you in one of those years, he was still our top scorer while playing in the pivot)


My friend gerrarahia!!!

raumdeuter:
Its just amazing the lenght you would go to absolve Mourinho of any perceived wrong doing even when he makes the speech admitting with his own mouth. This isnt the first time either especially when it comes to signing, Any signing you dont like or that flopped you blame Emenalo for it, Even if its under Mourinho you claim his hands are tied,

If it was AVB, Scolari etc that made those statements I am sure you would never excuse them, but when Mourinho makes statements with his own mouth you still disbelieve

Mourinho thought it was time for Lampard to go, and he released him, whether thats a good decision or bad is another discussion for another time. But he released him is the fact.

Releasing an old player doesnt mean you didnt rate him. Xavi was released by Barcelona, Schweinsteiger was released by Bayern, Wenger released Vieira, Ferguson released Beckham Stam etc One day very soon, Bayern would release Robben, Ribery and Lahm doesn't mean they didnt rate them

And the Terry-Conte saga showed a coach is not that powerless as you want us to believe, Terry was done by January in Chelsea, Conte requested they extend him for a year and his wish was done. If Mourinho wanted lampard to stay but Mourinho obviously didnt agree Lampard should stay

You are the one going into unnecessary length because of your hatred for Mourinho.

How does your statement even correlate with what I said?

Ibime:
This includes otondos like our Technical Director who decided to sign numerous AMs and ninnies to replace this guy, to the effect that Lampard was pushed into the pivot 2-3 years before his time as an AM was done.

Yet you are telling us about contract renewal in 2014.

2011 to 2014 is how many years? Nigga I can't add!

This is how you know Mourinho is biting your nyash. I am talking one thing, you talking something totally unrelated just so you can bring Mourinho into it!


All I came here to say (which doesn't concern you and has nothing to do with what you are talking about) is that Lampard is doing now what he loves doing and what he does best - which is getting in the box and winning games for his team. He is doing it in MLS and he did it at Man City when given the opportunity.

We spent 2011-2013 arguing nonsense about whether he fits in the pivot but he was the best AM at the club at the time. One Aba made TD decided to transfer him out of his position by flooding his position with ninnies and influencing tactical direction through player recruitment which bore no cognisanze of the fact that Lampard is our best AM. I, Ibime never bought into that bullcrap and always considered Lampard the best AM at the club. He continues to vindicate me. Dazall.